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| 00:38.21 | ketas | damn why nokia built battery into n9 |
| 00:38.33 | ketas | :( |
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| 01:06.22 | cckwes | heymaster: your problem has been solved? |
| 01:18.02 | ketas | uh damn it |
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| 01:45.42 | ketas | mtd4 - rootfs.jffs2 (a fucking copy of the above rootfs?) |
| 01:45.49 | ketas | i love documentation |
| 01:45.52 | ketas | :P |
| 01:45.59 | djszapi | Dante_J: greetings from my side |
| 01:46.19 | ketas | fcorrea: ping |
| 01:54.03 | fcorrea | ketas, pong |
| 01:55.33 | fcorrea | ketas, did you break your N9? My wife's seems to be dead so far. Waiting for a set of torx screw drivers to arrive so I can rip it open and apply high voltage directly on its heart |
| 01:56.02 | fcorrea | in other words, I'll take off the battery and try to load it so I can "jump start" the cell phone |
| 01:56.11 | fcorrea | I never though I'd do something like that |
| 01:56.14 | fcorrea | anyways |
| 01:56.59 | ketas | fcorrea: no |
| 01:57.19 | ketas | however i managed to get into two flashing modes |
| 01:57.22 | ketas | :) |
| 01:57.54 | fcorrea | ketas, wow...share the knowledge |
| 01:58.11 | fcorrea | but I assume you had a working usb |
| 01:58.21 | ketas | yes |
| 01:58.25 | ketas | you haven't? |
| 01:58.34 | ketas | well, you can turn it off, right? |
| 01:58.54 | ketas | or you can't keeps rebooting? |
| 01:59.09 | fcorrea | ketas, right, wont turn off |
| 01:59.11 | ketas | s/keeps/, keeps/ |
| 01:59.15 | ketas | umm |
| 01:59.31 | fcorrea | so yeah, keeps rebooting and I'm tired of that "nokia" thingie |
| 01:59.33 | ketas | s/ , /, / |
| 01:59.35 | ketas | :P |
| 01:59.38 | ketas | umm |
| 01:59.43 | ketas | can't turn off? |
| 01:59.49 | fcorrea | yep |
| 01:59.51 | ketas | why |
| 01:59.56 | ketas | :( |
| 02:00.11 | fcorrea | I mean, as long as it's not in the usb or wall adapter it's off |
| 02:00.26 | ketas | well |
| 02:00.28 | ketas | maybe |
| 02:00.36 | ketas | it's charged, right? |
| 02:00.36 | fcorrea | but sending positive thoughts to it didn't help |
| 02:00.44 | fcorrea | ketas, I don't believe it is |
| 02:00.48 | ketas | empty? |
| 02:00.53 | ketas | eh |
| 02:00.58 | fcorrea | yeah, I believe it is |
| 02:01.14 | fcorrea | reason why I'm taking the battery off for external charging |
| 02:01.28 | ketas | well, anyway, hold "-" down, then press and hold power until usb symbol appears |
| 02:01.33 | fcorrea | now, why the heck can't we just turn the cell phone from the adapter wall |
| 02:02.07 | fcorrea | ketas, but with the usb plugged in? |
| 02:02.13 | ketas | not sure if it can enter into that mode without usb connected |
| 02:02.15 | ketas | hm |
| 02:02.25 | ketas | should try |
| 02:02.47 | fcorrea | well, already tried that many many times but never worked. I suspect this is all micro usb falt in the first place |
| 02:03.03 | ketas | wtf rapid blinking |
| 02:03.23 | fcorrea | since all the charging is done through it and I can't have it to work, I assume it's faulty |
| 02:04.45 | ketas | the usb itself? |
| 02:06.01 | fcorrea | yeah. my wife told me she never managed to get her mac to mount the usb. |
| 02:06.09 | fcorrea | she only used the usb to charge |
| 02:06.36 | fcorrea | and now now that I can't simply can't get the usb to work so I can put it in charge mode, I suspect it's faulty |
| 02:06.39 | beford | I had this weird behavior the other day |
| 02:06.45 | beford | the battery got completly empty |
| 02:06.57 | fcorrea | so it doesn't matter if I charge the battery, I'll never get the usb storage mounted |
| 02:07.01 | beford | and after leaving it almost all day charging, it still wouldnt turn on, |
| 02:07.08 | fcorrea | beford, yeah it's very annoying |
| 02:07.18 | fcorrea | beford, what did you do? |
| 02:07.21 | beford | so I just plugged it into the computer and it got recognized as usb network |
| 02:07.31 | beford | after a couple of plugging unpluggint it turned on |
| 02:07.44 | fcorrea | wow |
| 02:07.46 | beford | and the battery was full |
| 02:08.08 | fcorrea | so you basically plugged and unplugged for a couple of minutes? |
| 02:08.31 | beford | unplugged it from the wall charger after being there all day and showing no signs of life |
| 02:08.39 | fcorrea | right |
| 02:08.47 | beford | then plugged it on the computer and even if it seemed to be dead, it got detected as usb modem |
| 02:08.51 | beford | er, usb network |
| 02:09.00 | fcorrea | so yeah, right now the phone is on the wall charger. I'll leave it there for 24h |
| 02:09.22 | fcorrea | well, luckily the same will happen to me |
| 02:10.34 | beford | yea, I can't remember exactly, I probably pushed the power button after/during it being connected to the PC, but it worked |
| 02:10.35 | fcorrea | right now all that I see is the blinking led and the nokia logo reboot after reboot |
| 02:10.59 | fcorrea | right, well, I'll try everything before I rip it open |
| 02:15.15 | ketas | R.I.P., n9 |
| 02:15.38 | ketas | i wonder how to hack mine working |
| 02:15.43 | ketas | it's locked |
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| 02:22.27 | fcorrea | ketas, so your n9 wont boot or what? |
| 02:22.56 | fcorrea | ketas, have you considered ripping it open and pulling the battery out for a couple of minutes? |
| 02:23.05 | ketas | well it's locked |
| 02:23.08 | ketas | boots fine |
| 02:23.12 | fcorrea | ah right |
| 02:23.23 | ketas | battery is full now, too |
| 02:23.27 | fcorrea | gotcha |
| 02:23.34 | fcorrea | so you are trying to unlock it |
| 02:23.34 | ketas | with constant usb hacking |
| 02:23.36 | ketas | :P |
| 02:23.37 | ketas | yes |
| 02:23.41 | fcorrea | right |
| 02:23.44 | ketas | not possible? |
| 02:23.57 | ketas | also, trying it with 0xffff :P |
| 02:24.06 | fcorrea | so, fully functioning phone but you can't hack it right? |
| 02:24.13 | ketas | maybe should try nokia flasher |
| 02:24.39 | ketas | well it was functioning until i managed to lock it |
| 02:25.19 | fcorrea | yeah, I guess refleshing the rootfs would be the best thing |
| 02:25.37 | fcorrea | it will basically reinstall the os and installed apps but will preserve data |
| 02:25.55 | fcorrea | so as long you don't care about the OS, I guess it's fixable |
| 02:25.58 | ketas | rootfs is ro? |
| 02:26.34 | ketas | hmm |
| 02:26.53 | ketas | i wish this thing can boot off usb |
| 02:27.24 | ketas | or, that i can access to it's filesystems |
| 02:27.34 | ketas | before it actually boots |
| 02:27.44 | fcorrea | ketas, well, I don't know, you basically pass the arguments to the flasher as in: flasher -f -F firmware.bin |
| 02:27.57 | fcorrea | it will only replace the os and the apps |
| 02:28.01 | fcorrea | saver your data |
| 02:28.06 | fcorrea | saves even |
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| 02:51.29 | ketas | :( |
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| 03:45.58 | djszapi | beford: heya |
| 03:55.37 | beford | hi |
| 03:56.11 | beford | my pi finally arrived :) using it as irssi client at the moment |
| 03:56.12 | beford | :P |
| 03:57.05 | ketas | your 3.14 |
| 03:59.42 | cckwes | beford: +1 |
| 04:02.27 | djszapi | beford: my also arrived 3000 kms away |
| 04:02.33 | djszapi | but I am more into the playbook. |
| 04:06.39 | beford | cool |
| 04:09.49 | ketas | hmm, damn |
| 04:10.40 | ketas | i have n900 somewhere too, maybe i should hack that too |
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| 08:26.15 | rzr | hji |
| 08:26.23 | rzr | djszapi, i am back in the h scene |
| 08:26.55 | rzr | i was busy w/ leaving current job now i have some time for harmattan |
| 08:27.28 | djszapi | ok, I do not. :) |
| 08:30.18 | rzr | so what's wrong w/ phonom ? |
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| 11:02.01 | djszapi | rzr: nothing |
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| 11:10.31 | Kleggas | Is there a way to (without opening browser) add an ssl certificate to the n9 broswer so it does not popup the question about trusting the cert? |
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| 11:13.19 | bjoernfan | Kleggas: Shouldn't you be able to put it in /etc/ssl or something? I have never installed my own certs though. |
| 11:14.44 | deram | I think, put pem file into home dir, and use settings -> Security -> Certificates -> Add new certificate |
| 11:19.33 | bjoernfan | Kleggas: Please share what you ended up doing later. :) |
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| 11:23.00 | Kleggas | bjoernfan: I will share, when I get back home from job and can test :) |
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| 11:25.04 | Kleggas | deram: my problem is, I got a server software I wrote, which I am connecting to using python + curl and displaying in QML ui. At one point, I need to call an external api (paypal) which I will be using browser for, and on accept/decline the user will be redirected to an url on my server again... I made my own cert, and thaqt is where it pops up. I am looking for a way not to bother user with manually adding the cert. its there, on their disc, used in c |
| 11:25.04 | Kleggas | url, but troubles me in browser :) |
| 11:25.58 | Kleggas | it is external (default) browser, not webview (didnät work, so using browser) |
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| 11:36.52 | rzr | Kleggas, add cacert keyring ? |
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| 11:58.20 | Kleggas | rzr: yes. how? :) |
| 11:58.33 | Kleggas | I am kinda new to the cert thingies... |
| 12:02.21 | rzr | there is a package of cacert cert, if your is generated by cacert , it will be silent |
| 12:02.25 | rzr | yours |
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| 12:18.50 | Kleggas | rzr: thanks, will look into that too after work |
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| 12:52.43 | fcorrea | oh boy, the hammer will work |
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| 12:53.35 | fcorrea | hardware should not fail, specially if you paid €700 for it |
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| 13:48.53 | ketas | fcorrea: 700 eur, eh? |
| 13:50.38 | fcorrea | ketas, yeah |
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| 13:51.24 | ketas | fcorrea: the price of n9? |
| 13:54.22 | fcorrea | ketas, well, yeah, that's what we pay down here. Well, used to pay |
| 13:54.34 | ketas | i got it used for 172... |
| 13:54.38 | ketas | ahahaha |
| 14:04.34 | fcorrea | ketas, we should talk them. There's a whole market for low priced hardware ;) |
| 14:04.59 | ketas | them? |
| 14:06.31 | ketas | hmm |
| 14:09.07 | Lava_Croft | 250eur, used but brand new |
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| 14:50.00 | fcorrea | ketas, typo, s/them/then/ |
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| 15:45.48 | aquarius | I'm getting the issue that numerous people have reported about Google calendars failing to sync over CalDav with an "internal error", and no amount of deleting and recreating the caldav account seems to solve it :( Is there more than what's on the forums known about the problem? |
| 15:47.23 | Shaan7 | aquarius: try adding your google account as a microsoft exchange, it syncs calendar, plus contacts :D |
| 15:48.12 | aquarius | Shaan7, as far as I can tell, using MfE only syncs the *main* calendar, not many of them. (I'm already using MfE for contact sync) |
| 15:48.33 | Shaan7 | ah yes, thats true |
| 15:48.54 | Shaan7 | I used to use caldav and worked fine though |
| 15:49.57 | aquarius | yeah, it worked fine for me too; a number of people seem to be reporting errors about there not being enough space, or getting "internal error", which is exactly what's happening to me, but no-one on the forums seems to have solved it |
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| 16:26.07 | djszapi | has anybody ever used this webex thingie on the N9? |
| 16:26.15 | djszapi | does it even work with the mobile internet connection on it? |
| 16:26.46 | djszapi | are there clients or it is only a grob way, or not even that? |
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| 18:06.55 | Venemo_N9 | meh |
| 18:07.21 | Venemo_N9 | I broke that flipout thingy on my N9 :( |
| 18:09.03 | djszapi | well, happens to many. |
| 18:11.46 | djszapi | I wish that was the case for me, and not broken screen :( |
| 18:13.58 | heymaster | so how to use Linux software on N9? |
| 18:15.00 | heymaster | is needed to add apt-get repositories ? |
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| 18:19.25 | djszapi | heymaster: what linux software exactly? |
| 18:19.48 | heymaster | djszapi: don't know :p any cool |
| 18:19.49 | heymaster | :) |
| 18:20.19 | djszapi | you can check our repository with rzr |
| 18:20.25 | heymaster | usespace programs |
| 18:20.40 | heymaster | ok |
| 18:21.03 | heymaster | djszapi: so harmattan has X11? |
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| 18:53.05 | rzr | heymaster, http://rzr.online.fr/q/harmattan |
| 18:53.34 | heymaster | rzr: thanks. i know this page |
| 18:53.51 | rzr | u welcome |
| 18:54.40 | rashm2k | Can I use aegis to store a user token securely? |
| 18:55.29 | ketas | fooo... why doesn't this thing support recovery boot natively :( |
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| 19:20.06 | jonni | rashm2k: 'semi' securely atleast :) |
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| 19:31.35 | rashm2k | semii |
| 19:31.46 | rashm2k | semi securely will do |
| 20:01.56 | ketas | looks at Pali |
| 20:02.22 | djszapi | rashm2k: yes, you can. |
| 20:02.31 | djszapi | heymaster: yes, Harm has X11. |
| 20:03.59 | djszapi | ketas: why on the earth would an average user recovery boot? |
| 20:04.01 | djszapi | need* |
| 20:04.46 | djszapi | moreover it has sorta done for ages. |
| 20:05.29 | heymaster | djszapi: does N9 kernel drivers are opensourced ? |
| 20:05.42 | djszapi | heymaster: yes, Nokia does not violate GPL. |
| 20:06.07 | heymaster | djszapi: cool. so we can have normal Android port |
| 20:06.17 | ketas | all drivers are opensource? |
| 20:06.30 | djszapi | heymaster: I am not interested in android :p |
| 20:06.59 | djszapi | but see the nitroid project for details. |
| 20:07.03 | heymaster | djszapi: N9 has some drivers as userspace ? |
| 20:07.26 | heymaster | because i think android uses many drivers in userspace, no ? |
| 20:07.29 | ketas | djszapi: well, aren't average users ones who commonly fuck things up? |
| 20:07.39 | djszapi | heymaster: yes there are userspace drivers as well for sure. |
| 20:07.46 | djszapi | ketas: no. |
| 20:08.41 | djszapi | if an ordinary user can "fuck up" the kernel, that is a wrong platform already. |
| 20:08.45 | heymaster | i want to learn some kernel dev, but it's for too hard |
| 20:08.46 | djszapi | that point is exactly the opposite. |
| 20:09.23 | ketas | djszapi: just userland is enough |
| 20:10.15 | heymaster | maybe use raspberry pi to learn some dev |
| 20:10.17 | djszapi | it does not really matter if it is kernel or userspace really. |
| 20:10.24 | djszapi | I wanted to write "platform" actually. |
| 20:10.37 | djszapi | heymaster: use desktop |
| 20:10.53 | heymaster | why desktop? |
| 20:10.59 | heymaster | :) |
| 20:11.13 | djszapi | because that is the vanilla linux kernel way |
| 20:11.37 | djszapi | currently no platform with open government maintenance. |
| 20:11.44 | djszapi | maintainance* |
| 20:12.04 | heymaster | djszapi: ahh, ok |
| 20:12.49 | heymaster | https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-CvQ-ShdJHCA/UGi9ZuR3eDI/AAAAAAAAAio/5aGapKRzhQ4/s575/422703_4401766238013_125222959_n.jpg << i did isb nes controller. i think in feature to create spme isb device and learn to write drivers just hobby |
| 20:12.58 | heymaster | usb* |
| 20:13.40 | ketas | djszapi: i take it as there is no way to get access to generic n9 that has security lock on, with ALL device data staying intact? |
| 20:13.43 | heymaster | usb is avr controller with software usb implementation |
| 20:17.20 | heymaster | ketas: what's your name? |
| 20:17.54 | heymaster | because my name is kestas :) |
| 20:17.59 | ketas | what |
| 20:18.11 | ketas | why should your name be kestas |
| 20:18.54 | heymaster | just my name similar to your nickname :) |
| 20:19.22 | ketas | from latvia? |
| 20:19.24 | ketas | :P |
| 20:19.50 | ketas | or what were other *s-names countries |
| 20:20.28 | heymaster | i'm from lithuania |
| 20:20.37 | heymaster | your from latvia? |
| 20:21.02 | ketas | no |
| 20:21.05 | ketas | estonia |
| 20:21.10 | heymaster | cool |
| 20:21.37 | ketas | no, i'm not ketas actually |
| 20:21.48 | heymaster | :) |
| 20:21.50 | heymaster | yes |
| 20:32.05 | piggz | heymaster: you wanna get low level on the rpi? http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/freshers/raspberrypi/tutorials/os/ |
| 20:32.55 | heymaster | piggz: yes, it's interesting tutorials |
| 20:33.12 | heymaster | i was reading few chapters |
| 20:33.36 | piggz | im yet to do any programming on my rpi :/ |
| 20:34.09 | heymaster | i'm too :) |
| 20:35.17 | heymaster | i want to learn work with usb, but it's too hard for me |
| 20:35.35 | heymaster | author of tutorials wrote usb code |
| 20:36.21 | heymaster | so it's very great tutorial |
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| 21:28.55 | djszapi | anybody using archlinux here? |
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| 21:57.15 | rashm2k | i use linux.. |
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| 22:31.11 | fcorrea | man, whoever invented the torx t3 and t4 screws must die |
| 22:46.43 | ketas | fcorrea: took it apart? |
| 22:47.42 | ketas | fcorrea: so it didn't stay in one of flashing modes long enough to execute something via flasher? |
| 22:48.22 | ketas | fcorrea: torx seems like least of your problem... |
| 22:48.33 | ketas | the whole thing is closed |
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