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10:00.19mlankhorsthow can I debug booting on n9? mine just gets in a continuous reboot cycle atm, last time i fixed it by wiping everything including user partition, but I'd rather find out what is going on now instead
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18:31.36DocScrutinizer05pffff
18:31.45DocScrutinizer05tizen
18:32.25DocScrutinizer05and as usual somebody trolling about why a proper linux needs certain standard building blocks
18:38.09dm8tbrtroll him by answering: android is linux
18:41.17DocScrutinizer05I should troll back by suggesting he keeps his focus on porting Aegis to tizen
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19:07.29jonnimlankhorst: options, 1. going to openmode, booting to shell and looging for dmesg-log, 2. find rx/tx-pins, make yourself console cable and look dmesg log, and 3. the easiest way, full reflash again :)
19:08.58jonni4. disable reboot watchdogs, and hope that it stops rebooting, and fix it.
19:09.53jonniactually 4. option should be the 1st thing to try.
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19:34.13mlankhorst4 didn't work sadly, 3 works but there should be an easier way
19:35.09mlankhorst1 couldn't find a nice open mode kernel that ran correctly, 2 is tempting though :)
19:39.06mlankhorstis it 5v serial or 3.3v?
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20:25.33befordjonni: hey, I wanted to know if the N950 allow downgrades
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22:07.21DocScrutinizer05mlankhorst: jonni: where would we look for UART testpoints? The receipe for N900 to look under battery obviously doesn't apply well to N9
22:23.34DocScrutinizer05jonni: mlankhorst: "Production test" FBUS_RX, FBUS_TX, J2083, J2084, J2085(GND)
22:23.45DocScrutinizer05just one question: *where*
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22:34.40DocScrutinizer05seems there's a special contraption to plug in instead of / on top of the SIM. There are two rows of TP there
22:35.30DocScrutinizer05the two TestPoints most to the center or towards the USB are J2083 and J2084
22:36.44DocScrutinizer05both are to SoC-GPIO which would mean they are 1.8V. They are ESD-protected (tranzorb), and have a 1kR series both
22:38.18DocScrutinizer05J2083 (UART3_RX) is the 'inner' one, J2084 (UART_TX) the 'outer' one
22:39.12DocScrutinizer05mlankhorst: HTH
22:39.36DocScrutinizer05ooh, almost forgot: ^^^applies to N9
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23:29.15jonniDocScrutinizer05: you can see them in the schematics, I give you hint: where simcard is located ;)
23:31.33jonnibeford: officially no, but there is no such thing as secure software.
23:33.02jonni(and you can also freely downgrade if you have valid rdc in the cal)

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