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04:55.10tehdelyq: is it possible to patch/replace NOLO?
04:55.14tehdelyhas anyone tried?
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05:47.54djszapiZogG_laptop: you mean the community got inactive?
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06:37.16ZogG_laptopdjszapi: wouldn't say that yet
06:38.44djszapiZogG_laptop: then try to be clear ^^
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06:43.15ZogG_laptopdjszapi: some people still working
06:43.30ZogG_laptopbut it's mostly solo
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06:43.50ZogG_laptopand i think as summer ends people are more busy
06:44.15ZogG_laptopbut community less active for a while even when irc was active :(
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07:01.56djszapiZogG_laptop: go to mer then :D
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07:12.11djszapiZogG_laptop: or #qt-qnx
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13:26.37Andenso i tried modifying the quick launchers on my N9. it didnt like that so i restored it to how it was but the third icon is still gone, even after reboot. wtf?
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17:42.13heymasterIs it possible to upload app on N9 using USB ?
17:42.19heymasterwith QtCreator
17:42.33heymasterMaybe it will be faster ?
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17:51.50ajalkaneheymaster: yes it's possible
17:52.13ajalkaneI doubt it's faster than WLAN. But it's possible.
17:52.23heymasterok
17:52.38heymasterbut maybe speed up compiling ?
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17:55.13heymasterand one thing. How to get crash logs ?
17:55.22heymasterbecause my app crashing
17:55.55heymastercrashing more than iPhone version :P :D
17:56.17heymasterbut haven't got device so it's was hard to test
17:57.36heymasterSegmentation fault Finished running remote process. Exit code was 139.
17:58.00heymasterand i can't get any debug information ?
17:58.20heymasteri'm just love objc crash logs :P
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18:06.07heymasteri stated debugger, but it's very slow, because loading all libs
18:06.24heymasterany speedup solution ?
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18:09.52ajalkaneYou can speedup compilation by using several threads
18:09.57ajalkanelike make -j 2
18:10.43ajalkaneWell, let me correct myself, I'm talking about using those multi-core processes
18:10.47ajalkane* processors
18:11.56ajalkaneI should just shut up for now
18:12.11heymasterok. thanks
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18:44.52heymasteranybody knows why app don't crash in debugger, but crashes just running without debugger ?
18:45.28heymaster:D
18:45.34heymasterbut it's for real
18:48.24rashm2kthere can be only on reason - due to multithreading
18:48.40heymasterrashm2k: you right
18:48.46heymasteri need to use background threads
18:48.47heymaster?
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18:49.49heymasteri'm doing some background stuff but using main thread
18:50.08rashm2kIt should be a seperate thread then
18:50.15heymasterrashm2k: yes
18:50.17heymasterthank you!
18:50.18rashm2kuse signals/slots to acheive this
18:50.31heymasterrashm2k: ok will try
18:50.47rashm2kI'm pretty new to Qt myself.
18:51.00rashm2kbut signals slots probably are the way to go
18:51.39heymasterrashm2k: i think i need to use qthread, because i'm using library which makes many things
18:51.54heymastersignals/slots for qt classes
18:52.00heymasteri think
18:52.01heymasteror not ?
18:52.15rashm2kYou don't want to lock the gui
18:52.37heymasteryes
18:53.02rashm2kI tend to have onStart, onError, onwarning, onSuccess, onCompleted signals
18:53.11heymasterBut i'm using C library to do things in main thread
18:53.45rashm2kSo between any two states I show some loading animation
18:53.55heymasteri'm using some C++ code :/
18:54.07heymasterI looked those signals in QML
18:54.09heymaster:)
18:54.09rashm2kI'm doing something similar
18:54.23rashm2kmy app is Qt, C, C++, QML
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18:54.45heymastermaybe i can do background threading with QML ?
18:55.01rashm2kWhen a QML request something - it fires a signal and the Qt Class kicks off
18:55.11heymasterahh. ok
18:55.13rashm2kMore hassle than its worth
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18:55.40heymasteri'm mainly calling C++ code from QML
18:55.45heymasterQML for my app just wrapper
18:55.45rashm2kUnless you are really good with QML - which I am not
18:55.58rashm2kwhat are you building?
18:56.11heymasteri'm was developing app for contest
18:56.25heymasterServerMonitor named
18:56.26rashm2kcontent?
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18:56.30heymasteryes
18:56.42heymasterbut haven't got device to test it
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18:56.50rashm2kwhat do you mean 'content'?
18:56.57heymasterahh
18:57.08heymastercontest*
18:57.10heymastersummer
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18:57.24rashm2kits finished though?
18:57.35heymasteri'm not fixing bugs
18:57.38heymasternow*
18:57.48rashm2kk
18:58.07rashm2kQEMU is as close to the real device as you will get
18:58.12heymasteri have mac which is very slow so it's was hard to develop app just with qemu
18:58.37heymasteri click something in qemu and i need to wait for 5 seconds
18:58.44heymaster:D
18:59.01heymasterDon't why qemu so slow. even android much faster
18:59.10heymasterknow*
18:59.20rashm2kH/W acceleration is the reason
18:59.27heymasteryes
18:59.43heymasteri have very cheap video hardware
18:59.52heymasteryou know apple :D
18:59.56heymasterselling old hardware
19:00.09rashm2kno - meant H/W acceleration is not being used
19:00.24rashm2keven the intel graphics is plenty horsepower
19:00.45heymasteri tried to use it, but qemu haven't work with H/W enabled
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19:00.50heymasteron os x and linux
19:01.55heymasterwith Auto-Detect option worked but very slow
19:02.56heymasterrashm2k: what you debeloping
19:03.03heymasterdeveloping*
19:03.05heymaster?
19:03.05rashm2kmeebay
19:03.39rashm2khttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=86740
19:03.43heymastergoogle for "meebay" is speechless :/
19:04.42heymasterhave you wined anything ? participated in contest
19:04.44heymaster?
19:04.53rashm2knope
19:04.58rashm2kwell gutted
19:05.01heymastersad :/
19:05.07rashm2kreally really really wanted an N950
19:05.49heymasteri can say was winner because of miracle :/
19:05.55heymastersad because of you
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19:06.15heymasteri only got 7th entry
19:06.20rashm2kI did look at other entries
19:06.30rashm2ksome were bloody amazing
19:06.49rashm2kbut tbh the winning apps were techie apps
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19:07.53heymasteras i can say it's miracle
19:08.16rashm2kyou have an n950 then?
19:08.24heymasteryes
19:08.35heymasterbut haven't recieved
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19:09.19heymasteri was winner because people wined in other categories
19:09.31heymasteri only got 7th entry
19:10.14heymasteri had to got N9, but someone wanted to swap
19:10.56heymasterbecause first three entries grabbed n950
19:11.08heymastertwo*
19:12.18heymasterand i bought n9 for 200 euros
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19:15.29gn00bis it possible to use Pinger with the N9?
19:17.20heymasterrashm2k: it's luck thing.. don't be sad :)
19:17.51heymasteri tried two times to win n9, but failed
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19:19.10heymasterhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wFCd7WmWSA << i tried to win n9 on local nokia facebook, but failed
19:20.52heymasteri think other people cheated with changing adobe flash memory
19:21.08heymasterbut it's cracking, not hacking
19:23.11heymasteras you can see in video it's impossible to get 60 points as other people got
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19:28.04rashm2kYou can buy N9 anyway - but not N950 which is why I wanted N950
19:28.19rashm2knot sure there is going to be any comps for N950 any more
19:28.40heymaster:/
19:29.35heymasterit's depends on Nokia future i think
19:29.56heymastervery bad days to Nokia..
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19:31.33heymasterwith MeeGo Nokia could be like NeXT
19:32.18heymasterbut they chosen Microsoft and not to be software maker..
19:32.32leinirheymaster: what, that they kicked out the useful stuff, who create another company, and then get hired back to save the company when their strategy fails? ;)
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19:33.41heymaster<PROTECTED>
19:33.47heymastertoo
19:34.10heymasterieatlint: like Apple in 9ų.. sorry
19:34.15heymaster97
19:34.33heymasterJolla like NeXT
19:34.35heymaster:)
19:34.41leinirthat's what i meant, yes :)
19:35.20heymasteri wanted to say MeeGo for Nokia
19:35.21heymaster:)
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