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| 05:16.32 | ZogG_laptop | :) |
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| 12:29.39 | M4rtinK | working eSpeak packages for Harmattan: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1290282&postcount=19 |
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| 13:09.46 | pa | installed that a couple of days ago :) |
| 13:09.55 | pa | is espeak updated now? |
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| 13:10.45 | pa | M4rtinK, espeak was available already through meeCatalog |
| 13:15.49 | M4rtinK | pa: does meeCatalog list rzr's repo ? |
| 13:16.13 | M4rtinK | or was it from somewhere else ? |
| 13:17.12 | M4rtinK | anyway, I haven't seen anyone announcing eSpeak availability & no applications using it (on Harmattan) so that's why I'm writing about it :) |
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| 13:30.06 | pa | M4rtinK, im not sure exactly what repos it adss |
| 13:30.08 | pa | adds |
| 13:30.18 | pa | But it's there and it works :) |
| 13:30.50 | pa | (it speaks kind of funny, tho) |
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| 13:35.58 | M4rtinK | pa: your very own Stephen Hawking :) |
| 13:36.45 | M4rtinK | pa: reportedly, using the mbrola voices should help quite a bit: http://espeak.sourceforge.net/mbrola.html |
| 13:37.37 | M4rtinK | they are unfortunately distributed under some nonfree licence, so properly packaging them & using them by default is (?) IMHO not possible |
| 13:37.49 | pa | i see |
| 13:37.58 | M4rtinK | there are some non-free Debian packages |
| 13:38.00 | pa | in the packages i have i think there are some voices |
| 13:38.03 | pa | not all tho |
| 13:38.12 | M4rtinK | yeah |
| 13:38.20 | M4rtinK | there are some built in ones |
| 13:38.41 | pa | but are you planning to package mbrola voices? :) |
| 13:38.45 | M4rtinK | + some extra packages that has russian and other experimental/big packages |
| 13:39.33 | M4rtinK | probably yes, but won't mind if somebody else does it as I'm quite overloaded already :) |
| 13:40.24 | M4rtinK | BTW, these are the Debian packages: http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=mbrola |
| 13:40.37 | M4rtinK | I've never done non-free packages before |
| 13:40.50 | pa | right |
| 13:40.51 | M4rtinK | so I have no idea how they fit in |
| 13:41.13 | M4rtinK | IIRC on Fremantle you can only upload them with DPUT |
| 13:41.26 | M4rtinK | but no idea on Harmattan |
| 13:41.37 | M4rtinK | with OBS & co |
| 13:41.41 | pa | i've never packaged anything myself (well ok besides my apps) |
| 13:41.48 | pa | so im not really sure either |
| 13:42.17 | M4rtinK | well, I can still make a script and tell my users to run it :) |
| 13:42.27 | M4rtinK | but proper packages would be nicer :) |
| 13:43.25 | M4rtinK | the debian packages should be also reasonably compatible - just not sure about the non-free status |
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| 13:44.11 | M4rtinK | anyone else interested in helping with this ? :) |
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| 17:50.43 | ajalkane | This channel's quieter than I remembered :P |
| 17:51.20 | rZr | let see next door in #maemo |
| 17:51.58 | ajalkane | so harmattan is now accepted as maemo without never-ending flamewars? |
| 17:53.49 | SpeedEvil | it's just quieter, I think |
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| 17:54.55 | ajalkane | ah... well, perhaps that's a good sign. Not much unsolved problems left :) |
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| 17:57.46 | SpeedEvil | also, people hoping forhr things. |
| 17:57.55 | SpeedEvil | see #jollamobile |
| 17:58.16 | SpeedEvil | as Nokia doing more maemo seems unlikely |
| 17:58.24 | ajalkane | yeah well, that's good for future's sake that #mer, #nemomobile etc. are active |
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| 18:52.07 | ZogG_laptop | haha 500+mA for idle avr use :P |
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| 18:52.10 | ZogG_laptop | haha 500+mA for idle avr use :P |
| 18:52.42 | bluefox | that's pretty impressive |
| 18:59.09 | ZogG_laptop | bluefox: all others were 700+ |
| 19:00.03 | bluefox | how are managing that? unless you're not talking about an N9/N950? |
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| 19:02.34 | ZogG_laptop | it's just got stuck |
| 19:02.41 | ZogG_laptop | reboot didnt really help |
| 19:02.58 | ZogG_laptop | i think it |
| 19:03.15 | ZogG_laptop | i think it's related to google sync |
| 19:03.20 | ZogG_laptop | and 3g was stuck |
| 19:03.29 | ZogG_laptop | like it was active trying to do it |
| 19:03.52 | bluefox | ah, that's inconvenient to say the least then |
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| 19:06.23 | ZogG_laptop | bluefox: i had no time to debug, had enuf things to debug at work |
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| 19:31.38 | rZr | : http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?p=41828#post41828 # Have you noticed http://wiki.meego.com offline ? Can it be rescued ? #MeeGo #TiZen |
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| 21:31.48 | M4rtinK | rZr: you there ? :) |
| 21:32.07 | rZr | <= just there |
| 21:32.17 | rZr | whazup? |
| 21:32.34 | M4rtinK | so what about the GTK packages ? |
| 21:33.00 | rZr | well i havent looked for long |
| 21:33.54 | M4rtinK | so the only remaining issue is that error you have on your wiki ? |
| 21:34.53 | rZr | i think yes |
| 21:35.05 | rZr | should be trivial to fix if your version is ok |
| 21:35.18 | M4rtinK | well, which one ? |
| 21:35.23 | M4rtinK | I have like 5 :D |
| 21:35.53 | rZr | the m5 one ? |
| 21:38.17 | M4rtinK | this one is probably the cleanest: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/files?package=libgtk&project=home%3AMartinK%3Aharmattan |
| 21:38.50 | M4rtinK | I think it comes from Aapos repo and seems to build fine in your repo |
| 21:39.45 | rZr | can you rename the package to gtk-2.0 ? |
| 21:39.56 | rZr | can you rename the package to gtk+2.0 ? |
| 21:41.40 | rZr | thats the one i was based on IICR |
| 21:41.45 | rZr | let's diff it |
| 21:41.45 | M4rtinK | ok |
| 21:41.49 | M4rtinK | ok |
| 21:41.53 | M4rtinK | so IIRC: |
| 21:42.05 | M4rtinK | 1) delete your gtk+2.0 in my repo |
| 21:42.23 | M4rtinK | 2) rename libgtk -> gtk+2.0 |
| 21:42.40 | M4rtinK | 3) submit a request to you repo |
| 21:42.41 | M4rtinK | ? |
| 21:42.57 | rZr | that one could work yes |
| 21:43.06 | rZr | i can do this also |
| 21:43.26 | M4rtinK | np, I'll do it :) |
| 21:43.33 | rZr | ok |
| 21:43.33 | M4rtinK | BTW, just got GTK running on Nemo :D |
| 21:43.52 | rZr | then let's head to gtk3 :) |
| 21:44.01 | M4rtinK | hh |
| 21:44.08 | M4rtinK | dependency hell awaits :) |
| 21:44.34 | M4rtinK | but yeah |
| 21:44.41 | M4rtinK | all that GI stuff could be nice |
| 21:45.13 | M4rtinK | it quite nicely sidesteps the current Qt 4/5 issue with language bindings |
| 21:45.26 | M4rtinK | eq no Python bindings for Qt 5 so far :) |
| 21:50.44 | rZr | i thought i could repack that gtk from debian upstream |
| 21:50.47 | rZr | but who cares now |
| 21:51.35 | M4rtinK | rZr: I think there are some Maemo specific patches/hacks |
| 21:51.44 | M4rtinK | but yeah, I tried that first too |
| 21:52.02 | M4rtinK | but then settled on GTK from Fremantle as it just worked :) |
| 21:52.11 | M4rtinK | rZr: BTW, request submitted |
| 21:52.14 | rZr | lets keep that for later ;) |
| 21:52.53 | M4rtinK | I haven't renamed the package btw, just copypaced it to gtk+2.0 after deleting the gtk+2.0 you send me |
| 21:52.55 | rZr | building about |
| 21:53.20 | rZr | well that was easier than i thought |
| 21:53.54 | rZr | was espeak enough too ? |
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| 21:54.42 | M4rtinK | rZr: I've tried it and it works fine :) |
| 21:55.10 | M4rtinK | already posted about it to your repo thread on TMO |
| 21:57.06 | rZr | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1256338#post1256338 |
| 21:57.07 | rZr | tjx |
| 21:57.11 | rZr | -j+h |
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| 22:01.33 | M4rtinK | a dedicated thread about it might be also in order |
| 22:01.53 | Venemo | meh |
| 22:01.53 | M4rtinK | as it is used by quite a few applications on Fremantle |
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| 22:06.52 | M4rtinK | BTW, modRana GTK running on Nemo: http://imgur.com/a/5bjkg :) |
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| 22:41.59 | rZr | is imgr a better alt to flick in matter of freedom ? |
| 22:42.17 | rZr | can you backup your data easly ? |
| 22:46.19 | M4rtinK | rZr: I'm using only for data that is not sensitive & disposable |
| 22:47.01 | rZr | this is part of your life anyway :) |
| 22:47.20 | M4rtinK | as its generally quicker to dump some pictures in a imgur gallery through the browser than scping it to my servers :) |
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| 22:47.57 | M4rtinK | well, I'll make a proper gallery hosted on modrana.org later & then link the images to the modRana thread on TMO :) |
| 22:49.16 | rZr | http://rzr.online.fr/docs/gallery/lazygal/ ... |
| 22:49.21 | rZr | diy |
| 22:49.25 | rZr | future proof |
| 22:49.37 | rZr | just uploaded that one |
| 22:49.38 | rZr | http://rzr.online.fr/docs/gallery/lazygal/RzR-2012-Fall-n950.html |
| 22:51.02 | M4rtinK | I'm already using it & like it quite a lot :) |
| 22:51.28 | M4rtinK | only significant thing missing - picture comments/descriptions |
| 22:52.42 | M4rtinK | on a related note, modrana.org is down due to RAID crash :) |
| 22:53.58 | M4rtinK | back to lazygal - its very easy to combine with (py)inotify to get a live gallery that can be updated just by uploding files with scp :) |
| 22:55.42 | rZr | did you lost data on your RAID crash ? |
| 22:56.04 | M4rtinK | hope not :) |
| 22:56.56 | M4rtinK | its hosted on the faculty & according to a mail I've just read they are currently restoring it from backups |
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