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00:10.59heymasterLooks like Qt creator compiles everything everytime ?
00:11.12heymasterwhy it's so slow
00:11.27heymasterhow to compile only changes
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04:50.27Lava_CroftI like my N9 taking nearly a minute to update the music library with two whole songs
04:50.33Lava_Crofttotalling maybe 5 minutes of music
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10:31.41heymasterHello. After i switch my app to background and again. One my data structure is somehow deallocated. Don't know that to do :/ How it's possible ?
10:33.59heymasterI have Qlist <Host*> and i'm getting qlist's count, but after i'm trying to access QString which is in Host* i get segfault
10:34.29heymaster_hostname = QString(hostname) ;
10:34.36heymasterand hostname is passed from QML
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12:07.05padidnt know about "Topics"
12:07.08paseems cool
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13:52.49pahow to turn off delivery report?
13:52.54pasms delivery report
13:54.03pai disabled it from application->messages
13:54.15pabut apparently i still get billed for one each sms i send
13:54.35paand my telco said they dont have anything active on their side, so it must be on mine
13:57.43thedead1440pa: how can you be billed for delivery reports on SMS? I always thought the delivery report is never included as a bill cost...
13:58.01paapparently they cost..
13:59.13lpappwell, you pay at the post too to get any kind of information for tracking.
13:59.25lpappso it is a service after all.
13:59.47lpappbut it should be included 99.9999% for any ISP in the sms cost.
14:00.11payep, and it's not active on the telco side, and it's not active on my phone, so i dont get why mmy N9 keeps sending these receipts out
14:02.27lpappalso, why did I join this channel :D
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14:26.06pahow do i swipe away the swype keyboard?
14:26.09pait seems not to work
14:26.16pawith the others it work swiping them down
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14:56.12heymasterthedead1440: sms delivery reports are billed at least for my operator
15:01.01thedead1440heymaster: Didn't know that o.O; always thought delivery reports were included in the per sms cost
15:04.11heymasterthedead1440: http://cl.ly/image/220A110L0K3l (picture with prices of my operator)
15:05.30heymasterit's in Lithuania, but operator is TeliaSonera.. "TeliaSonera AB is the dominant telephone company and mobile network operator in Sweden and Finland"
15:05.34thedead1440thanks for that; didn't know such  thing existed...Good to learn something new :D
15:05.40heymaster:)
15:05.48heymastergood :)
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15:18.33paheymaster, did u manage to disable the sms receipts on your n9/50?
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15:40.54heymasterpa: i don't get them :/
15:42.07heymasterpa: found. Settings->Applications->Messages :)
15:42.38heymaster"Recieve delivery reports"
15:42.50heymasterahh
15:42.57heymasteryou did it
15:44.09heymasterpa: you can do some googling, maybe you can send delivery reports by sending sms to your operator
15:44.18heymasterdisable*
15:44.22pai actually called my operator
15:44.29pathey said everything is disabled on their side
15:44.43heymastertry to turn off phone :)
15:44.57paand apparently i am paying  these "sms kvittering"  per each message I send
15:45.03panot per message i receive
15:45.32paso i dont understand what they are
15:45.43heymaster:/
15:45.44pawhy would i be billed for a receipt of a message i sent?
15:47.14heymasterpa: don't understand you :)
15:48.02paso
15:48.12pai would send a sms to you?
15:48.17pai would be billed for the receipt
15:48.36payou send to me? i dont pay the recepit
15:48.36heymasterheh :)
15:48.43pathats what is happening
15:48.52heymasterroaming enabled ?
15:48.53heymaster:)
15:49.08payes but not roaming now
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15:58.22pai think i got it
15:58.29pait's "receive delivery report"
15:58.35paand i get billed for that!!!
15:58.36pajeez
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16:01.54lpappheymaster: the question is more like if 50 cents are really worth sparing for the matter that you get a notification.
16:02.07lpappit is about 10%
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16:02.48lpappin my opinion, the operator should disable that service in the first place.
16:02.56lpappajalkane: sup hello kitty man
16:05.49ajalkanehow are you djs**pi. Cleverly incognito I see.
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16:07.30heymasterlpapp: it's 5 cents :)
16:08.00lpappheymaster: yes
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16:46.20lpappanyone with computer graphics knowledge over here?
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21:46.38heymasteris good idea to use -j 4 in qtcreato on core2duo machine ? :)
21:47.05faenilyes, even more :)
21:47.30heymasterbut computer has only two cores :)
21:48.01heymasterbut because of HT, so i can safely to use 4 cores
21:48.02faenilbut more threads can start other IOs in the meanwhile
21:49.34heymasterbut my computer can do just two task in time (contex switching)
21:50.40faenilbut the hdd in the meanwhile may be working on other things
21:50.48faenilwhile the cpu working on other things
21:51.00faenilwith more threads you can start more IOs
21:51.03faenilmlong, ping
21:51.44heymasterfaenil: ok. thanks
21:51.49faenilnp
21:51.56faenilI discussed about that with mlong weeks ago
21:52.12faeniland he said he once got the least building time with -j24
21:52.15faenilor something like that :)
21:52.47heymasterfaenil: "you can start more IOs" ?
21:53.20heymasterIO for me is slow things like HDD
21:53.26faenilheymaster, let me look for the thread
21:53.26faenilyes
21:54.14faenilgoogle, I love you
21:54.22heymaster:)
21:54.51faenilhttps://twitter.com/Venemo/status/239120568912330753
21:56.03faenilas you can see, that came as a surprise to me too :D
21:57.21heymaster:)
21:58.43heymasterhis argument more threads can do I/O
21:59.07heymasterhmm
21:59.18faenilyes
21:59.30heymasterreally don't know :)
22:00.28heymasterhard to argue with people you often compile Qt libraries, so maybe they know :)
22:00.35heymasterwho*
22:01.15pa-j.. gcc argument?
22:01.33heymasteryes
22:01.40pai see
22:06.03heymasterjust two my cents: CPU don't do I/O. it's done DMA chip. If it's i/o request so process is blocked and waiting. next process starting to work
22:06.36faenilheymaster, that's what I thought too :/
22:06.46faenilbut we must be missing something...
22:07.12heymasterfaenil: maybe he using SSD :)
22:07.17faenil:)
22:07.52heymasterbut still..
22:08.43heymastermore threads more problems to hdd :)
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