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| 12:07.32 | MohammadAG | Does anyone here know about WiFi direct? |
| 12:07.53 | MohammadAG | I'm trying to make Samsung's S Beam work with the N9 |
| 12:08.34 | MohammadAG | The S3 sends a mac address along with the path to the file in JSON format over nfc |
| 12:08.42 | Appiah | what' WiFi direct? |
| 12:08.59 | MohammadAG | The N9 can receive the JSON info but I can't figure out how to connect |
| 12:09.05 | Appiah | is that the same as NFC? |
| 12:09.13 | MohammadAG | Obviously not |
| 12:09.34 | MohammadAG | S Beam uses NFC to send metadata, then the file transfer is handled over wifi direct |
| 12:09.47 | MohammadAG | Its like ad-hoc but uses some sort of Soft AP |
| 12:09.57 | MohammadAG | Its a standard by wifi alliance |
| 12:10.22 | Appiah | we tried to transfer some files with NFC on my N9 with a Samsung something and couldnt get it to work |
| 12:21.05 | MohammadAG | Obviosly yes, since neither are using the same method to transfer stuff |
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| 12:39.37 | pa | MohammadAG, by the way, do you know whether N9 can act as AP? |
| 12:39.45 | pa | i mean, it can when it does hotspotting |
| 12:40.06 | pa | but in principle could it be possible to make it simply act as AP for just connecting to it? |
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| 12:50.58 | MohammadAG | pa, if Joikuspot can do it, then why not |
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| 12:51.17 | MohammadAG | I'm not really into networking, but it could be a simple hack |
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| 13:02.47 | pa | the problem with joikuspot is that it turns on the mobile internet by default |
| 13:02.58 | pa | while this should be left as an option |
| 13:13.52 | MohammadAG | JoikuSpot is commercial software, this is what the consumer expects |
| 13:16.32 | pa | well sometimes it practical to have it also just as AP if you want to connect to N9 from another device for doing wifi file transfering |
| 13:16.40 | pa | ok |
| 13:16.44 | pa | you could do it ad hoc |
| 13:17.13 | MohammadAG | yeah, I figure, but JoikuSpot doesn't care :) |
| 13:17.23 | MohammadAG | I'm not sure how you'd open up an ad-hoc network |
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| 13:43.48 | ladoga | does it need some trickery? |
| 13:44.51 | ladoga | i tried adhoc mode on n9 and it's visible as access point |
| 13:45.40 | ladoga | don't know much about networking though |
| 13:47.17 | ladoga | # iwconfig wlan0 mode ad-hoc |
| 13:47.43 | ladoga | # iwconfig wlan0 essid "whatever" |
| 13:48.15 | ladoga | # ifconfig wlan0 10.0.0.1 up |
| 13:48.55 | ladoga | all under develsh |
| 13:49.12 | ladoga | atleast it springs up ad-hoc AP |
| 13:50.47 | ladoga | I'm probably missing something:) |
| 13:53.55 | pa | ladoga, but can you turn it up as infrastructure AP? |
| 13:54.22 | pa | joikuspot does infrastructure i think |
| 13:54.36 | ladoga | joiku does ad-hoc |
| 13:54.40 | pa | aha |
| 13:54.46 | pa | so only one can connect at a time? |
| 13:55.07 | pa | hm.. sucks |
| 13:55.09 | bef0rd | sup |
| 13:55.22 | bef0rd | joiku supports several clients |
| 13:56.01 | pa | then it cant be ad-hoc, can it? |
| 13:56.10 | pa | doesnt ad-hoc support only one? |
| 13:56.27 | ladoga | it's show as adhoc atleast when i try to connect to it |
| 13:56.32 | bef0rd | well I've connected my laptop and n900 at the same time |
| 13:56.40 | bef0rd | but yea, it shows as adhoc |
| 13:56.42 | ladoga | + doesn't work on driver with no adhoc support |
| 13:57.32 | pa | i see |
| 13:57.46 | ladoga | i mean you can't connect to joiku's AP if wifi driver in client doesn't support ad-hoc |
| 13:58.20 | pa | but i mean, then joiku is simply doing some natting, isnt it? |
| 14:03.39 | ladoga | http://pastebin.com/jxdQGwfT |
| 14:04.01 | ladoga | that is while using joikuspot |
| 14:06.50 | ladoga | i guess so and routes to gprs0? |
| 14:10.42 | pa | yes i think thats what it does |
| 14:11.19 | pa | even tho.. |
| 14:11.26 | pa | for natting one would need iptables |
| 14:12.35 | ladoga | is there some dchp server on n9? |
| 14:12.52 | ladoga | dhcp |
| 14:13.25 | bef0rd | ladoga: what are you trying to do? |
| 14:13.31 | bef0rd | I came late to the chat |
| 14:14.05 | ladoga | nothing really |
| 14:14.18 | bef0rd | heh :P |
| 14:14.31 | ladoga | just halfassed look if i can connect directly to n9 using ad-hoc |
| 14:14.45 | ladoga | no need for it |
| 14:15.05 | bef0rd | just wanted to point out the piratebox package on TMO, I think it sets aa network with dhcp and other stuff for sharing files |
| 14:15.34 | ladoga | yes |
| 14:15.42 | ladoga | tried it. works nicely |
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| 14:22.27 | pa | thanks for the tip |
| 14:22.31 | pa | ill check it out too :) |
| 14:22.36 | MohammadAG | pa, pretty sure adhoc allows more than one |
| 14:26.55 | ladoga | there is udhcpd |
| 14:27.51 | ladoga | but looks like it needs some configuration |
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| 14:45.10 | ladoga | it would be nice to have an app that would put up ad-hoc AP and share select directory on http |
| 14:45.26 | Arkenoi | damn, new sowatch broke for me and i have no idea how to fix it |
| 14:45.30 | ladoga | piratebox without piratebox:) |
| 14:50.03 | ladoga | On N9 i'm using this little helper script for python SimpleHTTPServer to share directories over http http://raspi.dy.fi/ladoga/harmattan/scripts/httpshare |
| 14:50.08 | pa | ladoga, the second thing you can do with a number of soft |
| 14:50.23 | pa | wifitrans |
| 14:50.28 | pa | or puppy file server |
| 14:50.31 | pa | or another one |
| 14:50.59 | pa | the ad hoc ap was what is missing :) |
| 14:51.17 | ladoga | im using python for that..works better than puppy etc. |
| 14:51.45 | ladoga | with that script "httpshare <directory>" |
| 14:52.01 | ladoga | shares the directory |
| 14:53.46 | ladoga | ofcourse you could just cd to the directory and run "python -m SimpleHTTPServer" |
| 14:54.03 | ladoga | then there isn't need to install anything |
| 14:54.51 | ladoga | pa: http://raspi.dy.fi/ladoga/harmattan/scripts/httpshare_screenshot.png |
| 14:56.40 | ladoga | so yes that + ad-hoc AP would be useful |
| 14:57.16 | pa | simpleHTTPServer is actually pretty limited |
| 14:57.23 | pa | and gave me a lot of issues in the past |
| 14:57.37 | pa | better if you use twisted |
| 14:57.54 | ladoga | ok |
| 14:58.00 | pa | not sure it's available for harmattan, tho |
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| 21:40.07 | evil_core | kernel-plus includes aegis patches? |
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| 21:42.51 | jonni | in open mode you really dont need any patches since aegis fixed origin works |
| 21:51.13 | evil_core | So I dont undrerstand whats for patches for kernel in forum posts, if after altering kernel it always work in Open Mode :/ |
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| 22:22.52 | jonni | evil_core: only patch that is needed is the disable of module checksums, and even that one is only needed if you want to use same modules than stock kernel. If you install your own custom modules, then there is no patching required. |
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| 22:23.43 | jonni | and there is ofcourse those aegis easing patches, but those are just for people who dont know how to use fixed origin |
| 22:25.06 | evil_core | I was reading many posts, but I even don't know how to use that N9 thingy |
| 22:25.44 | evil_core | I wasn't sleeping all night and I am i nvery bad condition. But its not easy to brick phone to staqte when flasher will not help, right? |
| 22:27.08 | jonni | you can basicly always reflash the phone, only thing where you can brick the phone is when you are messing with CAL blocks |
| 22:27.35 | jonni | but normal people don't luckily even know what they are :) |
| 22:28.11 | evil_core | I was reading somewhere that flasher will not work if partition table is changed, is that true? |
| 22:29.11 | jonni | well that depends, you can force flasher to repartition with a special command ;) |
| 22:37.54 | evil_core | when kernel is broken I need to reflash? Or maybe I can access somehow from linux? |
| 22:41.25 | jonni | well if its really broken then ofcourse you need to reflash to fix it, but yes you can access your filesystem with rescue kernel if needed |
| 22:41.39 | Pali | jonni, hi |
| 22:41.50 | jonni | but kernels dont get broken by miracle :) |
| 22:41.57 | jonni | Pali: hi |
| 22:43.15 | Pali | jonni, are you allowed to look at 0xFFFF documentation file about fiasco format and tell if is correct? |
| 22:44.42 | evil_core | jonni: but 1st I need to install such rescue kernel, right? |
| 22:45.02 | evil_core | rescue kernel is initramfs with minimal system, or something like that? |
| 22:45.04 | jonni | evil_core: no you dont, you can load rescue kernel only in ram without installing it |
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| 22:51.25 | evil_core | I need to install only rootfs.bin, or emmc too? |
| 23:01.30 | evil_core | whats the best kernel? |
| 23:13.00 | evil_core | how much space all continent maps will take? |
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