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| 09:50.28 | ladoga | this new stellarium qml port is really nice :) |
| 09:51.06 | ladoga | http://thelarge.org/stellarium-n9/ |
| 09:52.19 | ladoga | there's no offical announce thread on tmo so it's easy to miss |
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| 10:02.29 | Elleo | ladoga: oh that's handy, thanks for pointing that out |
| 10:02.45 | Elleo | the previous port missed out on lots of useful stuff like accelerometer based tracking |
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| 10:09.11 | ladoga | Elleo: yes, the tracking was most important for me too |
| 10:09.25 | ladoga | and it's very well implemented in this one |
| 10:10.30 | ladoga | you can zoom to view invidual planets + their moons and filtering algorithm filters away vibrations |
| 10:11.12 | ladoga | individual* |
| 10:11.45 | ladoga | when FOV is fractions of degrees it becomes very important |
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| 10:14.41 | ladoga | i just made a blank terrain for myself. small one color png with upper half transparent, so no need to use that mars ground image (others feels bit resource heavy) |
| 10:15.52 | ladoga | at night uniform black ground texture doesn't really matter as the ground is almost black anyway |
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| 10:17.43 | ladoga | landscapes are in /opt/stellarium-n9/share/landscapes/ |
| 10:19.30 | ladoga | excuse my monologue. i'll go to grab some food. :) |
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| 11:13.54 | Lava_Croft | I seem to be unable to get rid of the "Data storage full" error when syncing my calendar with either MfE or CalDav. |
| 11:14.04 | Lava_Croft | I have already deleted the entire calendar db |
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| 16:41.23 | vcamelblue | hi, i'm trying to enable the developer mode, but he say that is impossible to found the package... |
| 16:41.37 | vcamelblue | and stop installation |
| 16:48.45 | djszapi_ | try later |
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| 16:52.09 | vcamelblue | i'm traying at least 3 h... :/ is bossible to install the package with .deb? |
| 16:52.45 | djszapi_ | not really. |
| 16:53.07 | djszapi_ | try tomorrow for instance. |
| 17:01.52 | qwazix | anybody with a PR1.2 N9 around? |
| 17:02.09 | djszapi_ | o/ |
| 17:02.20 | qwazix | \o |
| 17:02.39 | qwazix | btw no N9's anymore on RDA? |
| 17:02.47 | qwazix | they got a friggin N81! |
| 17:03.15 | qwazix | (also protip: there's a 64gb 512mb N950 on rda) |
| 17:03.25 | suosaaski | rda? :) |
| 17:03.33 | qwazix | nokia remote device access |
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| 17:04.07 | qwazix | I'm desperate to find a pr1.2 N9 to test rawcam as the ovi QA reports that they can't launch it |
| 17:04.27 | qwazix | it launches ok here on pr1.0, pr1.2 (N950) and pr1.3 N9 |
| 17:04.54 | qwazix | I don't know what to do and they don't provide any log or something helpful |
| 17:04.59 | qwazix | just, I can't launch |
| 17:05.55 | suosaaski | ok, so rda... is it anywhere the same place that navifirm downloads images? |
| 17:06.12 | qwazix | Now I can upgrade my PR1.0 N9 to PR1.2 but I don't want to... |
| 17:06.37 | qwazix | rda is http://www.developer.nokia.com/Devices/Remote_device_access/ |
| 17:07.16 | qwazix | infobot, rda is Nokia Remote Device Access and can be found here: http://www.developer.nokia.com/Devices/Remote_device_access/ |
| 17:07.17 | infobot | qwazix: okay |
| 17:10.23 | arcean | qwazix: I've done some tests with the N950 camera's lens and for sure it has f/2.8 28mm |
| 17:10.50 | arcean | moreover, the focal lenght data in exif (jpeg from camera-ui) is wrong |
| 17:11.07 | qwazix | arcean, who said otherwise? |
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| 17:11.35 | arcean | many people and the exif :) ^ |
| 17:11.51 | qwazix | what does exif say? |
| 17:12.01 | arcean | 35mm focal length |
| 17:12.20 | arcean | even on n950-beta devices |
| 17:13.03 | qwazix | seems wrong anyway. I suppose that's 35mm film equivalent focal length |
| 17:13.41 | qwazix | because I expect something like single digit real focal length taking into account the size of the sensor |
| 17:13.44 | arcean | hmm maybe |
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| 17:15.21 | qwazix | micro four thirds focal length on the default lens fully zoomed out (about the same fov as a mobile) is 14 |
| 17:16.13 | qwazix | but if we are talking equivalent to full-frame then 28mm seems about right |
| 17:21.45 | hoco24 | Hi, is there a general recommended start point to learn about harmattan system and app development for it? bought my n9 yesterday. |
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| 17:23.48 | qwazix | hoco24, harmattan-dev website |
| 17:23.59 | hoco24 | i study computer science, know java programming, but lack app Dev experience :-) |
| 17:24.04 | qwazix | http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/ |
| 17:24.18 | hoco24 | thank you |
| 17:24.58 | s3rd4r | selam |
| 17:25.19 | qwazix | Download Qt Sdk from here http://www.developer.nokia.com/Develop/Qt/Tools/ |
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| 17:25.55 | qwazix | The N9 is probably the easiest device to code on available for sale today |
| 17:27.13 | hoco24 | sounds great. thanks! any other channels than this one, too? |
| 17:30.21 | qwazix | talk.maemo.org has good info but mostly end-user talk there |
| 17:31.03 | qwazix | You are welcome to #nemomobile in case you'd like to try a new OS on your N9 |
| 17:33.56 | hoco24 | I'll note that, but for now i like the stock one.thanks for the advice! |
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| 18:05.06 | qwazix | how do I force replace system packages (open-mode)? |
| 18:06.19 | arcean | AEGIS_FIXED_ORIGIN=com.nokia.maemo dpkg -i /path/to/file |
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| 18:07.06 | qwazix | thanks! |
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| 18:32.45 | Sfiet_Konstantin | hello qwazix :) |
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| 20:20.22 | gabriel9 | what is the event for orientation change for page? |
| 20:21.20 | gabriel9 | is there one in QML |
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| 20:32.15 | gabriel9 | anyone |
| 20:32.16 | gabriel9 | :/ |
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| 20:34.51 | qwazix | I think there's no one but you can bind on the onWidthChanged event of your page |
| 20:35.06 | qwazix | hello, Sfiet_Konstantin! |
| 20:36.00 | qwazix | gabriel9: and then check if width>500 |
| 20:37.28 | gabriel9 | qwazix: thanks |
| 20:38.03 | qwazix | yw |
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| 20:41.08 | gabriel9 | every event is fired two time :/ |
| 20:44.24 | qwazix | gabriel9, which events? |
| 20:45.51 | gabriel9 | mainColumnContent |
| 20:45.55 | gabriel9 | onWidthChanged |
| 20:45.59 | gabriel9 | that event |
| 20:46.13 | gabriel9 | when i rotate device it fires 4 time |
| 20:47.21 | qwazix | Strange |
| 20:47.47 | qwazix | I'm not sure I used it directly but I don't recall anything like that. |
| 20:48.28 | gabriel9 | sorry 3 times fired |
| 20:48.29 | qwazix | By the way if you just want to change layout or something, it's better not to use the event, but bind everything with the ternary operator to the width of the page |
| 20:48.30 | gabriel9 | :D |
| 20:48.57 | qwazix | for example value: page.width>500?something:somethingelse |
| 20:49.06 | gabriel9 | nice one |
| 20:49.08 | gabriel9 | :) |
| 20:49.10 | gabriel9 | thanks |
| 20:50.01 | qwazix | That's better than using the event, first because you don't have to care about how many times it fires and second because it's live and even if you miss one rotation things will not go fubar |
| 20:50.42 | gabriel9 | yes you are right |
| 20:51.08 | gabriel9 | error: Expected token `:' |
| 20:51.20 | gabriel9 | i get this error when i paste that line in page element |
| 20:51.55 | qwazix | ehm, let me see |
| 20:54.36 | qwazix | see this https://github.com/qwazix/qmlpackagemanager/blob/master/qml/package-manager/MainView.qml#L74 |
| 20:54.57 | njsf | Is there any mp3/mp4 metadata editor for Harmattan ? |
| 20:55.05 | qwazix | it's about the same thing, changes no of columns depending on orientation |
| 20:55.55 | gabriel9 | wait i need to check it |
| 20:57.16 | qwazix | To make sure the event fires 3 times is not your fault (maybe on rotation the page passes from a transitional value of zero width or sth), you could start a new project with only one page and a console.log on the widthchanged of the page (or maybe even the PageStackWindow) and see how many times it fires |
| 20:59.43 | qwazix | On the link I gave you there's a variable on line 35 called isPortrait bound to the conditional width > height. On line 74 there's just a binding with the conditional being the 'isPortrait' variable |
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