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00:21.45evil_coreHi all
00:22.13evil_coreHow can I resend sent e-mail as sms, or copy text from it?
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03:51.41*** topic/#harmattan is A place for harmattan device and development discussions | Customers help customers on #N9 | Please stay on topic and no NDA stuff here | Developers : http://library.developer.nokia.com/ | http://wiki.meego.com/N950_landing_page | logs: http://mg.pov.lt/harmattan-irclog/ | ~aegis-no-thanks | LATEST ~update | http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/14/nokia-reportedly-scraps-meltemi/
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09:38.05pai concluded that for my dad the best is a used N8 :)
09:39.40ladogawhy n8?
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10:04.07pacoz its cheap, and for the camera
10:15.27paand its unfair N8 has shazam and N9 doesnt. :(
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11:51.54vcamelblueno
11:52.28vcamelblueno luck today...i still can't install the developer mode package...
11:53.50vcamelbluecan someone try (after flash) to enable developer mode?
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11:57.30rigovcamelblue, keep on trying. Sometimes the only reason is that nokia servers are down
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12:05.48vcamelbluemmm...i can't install also firefox...
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12:17.41rigovcamelblue: look if your network is working. Sometimes the DNS is having fun.
12:18.39rigomy phone would only install dev mode over a 3G connection. Once done, everything else installed fine with wifi
12:19.04rigono clue whether this is due to phone or carrier or other things
12:19.12rigos/is/was/
12:19.58vcamelblueok...i'm not have tryed in 3g...
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12:24.32vcamelblue__ooooo yeah! work with 3g...so i think was my wifi :/ thanks bro!
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14:31.08dekatchhi, guess isnt the right place to ask . but probably someone can give me a tipp. i want to know what RM version my lumia 800 device has!. there is a RM-801, RM-819 and a lumia800C RM-802 . how to check what my lumia has?
14:49.48MohammadAGso if something is on the refhashlist, does editing it = malf?
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15:13.36M4rtinKis it possible the list the current namespace for a QML file ?
15:14.28M4rtinKI'm testing a bit complicated import scheme and this would be quite handy for debugging
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15:59.00merlin1991MohammadAG: yes but you can rehash it
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16:19.11njsfAnybody know how to restart the calendar service ?
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16:32.23njsfOr how to rebuild the birthday calendar ?
16:35.32njsfOr how to fix the "Can't import contacts" ?
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18:04.57ZogG_laptopMohammadAG: sup
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19:26.03suosaaskiSo... is there a way to sync carddav with N9?
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19:26.57suosaaskiJust thinking that if my phone were to get broken etc, and I got a new N9, what options would I have for syncing contants with gmail...
19:31.11ajalkaneWretched proprietary protocol MfE has been cast away from kingdom of Google. Rejoice. Now open protocols have ascended to their rightful place, just like we prayed so long ago. Who will implement CardDAV first for N9 will receive much praise and accolades from our holy communion. Go forth and make it so.
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19:33.32suosaaski:)
19:34.11suosaaskiToo bad it seems that it would be wise to either change away from google or n9. Changing from google is cheaper, of course :)
19:35.02suosaaskiI might start using ms account but I kinda hate the fact that I registered it a long time ago with my gmail address and I would like to change it.
19:35.16ajalkaneMy personall recommendation and timelines: 1) Change away from MfE NOW 2) Change away from Google eventually 3) Change away from N9 in the summer when Jolla phone are available.
19:36.29suosaaskiajalkane: yes, but if I were to change away from mfe, how would I sync contacts? N9 can't seem to do it, which is weird since it does support gtalk so it kinda should be able to import contacts with a gmail account, too...
19:37.08suosaaskiSo I kinda need mfe.
19:37.13ajalkaneItem 1) requires you to code CardDAV implementation for N9 NOW. Which is why I recommended it first.
19:38.00suosaaskiUnless, of course, I were to switch back to using my nokia account for syncing contacts. Somehow I just have a feeling that the nokia account won't be around for a long time :)
19:38.24ajalkaneI also have the same weird kind of feelings!
19:39.09pawhy do you have to support carddav on N9?
19:39.24paimport it on gmail or outlook, and sync those instead?
19:40.02suosaaskipa: gmail will drop support of mfe, so the only way to support syncing to gmail is to support carddav
19:40.23pasuosaaski, i think N9 supports google contacts via gdata api
19:40.36pa(account type: google)
19:40.50pain addition to MfE
19:41.06suosaaskipa: never got any contacts besides gtalk from google with a "google" account instead of mfe.
19:41.18pai did
19:41.28pabut then you can also use syncgcontacts
19:41.45paor syncevolution
19:41.49ajalkaneHmm... hm.... I do think suosaaski is correct in his, admittedly counter-intuitive, claim.
19:42.19paajalkane, i think long time ago i tried to sync contacts with "google" account
19:42.22paand it worked
19:42.47suosaaskiIt never worked for me, for other than the gtalk support
19:42.48ajalkanepa: You might be the first. Or all your contacts are in gtalk also :P
19:42.49pain fact it doesnt allow you to sync contacts from 2 different google accounts, which lets me think it goes in the pool of contacts
19:43.17pahm
19:43.17ajalkanepa: mayhaps you can try now again?
19:43.28palet see
19:44.16paah
19:44.20pathey removed it
19:44.26pahm
19:44.29paor maybe there wasnt
19:44.36paperhaps i remember wrong then
19:44.40pamust be so
19:44.53pawell then use syncgcontacts or syncevolution :)
19:44.59ajalkaneProbably... I know I had to use MfE since beta2 on N950
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19:49.50suosaaskiAnyway, if carddav were to be introduced, I really think it should be available in store, too... or something :)
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19:53.48ajalkaneOne would naively imagine having carddav plugin wouldn't be impossible. There must be open-source implementations of carddav protocol. The big black box is Harmattan's sync framework - I know nothing about it
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20:05.30paanyway, i dont think it's bad to go away from MfE
20:05.38pait sucks as protocol
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20:08.18suosaaskiwouldn't know about sucking, it seems to get the job done (and I have no idea how complex etc it is :))
20:08.38pait's slow as hell to sync
20:08.42paand often it fails
20:08.52pafrom a user perspective i mean
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20:54.17njsfWell the card merging from contacts also sucks like hell
20:54.38njsfIt looses stops syncing with sources
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20:55.03njsfthen you need to delete then re-add and it looses additional information you added and the merge info
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20:55.30njsfThe whole contact management in MeeGo is broken when stuff goes wrong
20:55.53njsflike if you need to reset tracker
20:56.06njsfit looses favorites etc
20:56.12njsfthe system is very brittle
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22:12.19paare fmrx packages available in rzr repo?
22:14.28RzRpa, I had one , should be updated i think
22:16.29pai meant fmrxd
22:16.41paRzR, do you have also qml radio from ggionni?
22:18.09RzRthats one is not opensource ICCR
22:18.12RzRIICR
22:18.46paah i see
22:20.35paRzR, do i have to add some specific deb repo in addition to your standard one? it seems fmrxd is not found
22:21.45RzRpa, hold on I am copying javis one
22:22.18RzRits building now
22:28.41RzRpa, refresh it now
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22:33.32pathanks
22:34.12pagreat thanks :)
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22:39.51paRzR, but is there some other fmrx package from javis?
22:39.59pai think fmrxd is not enough to run qmlradio
22:40.50pafmrx-utils
22:44.49RzRhttps://build.pub.meego.com/package/files?package=fmradio&project=home%3Arzr%3Aharmattan%3Aunstable ?
22:45.15RzRthat one should be fixed , but i wont do this now
22:48.27paok now it works, i installed the debs directly from javis depot
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