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08:48.50Hurriannow that a community member has a "Dali" N9, I wonder when a Columbus and Lauta will pop up.
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08:56.51fralslink?
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09:22.16JonniHurrian: you are just refering to silver proto 'dali' N950 (N9-00 forum thread), as there is no such thing as dali N9.
09:22.39HurrianJonni, yeah, I was referring to that. Although, in the images, it does have the marking "N9"
09:23.16Jonniwell yes protoes had different kind of markings, depending how much space there was in design
09:24.29juiceme:)
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09:32.34Hurrianjuiceme: got the kexec-boot working with forking a script?
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09:46.41juicemeHi Hurrian
09:47.03juicemenot yet, there's been so much to do haven't yet done it
09:47.23juicemeBeen playing with Nemo, updating just now...
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09:49.03juicemeDid get some nice info from Jonni, though. I did not know before that kernel writes crash logs do mtd3 :)
09:49.36juicemeStill it would be nicer to get another device that I could gut to get serial console on...
09:50.04juicemeam looking currently for one on an auction, hoping that the price does not get too high
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09:52.52juicemehi thedead1440
09:53.14thedead1440hi juiceme
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09:53.48juicemeSaw you pinged me the other day.. I was away for few days
09:54.13juicemeHi Hurrian...
09:54.19thedead1440ah it was about your telnet issue someone was having
09:54.21Hurrianohai juiceme
09:54.44HurrianJust rebooted for a bit, OS X doesn't like AHCI on this hardware
09:55.06juicemeyes I read it through.. also wrote quite a lot of it on IRC but only noticed later I was on #n9 and not on #harmattan then :)
09:55.40juicemeyes, Hurrian, saw you went down on all channels :)
09:56.02juicemedid you by chance saw what I wrote to ya 2 minutes ago?
09:56.22Hurrianyeah, reading the logs.
09:56.39juiceme... OK, Nemo update finished... lets boot it and see how it goes :)
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09:57.48Hurrianjuiceme: IIRC it's the crash logs that get written
09:58.17Hurrianwhich works for kernel panics and spontaneous reboots, not so much for kernel decompression stage
09:59.04juicemeYes, that's the reason I would like to have rx/tx
09:59.40juicemelooked up the pins from schemas, but I would not like to risk my main device for debugging :)
09:59.55Hurrianjuiceme, check this: http://kexecboot.org/screenshots
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10:00.33Hurriansince the bug in starting Harmattan is /somewhere/ in running kexec (and not kexec itself), this may help
10:01.08juicemethanks
10:01.35Hurrianyou may want to look into how exactly it starts kexec()
10:02.56juicemeWell I am quite sure it is Harmattan-specific thingy. Jonni hinted that they tried to make it non-kexecable as a security measure :(
10:03.41juicemeThat I can confirm, for ex. it's easy to start both Nemo and Nitdroid via kexec() ...
10:07.42Hurrianhmm, maybe it could be a quirk in preinit?
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10:08.15Hurriankexec should be transparent to the succeeding OS, ideally
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10:48.20gabriel9http://thenextweb.com/shareables/2013/01/12/this-is-the-funniest-windows-error-message-youve-ever-seen/
10:48.23gabriel9:)
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10:50.32juicemeHurrian: well, I am fairly sure that whatever it is it happens either before kernel calls /sbin/preinit or somewhere in the start of it.
10:51.07juicemeI adder tex2screen printouts to preinit, and none are seen when it hangs
10:51.20juicemes/adder/added/
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10:54.19Hurrianjuiceme: hmm, /sbin/preinit should be fairly… unintegrated with the kernel security systems
10:54.56Hurrianit's really weird that it's refusing to run stuff under preinit when kexec is run by a script
10:55.11HurrianI suggest you try out kexecboot, see if that changes anything
10:55.52juicemeyes.
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13:29.56lpappJonni: do you know how to share the internet from my laptop over infrastructure so that I can connect to that from my BB10?
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13:33.32Jonnilpapp: windows, mac or linux laptop?
13:34.28lpappJonni: qnx :D
13:34.33lpappJonni: Archlinux.
13:36.58Jonnilpapp: then this package should do the trick http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Documentation/hostapd
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13:38.10lpappJonni: thanks.
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15:28.23thedead1440http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1315143&postcount=96  <--- temp mirror with all repos till normal service is resumed
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17:18.09sledgeshello
17:18.37sledgesAndroid's bad that it runs even a simple C app in a sandboxed Dalvik VM, performance-wise; but this is good when you think about app-permissions - what they can access, give out to public (your location, PIM, etc..) How is aegis addressing that? (Im a total aegis noob, barely know a thing except that it mounts hells of partitions :))
17:30.50Jonnisledges: http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/docs/library/html/guide/html/Developer_Library_Developing_for_Harmattan_Harmattan_security.html
17:31.31sledgesthanks Jonni
17:44.24SpeedEvilaegis ...
17:44.26SpeedEvilthat
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