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| 11:45.31 | ladoga | hurrian what you think of: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1326875&postcount=374 |
| 11:46.21 | ladoga | javispedro probably knows what he's talking about |
| 11:47.04 | Hurrian | ladoga, clearing the folders in ~/ owned by Aegis works. |
| 11:47.28 | ladoga | but I haven't encountered any problems after removing aegis mounts (did so many moons ago) |
| 11:47.58 | Hurrian | Yep. I don't know what javispedro's going on about - the Open Mode patch for Aegis simply returns "YES MASTAH" for any and all calls to it. |
| 11:48.34 | ladoga | gps locks under 5sec, battery usage is ca 3mA idle (16+ days on one charge) |
| 11:48.51 | Hurrian | The slow GPS lock and high battery usage are fixed by clearing odpsd (I think it sounded like that) |
| 11:49.02 | ladoga | havent had any crashes or apps going zombie yet |
| 11:49.21 | ladoga | but thqtw likely just because i havent got many apps installed |
| 11:49.42 | ladoga | on my non openmode phone i've had my share or those |
| 11:49.50 | ladoga | of* |
| 11:50.04 | Hurrian | laodga: fwiw, there aren't many apps for harmattan ;) |
| 11:50.39 | ladoga | but there are few buggy ones:) |
| 11:51.28 | juiceme | Hurrian, ladoga, hi |
| 11:52.01 | ladoga | i removed aegis stuff from ~ before flashing openmode on cleanly flashed device |
| 11:52.12 | Hurrian | ohai juiceme. |
| 11:52.25 | ladoga | and when in openmode i removed aegis mounts |
| 11:52.52 | juiceme | Thought of the problems some people have booting the 2nd stahe kernel, and there is this thing, I streamlined the /sbin/preinit_armattan a bit... that might cause problems for somebody |
| 11:53.35 | ladoga | hi juice |
| 11:53.53 | juiceme | Do you know if the /sbin/init is exactly same for 64G and 16G devices? |
| 11:54.02 | Hurrian | juiceme: yes, it is. |
| 11:54.02 | juiceme | hi :) |
| 11:54.09 | Hurrian | juiceme: the firmware images are the same. |
| 11:54.14 | juiceme | ok, that makes it easier |
| 11:54.50 | Hurrian | juiceme: by streamlining, I assume you mean taking out the features and functions that obviously are not available or needed in a direct-Harmattan boot? |
| 11:55.01 | juiceme | Yes, I know they are same in the beginning, but there is some customizaton during the flashing, forex. the partition sizes |
| 11:55.14 | juiceme | Hurrian, exactly |
| 11:56.03 | Hurrian | juiceme: IIRC ape-algo takes care of partitioning. After that, the binaries on mmcblk0p2 are the same. |
| 11:56.16 | juiceme | BTW, I just created a boot kernel with integrated initramfs containing the ubiboot FS :) |
| 11:56.53 | juiceme | But I am not sure if I dare to flash it, the size is 11M :) :) |
| 11:56.54 | Hurrian | juiceme: With stripped down animations to fit in mtd2? |
| 11:57.12 | juiceme | it _should_fit |
| 11:57.14 | Hurrian | Well, worst case scenario is that it hangs on boot. |
| 11:57.37 | juiceme | can I accidentally flash over mtd partition border? |
| 11:57.44 | juiceme | I don't think so |
| 11:57.53 | juiceme | well, here goes nothing... |
| 11:59.04 | ladoga | i'd like to see output when booting. who needs animations? :) |
| 12:00.06 | juiceme | OMB, never took so long to flash a kernel :) |
| 12:00.11 | juiceme | almost 4 seconds |
| 12:00.32 | juiceme | whoo, booted :) |
| 12:00.37 | Hurrian | juiceme: is that an initrd appended to the end of a zImage? |
| 12:00.55 | juiceme | yeps :) |
| 12:01.40 | Hurrian | So, where's configuration stored? |
| 12:01.53 | ladoga | yay |
| 12:02.30 | juiceme | well, only one thing needs to be stored, and that's the boot.conf |
| 12:02.46 | juiceme | I decided to put that in Harmattan /boot |
| 12:02.55 | Hurrian | ah. |
| 12:02.56 | juiceme | mmcblk0p2 |
| 12:05.13 | juiceme | ah |
| 12:05.22 | juiceme | forgot one thing... too bad |
| 12:05.29 | juiceme | need to rebuild it... |
| 12:06.14 | juiceme | thee is one dependency in boot conf it needs in init, and it cannot read it until it mounts mmcblk0p2 "later phase... |
| 12:06.51 | juiceme | well, it only causes it to boot straight off the 1st OS on the list :) |
| 12:08.38 | ladoga | ah..harmattan has kernel config shown in /boot |
| 12:09.00 | ladoga | i was looking for /proc/config.gz earlier |
| 12:10.15 | ladoga | now i know why it's not built in |
| 12:13.02 | ladoga | as you seem to know about these things can you tell me what wtd stands for...lot of wtdsomething modules blacklisted in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf |
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| 12:15.15 | Hurrian | ladoga: it's wdt, the watchdog timer that prevents the N9 from rebooting |
| 12:15.52 | Hurrian | well, actually, should the module not respond in time, the N9/50 reboots itself, with the assumption that the OS hung. |
| 12:16.02 | ladoga | yes wdt, sorry |
| 12:17.09 | ladoga | thedead blacklisted power button module yesterday |
| 12:17.29 | ladoga | which works, disables powerbtn |
| 12:19.39 | ladoga | twl4030_pwrbutton |
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| 12:26.19 | n9flash | Hi all. (this is going to sound shady, but...) Does anyone know where I can get the N9 firmware since the Nokia site is down? |
| 12:26.54 | n9flash | Adding an M4E account to my N9 today and it turned on the security code requirement, but never asked me to set a security code in the first place. |
| 12:27.28 | n9flash | Any help in find the relevant firmware would be fantastic, as my N9 is currently just a brick. |
| 12:28.06 | juiceme | As far as I know Nokia has not yet pulled plug on the dowlnoad servers |
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| 12:29.27 | juiceme | have you tried NaviFirmEx? |
| 12:30.09 | n9flash | No - tried going to http://www.btusers.com.ar/nan/nokia/ as I don't have a Windows install handy, and I couldn't be bothered installing Wine if I could get away with it |
| 12:30.21 | n9flash | So NaviFirmEx can still retrieve the firmware? |
| 12:30.59 | juiceme | Well I used to run it on wine. Worked for me last time I checked, abouth a month ago |
| 12:31.14 | juiceme | I can check if you like |
| 12:31.31 | n9flash | That would be great - I'll start installing Wine in any cas |
| 12:31.41 | n9flash | ...e |
| 12:33.23 | juiceme | n9flash, yep, seems to be up |
| 12:33.39 | juiceme | what's your device localization? |
| 12:33.47 | n9flash | Thanks - I'll keep proceeding with the Wine installation :) |
| 12:33.54 | juiceme | ok :) |
| 12:33.56 | n9flash | Australian 64GB black |
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| 12:34.05 | n9flash | I think it was PR 299 |
| 12:35.09 | juiceme | Yep, "Australia AU Black 64GB VI - MR (059l7G7) |
| 12:35.35 | juiceme | Yep, "Australia AU Black 16GB VI - MR (059l698) |
| 12:35.36 | n9flash | "Failed to get product list, server returned info..... Unsupported Method" |
| 12:36.07 | juiceme | ok... |
| 12:36.20 | n9flash | Sim tray says 059L7G7 |
| 12:36.22 | juiceme | Just a moment, Ill give you download links |
| 12:36.29 | n9flash | Cheers mte |
| 12:36.34 | n9flash | -mate- |
| 12:36.42 | juiceme | 059L7G7 is 64G-black, same as mine |
| 12:38.15 | n9flash | I thought I would just go back to my N900 for a few days until I could sort the N9 out. Wasn't until I tried to put the micro sim in that I remembered why I couldn't do that :) |
| 12:39.44 | dm8tbr | just use some tape to put it in place... |
| 12:41.28 | n9flash | Wouldn't it still shift around? Not that it would matter - it would only be temporary. |
| 12:41.57 | juiceme | ok, try these: |
| 12:41.59 | juiceme | http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/p/d/fds_fire/1208/2314/7087828442/E10C8FCB_DFL61_HARMATTAN_40.2012.21-3.299.1_PR_LEGACY_299_ARM_RM-696_PRD_signed.bin |
| 12:42.05 | juiceme | http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/p/d/fds_fire/1208/2314/7087828450/DF5035B2_DFL61_HARMATTAN_40.2012.21-3.SEAP.16_EMMC_SEAP.bin |
| 12:42.42 | n9flash | Brilliant - retrieving now. |
| 12:42.49 | juiceme | :) |
| 12:42.57 | n9flash | Thank you very much - you saved me! |
| 12:43.06 | juiceme | no problem :) |
| 12:44.04 | juiceme | There should be an easier way to find the files, something else as an obscure windoze-only browser... |
| 12:44.22 | juiceme | since they can be retrived by wget in any case. |
| 12:44.32 | Hurrian | juiceme: easy solution: mirror them to skeiron after obtaining redistribution rights. |
| 12:45.00 | n9flash | +1 for that idea Hurrian - that's certainly where I got the flasher from |
| 12:45.05 | juiceme | yes, that is the correct solution |
| 12:45.21 | Hurrian | one tiny little problem: how the **** do we accommodate all PR_LEGACY |
| 12:45.27 | n9flash | I haven't been following t.m.o for a few months now, so I was surprised by all the changes that have been happening |
| 12:46.00 | Hurrian | even doing something simple like flashing a kernel requires sw-cert and ape-algo from the rootfs bin. |
| 12:48.16 | radiofree | n9flash: i use a microsim in my n900 |
| 12:48.40 | radiofree | haven't had a problem with it |
| 12:49.05 | n9flash | With tape or with an adapter (which I have now lost 2 of) |
| 12:49.26 | radiofree | with nothing :) |
| 12:49.33 | radiofree | just align it correctly |
| 12:49.42 | n9flash | Doesn't shuffle about? |
| 12:49.44 | radiofree | nope |
| 12:50.11 | juiceme | aaahhh, Hurrian, now I know what's the problem... |
| 12:50.13 | n9flash | Fair enough - I think I'll give that a try if I can't get the N9 flashed tomorrow morning. |
| 12:50.28 | juiceme | in my integrated kernel+initramfs thingy |
| 12:51.56 | juiceme | See, I made the initramfs that is attached to the kernel off the current ubifs image, only tweaking the bits that control how the boot.conf is sourced in init and select_os_animated |
| 12:52.25 | juiceme | the modules _should_be same on this kernel and the one I built before |
| 12:52.48 | juiceme | but for some reason I get stuff like " g_multi: relocation out of range, section 2 reloc 1 sym 'printk'" |
| 12:52.54 | juiceme | in my dmesg |
| 12:53.22 | juiceme | obviously my modules are not correct, i wonder why.... |
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| 12:54.13 | juiceme | and for that reason lots of stuff fails which leads it to just flash the top menu and continue to boot defauld 2nd stage kernel :) |
| 12:54.41 | juiceme | Well I'll have to fix that later. Good I can boot something :) |
| 12:56.07 | n9flash | juiceme: Thanks again - downloads are progressing nicely and I'll be able to get a good nights sleep :) |
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| 12:56.28 | juiceme | good! |
| 12:56.58 | juiceme | keep the files for future reference :) You never know when they pull the plug... |
| 12:58.03 | valdur55 | oh funny. My device doesn't boot anymore. Just being on NOKIA logo... problem with /etc/init.d/groups-system.conf file. How can i acces to phone? |
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| 12:59.19 | juiceme | use FIX-MALF maintanance boot |
| 12:59.59 | valdur55 | --set-rd-flags=fix-malf ? |
| 13:00.26 | juiceme | no, see the page: http://wiki.meego.com/N950/Fixing_MALF_state |
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| 13:01.12 | juiceme | You need to download a kernel & rootfs image, and bootflash it to device. |
| 13:01.37 | valdur55 | :D lol. i had ubiboot installed in var. I reflashed with ububoot kernel and now i am in ubiboot (y) |
| 13:01.49 | juiceme | Then, your filesystems getexported via USB to your linux PC, and you can fix the problems |
| 13:02.04 | juiceme | ahh, thats different then |
| 13:02.18 | juiceme | ubiboot has integrated repair mode :) |
| 13:02.40 | valdur55 | Yea. i know :D |
| 13:02.46 | juiceme | So, are you in repair mode now? |
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| 13:02.52 | valdur55 | Lol yea! |
| 13:03.27 | juiceme | ok, can you see what is wrong with your /etc/init.d/groups-system.conf |
| 13:03.47 | valdur55 | sure! |
| 13:03.57 | juiceme | :) |
| 13:04.04 | valdur55 | Because i added two # marks. |
| 13:04.07 | juiceme | then it's no problem |
| 13:04.28 | juiceme | this is exactly why I put in the repair mode |
| 13:04.49 | juiceme | cos I f***d up my own device fairly often :) |
| 13:04.57 | valdur55 | :D |
| 13:05.01 | juiceme | .. |
| 13:05.08 | juiceme | gotta run, catch a train |
| 13:05.11 | valdur55 | ok! |
| 13:05.14 | juiceme | see ya all |
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| 13:42.34 | valdur55 | Good. my device is working again.. but still.. I can't use it with ubiboot boot menu ( wrong conf ). |
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| 13:50.14 | thedead1440 | Hurrian: DocScrutinizer05 good news :D :D |
| 13:50.37 | thedead1440 | got it repaired for S$40 (24eur) |
| 13:51.10 | thedead1440 | went to nokia care they said $150 but they would reflash even though i showed them their service manual which doesn't mention reflashing anywhere |
| 13:51.37 | thedead1440 | Finally found a nerd girl who disassembled but gave up when she thought the brown inner part is glued to the sheel |
| 13:51.55 | thedead1440 | showing her the 20+min video she understood how to do it and fixed it in around a hour and half |
| 13:52.21 | thedead1440 | DocScrutinizer05: thanks for reminding me to take the videos and service manuals along. they saved the day :D |
| 13:53.26 | valdur55 | thedead1440: nice! |
| 13:53.53 | thedead1440 | valdur55: thanks :D |
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| 13:54.48 | thedead1440 | had to find among 6 shops for that girl who was interested in fixing this. Of course i told her if she screwed up she wasn't responsible as she wasn't willing to try otherwise. |
| 13:58.24 | valdur55 | OK. my problem is with l2fixed kendel with ububoot. Oke, i will use zImage now. |
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| 13:58.46 | thedead1440 | juiceme: i understood the crashing of apps. coderus posted its when he installs apps from store during installation all his other apps are closed including store. However, i've got in normal mode before too and although all apps are closed including store the remaining installations are completed. So its not a crash but maybe some postinst scripts of apps that restart certain services that do a closure of open apps. |
| 13:59.00 | thedead1440 | s/got in/got it in/ |
| 13:59.41 | valdur55 | juiceme: I am waitining your integrated initramfs solution |
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| 14:07.33 | valdur55 | thedead1440: I have no problems with ovistore. I renamed prevoius dpkg to dpkg.aegis and copied dpkg.real as dpkg. And i commented "start aegisfs" line in /etc/init/group-mce.conf |
| 14:08.11 | thedead1440 | valdur55: its not necessary for all apps; i would like to narrow it down to which apps but i've experienced this a number of times |
| 14:08.18 | valdur55 | ps ax | grep aegisfs gives only grep command :) |
| 14:08.18 | thedead1440 | in both normal and open modes |
| 14:09.10 | thedead1440 | ah that's worth doing but i don't know if it helps for ovistore |
| 14:10.40 | valdur55 | And there comes lack of PATH issue. Dpkg needs /usr/sbin path |
| 14:10.57 | thedead1440 | nope /usr/bin/ |
| 14:11.21 | thedead1440 | or you meant something else. sorry i understood that dpkg's location |
| 14:11.35 | thedead1440 | s/that/that as / |
| 14:12.17 | thedead1440 | mine: |
| 14:12.18 | thedead1440 | ~# echo $PATH |
| 14:12.20 | valdur55 | Oh yea.. my english is poor. I meant $PATH |
| 14:12.28 | valdur55 | NB: root's PATH should usually contain /usr/local/sbin, /usr/sbin and /sbin |
| 14:12.31 | thedead1440 | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:13.26 | thedead1440 | so for openmode's instructions the dpkg step should be mentioned too right? |
| 14:14.09 | valdur55 | Lol... developer user have problem with $PATH |
| 14:15.19 | valdur55 | One problem with this dpkg.real is : No AEGIS_HASH_FDS environment |
| 14:15.42 | thedead1440 | what would that limit? no fixed origin support? |
| 14:15.59 | valdur55 | i used dpkg.real |
| 14:16.31 | valdur55 | s/i /i basicaly / |
| 14:16.52 | thedead1440 | i'm sorry i don't really know what's AEGIS_HASH_FDS env. Is it limiting in any way to not have this env? |
| 14:18.28 | valdur55 | Dunno... it works for me. |
| 14:18.44 | thedead1440 | fixed origin still works right? |
| 14:18.55 | valdur55 | yep. |
| 14:19.12 | thedead1440 | ah then maybe this is the reason for some apps closing |
| 14:19.35 | thedead1440 | i think i should test tweak T of N9QT now and see if it still exits halfway thru the process |
| 14:19.54 | valdur55 | no.. usualy is dpkg from aegis times. |
| 14:20.36 | valdur55 | Lol.. i don't know what i am tlaking.... |
| 14:21.18 | valdur55 | When i tried apt-get install without fixed origin, then it just stopped in one point |
| 14:21.36 | valdur55 | s/in /at |
| 14:21.38 | thedead1440 | this one is weird. |
| 14:21.43 | thedead1440 | i just tried Tweak T |
| 14:21.45 | valdur55 | s/in /at / |
| 14:21.55 | thedead1440 | and it rebooted he phone but it waited for everything to finish installing |
| 14:22.08 | thedead1440 | but it kept spewing No AEGIS_HASH_FDS environment errors |
| 14:22.31 | thedead1440 | i'll uninstall the tweak and install it again to see if it really works as the errors were quite a number |
| 14:22.48 | valdur55 | yea. it will spew much AEGIS_HASH_FDS errors. |
| 14:23.13 | thedead1440 | but things still get installed via fixed origin dpkg -i right? |
| 14:23.31 | valdur55 | then you should use old dpkg |
| 14:23.42 | valdur55 | s/old/original/ |
| 14:24.23 | thedead1440 | ? you said earlier on that fixed origin still works so then why use original dpkg? sorry if i'm a bit slow in understanding as i want to be certain about it |
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| 14:25.21 | valdur55 | Oh noes.... i meant that you are meaning original dpkg :) |
| 14:26.18 | thedead1440 | so you mean dpkg.real can't install via fixed origin? |
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| 14:29.49 | valdur55 | it doesn't check origin. |
| 14:30.12 | thedead1440 | ah so if you were to replace a stock system package with an unknown origin package it would go ahead with it? |
| 14:31.05 | valdur55 | yep. |
| 14:31.20 | thedead1440 | ah so that's good isn't it? |
| 14:32.46 | valdur55 | Yea. |
| 14:32.58 | thedead1440 | ah thanks :) |
| 14:33.22 | valdur55 | But only problem is with AEGIS_HASH_FDS error. I found commit about it. |
| 14:33.37 | thedead1440 | Jonni: is there a reason why fixed origin dpkg -i is recommended over using dpkg.real? If dpkg.real disables origin checking isn't that better altogether? |
| 14:35.04 | valdur55 | patch: https://meego.gitorious.org/~mvo/meego-platform-security/reckless-dpkg/commit/4965434e330f9f91996767de43639caf362b6813?format=patch |
| 14:37.01 | thedead1440 | hehe "Shut up Aegis." |
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| 14:56.30 | Jonni | thedead1440: dpkg handles the refhaslist signing etc, so if your only secure mode, it malfs the device if you use .real. |
| 14:56.56 | thedead1440 | Jonni: so in open mode wouldn't .real be better than fixed origin then? |
| 14:57.16 | Jonni | thedead1440: in open mode .real malfs the device too if you have aegis active. |
| 14:57.27 | Jonni | thedead1440: using real is bad in secure and in open mode. |
| 14:57.34 | thedead1440 | oh |
| 14:57.54 | Jonni | thedead1440: as in openmode you can just use "AEGIS_FIXED_ORIGIN=com.nokia.maemo dpkg -i " |
| 14:57.56 | thedead1440 | how is aegis active in open mode? you mean if the aegis mounts are not removed? |
| 14:58.13 | Jonni | and all your applications are installed as trusted nokia zone |
| 14:58.28 | thedead1440 | yup i do that for a few things as and when required |
| 14:58.35 | Jonni | thedead1440: there is always aegis, unless you compile a custom kernel without aegis |
| 14:58.56 | valdur55 | aegis and aegis-session is started on boot. |
| 14:59.01 | Jonni | if you want a working device in openmode you just use full aegis and use AEGIS_FIXED_ORIGIN |
| 14:59.32 | valdur55 | damn.. i rm-ed my dpkg.real :D |
| 14:59.37 | thedead1440 | ah i see |
| 14:59.49 | valdur55 | Oh i have backup for that. |
| 15:00.19 | Jonni | (you can even patch the system to have com.nokia.maemo fixed origin by default, that way you just call dpkg without any parameters, and fully working device without ever seeing origin errors |
| 15:00.21 | Jonni | = |
| 15:00.25 | Jonni | ) |
| 15:00.53 | thedead1440 | patching the system is just adding an alias for dpkg -i isn't it? |
| 15:01.05 | Jonni | well that works too |
| 15:01.50 | Jonni | I've patched my secure mode side installer to allow AEGIS_FIXED_ORIGIN too, so dont even need to use open mode. |
| 15:02.36 | thedead1440 | ah in that case alias won't work then :D |
| 15:02.45 | thedead1440 | any idea about why apps close when installations occur via store? I've got the same issue in normal mode before too so its not an open mode issue per se. |
| 15:03.16 | Jonni | maybe out of memory process killer hits it? |
| 15:03.28 | Jonni | as system kills applications on low memory situations |
| 15:03.36 | thedead1440 | ah that would explain it |
| 15:11.38 | valdur55 | OK. i made shell script for dpkg fixed origin. |
| 15:14.29 | thedead1440 | why would you need a sh script for it? |
| 15:15.04 | valdur55 | It is system wide. Alias is only for current user |
| 15:15.47 | thedead1440 | ah |
| 15:16.09 | valdur55 | #!/bin/sh |
| 15:16.09 | valdur55 | AEGIS_FIXED_ORIGIN=com.nokia.maemo dpkg.aegis "$@" |
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| 15:40.56 | valdur55 | interesting: http://pastebin.com/VEgbNphr |
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| 15:57.43 | juiceme | valdur55, I will retry the initramfs solution tonight |
| 15:58.18 | valdur55 | lol: --force-confold --force-remove-fail --force-remove-reinstreq --status-fd 38 --unpack --auto-deconfigure /var/cache/apt/archives/frontcamera_0.1.3_armel.frontcamera |
| 15:58.49 | juiceme | oookay... that sure gets rid of it :) |
| 15:59.34 | valdur55 | It is behind ovistore :P |
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| 16:27.36 | khertan__ | BitPurse 1.5 submitted to the Nokia Store |
| 16:27.51 | khertan__ | let s see what will be the reason this time for the QA Failed |
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| 16:35.34 | rigo | anybody a clue whether there is a businesscard ocr software for meego (N9)? |
| 16:39.48 | khertan__ | camera :) |
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| 16:40.05 | khertan__ | rigo, didn't know any |
| 16:40.16 | khertan__ | rigo, anyway there is a qrcode scanner |
| 16:40.30 | khertan__ | everybody use qr on businesscard |
| 16:46.07 | valdur55 | Wow.. i got now malf screen :P cool |
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| 16:50.49 | rigo | khertan__: thanks, I have the qrcode scanner, but I have tons of business cards and saw apps for android and ios that just scan+OCR business cards for contacts. Very impressive |
| 16:50.56 | thedead1440 | valdur55: so reflash? :p |
| 16:51.15 | rigo | thedead1440, no, brick! :) |
| 16:51.36 | deram_ | rigo: seen those even for symbian... not for N9 though |
| 16:51.54 | rigo | ha! |
| 16:52.16 | thedead1440 | n9's almost unbrickable unless you did something like Jonni a few days ago |
| 16:52.40 | rigo | bricked it by trying to export the Xwindow to PC |
| 16:53.45 | valdur55 | going back to ubiboot :) |
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| 16:58.45 | valdur55 | wow: / # /sbin/initctl emit --no-wait MALF_CHECK_OK |
| 16:58.45 | valdur55 | initctl: Unable to connect to Upstart: Failed to connect to socket /com/ubuntu/upstart: Connection refused |
| 16:59.33 | thedead1440 | valdur55: you shouldn't have rebooted before re-signing refhashlist |
| 17:00.11 | valdur55 | thedead1440: yay. i thinked same . |
| 17:00.14 | thedead1440 | ~# accli -c tcb-sign -F /var/lib/aegis/refhashlist -i /var/lib/aegis/refhashlist && ~# /usr/sbin/validator-init; aegis-loader;echo 1 > /sys/kernel/security/validator/flush in an opensh shell. Jonni's instructions always help :) |
| 17:01.18 | valdur55 | oh. opensh shell |
| 17:02.01 | thedead1440 | yup because you don't get tcb privs regularly even in open mode :) only opensh/ariadnesh give you the privs required to do so |
| 17:02.13 | thedead1440 | that's why i didn't reboot until doing the above |
| 17:02.39 | valdur55 | :) ok. but what about my apt-get failure ? |
| 17:02.53 | thedead1440 | that would have been solved by doing the above |
| 17:02.59 | thedead1440 | it was simply refhashlist issue |
| 17:03.09 | thedead1440 | it needed resigning |
| 17:03.32 | valdur55 | Still :accli.cpp(1449): ERROR: cannot sign '/var/lib/aegis/refhashlist' (Permission denied)' |
| 17:03.54 | thedead1440 | did you put those above in an opensh shell? |
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| 17:04.41 | valdur55 | Yep |
| 17:05.13 | thedead1440 | do accli -I | grep tcb to see if it has the tcb::sign privs |
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| 17:05.57 | valdur55 | bad chroot :/ accli.cpp(1370): ERROR: could not read credentials, quit |
| 17:06.32 | thedead1440 | ah that i'm not sure on how to solve :/ ; my paste when i realized my apt-get being screwed: http://pastebin.com/w25eYhYL |
| 17:10.54 | valdur55 | Good. looked arch wiki and used correct mounts :) |
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| 17:16.55 | valdur55 | aegis-loader: File '/var/lib/aegis/restok/restok.conf' fails 'tcb' signature |
| 17:16.55 | valdur55 | aegis-loader: Rejecting untrusted configuration -- policy not loaded |
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| 17:22.22 | valdur55 | Better error: http://pastebin.com/afBTM2Qi |
| 17:23.02 | thedead1440 | that error is when not in opensh |
| 17:23.28 | valdur55 | Nope. I am on opensh |
| 17:23.36 | valdur55 | s/on/in/ |
| 17:24.35 | thedead1440 | weird maybe your reboot caused some issues? |
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| 17:35.22 | valdur55 | Ok... I give up ... i use Nokia Software Updater ... i need boot to Windows :( |
| 17:35.32 | valdur55 | I don't flash it. |
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| 17:37.48 | thedead1440 | isn't that the same as flashing it? |
| 17:38.19 | valdur55 | Nope. Software updater can keep programs installed. |
| 17:39.00 | thedead1440 | oh ok |
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| 18:05.49 | valdur55 | Omg.. useless tool.. It requires working phone... |
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| 18:22.03 | valdur55 | Oh. Maybe i know .... I reinstalled some aegis packages and i had sdk repo activated. so it installed sdk repo aegis .... ( apt misconfiguration) |
| 18:35.48 | valdur55 | OK. going to reflash ... |
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| 18:46.25 | valdur55 | Difference between openmode and closed mode kernel flashing is: [x] cert-sw [finished 100 % 1 / 1 kB NA ] |
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| 18:50.31 | valdur55 | Oh funny. I already messed my just flashed phone :) |
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| 19:07.16 | valdur55 | Yeay. Nicely done... again at same point! (y) |
| 19:15.19 | valdur55 | Now i am testing restoring :) Interesting toy! |
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| 19:29.00 | valdur55 | Damn... Restoring is like a widnows using :( |
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