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06:07.13coderusaway for shopping
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10:24.57RzRhttp://www.amazon.com/1550mAh-Li-ion-Battery-PureView-Charger/dp/B008WYGMPI/ref=sr_1_fkmr1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1362911042&sr=8-1-fkmr1&keywords=BV-4D+1400mAh
10:26.17valdur55hi
10:27.45RzRi am looking for extra battery for n950
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10:57.45Hurrianwhoopsies.
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11:48.58infobot[aegis-no-thanks] http://maemo.cloud-7.de/HARM/N9/openmode_kernel_PR1.1/, or http://maemo.cloud-7.de/HARM/N9/1.2/openmode-kernel/, or http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1178281#post1178281
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15:42.26coderusA
15:43.30thedead1440B
15:44.15ladogaÖ
15:44.30thedead1440hehe ladoga you were supposed to say C
15:44.48dm8tbrccccombobreaker
15:44.59thedead1440:D
15:46.24ladogaor maybe Γ
15:46.33thedead1440lol
15:46.47ladogawhy did romans change it to C anyway?
15:47.03thedead1440we should send the romans a query
15:51.17ladogaah..C _is_ gamma. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G#History
15:51.48ladogaG was added later
15:53.29thedead1440ah
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15:54.31valdur55Ä :)
15:54.58ladogaÅ
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15:56.58ladogabtw. why doesn't nokia maps update to latest map versions?
15:57.05thedead1440ladoga: it does
15:57.08ladogai know you can do this manually
15:57.09ladogaoh
15:57.14thedead1440maybe delete all your maps and do it
15:57.23thedead1440or maybe one or more countries are on latest version
15:57.49ladogaso deleting and redownloading should do the trick?
15:58.02thedead1440mine all came up for update but when connection was lost after a few were updated no updates for the rest; only a deletion and re-add helped
15:58.05thedead1440yup
15:58.09valdur55Omg.. I have problem with commercial app downloading. "There was a problem downloading this item. Try again" ... omg
15:58.34thedead1440valdur55: try again; network issues or mp-harmattan conflicting?
15:59.39TimoHi there guys :)
15:59.57Kozzivaldur55: this is whay I always use Catch Apps when I download/buy something from the store
16:00.01Kozzi*why
16:00.24thedead1440shucks you don't need to use CatchApps when you can set it to auto-store a .deb
16:01.43TimoI flashed some time ago to the Open Mode Kernel, but now my N9 forgets some settings (like switching off network positioning) and my changes to the VKB dictionary. I think I did something wrong... Oh, and it also doesn't show my calendar entries anymore, the known workaround doesn't work for me... Does anyone know what I'm doing wrong and even better how I can solve it? :)
16:02.20thedead1440changes in vkb dictionary get forgotten at reboot in pr1.3 unfortunately
16:03.23TimoOkay. Well, it isn't a really big deal, since it knows most of the words. Oh, I forgot to mention that the browser clears my cookies and passwords anytime I reboot as well
16:04.10valdur55Timo: you should remove aegis protected folders and then reboot.
16:04.36TimoOkay, which folders are we talking about?
16:04.57Kozzisoft reset could help, I had trouble with Web not showing History entries dated before reboot, soft reset solved this
16:05.01thedead1440Timo: check whether you followed these steps for open mode: http://raspi.dy.fi/ladoga/harmattan/docs/openmode.txt
16:05.07thedead1440and thank ladoga for the .txt
16:05.23TimoThanks ladoga for the .txt ;-)
16:05.37ladoganp, made for myself
16:05.47ladogaas i tend to forget things
16:06.14Kozziq: how I use MaskedItem in qml, what do I have to import?
16:06.31Kozziplaying around with 4chan api :P
16:07.46Kozziwould be nice to have item thumbnail like in filebox, image with round mask
16:07.51TimoJust out of curiousity, shouldn't cp /etc/ssl/certs /root/certs.bak have to be cp -r?
16:08.26TimoAnd rm /etc/..... rm -rf?
16:08.43Timothedead1440: ping :)
16:08.59thedead1440yup I use -R and -rf
16:09.11TimoOkay, tnx :)
16:11.46ladogacp -r, yes
16:12.11ladogai'll fix that
16:12.41TimoAnd just mv /root/certs.bak? I don't have to remove/clear the /etc/ssl/certs directory first?
16:13.12ladogai only deleted files inside /etc/aegisfs.d/, but you can probably get rid of the whole directory
16:13.32thedead1440Timo: nope as it would be removed with the aegisfs mounts
16:14.08TimoOkay, I'll move the contents :)
16:15.35TimoHmm, strange: mv /root/certs.bak/*.* /etc/ssl/certs, and I get the following output:
16:16.02valdur55ladoga: better way to stop aegisfs loading: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1327048#post1327048
16:16.12Timomv: Can't rename '/root/certs.bak/*.*': No such file or directory...
16:16.51TimoOh, wait, there's another directory in certs.bak
16:17.47valdur55Timo: you don't need use /*.* for dir rename. just do : mv foo bar
16:18.05ladogayes my error
16:18.15ladogadid that post install from memory
16:18.40ladogajust move the contents of /root/certs.bak/ to /etc/ssl/certs
16:18.57ladogaprobably mv /root/certs.bak/* /etc/ssl/certs
16:19.00ladogaworks
16:19.09TimoYes, I tried that, now I get a permission denied, while I actually am root...
16:20.14TimoOkay, copying did the trick
16:20.48TimoAnd after copying rm -rf certs.bak, of course ;)
16:20.49ladogaso cp -r root/certs.bak/ /etc/ssl/certs ?
16:21.10TimoYeah
16:21.15ladoga/root/certs.bak *
16:21.19ladogayes
16:21.31TimoOh, but I get a permission denied when I try to remove /root/certs.bak
16:22.12TimoPretty strange...
16:22.56TimoWell, I'll reboot anyway, I think it is safe, I just checked if the contents were in /etc/ssl/certs, and they were...
16:24.07Timoladoga: But I don't know if it's a good idea to put the certs.bak into /root. Maybe it's safer to put it in /home/user...
16:24.41ladogait's just temporary
16:25.11TimoYes, I understand that, but when I try to delete it, I get Permission Denied, while I am root...
16:25.24ladogayou delete it anyway after reboot and copying it back to /etc/ssl/certs
16:25.43coderus> 22:00 < thedead1440> shucks you don't need to use CatchApps when you can set it to auto-store a .deb
16:25.48coderuswhat? how?
16:26.14ladogaTimo: i don't remember getting any permission errors
16:27.13thedead1440coderus: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=87057
16:27.17Timoladoga: but I do :P
16:28.14ladogaeverything inside /etc/ssl/certs is owned by root
16:28.28ladogadid you try to delete it before rebooting?
16:28.37TimoNope, after rebooting
16:29.48ladogado you have files there owned by something else than root?
16:29.53coderusi still need help with ubiboot: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1328027&postcount=95
16:33.49valdur55coderus: "Phone still powering off after nokia logo." << do you get bootmenu ?
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16:36.07coderusvaldur55: no
16:36.39valdur55coderus: Erasing 128 Kibyte @ 5a80000 -- 18 % complete flash_erase: Skipping bad block at 05aa0000 << wow
16:36.56coderusjuiceme said its ok =D
16:38.01Timoladoga: What's the command for that? :P
16:38.05valdur55ok. maybe  you should fistly copy tar to /mnt and then untar it.
16:38.07thedead1440valdur55: that's perfectly fine
16:38.19ladogals -lar /etc/ssl/certs/ | grep user
16:38.30Timotnx
16:38.31coderusvaldur55: what the difference?
16:38.37valdur55Maybe  there is symblink issues ...
16:38.39ladogashould show anything user owned
16:39.23ladogaor maybe just ls -lar /root/certs.bak
16:39.30TimoNope, nothing which user owns...
16:39.35ladogaand see what it might fail to delete
16:40.17TimoNothing in certs.bak either...
16:40.20ladogawould be strange that root cant delete root owned file
16:40.26coderusvaldur55: i'm sure all symlinks okay :)
16:40.28TimoYes, it is
16:40.57ladogaprobably develsh doesn't make a difference?
16:41.14thedead1440Timo: are you really in open mode? Which kernel did you use?
16:41.46Timothedead1440: accli -I tells me I'm in open mode
16:42.10TimoI used the same one as in ladoga's tutorial
16:42.22coderusI THINK PROBLEM WITH EXTENDED PARTITION IN UBIBOOT. WILL CHECK IT NOW.
16:42.26coderussorry for caps :D
16:42.44thedead1440ah yes could be
16:42.45Timocoderus: Well, you made it clear though :P
16:43.30valdur55coderus: maybe just do: dd if=/dev/zero of=/foor/bar
16:44.41ladogahmm
16:45.02coderusvaldur55: instead of flash_erase?
16:45.11TimoHey, but my N9 remembers the settings now :D
16:45.19ladogaaren't only directories inside /etc/ssl/certs ones used by aegis mounts
16:45.36ladogathat's probably why i didn't copy them over
16:45.45ladogawith cp -r
16:45.55Timohmm
16:47.44ladoganext time i'll copy paste those steps exactly as i did it:)
16:47.54ladogainstead of relying on memory:)
16:49.15Timo:)
16:49.57valdur55Timo: did you commented "start aegisfs" line in groups-mce.conf file?
16:50.07TimoNope, not yet
16:50.23TimoDo I have to do that?
16:50.39TimoWell, I guess so, otherwise you wouldn't have mentioned it :P
16:50.48ladogai haven't done it
16:50.58TimoWhere's that file exactly located?
16:51.03ladogabut i guess it wont hurt
16:51.06valdur55Look my post.
16:51.15valdur55DO: ps ax | grep aegisfs
16:51.31valdur55aegisfs daemon is running without config.
16:52.04Timo676 aegisfs /usr/bin/aegisfs
16:52.13Timo3030 root grep aegisfs
16:52.53valdur55ladoga: better way to stop aegisfs loading: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1327048#post1327048
16:53.03valdur55:D Here is this link again
16:53.23coderusremoved my extended partition, still no ubiboot menu =(
16:53.39ladogayes i'll do that...tho i guess i can just kill it instead of rebooting
16:53.48ladogaas it's doinf nothing
16:53.50ladogadoing*
16:54.57TimoGreat, I get a permission denied when I try to write the changes to the file :(
16:55.23valdur55Timo: give command: whoami . Output
16:56.04Timoroot
16:56.33TimoOh wow, now it can't even READ that file -_-
16:57.51thedead1440coderus: ubiboot hates you :p
16:59.03valdur55coderus: make full reflash :P
17:00.40ladogaha..killing aegisfs made my phone to reboot:)
17:00.41Timovaldur55: I can't read that file now...
17:00.59TimoNor as root, nor as user
17:01.07ladogalooks like your openmode isn't working properly
17:01.17TimoI guess...
17:01.21ladogasounds like refhashlist issue
17:01.42ladogaso aegis is still active
17:02.15TimoAnd I guess that'll only be solved by a full reflash? :/
17:03.44TimoOr can it be done by something else?
17:04.53valdur55ladoga: you prevented aegisfs loading.
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17:05.42ladogavaldur55: yes
17:06.04valdur55So. aegis loading is normal. Do : ps ax | grep aegis
17:06.05ladogathough as it had no mounts i thought it would be fine just to kill it
17:06.16ladogaanyway now running without it. thanks
17:06.37valdur55ladoga: maybe aegis is protecting aegisfs :)
17:08.03ladogaps -A | grep aegis , none nada:) just user running ps and grepping for it
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17:12.32valdur55group-system.contains aegis and aegis-session. I malfed my phone when i commented both lines.
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17:13.26valdur55some daemons uses aegis-session :)
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17:20.04valdur55Can i bacup/restore my device rootfs f
17:20.41ladogaseems like removing aegisfs process causes some problems for me
17:21.01ladogagps lock is now very slow and some apps hang
17:21.14ladogaworked just like normal when only mounts were removed
17:21.44ladogaso i'll try to put it back and reboot
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17:35.27coderusvaldur55: nah?
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17:45.37ladogavaldur, sorry i just had gps disabled from settings :)
17:46.27valdur55.. with dd
17:49.56valdur55coderus: ??? :)
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19:31.44ladogadpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of vim:
19:31.44ladoga<PROTECTED>
19:31.46ladoga<PROTECTED>
19:32.17ladogai couldn't find vim-runtime in your repos, maybe I'm just being blind? :)
19:33.17valdur55ladoga: maybe you need enable sdk repo
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19:34.16ladogaharmattan sdk?
19:34.35ladogano vim there
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19:35.04ladogai fethed this one from rzr's repos. it seems to work but misses a dependency
19:35.11ladogafetched*
19:35.32valdur55Are you manually downloading those packages?
19:36.06ladogayes
19:38.32ladogaI haven't enabled any additional repos on my N9
19:43.55valdur55you should enable additional repos: http://www.who.is.free.fr/wiki/doku.php?id=harmattan#
19:44.08valdur55it's pointless to play package manager ;(
19:44.56Jonniand why dont you just use vi instead of vim, or you just prefer vim over vi?
19:45.10ladogasyntax highlighting
19:45.30ladogano other reson really
19:45.38ladogavi is fine
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19:47.33ladogaso yes, i'll just use it instead. I just saw vim in rzr's repo so decided to try
19:47.59valdur55I am nano user and learning vi / vim ....
19:48.47ladogavaldur55: http://ce.uml.edu/vi.htm is a good start
19:49.26valdur55ladoga: i have already finished it...
19:49.43valdur55Olny problem is my mobile keyboard layout.
19:50.08ladogaand remembering the shortcuts, atleast for me
19:50.27ladogafor someone who uses it daily it must be great though
19:50.53valdur55I use dvorak on my mobile :)
19:59.23ladogawell..i think i'll just fetch vim-runtime from debian
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20:01.41ladoganevermind found it :/ stupid me. it was in all (arch independent)
20:04.49valdur55lol!
20:05.37ladogashould just enable the repo
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20:47.26ladogadidn't get vim syntax highlighting to work anyway
20:47.34ladogaback to using vi:)
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21:39.18valdur55lol. i just finished qtypist dvorak first module. Domen
21:39.49valdur55s/Domen/homerow basic skills/
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22:16.48mer45hello
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22:20.39mer45hello
22:20.44bef0rdhello
22:21.21ZogG_laptopbef0rd: hey
22:21.27mer45plz tell me how tojoin other chanal
22:21.49bef0rdZogG_laptop: hello!
22:21.57bef0rdmer45: what irc client are you using?
22:22.13bef0rdmer45: most of them support typing /join #newchannel
22:24.21mer45mobil
22:26.09bef0rdZogG_laptop: how is it going
22:27.11mer45ok. but that channel was empty
22:27.45bef0rdyes I just invented it
22:27.53bef0rdgo to the channel you want to
22:28.11bef0rdthere are thousands of channels here at freenode
22:28.12bef0rduse google
22:31.13mer45tell me one of thes channel wich is mor popular
22:31.35bef0rd17:28 bef0rd: use google
22:32.18ZogG_laptopbef0rd: playing with cocos2dx :)
22:32.24ZogG_laptopcheck images from twitter
22:32.58bef0rdcool
22:33.03bef0rdI want to learn that too
22:33.09ZogG_laptopi did nothing
22:33.25ZogG_laptopjust switched the image from template and changed label of hello world :)
22:35.05bef0rdlol
22:35.09bef0rdforever alone
22:35.20ZogG_laptopbef0rd: do you have jabber?
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