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04:11.25thedead1440coderus: ?
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07:44.48coderusthedead1440: what the purpose of removing aegisfs.d mountpoints in openmode?
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08:17.57valdur55coderus: mountpoints removing is't needed for disabling aegisfs
08:20.03valdur55After aegisfs.d removing are mountpoints like usual folders.
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09:39.18thedead1440i always thought it to prevent any issues with the gps lock when flashing openmode on an unclean system. I've tried just flashing open mode kernel previously on a fresh device and no gps issue too. However since no draw-back has been uncovered i just rather remove the mount-points ;)
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09:54.45Jonniyou always have better working harmattan in openmode if you still use aegis, since some services depends on it.
09:55.18Jonniaegis is your friend, not the enemy :)
09:56.49thedead1440:) but out of curiosity any service depends on the mount-points being there explicitly?
10:04.54Hurrianthedead1440: Nope.
10:05.16HurrianThe difference is that the directories aren't protected by aegisfs anymore.
10:06.36thedead1440you mean the aegisfs.d directories right?
10:06.54HurrianThe $APPNAME/.private directories.
10:07.00Hurrianwell, whatever's owned by aegisfs.
10:07.02thedead1440ah yes
10:07.33Hurrianalso, slightly off-topic, but have you tried Nemo on the N9 yet?
10:07.36thedead1440iirc in normal open mode too they are unprotected right
10:07.48Hurrianthdead1440: you get -EPERM when you try to cd to them.
10:07.50thedead1440Nemo the last time i tried it was i think a year ago
10:08.26HurrianI advise N9 users to try Nemo now - it's pretty complete and just needs a heavy polishing.
10:08.38thedead1440well then i'm going to try it right now
10:08.38HurrianIt might even turn out to be a viable Harmattan alternative.
10:08.48thedead1440https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Installing#Persistent_Single_Boot_by_Flashing_the_Dual_Boot
10:08.57thedead1440is that the right link for the instructions?
10:08.58HurrianYou haven't tried ubiboot yet?
10:09.07thedead1440ubiboot?
10:09.25HurrianYeah, it lets you kexec to different kernels and systems.
10:10.41thedead1440Hurrian: <juiceme> You are now the first ever to run both ubiboot and mtd-swap at the same time :)
10:10.43thedead1440:D
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10:11.06HurrianAh, you're using the mtd5 version.
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10:11.27thedead1440yeah after you told juiceme about it
10:12.04HurrianYou'll have to edit select_os_animated.sh to point to mmcblk0p3 instead of mmcblk0p4 if you haven't repartitioned yet, though.
10:12.20Hurrian(I recommend moving /home to / if you have the space)
10:12.31thedead1440so i'll just re-parition 4gb out of MyDocs for nemo right?
10:12.58Hurrianthedead1440: umount MyDocs and run df -h /home.
10:13.03thedead1440no space for combining it itno one
10:13.07Hurrianah
10:13.11Hurrianwell, 2G is enough.
10:13.23thedead1440<PROTECTED>
10:13.24thedead1440<PROTECTED>
10:13.44thedead1440i have loads of apps on it; at last count it was 146 but that was at last flash
10:13.53thedead1440must be ~160 now
10:15.11Hurriancareful with backing up rootfs and /home, etc.
10:15.23Hurrian…and watch for dotfiles.
10:15.34thedead1440i'll go without a backup; nemo requires 4gb from MyDocs right?
10:15.41thedead1440as ext4 partition or ext3?
10:15.44HurrianNo, 2GB is fine.
10:15.49Hurrianext4 is recommended.
10:16.40thedead1440sorry for not reading but asking instead; the 2GB is required from the start or towards the end of MyDocs?
10:17.20HurrianAnywhere on the disk.
10:17.36HurrianAlthough if you grab that 2GB from the beginning of MyDocs, you'll likely need to repartition ;)
10:18.08HurrianShrinking MyDocs by 2048MB and making a new partition is fine.
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10:34.48thedead1440partitioning done for a 3GB partition: /dev/mmcblk0p4         1661473     1760512     3169280  83 Linux
10:36.01thedead1440images required are from here right: http://releases.nemomobile.org/snapshots/0.20130218.0.1.NEMO.2013-02-15.1/images/nemo-handset-armv7hl-n950/
10:38.03thedead1440Hurrian: if ubiboot is to be used only the kernel is required right? No need for moslo right?
10:38.17HurrianYup, no need for moslo.
10:38.34HurrianThink of ubiboot as a shinier, usable moslo for the N9.
10:39.38thedead1440hehe for the kernel its this one: http://repo.pub.meego.com/home:/marquiz:/n950/CE_Adaptation_N950_Mer_Core-next-armv7hl/armv7hl/kernel-moslo-n9-2.6.32.20112201-26.2.Nemo.Adaptation.N950.N9.armv7hl.rpm  ?
10:40.01HurrianA free kernel is included in /boot with every download of a Nemo Mobile root file system.
10:40.23thedead1440oh so just the image is required nothing else
10:40.28Hurrianthedead1440: I doubt the autobuilder catches new packages every rebuild, so try to run "zipper ref && zypper up" after booting.
10:44.17thedead1440untarring the image currently on device
10:56.50thedead1440and I'm in Nemo :D
10:57.02thedead1440thanks for your help Hurrian :)
10:59.12thedead1440portrait task manager seems to have a bug right?
10:59.57valdur55Nemo is newer than Harmattan ?
11:00.43thedead1440valdur55: its a WIP; latest image is from 15/02/2013
11:01.01valdur55What is WIP ?
11:01.12thedead1440work-in-progress :)
11:01.28valdur55Ouch ...'
11:04.38thedead1440:D
11:05.18Hurrianthedead1440: Update, and you get a meegotouchhome similar to Harmattan's.
11:06.31thedead1440Hurrian: ok will do now; SSH has to be manually enabled?
11:06.40HurrianI think it does.
11:10.17thedead1440258 updates :D
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11:38.00thedead1440Hurrian: updates done and true meegotouch is back :D Why am I not surprised to see Vesuri's name in Credits :D
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15:45.15coderusjuiceme: i'm getting color noise on screen when booting to ubiboot mtd5 now :)
15:45.26coderusjuiceme: and then phone shutting down
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