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04:59.49loinhello, does anyone know if its possible to change the statusbar?
05:00.05loini'm interested in adding a 1 pixel line at the top
05:02.31loinlike here http://i.imm.io/124v7.jpeg
05:08.12bef0rdmaybe
05:08.22bef0rdi've seen some themes that changes the background image
05:10.28loinwell, the background isn't all that hard to modify
05:10.52loinhaving a bar that dynamically changes based on system parameters requires a bit more coding and access to systemui
05:10.53loini think
05:10.56loinat least on android
05:11.16bef0rdI thought you only wanted the 1 pixel line at the top
05:11.22bef0rd:P
05:11.47loinwell i did, but i want to have it functioning
05:11.53lointo indicate my battery percentage
05:12.12loinits one of those things that once used, you can't live without
05:12.25loinso much more convinient than having an icon
05:14.11bef0rdI think it can be done, it probably requires work, systemui is available afaik (toggles from MohammadAG uses a modified version)
05:15.32loindoes mohammad ag ever visit this chat room?
05:15.46loinMohammadAG, ping (if you're on)
05:15.55bef0rdhe lives here
05:17.02lointhats always good to hear :)
05:17.23bef0rdbut its probably better to ask in the thread of Mt-toggles, he can probably point you in the right direction
05:18.11loinwell, i don't really want the toggles and all that so it might be a little off topic
05:19.18loini found a git repository by MohammadAG this could be it
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05:20.34bef0rdI think there is an option to show the battery status as number instead of using just the icon, not sure if its on MohammadAG systemui or coderus
05:21.22loini did find a "Added battery percentage on statusbar " commit in this repository
05:24.52lointhanks :)
05:27.07bef0rdnp
05:44.48michael_BehmanThanks bef0rd for the link you've pointed me to earlier, but I couldn't find any Meego images there, just Maemo. Any ideas?
05:50.14bef0rdoh :/
05:50.22bef0rdi thought thedead1440 had a backup there too
05:50.48bef0rddid you check the forums michael_Behman?
05:50.59thedead1440bef0rd: skeiron has a backup but its not accessible since http://mrcrab.net/nokia.html is still online
05:51.23loinhey michael_Behman, did you restore your n9?
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05:57.54michael_Behmanbef0rd, I googled and all the links pointed to dead links.
05:58.43michael_Behmanloin, not yet, navifirm didn't finish downloading the image to I'm trying to resume on my own.
06:00.39bef0rdwhat firmware are you looking for michael_Behman
06:01.55michael_Behmanbef0rd, DFL61_HARMATTAN_40.2012.13-7.MEA_EMMC_MEA.bin to be specific.
06:02.43loinmichael_Behman, i did it successully last night
06:02.58loinmichael_Behman, tho the first time i did it it had a sim lock (?)
06:03.51loinmichael_Behman, "Replace operating system" unbricked it, but it sim didn't work, at least i got to save my contacts
06:04.10loinmichael_Behman, "Comprehensive reset" made my sim work again
06:04.11bef0rdhttp://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/p/d/fds_fire/1207/0310/7076658064/528DA068_DFL61_HARMATTAN_40.2012.13-7.MEA_EMMC_MEA.bin
06:04.20bef0rdthat one seems to work for me
06:05.17bef0rdif you are upgrading to the latest 1.3 firmware, you already read about using the global variant, right?
06:05.53loinme?
06:06.03bef0rdah didn't see thedead1440's answer :)
06:06.12bef0rdloin: well everyone that upgrades
06:06.30loinbef0rd, i didnt use the global variant i think
06:06.44michael_BehmanI'm not upgrading but no, so I might want to read.
06:06.51loini used the code from the sim tray to find the version
06:07.10michael_Behmanloin, congratulations, good thing that it is working, mine is still bugging me.
06:08.04bef0rdhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=85584
06:08.14loinwell you did say that the files didnt download yet
06:08.27bef0rdmichael_Behman: did the link I gave you work?
06:10.01loinbef0rd, im not sure but i think i have the 006 version
06:10.22loinbef0rd, how can i tell?
06:10.54Jonni"flasher -i" tells current version if I remember right
06:11.04michael_Behmanbef0rd, Yeah, thanks a lot.
06:11.16bef0rdthere is one of thos *# code that shows it too
06:12.38loinbef0rd, DFL61_HARMATTAN_40.2012.21-3_PR_006 is that pr the thing?
06:12.52bef0rdthats PR_006
06:13.05loindoes that mean its branded or anything?
06:13.31bef0rdthe "issue" afaik is that you won't be able to apply a firmware different to PR_006 on your phone unless nokia releases a new one
06:13.45loini dont think i could have before, could i?
06:13.53bef0rdyes
06:14.21bef0rdnot sure what is PR_006, read the thread about firmware flashing
06:14.41bef0rdhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=82693
06:14.48bef0rd006 - Middle East
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06:15.07loinwell, in my defense the guide did say Select the appropriate product code in the Variants list. In most cases, you should use the product code printed on the SIM tray
06:16.07bef0rdbef0rd
06:16.08bef0rdhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=82693
06:16.08bef0rdbef0rd
06:16.09bef0rd006 - Middle East
06:16.13bef0rddidn't see you leaving
06:16.39loini accidently closed the wrong window
06:16.41bef0rdyea, well it's not a big deal unless you want to hae the Global variant in your phone
06:16.59loinwhat's so special about the global variant?
06:18.23bef0rdI don't know, I know that some variants like china or Telmex (mexico) version didn't have twitter or skype preinstalled (can't remember)
06:18.56lointhat would actually help me since i bricked my phone trying to remove those
06:19.22bef0rdbut as I said, if you have no issues with 006 then you dont need to use the global one
06:19.34bef0rd:P
06:20.06loini really love the look and feel of this phone
06:21.31michael_Behmanloin, it is in deed a really good phone but the fact that the operating system got abandoned that easily is really silly.
06:21.57loinmichael_Behman, they had good reasons to abandon it
06:22.15loini can't say i wouldn't love a quad core with this os on it :)
06:26.42michael_Behmanloin, well, I was convinced by there "good reasons". But anyway, this is not the place for such a conversation. The important thing is that it is still a good phone.
06:26.50michael_Behmanloin, well, I wasn't convinced by there "good reasons". But anyway, this is not the place for such a conversation. The important thing is that it is still a good phone.
06:40.01loini'm lovin' it (no copyright infringement intended0
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12:11.27liriondoes anyone tried to get prelink working on the n9?
12:18.05Hurrianlirion, memory for ld is not a massive problem though
12:18.48Hurrianit may also interfere with booster which preloads known used libraries and binaries
12:23.54lirionSo it's not a good idea? I think prelink were a good thing to reduce total used memory
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12:30.34Hurrianfree memory is wasted memory bro.
12:38.27lirionok you're right :/
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15:28.59sasukehi all, i recently purchased nokia lumia 920. I am facing problem with voice cmds & also when messaging its not showing mic symbol . Is there any solution for this
15:29.17radiofreeis this some kind of sick joke?
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15:29.53sasukeradiofree, are you asking me
15:30.00radiofreeyes
15:30.45sasukeno. my english is very bad. you may find lots of mistakes
15:30.48radiofreetry some windows phone channel, not #harmattan
15:30.50juergbihttp://owindowsphone.pl/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/gbraad-20111205T045443-g6xmqqv.png
15:31.09radiofree:)
15:31.24sasukeok
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15:59.48loinradiofree, hello
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17:08.05loindid anyone successfully uninstall facebook >
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17:22.54coderusloin: sure, tons of times
17:23.27loincoderus, how did you do that?
17:23.53coderusfixed dpkg status and just removed
17:24.21loinfixed dpkg status?
17:24.24coderusaha
17:24.37coderusyou not using n9qt?
17:24.45coderusit have my sctipt inside
17:24.59loini'm not using n9qt
17:26.38coderusbut you can download it and extract script from it :)
17:27.21lointhat's what i was looking for
17:27.53loini can't say i enjoy reflashing the phone so often
17:27.59loinwhen things go bad
17:29.27loin<PROTECTED>
17:29.34loinand the phone completely crashed
17:29.43loini see this is a quite common issue
17:29.59loinbecause along with those apps, it also removes some other meta-packages
17:30.03coderusits easy woth my script
17:30.10coderusjust use it from n9qt
17:30.30loini'm still searching for it
17:31.01michael_BehmanAnyone knows how I can actually remove this "Splash screen" from N9 to get a glimpse of what is really happening in the background?
17:31.44loinmichael_Behman, did you managed to flash the new firmware yet?
17:32.54michael_Behmanloin, reflashing the system doesn't make much of a difference so I'm trying any other fixes before having to reflash the EMMC, because honestly, I don't think it's going to make of a difference too.
17:33.24michael_BehmanI'm just stuck in a silly bootloop and I can't do anything about it.
17:33.37michael_BehmanFrankly, I'm starting to think it's a problem with the hardware.
17:33.52loinmichael_Behman, sounds like it, are you sure you did nothing and it just crashed out of nowhere?
17:35.01michael_Behmanloin, believe me I was using the phone normally, listened to some music, received a phone call, received an SMS, did some shopping and got back home, to find the phone off in my pocket and not working.
17:35.09michael_BehmanYou think it might be something in what I bought?
17:36.18loinwhat did you buy?
17:36.25michael_BehmanBut I have to say that it wasn't giving any sign of life at first, but then it booted once after several trials to turn it on, but then everything was messed up. So stupidly enough I rebooted the phone and it never worked again.
17:36.41michael_Behmanloin, mainly food and stuff you know?
17:36.46michael_BehmanIt was a joke :D
17:37.17loindid you install any third party software on it ever?
17:37.47michael_BehmanI don't think so.
17:37.59loinhow long have you had the phone for?
17:38.17michael_BehmanI just reflashed a couple of months ago, and since then, I didn't want to install much crap on it.
17:38.37michael_BehmanA year and a half, but as I said I just reflashed not so long ago.
17:38.54michael_Behmandon't worry, it shouldn't happen to your phone in a year and a half :D
17:39.11loin:D
17:39.43loini'm pretty sure it will because i have a habit of hacking everything i see
17:39.53loinevery device i buy gets bricked in less than 24 hours :D
17:40.07michael_BehmanI can see :D
17:40.08loinsoft bricked most of the times
17:40.22michael_BehmanWell, be sure to always backup your stuff then.
17:40.44loini have three hard drives
17:40.46loinso i'm safe
17:40.47lointhe only thing that was truly unrecoverable was when i burnt my new laptop's motherboard :D
17:41.14michael_BehmanYeah, try not to burn your hard drives then :D
17:42.13loini'm pretty sure your issue is not hardware related
17:42.40loini'd flash the emmc too, since that fixed my problem
17:43.09loinas i previously mentioned, just flashing the main thing fixed the bootloop but it locked my sim card
17:43.16loinafter the emmc it was fully functional
17:43.24michael_BehmanSo far I don't have any other solutions but I'm still looking.
17:43.53loincoderus, were you talking about "Remove/Restore not necessary icons" from n9qt?
17:43.58michael_BehmanA lot of people were stuck in a bootloop and got it to work without reflashing, although their solutions are not working with me.
17:44.13loinmichael_Behman, android has a nice "adb" program
17:44.17loinyou just plug the phone in usb
17:44.19loinadb logcat
17:44.30loinand you catch all the output of the phone
17:44.34loinmaybe n9 has something similar
17:46.50michael_BehmanSeems like it doesn't. That would have been helpful though.
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17:49.18michael_BehmanBy the way, what's the use of the other files present in Navifirm for N9? All instructions mention the use of 2 bin files only.
17:51.07loini didnt use them
17:51.20loinmaybe checksums and other key things
17:52.16michael_BehmanThere's a dozen of extra files. Weird!
17:53.27loinwell two files are called simlock
17:53.29loinyou don't want those
17:53.38lointhen there are signiture files
17:53.57loini wouldn't worry about it
17:54.25michael_BehmanYeah, it's exactly those simlock files that fot me thinking.
17:56.11loindid you try to install the same version that was previously on your phone? aka the one in your sim tray
17:56.17loinor did you maybe try another version?
17:58.26michael_BehmanI probably can't install the original any more because last time I flashed, I flashed the latest global version, if I recall correctly.
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18:04.45michael_BehmanI think I'll just go nutts and try to install Nemo.
18:04.56michael_BehmanI've got nothing to lose anymore anyway.
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18:11.07loini'd still try installing the original
18:11.11loinbefore giving up
18:11.52michael_BehmanThat' not even working.
18:12.18loindid you try?
18:12.33michael_BehmanIt failed to partition but I thought no problem, at least they're telling me to telnet into the device. But even telnet is not working :D
18:12.34michael_BehmanYeah.
18:13.17lointhat doesn't sound very fun...
18:13.47michael_BehmanIt's either laugh or cry. I choose to laugh.
18:14.32loinmaybe you could try nitdroid
18:14.45loinfrom what i've heard, it kind of does something to the bootloader
18:14.48loinwhich is reversible
18:15.16loinso the sequence of events would be install nitdroid-> boot into meego -> if it works remove nitdroid => have working meego environment again
18:15.18michael_BehmanMust have access to the device's storage.
18:15.43loin:(
18:16.22dm8tbrmichael_Behman: moslo?
18:16.32michael_BehmanYeah.
18:16.41michael_Behmandm8tbr, any ideas?
18:16.50dm8tbrmichael_Behman: make sure that you have the right kernel module loaded
18:17.05dm8tbrand you might need to configure your network interface manually
18:17.25michael_BehmanYeah, I was investigating the latter.
18:17.34michael_BehmanBut no one mentioned anything about any kernel modules.
18:17.57dm8tbrtry 'ifconfig -a' and check for something like usb0
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18:19.22michael_BehmanFound it but still no luck.
18:19.42michael_Behmandm8tbr, up'ed it and set an IP manually.
18:22.31michael_Behmandm8tbr, should I be doing something with the routing table?
18:22.51dm8tbrnot unless your networks clash
18:23.27michael_BehmanI don't like this: "192.168.2.0     *               255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 wlan0"
18:23.41michael_BehmanWhy is redirecting this wlan0
18:23.54michael_BehmanThere's also a similar line after right for usb0
18:24.25dm8tbris your wifi in the same range?
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18:25.19michael_BehmanGood point. I didn't think of that. I'm used to it being: 192.168.1.1
18:26.10michael_BehmanWhich means yeah it is.
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18:26.59dm8tbrif so, then this is actually a problem
18:27.47dm8tbrI'm not 100% sure, but you might get around this with a host route
18:28.13michael_BehmanOr I can just change the wifi's range.
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18:29.59michael_BehmanI lost access to my router.
18:30.15michael_BehmanStill don't find it funny loin? :D
18:30.42michael_BehmanI have no access to the router nor the internet but I'm still on IRC.
18:30.57loininteresting...
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18:43.44loindownloads.meego.nokia.com is down
18:44.01loinis it usually down?
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18:47.46Jonnithat domain has never been up :)
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18:50.34loinwhat's it doing in the sources list then?
18:50.41loinoh well
18:51.12loini love the fact that in the about me session it says 'you can request source code on this website'
18:51.14loinwhich doesn't exist
18:51.27loinit goes on to say 'you can e-mail us to ask us for the source code'
18:52.06loinif you email them, you get an automatic response "Please note that only written requests are accepted. We do not reply to requests by e-mail."
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19:57.26michael_BehmanSo anyone knows where the contacts and the messages are stored on N9?
20:04.07michael_BehmanAny ideas?
20:13.46specialmichael_Behman: tracker.
20:16.22michael_Behmanspecial, and where is that?
20:17.41michael_Behmanspecial, /usr/share/tracker?
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20:25.41michael_Behmanspecial, I understand that I should be using tracker-control ( with -b option to backup ) please correct me if I'm wrong. And if so, any ideas how I restore it later?
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20:56.02loinmichael_Behman, after my device froze, i backed up all my contacts to nokia.com
20:56.11loina little late for you now, i'm afraid
20:58.36michael_BehmanI managed to get all my files. But apparently I lost all my contacts and messages.
20:58.49michael_Behmanloin, better than nothing.
20:59.39loinhow did you access the device?
21:00.38michael_BehmanI managed to get telnet to work.
21:00.51michael_BehmanAnd through telnet I enabled FTP, and then copied my files.
21:01.06loinmaybe this way you can nitdroid it
21:01.26michael_BehmanBut the partition that should have my contact and message is totally empty.
21:02.04michael_BehmanMaybe, but what am I going to do with nitdroid when I already got the available files?
21:02.05loinmaybe its just not mounted
21:02.26michael_BehmanNo no, I mounted it. It's totally empty.
21:02.34michael_Behman.           ..          lost+found
21:08.55loinnot good
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21:11.03michael_BehmanIn deed.
21:20.14loindeed?
21:20.35michael_BehmanIn deed = you're right.
21:20.52loinsorry
21:21.01loini misread 'i'm deed'
21:23.28loinso, what now?
21:23.32michael_BehmanNo problem :)
21:24.13michael_BehmanNothing, making a copy of the whole phone's memory to the pc for later analysis and then I'll will try to reflash it all.
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22:05.22michael_Behmanloin, still gave me an error while flashing the MMC. I'm trying again now.
22:05.46loinnot that i would know what the error means, but i'm curious on what it says
22:06.32michael_BehmanActually, the understandable part was an error in mounting the same partition that was found empty.
22:08.26lointempted to say that the storage might have failed
22:08.45loinbut if the lost+found was still there, sounds like its something else
22:08.59michael_BehmanYeah, I was able to mount but nothing was found.
22:09.38michael_BehmanAnyway, I was reflashing on two parts. And someone suggested doing it all at once. So I'm trying that now.
22:10.09loini flashed it on two parts as suggested too
22:10.27loinflasher -f -F main.bin
22:10.27loinflasher -f -F main.bin -F emmc.bin --flash-only=mmc
22:10.29loinlike that
22:11.27michael_BehmanYeah, that what I did first time.
22:11.38michael_BehmanAnyway, it doesn't matter, just showed me the same error.
22:12.30lointry different versions?
22:12.46michael_BehmanI'm already trying with the highest.
22:12.59michael_BehmanAnything else would be considered downgrading.
22:16.34loinnot a different version as in pr1.3 version
22:16.37loinbut a different region version
22:16.48lointhere was a huge list of firmwares for pr1.3
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22:32.10Jonnitwo parts reflashing is just stupid, you you want to reflash your phone you should do all in one command
22:32.40Jonniflasher -f -F main.bin -F emmc.bin -R
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22:40.36michael_BehmanJonni, I agree, but right now I'm just following the instructions I find as they are, as it's not working.
22:40.53Jonniwhats the error message
22:42.01Jonnipastebin the whole output or something...
22:42.16michael_Behmanhttp://pastebin.com/Tn26ynav
22:43.10michael_BehmanI just tried with "--no-preserve" and it gave me the same with an extra " mmc: Could not exec '/sbin/dosfslabel /tmp/sudmmcpb94m2/internal0p1 "Nokia N9"' "
22:43.16michael_BehmanAny ideas?
22:44.15Jonniusually that error just means that your emmc image is corrupted, redownloading emmc.bin might help.
22:46.02Jonnior on worst case it means that flash memory is broken and you need to warranty replace or buy a new one. But I would 1st try redownloading
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22:47.41michael_BehmanOh. I'll check the md5sums again.
22:47.43Jonnias usually that "conted failed to verify" means that crc checksum of the binary does not match the expected value.
22:48.13Jonnicontent even
22:49.27michael_BehmanBut where can I find the md5sum for DFL61_HARMATTAN_40.2012.21-3.280.1_EMMC_280.bin?
22:50.25Jonnimost likely nowhere, thats why maybe redownload and check is checksums will differ
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22:50.49michael_BehmanHmm. OK.
22:50.53michael_BehmanThanks.
22:51.00Jonni(as usually people dont flash variants to their phone, every one just flashes 001 vanilla) :)
22:51.36loinJonni, i flashed the middle east version
22:51.51loini followed the guide which recommended that  
22:52.13Jonniwell some guides are just stupid :)
22:52.38Jonnibut ofcourse some people prefer having more exotic variant
22:53.36JonniI've flashed harmattan more than 500 times, so I've seen my share of exotic combinations :)
22:56.19michael_BehmanSo where can I find a link for DFL61_HARMATTAN_40.2012.21-3.280.1_EMMC_280.bin?
22:56.36Jonninavifirm
22:57.18michael_BehmanThis thing alwasy stops in the middle with me. And it doesn't continue.
22:58.19Jonnitake the link from navifirm and use wget -c
22:58.27Jonnithat way you can always continue on stalled download
22:58.42Jonni-c == --continue
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23:31.54loindid anyone manage to get rid of 'FOSS_notices' ?
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