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17:22.11 | juiceme | Jonni, ping |
17:23.37 | juiceme | was thinking of something... since it's possible to read/write cal using somehing like "dd if=/dev/mtd1 of=somefile" etc.. |
17:24.22 | juiceme | What if I take a snapshot of a closed-mode device without lock code, then set the lock code and take another snapshot. |
17:25.11 | juiceme | Then, I see the diff between the binary files, and edit that difference into a dump taken from the same device when it's in open mode. |
17:25.48 | Jonni | there is no difference :) |
17:26.07 | juiceme | Would I have a lock code then on an open mode device? (even as I could not change it to anything else any more?) |
17:26.40 | Jonni | lock code is not checked against cal |
17:26.41 | juiceme | hmm, no difference between snapshots of CAL with and without lock-code? |
17:26.59 | Jonni | lock code checking is done in secure pa side :) |
17:27.01 | juiceme | but it has to be stored somewhere? |
17:27.48 | Jonni | well yes there is a crypted backup stored in cal, but that is only used for sending lockcode to trusted person through sms |
17:27.50 | juiceme | so you mean it's some kind of write-only memory location? |
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17:28.33 | Jonni | actual lock code checking is done in secure pa side, and that area is not accessible from the kernel nor the userspace |
17:28.36 | juiceme | like, when it's written to some register it goes inside the MCU and not a real memory location? |
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17:29.45 | juiceme | okay, so how is the OK/FAIL result passed back to kernel? |
17:30.05 | Jonni | through libbb5 api calls |
17:31.09 | juiceme | ah now I think I am starting to understand it, is it some kind of device instead of memory location? |
17:31.37 | Jonni | it communicates with trusted side pa, you can read omap arm trustzone, its a seperate kernel running inside secure area |
17:31.43 | juiceme | so basically you set it by some register operation, and verify it the same way |
17:31.55 | Jonni | something like that |
17:32.22 | juiceme | all the time I thought it's really stored in a memory area :) |
17:33.18 | juiceme | something I noticed today when I took snapshots of MTD partitions |
17:34.11 | juiceme | mtd1 to mtd5 are static, but reading mtd0 and mtd6 gives different results on consequtive reads. |
17:35.23 | juiceme | the partition mdt0 is labeled "bootloader" so I would assume it is just that. |
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17:35.43 | juiceme | however, the forst couple of kilos is changing |
17:36.02 | juiceme | s/forst/first/ |
17:37.01 | juiceme | I would assume a bootloader is fairly static piece of code after the device has booted :) |
17:46.29 | juiceme | now this is strange... |
17:47.20 | juiceme | I did the test I described using a device in closed mode, now as I do same with my own (open mode) device I get every time an identical file?? |
17:48.02 | juiceme | Jonni, any explanations for this behaviour? Or did I make some mistake earlier? |
17:51.08 | Jonni | sorry have to pass commenting on that one as bootloader details are kinda nda areas usually. |
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18:27.33 | juiceme | Jonni, okay, sorry I ventured into thin ice :) :) |
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18:37.13 | RzR | hi |
18:37.24 | valdur55 | RzR: hi! |
18:37.25 | RzR | any owncloud users ? |
18:37.52 | valdur55 | not me :P |
18:38.14 | RzR | http://forum.owncloud.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=9187 |
18:41.57 | RzR | FYI . i am backuping shared repo |
18:42.08 | RzR | if you want me to backup other repos just tell me which ones |
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