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| 11:00.56 | phako_ | Kozzi: I'm slightly lost with your LG issue |
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| 11:08.00 | Kozzi | oh np, anything I can help with ? |
| 11:08.45 | phako | is the tv complaining about the unsupported video format? |
| 11:08.50 | phako | or the device? |
| 11:09.10 | Kozzi | device, if I remember correctly |
| 11:09.20 | phako | hm |
| 11:09.21 | phako | ok |
| 11:09.26 | Kozzi | when I try to push a recorded video from device to tv using filebox |
| 11:11.18 | phako | I tried that with the caps from the TV you sent me and it doesn't happen :-/ |
| 11:12.40 | Kozzi | oh, I'm at school now so won't be able to test it. Will try againlater today, LG has been pushed a fw update recently, perhaps it works now :| |
| 11:12.54 | Kozzi | -been |
| 11:19.14 | phako | sure, np |
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| 17:57.37 | juiceme | can somebody tell me what's the big deal with Phoenix flasher? |
| 17:58.18 | juiceme | as far as I see it's just some cracked version of a windows flasher, so why people would want to use it instead of the proper flasher? |
| 17:59.21 | juiceme | there is no operation that can be done with Phoenix vs. regular flasher, right? |
| 18:01.11 | juiceme | the phoenix-flashing people have hijacked the "Comprehensive Firmware Flashing Guide for N9" thread on TMO :( |
| 18:01.13 | Jonni | juiceme: there are some tricks that can be done, but you need phoenix + some special hardware for it :), cracked version doesnt do much more |
| 18:01.43 | juiceme | yes, and the R&D certificates, right? |
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| 18:02.26 | Jonni | you can flash r&d certs with normal flasher too :) |
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| 18:02.47 | juiceme | and I suppose by "special hardware" you mean JTAG interface? |
| 18:05.04 | Jonni | juiceme: http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSnDUSMFF0W_1B2hTuQ5FL7w6Rn4VxCXSLn-ekSgi7kHjKfpLbK |
| 18:05.19 | Jonni | thats fps-21 flasher box that you use with phoenix |
| 18:06.03 | Jonni | it has interfaces for secure magic card, fbus etc |
| 18:07.31 | Jonni | service cable slots etc |
| 18:09.17 | juiceme | :) |
| 18:11.20 | juiceme | but sill it bugs me that people will try in vain to flash wrong images with phoenix, and they do not belive when told that it makes no difference whatsoever... |
| 18:11.53 | juiceme | they think it's some magic solution, somehow better than the command line flasher |
| 18:12.10 | Jonni | yeah it makes no difference at all |
| 18:31.35 | thedead1440 | juiceme: remember many people using the n9 came from symbian and for symbian phoenix is the go-to tool |
| 18:32.11 | thedead1440 | i myself had a n8 before the n9(00)s so phoneix is pretty known to people vs winflasher especially if they haven't used cmd.exe before ;) |
| 18:33.20 | juiceme | yes, it well might be that. Altough I had sybian phones since the nineties and I never used phoenix myself :) |
| 18:33.30 | thedead1440 | you never flashed? |
| 18:33.37 | juiceme | true. |
| 18:33.59 | juiceme | with symbian, I didi not mod my devices |
| 18:34.06 | thedead1440 | but for s^3 phones custom roms made them bearable and to flash phoenix was the way to go |
| 18:34.38 | juiceme | I never knew even, that there exists custom roms for symbian, |
| 18:34.44 | thedead1440 | they call it cracked version because afaik phoenix is internal sw only and cracked is the leaked version that anybody can use |
| 18:34.47 | juiceme | I thought it's so closed source |
| 18:35.04 | thedead1440 | juiceme: http://forum.dailymobile.se/ |
| 18:35.20 | thedead1440 | you never been there? its the nirvana for s^3 phones especially |
| 18:36.04 | juiceme | no, because, well... when I was using symbian, I just took the device as given |
| 18:36.49 | juiceme | I had all the series of communicators, from original 9000 up to e90 and e7 |
| 18:37.13 | thedead1440 | you can give your e7 a new lease of life using those roms if it has no hw issues ;) |
| 18:37.37 | juiceme | Well there were no issues ever with it :) |
| 18:38.11 | juiceme | I only started developing for mobile devices when I got a device that has linux |
| 18:38.16 | thedead1440 | seems like you used it as a feature phone ;) |
| 18:38.49 | juiceme | well, kind of yes, they _are_ (or were) feature phones |
| 18:39.24 | juiceme | or so I thought, anyway |
| 18:39.29 | thedead1440 | if you mean by no linux yes but the e7 was a pretty handy tool just like the n8 |
| 18:40.29 | thedead1440 | i still miss document editing on my n9... something my dad's communicators would do so well... |
| 18:40.34 | juiceme | e7 is wonderfull for it's usage, but that's just it. no console, no scripting, no python, no nothing... |
| 18:41.04 | juiceme | for "business usage" they are wonderful |
| 18:41.18 | thedead1440 | indeed |
| 18:41.27 | thedead1440 | i read they had some python support? |
| 18:41.45 | juiceme | but when you get used to all the linux goodies there's no going back, ever |
| 18:42.17 | juiceme | python on communicator? That would have been nice if I knew that back then |
| 18:42.51 | thedead1440 | true i only miss the document editing part as well as those time-wasting apps that were available on symbian at the same time as other OSes until Elop's memo |
| 18:45.00 | juiceme | I never really cared that much for apps... except for some specifics like joikuspot and sportstracker |
| 18:46.16 | juiceme | So actually I currently have more apps on the app-poor N9 than I had on app-rich symbian :) |
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| 18:47.20 | thedead1440 | yeah its funnily same here; have >160 apps on the n9 but less than 15 3rd-party apps on the n8 |
| 18:48.32 | juiceme | and just about everything I need is already existing for N9, still people are whining that there are not enough apps... |
| 18:49.05 | juiceme | It might be I just do not understand what's good for me :) |
| 18:49.20 | thedead1440 | well everyone has different needs and more the merrier ;) |
| 18:49.20 | deram | 10000 fart apps missing |
| 18:49.49 | thedead1440 | i wouldn't mind a proper convenient document editor for one |
| 18:50.02 | juiceme | my needs are simple, I just need the standard GNU toolchain, on an open platform. |
| 18:51.01 | juiceme | document editor, well yes, that comes handy sometimes |
| 18:51.25 | juiceme | but it's not a decision maker |
| 18:52.03 | juiceme | (hmm, maybe deal-breaker is a better figure of speech...) |
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| 18:53.10 | thedead1440 | indeed; my android devices can do that when i'm pushed but a convenience is always welcomed :D |
| 18:53.14 | juiceme | what _is_ the deal-breaker, is the opennes and extensibility of the device, instead of apps I want a device I can run scripts on |
| 18:54.31 | juiceme | looking forward to the Jolla release :) |
| 19:03.18 | thedead1440 | same here; jolla and that 5" phone :p |
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