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| 04:37.02 | juiceme | HtheB, morning :) |
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| 05:40.13 | Jonni | juiceme: he is alredy offline. Maybe the readme should say more clearly that 01 is the obsoleted way. |
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| 06:25.22 | juiceme | Jonni, yes I realised that. |
| 06:30.16 | juiceme | Jonni, HtheB posted a question at TMO http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1349340&postcount=324 |
| 06:31.06 | juiceme | It seems he managed somehow to get his device in a state that he cannot flash it any longer? |
| 06:31.41 | juiceme | ah, actually I am wrong, he magnaged to boot it agfter all |
| 06:31.56 | juiceme | s/agfter/after/ |
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| 07:38.47 | juiceme | thedead1440_, check up #ubiboot :) |
| 07:39.13 | juiceme | finally done it :) :) |
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| 08:48.52 | HtheB | juiceme: you there? |
| 08:49.08 | mschlens | he was an hour ago |
| 08:50.46 | HtheB | juiceme: I wasn't able to boot my device (even after flashing official kernel, I couldn't boot) but after flashing my device, I could boot up. Somehow I was stuck in a loop |
| 08:50.58 | HtheB | But the readme file of ubiboot is a bit confusing |
| 08:51.53 | HtheB | (by the way, good morning) |
| 08:55.35 | Jonni | 01 instructions are obsolete, you should use 02 |
| 08:56.57 | HtheB | yeah, I try to use that |
| 08:57.05 | HtheB | but since it's 'mixed' together |
| 08:57.16 | HtheB | its a bit hard to understand what is for 01 and what is for 02 |
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| 08:58.04 | HtheB | i've come to the screen where ubiboot shows up with the OS's |
| 08:58.30 | HtheB | but, ofcourse.. since i didn't put any modules somewhere... im stuck again haha |
| 08:58.31 | Jonni | you just skip all the 2.* steps |
| 08:58.38 | HtheB | thats the part that i didnt understand |
| 09:00.14 | Jonni | you just drop thefiles in mydocs/boot dir and your all set, or what part was confusing? |
| 09:00.23 | HtheB | 3. |
| 09:00.56 | HtheB | let me telnet to my phone (hopefully) |
| 09:01.10 | HtheB | argh |
| 09:01.22 | HtheB | stupid windows xp can't install the drivers for telnet |
| 09:01.30 | Jonni | well dafault values in configs are pretty good so you dont need to edit the files much. |
| 09:01.43 | HtheB | Jonni: well how come I can't boot my device :D |
| 09:02.26 | Jonni | maybe you didnt copy the the kernel in harmattanrootfs/boot directory? |
| 09:02.41 | HtheB | thats the part that I missed |
| 09:03.56 | HtheB | flashed back original kernel to copy the kernel in /boot/ |
| 09:04.32 | HtheB | lets see what it does now :) |
| 09:05.29 | Jonni | basicly if you do triple boot setup, you have boot dir on harmattan rootfs where the harmattan and android kernels are, you have boot dir in mydocs where the configs are, and you have boot dir in p4 partition where nemo kernel is. |
| 09:05.30 | HtheB | lol... /boot is empty?! |
| 09:05.59 | Jonni | if you forget to copy kernel there, then that would explain why it doesnt bootup :) |
| 09:06.15 | HtheB | oh |
| 09:06.19 | HtheB | kinda weird |
| 09:06.35 | HtheB | because what I understand from the readme was to create a boot directory within MyDocs |
| 09:06.58 | Jonni | yes configs go into boot directory in MyDocs |
| 09:07.24 | HtheB | so I copy the zImages to /boot? |
| 09:07.47 | Jonni | depends where does your /boot point to? |
| 09:07.55 | HtheB | oke |
| 09:07.56 | HtheB | what about the cpio? |
| 09:08.01 | Jonni | its not the /boot of the telnet interface :) |
| 09:08.12 | Jonni | cpio goes into MyDocs/boot/ |
| 09:09.06 | Jonni | or cpio is actuallly in dev/mmcblk0p1/boot if that makes it any clearer |
| 09:09.08 | HtheB | oke, let me check the conf file |
| 09:09.33 | HtheB | ah, default is /boot/Harmattan/boot/ |
| 09:10.24 | Jonni | kernel goes into /dev/mmcblk0p2 devices boot dir, which is that /boot/Harmattan/boot/ config line |
| 09:11.30 | HtheB | yes, works! :) |
| 09:11.33 | Jonni | so basicly you dont edit the configs, but you just put the kernel files in right places |
| 09:11.39 | HtheB | by the way, do you know what the 'fix12' kernel does? |
| 09:13.39 | HtheB | aargh |
| 09:13.46 | HtheB | some how, just before booting into Harmattan |
| 09:13.58 | HtheB | it returns back to the os select screen >.< |
| 09:14.39 | Jonni | so how many partitions your device has, have you setup nemo partition? |
| 09:14.52 | HtheB | no |
| 09:14.55 | Jonni | and where have you copied the kernel? |
| 09:15.16 | HtheB | to /boot/Harmattan/boot/ |
| 09:15.36 | HtheB | copied the zImage_2.6.32.54-openmode_l2fix |
| 09:15.37 | Jonni | in that environment, ubiboots telnet interface? |
| 09:16.00 | HtheB | if I boot the phone while usb plugged in, i can telnet I suppose (needs drivers though) |
| 09:16.09 | HtheB | anyway, flashed original kernel once again |
| 09:16.26 | Jonni | that sounds like a wrong directory, or does df show that dir mounted? |
| 09:16.26 | HtheB | lets see what I did wrong |
| 09:16.43 | HtheB | (booting phone) |
| 09:17.19 | HtheB | on the conf file |
| 09:17.20 | HtheB | G_HARMATTAN_5_LABEL="Openmode + L2fix" G_HARMATTAN_5_FILE="/boot/Harmattan/boot/zImage_2.6.32.54-openmode_l2fix" |
| 09:17.28 | HtheB | seems like the file is in the correct place |
| 09:17.45 | HtheB | i should say that, does that kernel works for n950? |
| 09:18.07 | rigo | Hi Jonni, while you're here. How secure is it to put sailfish on an N9? Will it be bricked? |
| 09:18.40 | Jonni | HtheB: and you do understand that config file path is different from actual path? |
| 09:19.00 | HtheB | ?? |
| 09:19.16 | HtheB | the ubiboot.conf is located at /home/user/MyDocs/boot/ |
| 09:19.44 | Jonni | HtheB: yes |
| 09:20.07 | Jonni | but the harmattan partition is not mounted in telnet interface |
| 09:20.30 | HtheB | hmm... even after flashing orininal kernel, the phone will boot into telnet now.... |
| 09:20.52 | Jonni | so you dont copy anything to /boot/Harmattan/boot/ , you copy the kernel to harmmattan rootfs partitions boot directory |
| 09:21.00 | Jonni | or was that already so? |
| 09:21.21 | HtheB | well, i copied zImage_2.6.32.54-openmode_l2fix into /boot/Harmattan/boot/ |
| 09:21.34 | HtheB | (how can I get rid of the telnet now?) |
| 09:21.47 | Jonni | that thats is a wrong path |
| 09:22.14 | HtheB | when I boot the phone, it says "Boot menu script not fond! please run a maintanance boot |
| 09:22.26 | Jonni | or did you mount the dirs on linux, and copied it to rootfs/boot? |
| 09:22.46 | HtheB | i copied them within terminal |
| 09:22.49 | HtheB | (on device it self) |
| 09:23.06 | Jonni | and did you mount the harmattan rootfs partition first? |
| 09:23.45 | HtheB | i didnt mount anything |
| 09:23.45 | Jonni | like "mkdir /foo; mount /dev/mmcblk0p2 /foo; mkdir /foo/boot; copy zImage /foo/boot/;" |
| 09:24.01 | Jonni | thats the only way to get the zimage to /boot/Harmattan/boot dir |
| 09:24.20 | HtheB | oke... so what next :D |
| 09:24.33 | HtheB | what should I do to at least get rid of the error message so I can boot the phone |
| 09:24.37 | Jonni | or do it easier, refhash to harmattan |
| 09:24.51 | HtheB | again? =( |
| 09:24.52 | rigo | :) |
| 09:24.57 | Jonni | create the /boot dir in harmattan and copy zImage there, and then copy configs to mydocs/boot |
| 09:25.04 | Jonni | and after that flash ubiboot kernel |
| 09:25.20 | HtheB | Jonni: but thats what I did... |
| 09:25.40 | HtheB | feels really n00b now |
| 09:26.09 | Jonni | so you did "mkdir /boot; mkdir /home/user/MyDocs/boot" as they are 2 different dirs? |
| 09:26.10 | rigo | except that you forgot to put the kernel there. And Jonni tells you that it only works if you either copy it there or reflash it there |
| 09:26.17 | Jonni | 1st one is for kernels and second one for cpio |
| 09:26.20 | HtheB | Jonni: yes, exactly |
| 09:27.10 | Jonni | if you forgot to put kernel in there, then only telnel terminal cannot be used to recover, you need to mount the partitions to copy the files |
| 09:27.28 | Jonni | or reflash and follow the instructions again |
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| 09:27.47 | HtheB | flashing phone again to its original state now |
| 09:27.49 | HtheB | with mmc |
| 09:27.51 | HtheB | to be sure |
| 09:28.37 | Jonni | and #ubiboot channel might be more helpfull too, as ubiboot users idle there |
| 09:29.31 | Jonni | l2fix enables L2 cache on hw, since by default kexec doesnt do it, so kernel boots faster than without the fix |
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| 09:30.02 | HtheB | thnx for the channel, didnt know :) |
| 09:30.19 | HtheB | do you know by any chance if the kernel (l2fix) works on n950? |
| 09:30.29 | HtheB | since.. well... n950 and n9 kernel can differ |
| 09:30.49 | Jonni | kernels are 100% the same, there is no difference |
| 09:31.07 | HtheB | thnx! :) |
| 09:32.14 | Jeffrey04 | erm... can anyone help me with this? http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90336 |
| 09:32.29 | Jeffrey04 | my phone claims that the inbox is full whenever message is sent to my number |
| 09:32.41 | Jeffrey04 | but after dismissing the message, the text message will be received after a minute or two |
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| 12:57.39 | Wnt | anyone know where to get mosh for harmattan? Tried following these instructions: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=83570 but it seems that http://repo.pub.meego.com is down |
| 13:05.03 | coderus | http://skeiron.org/repo/repo.pub.meego.com/ |
| 13:06.55 | Wnt | so it's down for good? |
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| 13:07.54 | mschlens | Wnt: since 05/29 |
| 13:09.57 | Jonni | yep, intel decided year ago that everything releated to meego.com does down 05/2013. |
| 13:10.13 | Wnt | ok, good to know |
| 13:10.28 | Jonni | Im |
| 13:10.59 | Jonni | I'm a bit supriced that www.meego.com is still up, but I guess that domain disapears at some point too. |
| 13:11.48 | Wnt | coderus: Thanks for the link! itsnotabigtruck's repo was not available from there, but rzr's repo also has a package for mosh |
| 13:12.42 | Jonni | and you can always compile deb for yourself since sources are public :) |
| 13:13.39 | Wnt | sure, but I don't currently have a SDK environment set up for the N9 |
| 13:14.47 | Oni^ | can someone compile this to N9 http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/gnugo/gnugo-3.8.tar.gz |
| 13:18.08 | Wnt | Have you guys tried mosh? It makes using Irssi much nicer over mobile internet connections |
| 13:19.06 | Wnt | and it's also nice that you can switch between wlan and mobile internet connections without having to reattach to screen |
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| 13:22.26 | Jonni | Wnt: yes I've tried most + irssi, but I nowadays have switched to quassel-core + quassel-client combination, no need for reattaching and can be connected from 10 different machines to same irc session without need to detach the other sessions. |
| 13:22.39 | Jonni | but yes, its handy that most doesnt freeze on ip change |
| 13:23.39 | SpeedEvil | Quassel is nive. |
| 13:23.47 | SpeedEvil | I just wish it did plaintext logs |
| 13:25.48 | Wnt | Jonni: ok, i'll definatelly test that too! |
| 13:29.15 | Jonni | hmm that reminds me that maybe I should test if Quasseldroid would work in sailfish |
| 13:37.00 | Wnt | Jonni: Do you guys at Jolla already use Jolla devices as a main phone? |
| 13:37.17 | Jonni | sorry, cannot comment on that. |
| 13:37.20 | mschlens | :-D |
| 13:37.58 | Wnt | ok, no problem |
| 13:38.32 | Wnt | I should have posted that question to the DNA Jolla hangout but I missed that |
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| 14:34.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | SpeedEvil: (quassel sqlite) should be damn easy to patch. aiui it's doing that db nonsense *only* to have no wasted 0.5 last blocks on "small" files |
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| 14:37.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | while probably ignoring the overhead in storage usage that _every_ dbms brings, which I'd almost like to take bets outweighs any block/sector alignment overheads of a normal fs. And then there's still reiserfs and other byte-addr fs, and of course plain long bibary file with byte pointers into it |
| 14:37.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | binary even |
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| 14:40.01 | SpeedEvil | quite |
| 14:40.20 | SpeedEvil | oooh |
| 14:40.44 | SpeedEvil | ponders measuring differential power use on sds. |
| 14:40.59 | SpeedEvil | it should be quite easy to track a rewrite |
| 14:41.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | but honestly, as long as that's on server side I couldn't care less about it, since the I hardly can figure it will go beyond a "waste" factor of *2 |
| 14:41.19 | SpeedEvil | depends if the server is on flash. |
| 14:41.29 | SpeedEvil | mine is on a micrpsd on pi |
| 14:41.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | ooh |
| 14:42.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | let's start quassel-grew-a-brain ;-) |
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| 18:27.22 | thedead1440 | hi Jonni could you help this poster? Is it hardware failure or software issues? |
| 18:28.01 | Jonni | what poster? |
| 18:28.11 | thedead1440 | http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1349577&postcount=83 |
| 18:28.18 | thedead1440 | oops forgot the link :D |
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| 19:36.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | thedead1440: will lusers ever learn that flashing N9 isn't as easy-peasy as they might think? |
| 19:37.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | Jonni: time for somebody to disclose how to flash 1.0 to recover from swiss version no-downgrade-lockedin-syndrome |
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| 19:49.29 | Jonni | thedead1440: thats hardware error, that phone will be brick for ever |
| 19:50.42 | HtheB | Jonni: can I ask you something? |
| 19:51.32 | Jonni | HtheB: sure |
| 19:51.42 | HtheB | check ur mail :D |
| 19:52.13 | HtheB | (that didn't sound like a question though) |
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| 20:00.40 | Jonni | dont see any mail :) |
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| 20:06.27 | HtheB | lol what? |
| 20:06.36 | HtheB | check ur query then over here |
| 20:07.33 | joecool | is there any way to workaround bug over bluetooth with SIP calling |
| 20:07.59 | joecool | phone tries to do sound cancellation on the handsfree in my car, turns volume down to zero on the speakers within a second or two |
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