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05:13.28teleshoesanyone know where the harmattan network manager gui lives?
05:20.49teleshoesconndlgs
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11:39.37Win7MacVenemo_, any progress on IRC chatter?
11:39.53Venemo_Win7Mac: in what regard?
11:42.52Win7Macso that it works with a bouncer
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11:48.05Morpog_Venemo_, or desktop UI? :D
11:48.27Venemo_well
11:48.35Venemo_haven't had much time, but making some progress
11:48.50Venemo_current focus is on a new, Qt5 based UI
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11:49.04Morpog_sailfish or nemo?
11:49.06Venemo_and upgrading to a new version of communi (the irc library being used)
11:49.33Venemo_Win7Mac: the bouncer problem will be eventually solved, yes
11:49.42Win7Macwe talked about it here: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2013-07-07.log.html#t2013-07-07T17:19:12
11:49.45Venemo_but I have not decided if I want to still support harmattan or not
11:49.46Morpog_most annoying thing is the missing stop autoscroll feature
11:49.52Venemo_Win7Mac: yes, I remember
11:50.16Win7Macand I posted here: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1358960#post1358960
11:50.33Venemo_Win7Mac: it's on my list, but as I said, I don't know if I want to update the harmattan version or not
11:51.01Win7Machm...
11:51.13Venemo_I _could_
11:51.25Venemo_just don't have too much free time
11:51.55Win7Macput it to store for some bucks
11:52.19Venemo_nah, I don't think this would make me any money, and I'm not doing it for the money
11:54.07Venemo_anyway
11:54.20Venemo_when the fix is done, I don't think it will be hard to add to the harmattan UI
11:54.37Venemo_but the thing is, harmattan is broken in so many ways
11:55.13Venemo_for example, I had a feature where it popped up the "connect to internet" dialog
11:55.35Venemo_using QNetworkSession API
11:55.44Venemo_but then I discovered that - for reasons unknown - it made it impossible to work on some 3G networks
11:55.51Venemo_the socket simply didn't connect...
11:55.58Venemo_so then I had to remove that feature
11:56.41Win7Machm, ask other devs?
11:56.53Venemo_this news is about a year old, or older
11:56.58Venemo_nobody knew the answer
11:58.11Win7Macanyway, new harmattan version would be highly appreciated
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12:08.04RzR<Venemo_> Win7Mac: it's on my list, but as I said, I don't know if I want to update the harmattan version or not
12:08.11RzRthe user base is on harmattan
12:08.16RzRnever forget this :)
12:08.26Venemo_heh, okay
12:08.30Venemo_you convinced me
12:08.34RzR:)
12:08.41Win7Mac:)
12:08.50RzRi wish we could make run harmattan on other system too
12:09.00RzRin chrooted env
12:09.05RzRor somewhere else
12:09.59Win7MacJolla Phone should run harmattan, no?
12:10.10Morpog_N9nope
12:10.14Morpog_N9no x
12:10.38RzRthis is the problem
12:10.46RzRbecause i think this is doable
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12:11.46RzRalthrough jolla's SF will use wayland , so 50% will be useless
12:12.23Morpog_N9well xwayland could help someday
12:12.31RzRsomeday
12:12.42RzRwe're not that hurry after all
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12:27.31Win7Macregarding LED notifications - any hint for this situation?: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1368334#post1368334
12:29.06Win7Mac>aegis-apt-get --reinstall duicontrolpanel-ledapplet<?
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14:07.53Venemo_RzR: Morpog_, Win7Mac: sailfish will be backwards compatible with harmattan apps
14:10.11RzRincluding nokia ones ?
14:10.14RzRi doubt
14:11.49bef0rdthey will probably need recompiling, so, I'd say, no
14:12.52RzRyes
14:13.19RzRnokia maps would me the feat i will miss most
14:15.24bef0rda chroot approach could work with the closed source apps
14:15.38Venemo_heh
14:15.40Venemo_why care
14:15.48Venemo_they probably already have a better mapping app
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14:44.19Morpog_Venemo_, how that? judging from nemo, you have to do a bit of porting to het qt-components-qt5 ready in your apps
14:44.58Morpog_Venemo_, have you missed the change from x to wayland and Qt4 to Qt5?
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15:01.24Venemo_Morpog_: no
15:01.32Venemo_Morpog_: I'm just saying what they said
15:10.50Venemo_Morpog_: anyway, I don't really think it's an issue
15:11.04Venemo_good afternoon everyone! :)
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18:55.14ZogG_laptopthp: ping
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19:03.01RzRhttp://www.who.is.free.fr/wiki/doku.php?id=lesson
19:09.39mschlensThank god it's caturday.
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19:34.17DocScrutinizer05it's a pity how Nokia killed maemo, meego and harmattan, simply by doing wrong design decisions
19:35.09DocScrutinizer05and to me it seems jolla is killing sailfish now the same way
19:36.52ZogG_laptopDocScrutinizer05: i'm more worried about software/distro parts
19:37.19ZogG_laptopi don't like Wayland hype and systemd + zypper things :(
19:39.01DocScrutinizer05btw a friend of mine got a Lumia800 from me recently. She's not at all happy with the capacitive touchscreen and says she'd prefer a hw kbd like my N900 has. She never before used a smartphone and probably when she goes shopping a new phone, she would try to get a Nokia3310
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20:15.42ZogG_laptopDocScrutinizer05: i wonder why there no resistence mltitouch screens :(
20:16.07ZogG_laptopthere is thechnology but not a mobiles with it
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21:17.58DocScrutinizer05too expensive
21:18.21DocScrutinizer05and not as scratchproof as those monkeyglass c-ts
21:19.18DocScrutinizer05http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bv3X5y-ajtc
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