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05:48.10mf2hdmeh, my N9 camera stopped workin a month ago, shortly after that mail & calendar stopped syncing, new phone numbers clears out in some point (boot or some other...) as do new text messages...
05:48.26mf2hd...so.... any ideas any1?
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06:04.06mschlensmf2hd: have you tried reflashing?
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06:04.36mf2hdyeah
06:04.38mf2hdjust monday
06:04.40mf2hdno beef
06:04.41mf2hd:/
06:04.48mschlensUgh
06:05.22mf2hdfortunately warranty is still valid
06:05.53mschlensYeah, the question is whether you'll get an N9 as replacement and not a, say, Lumia.
06:06.05mf2hdbut still i would prefer fixing this myself, because maintenance rollout takes ~3 weeks and yes: "take lumia"
06:06.13mf2hd:(
06:06.17mschlens:-/
06:07.14mf2hdmy wild guess would be that userdata filesystem is corrupted, but i haven't checked that yet
06:10.42mschlensSo you haven't tried flashing the eMMC yet?
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06:15.42mf2hdnope, good point...
06:15.58mf2hdmaybe i'll do it right now today...
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06:43.33thedead1440mf2hd: to be completely clear use --erase-user-data=secure flag too while flashing to make sure no remnants are left behind...
06:43.54mf2hdk. ty. now backuping userdata :)
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16:13.39mf2hdreflashmin mmc helped, jei
16:13.47mf2hdreflashing*
16:14.07mf2hdbut where extra repos today? iirc nokia pulled the switch...
16:25.57mf2hdnvm, found it
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16:28.24mf2hdmeh, still no bash or curl....
16:31.19mf2hdfound bash, but no curl
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17:50.40Kozzihello
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18:02.44mf2hdhow can newly reflashed n9's "space is full, free some space and try again" when i try to import carddav from owncloud instance where i made just one testcontact? :)
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18:06.14Kozziperhaps you didn't include the emmc into flashing ?
18:07.19mf2hdyes i did this time
18:07.36mf2hdand everything that was broken started to work, including camera
18:08.13mf2hdand i was able to add caldav, mfe, facebook, personal mail, but not carddav from personal server
18:10.29Kozziheh, well add one by one ;)
18:10.37mf2hd?
18:11.49Kozziyour contacts
18:11.52Kozzijust jk
18:11.56mf2hdehm :P
18:12.30mf2hdpoint is to take civil contacts from employers exchange to personal caldav...
18:12.45mf2hd...and it would be nice that it would sync it self :)
18:13.23Kozzibtw does the code in pr1.3 version matter ?
18:13.44mf2hdmatter in/to what?
18:13.54KozziI'm about to flash the N9 myself and couldn't find one specified for Finland 64GB Black
18:13.58Kozzifrom here
18:14.01Kozzihttp://www.mrcrab.net/nokia/Nokia_N9.html?productType=RM-696&releaseID=7048842309&version=40.2012.21.3
18:14.45mf2hdhmmh?
18:14.46Kozzithinking of going with North Europe Black 64gb one
18:14.54mf2hduse this: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=82693
18:15.14mf2hdnavifirm does the job
18:15.45mf2hddownloading etc i mean
18:15.55KozziI thought navifirm doesnt work anymore
18:16.01mf2hdand there's no finnish version, it's just north europe
18:16.18mf2hdolder version did, which i had installed on my laptop already
18:16.44mf2hdhmmh, wait i'll check
18:16.52mf2hd(at least it did the job for me today :D)
18:19.01mf2hd059J187?
18:19.32Kozzi059J6K9
18:20.54mf2hdnavifirm 1.7+ doesn't recognize that
18:21.30Kozzinavifirm 1.7+ I have doesn't even connect to the server :|
18:21.43mf2hdoh, mine did the job just fine :o
18:22.24RzRhttp://rzr.online.fr/q/n950club# Wondering who bought #N950 for #2025USD , what are his plans ? pls join #MeeGo #HarmattanDev #Mer community
18:23.40Kozzi2025$ ...
18:23.53mf2hdwell, widh you luck, i have to take the dog out now :)
18:23.58mf2hdbut one thing
18:24.11mf2hdis there any other working repos than default and openrepo anymore?
18:24.14Kozziyeah flashing with an old image I have in backup folder
18:24.32KozziI guess no, even qt5 one is down
18:25.05mf2hdi'm missing libssl, curl and some python packages
18:25.43mf2hdcan't get meeprey to work without them
18:25.50mf2hdbut anyway, the dog
18:25.51mf2hd<=
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18:35.37Kozziand it's alive again
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18:46.37Kozzithanks god, all contacts, notes and messages are still there
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18:56.52Kozziwow the phone is so smooth now :D
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19:27.42juicemeSpeedEvil, yes, am looking at the N9 GPS.
19:29.03juicemeSpeedEvil, altough I'd say most today's GPS enabled phones use the same protocol and same architecture, where the GPS receiver and signal processing is on the chip and the positioning logic runs on the device CPU.
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19:30.57juicemeteleshoes, it is pretty easy to replace Joikuspot now
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19:33.33juicemeteleshoes, the needed kernel modules (as in NAT-related modules) have been compiled by jackbutron. You also need wireless-tools and wpa-supplicant just as you assumed.
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19:34.38juicemeAs it is, Joikuspot is just a hack to get around the fact that for some reason Nokia decided to ship the default Harmattan kernel without NAT/forwarding support :(
19:35.30juicemeIn reality the same functionality can be acieved with just standard tools and a bit of blue script...
19:35.41juicemes/blue/glue/
19:35.56SpeedEviljuiceme: calling them 'the same' is misleading.
19:36.10SpeedEviljuiceme: yes, the GPS signal format is the same.
19:36.47SpeedEviljuiceme: however - the way the GPS chip is configured to get that signal into a form where the main CPU can look at it can vary widely.
19:37.13SpeedEviljuiceme: From chips that just digitise the whole GPS bandwidth and give you an 18mbps bitstream, on.
19:37.47SpeedEvilit's like saying 'all ethernet cards use the same protocol and architecture'
19:37.56SpeedEvil(but less accurate)
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20:01.10juicemeSpeedEvil, well yes of course you are right there :)
20:02.25juicemebyt what I meant actually, is that nobody these days uses the "traditional" way of doing it, that the chip itself talks NMEA tu the host processor :)
20:03.37juicemeand I kind of doubt there exist any chipsets that feed you the raw baseband data... at least have not come acreoss any?
20:08.27SpeedEvilThere are - in most cases they're not used for stuff like phones, as the GPS tends to be integrated into a bluetooth/wifi/gps chip nowadays
20:08.57SpeedEvilBut they are a very cheap option - all you need is a sync serial port, that can do DMA, and you can do GPS on quite a modest processor withthem
20:10.09juicemeit's kind of same thing as the cheap DVB-T adapters that have no PID filtering, but instead feed the whole MUX down to the host CPU
20:10.53juicemebut with DVB that's actually a good thing, and the host usually has plenty of oomph to process the incoming feed
20:12.01juicemewith GPS it's a bit different thing, as host CPU's tend to be low-voltage low-spec parts. (or at least they SHOULD be as I love my battery so much...)
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