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| 22:00.42 | ZogG_lap1op | GeneralAntilles: slowly slowly but going forward |
| 22:00.45 | ZogG_lap1op | :) |
| 22:01.42 | GeneralAntilles | ZogG_lap1op, learning much? |
| 22:04.29 | ZogG_lap1op | GeneralAntilles: currently i can list ll available devices and refresh them ( sowatch uses name to chech if it's metawatch so woul i) |
| 22:04.45 | ZogG_lap1op | i scan - keep them in model and return it to qml |
| 22:04.55 | ZogG_lap1op | as well added context menu to connect |
| 22:04.59 | ZogG_lap1op | and i can pair |
| 22:05.08 | ZogG_lap1op | it's mostly half pair |
| 22:05.47 | ZogG_lap1op | as it asks for code on phone and after input it would show on watch thats's it pairing but i need to exchange data with it |
| 22:05.54 | GeneralAntilles | How infeasible is it to use sowatch's rendering on BlackBerry? |
| 22:06.09 | ZogG_lap1op | didn't check it actually |
| 22:06.14 | ZogG_lap1op | sowatch is too complicated |
| 22:06.17 | GeneralAntilles | Hehe |
| 22:06.23 | GeneralAntilles | That was my opinion after looking at the code |
| 22:06.24 | ZogG_lap1op | it's separeted in libs |
| 22:06.28 | GeneralAntilles | But I'm a noob. |
| 22:06.39 | GeneralAntilles | Maybe bug javispedro for assistance if you need it. |
| 22:06.40 | ZogG_lap1op | and it's supports few watches |
| 22:06.45 | Win7Mac | Hi GA! |
| 22:06.50 | GeneralAntilles | Hi, Win7Mac. |
| 22:06.51 | Win7Mac | http://doodle.com/6ibrme7bcd2mu434bbkrpbas/admin?#cmt1296982158 |
| 22:06.58 | Win7Mac | please check in! |
| 22:07.00 | ZogG_lap1op | i do understand parts of it i need |
| 22:07.08 | Win7Mac | missed my mail? |
| 22:07.13 | Win7Mac | sorry for OT |
| 22:07.45 | ZogG_lap1op | GeneralAntilles: i bet my arch and logic wouldn't be the best as my practice is oob and developing is not that rich :) but we learn for that, don't we |
| 22:08.12 | ZogG_lap1op | hope for next weekend to be able to connect and send something to watch and back from watch :) |
| 22:10.54 | bef0rd | hi |
| 22:11.43 | GeneralAntilles | Win7Mac, done. |
| 22:11.55 | GeneralAntilles | Win7Mac, I think I saw it when I was at work, and forgot to follow up when I got home. |
| 22:12.12 | GeneralAntilles | ZogG_lap1op, nice resume fodder all around. |
| 22:12.26 | GeneralAntilles | ZogG_lap1op, THANK YOU for working on this. I have neither the time nor skillset for it. |
| 22:13.25 | Win7Mac | GA, thanks could you remind chemist + Jaffa please, I might miss the right tone ;) |
| 22:14.24 | GeneralAntilles | Hehe |
| 22:14.30 | GeneralAntilles | I'll poke them if I see them |
| 22:14.32 | ZogG_lap1op | Win7Mac: no one takes GeneralAntilles seriously nowdays. Not anymore, not without his bear |
| 22:14.39 | GeneralAntilles | Haha |
| 22:14.47 | GeneralAntilles | I, uh, miss the authority it lent me. |
| 22:14.50 | ZogG_lap1op | bef0rd: here |
| 22:15.01 | GeneralAntilles | But old ladies don't look at me like a criminal so much anymore. |
| 22:15.13 | ZogG_lap1op | GeneralAntilles: i shave once few months and cut hair once a year |
| 22:15.14 | Win7Mac | haha... |
| 22:15.21 | ZogG_lap1op | people don't recognize me everytime |
| 22:15.35 | ZogG_lap1op | i look 12 withut bear |
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| 22:16.19 | GeneralAntilles | There's something to be said for being about to look between teens and late 20s depending on hairstyle. |
| 22:16.42 | ZogG_lap1op | :( |
| 22:16.58 | ZogG_lap1op | btw what are the thought on jolla and android |
| 22:17.07 | ZogG_lap1op | i don't get why people are so happy about it |
| 22:17.20 | GeneralAntilles | Ambivalent |
| 22:17.32 | GeneralAntilles | It's nice to have as a user, painful as a free software person |
| 22:17.42 | ZogG_lap1op | it's like to tell "we open own car factory, but we'll sell other's cars, not most official but 3rd party copy-cats" |
| 22:18.39 | GeneralAntilles | It's a nice feature on BB10 |
| 22:18.45 | GeneralAntilles | At least we can get apps |
| 22:18.51 | ZogG_lap1op | how can i contact Futurama creators, i want to ask them to create give me my money back meme so i can use it ! |
| 22:18.55 | bef0rd | I have mixed feelings about it on BB10, as a developer, why should I do something in cascades/qt if there is an android port that kinda works |
| 22:19.04 | bef0rd | but as user it's nice to have it |
| 22:19.11 | ZogG_lap1op | not nice as user |
| 22:19.17 | ZogG_lap1op | skype sucks, waze sucks |
| 22:19.52 | ZogG_lap1op | it's laggy, looks not native ( i even would prefer web frameworks app that would act native over c++ android one :( |
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| 22:20.10 | GeneralAntilles | bef0rd, because it's much less sucky that way. |
| 22:20.51 | ZogG_lap1op | and by telling - you 'll get those apps we can't give you from android - is like to tell you - you need android to get those app, so why would i buy jolla? |
| 22:21.26 | GeneralAntilles | BB10 hasn't been killed by Android player |
| 22:21.38 | GeneralAntilles | I mean, even MLB (baseball) shipped a native application. |
| 22:22.00 | ZogG_lap1op | and again NO OFFICAL PLAY STORE, but 3rd party chinese store with you know what context |
| 22:22.10 | ZogG_lap1op | those apps we have in ovi for harmattan |
| 22:22.38 | ZogG_lap1op | those like GPS ITALIA, GPS BERLIN, GPS THAT instead of one google maps app. |
| 22:22.49 | ZogG_lap1op | check for gps on bb10 store |
| 22:23.12 | ZogG_lap1op | one or two native apps and others are shitty clones |
| 22:23.54 | GeneralAntilles | There are a few decent native options. |
| 22:24.01 | GeneralAntilles | You know what I've realized, though. |
| 22:24.14 | GeneralAntilles | Is that the Maemo-type communities have such high quality devs |
| 22:24.20 | GeneralAntilles | that software availability isn't a huge issue |
| 22:24.28 | ZogG_lap1op | GeneralAntilles: it is |
| 22:24.33 | GeneralAntilles | I mean, you miss Kindle/Kobo/Spotify/whatever |
| 22:24.48 | ZogG_lap1op | as Instagram comes not from maemo same as whatsapp |
| 22:24.50 | GeneralAntilles | But for non-proprietary stuff you get much better apps. |
| 22:24.58 | ZogG_lap1op | all this android hype for those apps |
| 22:24.59 | GeneralAntilles | See things like sowatch on Harmattan. |
| 22:25.10 | GeneralAntilles | Gaps will be filled on Jolla that'll never be filled on BB10. |
| 22:25.40 | ZogG_lap1op | GeneralAntilles: exactly that's why i'm telling THERE IS NO point in android, except just money and collect "hype users" instead of those who was loyal |
| 22:25.58 | ZogG_lap1op | GeneralAntilles: don't think so |
| 22:26.15 | GeneralAntilles | Well, hype users still pay bills. :P |
| 22:26.15 | ZogG_lap1op | harmattan has developers and support because of maemo |
| 22:26.23 | ZogG_lap1op | people bought it coz of maemo |
| 22:26.31 | ZogG_lap1op | if it would came without it wouldn't be the same |
| 22:26.35 | ZogG_lap1op | they use it as shield |
| 22:28.02 | ZogG_lap1op | as well as jolla " yes we know as we were part .." both maemo and harmattan had poor support. if not community they would have nothing except idea. though maemo was awesome, but i remember those bugs when devs sent patches and they even didn't bother to apply them |
| 22:28.15 | ZogG_lap1op | so maemo is all about community |
| 22:28.48 | ZogG_lap1op | all those 4/5 steps |
| 22:28.57 | GeneralAntilles | Hehe |
| 22:28.58 | ZogG_lap1op | and than 5/6 |
| 22:29.09 | ZogG_lap1op | they increased on both sides |
| 22:29.15 | ZogG_lap1op | promises and promises only |
| 22:29.36 | GeneralAntilles | Symbian managers undercutting them at every turn. |
| 22:30.58 | ZogG_lap1op | but as you see less people went for meego and less are going for jolla |
| 22:31.06 | ZogG_lap1op | they can't use maemo name forever :) |
| 22:33.47 | GeneralAntilles | Jolla hasn't put much out there that's concrete |
| 22:33.54 | GeneralAntilles | I suspect a lot of people are in a holding pattern. |
| 22:36.49 | tehdely | i'm in the "waiting for them to open up pre-orders again" pattern |
| 22:36.52 | GeneralAntilles | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:36.52 | tehdely | i guess you could call that holding :) |
| 22:36.56 | tehdely | MS<>Nokia sealed the deal for me |
| 22:37.02 | tehdely | i was on the fence about whether to make the leap to a Lumia... |
| 22:37.03 | GeneralAntilles | Oops |
| 22:37.14 | GeneralAntilles | tehdely, missed the first batch? |
| 22:37.24 | GeneralAntilles | Windows Phone seems like a waste of time. |
| 22:37.36 | tehdely | didn't have money when the first batch went live |
| 22:37.44 | tehdely | i'm bummed because i'll never get my special Early Adopter jollla :> |
| 22:37.55 | tehdely | then again my n9 is such a timeless design, ppl still ask me about it all the time |
| 22:38.10 | tehdely | i don't imagine they'll have anything with american LTE bands in it for a while, though |
| 22:38.12 | tehdely | so maybe i shoudl wait longer |
| 22:38.14 | tehdely | it's tough... |
| 22:38.31 | GeneralAntilles | Don't worry, nobody in the US will get a special early adopter one either. |
| 22:38.39 | GeneralAntilles | and I pre-ordered on day one. |
| 22:38.51 | tehdely | right. will americans even be allowed in the next batch? |
| 22:38.59 | tehdely | i have friends in finland who can order for me if necessary :) |
| 22:49.26 | GeneralAntilles | May be allowed in the first batch with direct orders |
| 22:49.27 | GeneralAntilles | Dunno |
| 22:49.35 | GeneralAntilles | One of the big problems with Jolla, lack of concrete info. |
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| 23:06.32 | ZogG_lap1op | GeneralAntilles: what version do you have on BB10? |
| 23:07.02 | ZogG_lap1op | btw my pin is 2abfac5d |
| 23:07.41 | GeneralAntilles | 10.1 something |
| 23:07.48 | GeneralAntilles | Whatever AT&T has managed to push out. |
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