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09:26.22ZogG_laptopbef0rd: \o/
09:26.26ZogG_laptopyears
09:26.35ZogG_laptopyears haven't talk to you :(
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09:28.24mhmedhi
09:31.47ZogG_laptophi mhmed
09:32.58rZrhi ZogG_laptop
09:33.12rZrstill using n9 ?
09:33.28ZogG_laptoprZr: bb10
09:33.30ZogG_laptopyou?
09:33.42rZrI'm on n9 now
09:33.47rZrhad a jolla for a while
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09:33.55rZrbut It's back to finland atm
09:34.06ZogG_laptopi just read your post telling that bb10 is good but jollla is better for you as developer. and i was stalled, as was not sure why
09:34.22rZrno linux kernel ?
09:34.35rZrfor a hacker i would say
09:34.36ZogG_laptopbecause you can develop without sudo and ssh, you know. even port linux apps :P
09:35.00ZogG_laptoprZr: my n9 got laggy and sim slot went off so i switched to bb10
09:35.10ZogG_laptopit was harder to get use, as with n9 it was natural
09:35.17ZogG_laptopbut UX is goood, waiting for 10.3
09:35.28rZryea definitly
09:35.55rZrare there some root exploit for bb10 ?
09:35.56ZogG_laptopwith all systemd and other wars and mess, i'm not sure if i would stay on linux :P
09:36.07ZogG_laptoprZr: not that i know
09:36.17ZogG_laptopi know bb10 should be really secure device
09:36.19rZrshould be but it will break upgrades ?
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09:36.41mhmed_hi
09:36.45ZogG_laptophey again
09:36.54ZogG_laptoprZr: should be what and what upgrade?
09:37.27rZrthere should be some root exploits
09:37.37ZogG_laptoprZr: why do you want a root device? just to feel good about yourself? :P it's pretty stable, good os with Qt
09:37.41rZrand using them will make the device not upgradable anymore
09:38.13rZrI use sudo on most of my computers
09:38.23rZrthere is no reason to forget about this
09:38.42rZrcomputing mean more power :)
09:38.43mhmed_zogG_laptop : hi what is your fever OS
09:39.09mhmed_on mobile
09:40.18ZogG_laptopfever?
09:40.23ZogG_laptopfavorite?
09:40.33rZrZogG_laptop, Can you suggest some place like tmo for bb10 ?
09:41.16mhmedyes my English not so good
09:41.42ZogG_laptoprZr: i would agree that you may need sudo on computer. but mobile serve different purpose. I would prefer mature OS over half backed with root :P
09:41.58mhmedsorry ;-)
09:42.01ZogG_laptoprZr: there is no any place in the world like TMO :(
09:42.12ZogG_laptopmhmed_: it's okay, mine neither.
09:42.34ZogG_laptopmhmed_: i loved mameo5 and N9. now i use bb10
09:43.11rZrsecure for who ?
09:43.39ZogG_laptoprZr: you see i would prefer root on phone and terminal and linux. but if it comes as addition and not as main feature. I mean in other words that some give you linux as mainfeature, but less care about UX, stability, HW, services and so on
09:43.54ZogG_laptoprZr: secure for everyone :P
09:46.30ZogG_laptopi remember in 2009 i wanted to buy android the first device with keyboard, as we had no those devices in Israel. And some of my frineds had n810 (he gave it to me this year btw) and he said they are making n900, that is like n810 but with phone. and than i learned about maemo and TMO. that's how i got n900
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09:49.44acmilanJoleen
09:49.59acmilanbom dia
09:54.28rZrZogG_laptop, do u create apps for bb10 using cascade or plain qt ?
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10:16.33ZogG_laptoprZr: i used cascade, and i barely develop, as i have not much free time, and most free time i prefer to rest :(
10:17.09ZogG_laptopi moved in with my gf and got job as kind of developer, so i'm tired of computers when i get home, and not always have free time in front of computer
10:17.32ZogG_laptopi used cascade in app i published and used cascade in 3-4 apps i did not finish
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