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18:33.18fishbulbhi
18:33.28fishbulbnobody is in #n9
18:33.41fishbulbI need to make this 64gb phone operational
18:34.12fishbulbcan someone give pointers, the repos don't work, I might need to flash it to a newer version of whatever
18:36.34fishbulbit's running pr 1.3
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19:11.21tbr1.3 was the last release IIRC
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19:39.39viljamifishbulb?
19:46.17fishbulbhello
19:46.27fishbulbI installed repomirror 0.6.0
19:46.35fishbulbdeveloper mode won't turn on
19:48.05fishbulbit says installed but the size is 0kb
19:48.12fishbulb"actual n9 repositories"
19:48.26fishbulbI cant' get developer mode to download what it needs, is there something else I have to do?
19:55.21Oni_reboot?
19:56.36fishbulbI'll try that again
19:57.57Sicelono
19:58.31Sicelohe needs to remove the aegis* files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
19:59.17Siceloafter that you will be able to install developer mode without issues
19:59.39Sicelothat's teh part which is not *too* obvious from the repomirror page
20:00.41fishbulbhow?
20:01.05Sicelowhat i did was install the terminal manually from the deb file
20:01.10fishbulbI really just want to use the phone as a phone
20:01.27fishbulbit's functionally useless at the moment
20:01.33fishbulbwhere is a terminal .deb?
20:01.40Siceloto remove the files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ does not need root
20:01.56fishbulbI mount the phone in linux or something
20:01.57Siceloas a phone? doesn't phone not even need developer momde?
20:02.53fishbulbI can't get any applications
20:03.00fishbulbI can't change anything
20:03.23fishbulbhow do I remove those files?
20:03.43Sicelohttps://openrepos.net/content/koenigseggccgt/developer-mode
20:03.59Siceloinstall terminal from the deb files given in that link
20:06.19Siceloyou can install some of the other files too, but terminal > remove those aegis files .. you should then be able to install developer mode properly
20:06.38Siceloin thinking about it further ..
20:06.53fishbulbok this tiny keyboard is difficult
20:06.56Sicelomaybe you only just need "warehouse" and not even developer mode
20:07.27fishbulbwhere is warehouse?
20:07.29Siceloyeah, annoying, haha .. i couldn't bear it .. but then .. the N9 belongs to a special friend, so
20:07.46Sicelolook in openrepos.net ;)
20:08.04Sicelothat's basically the new home of the N9/Harmattan
20:09.24fishbulbthis is for my father
20:09.34Sicelo:)
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20:10.42Siceloi have 2 N900, but will definitely say i love the N9 UX .. wow! and also the construction of the hardware
20:11.11fishbulbyeah this phone feels great, and looks great, but I have a couple of n900's too
20:11.47fishbulb1 working and 1 spare and 1 broken usb
20:12.02Sicelofix the USB one :) worth it
20:12.06fishbulbI'm not going to move to a different phone until n900 is totally extinct
20:12.44fishbulbyup worth it but very annoying taking them apart. it's not important yet
20:13.34fishbulbI can't find warehouse
20:14.37fishbulbwarehouse installer?
20:16.00Sicelohttps://openrepos.net/content/basil/warehouse
20:16.44Siceloanyway, i don't knw N9 very well .. read openrepos, ask here, and make your own decisions
20:20.18fishbulbhow do I even open these things
20:20.26fishbulbI installed it
20:20.31fishbulbI can't find it to open
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20:21.39fishbulbrestart again or something
20:23.26Sicelowhat things? :)
20:24.16Sicelohave you installed the terminal? open the links on N9 browser .. then when you click the deb it will be possible to install by simply clicking it in the list of downloads
20:30.00fishbulbI installed it then it said couldn't refresh parts of cache
20:35.08fishbulbdeveloper mode deb file won't install either
20:36.05Siceloso you have terminal in the application list/menu?
20:37.34fishbulbnope
20:37.40fishbulbwarehouse installer won't work
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20:40.11Siceloopen this from a browser *on the N9* .. https://openrepos.net/sites/default/files/packages/122/meego-terminal_0.2.20m6_armel.deb
20:40.49fishbulbyeah I'm doing that man
20:41.14fishbulbok I used the first link, it' sfetching repositories....
20:41.28fishbulbsame error :(
20:42.51Siceloi am a bit confused -- is a terminal installed on the N9 right now? yes/no
20:42.59fishbulbok finally
20:43.00fishbulbyes
20:43.55Siceloalright. aegis* files removed?
20:44.19fishbulbI'm reading off a very small screen, where are they?
20:44.28viljamifug, my gf says everyday that "why don't you buy a new phone"
20:44.43viljamii love my n9 ;_;
20:45.02Sicelo<PROTECTED>
20:45.16Sicelomove them to /home/user for example
20:45.51fishbulbmove them? why?
20:46.46fishbulbpermission denied
20:46.58fishbulbis there a "stock" root password?
20:47.05Sicelohaha, no permission denied :)
20:47.28Siceloread that error correct .. just said it can't set file ownership properly
20:47.41Sicelotry install developer mode the "normal" way now
20:47.53fishbulbpermission denied
20:48.06fishbulbinstall dev mode in the menu
20:48.08fishbulbtrying that
20:52.00fishbulbit won't.
20:53.41Sicelowhat was your command to remove the aegis.. files?
20:53.46fishbulbrm
20:53.51fishbulbrm aegis*
20:53.58fishbulbpermission denied
20:54.48Sicelodo `ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/` and show us output
20:58.03fishbulbnothing
21:00.25fishbulbok
21:00.40fishbulbaegis.ssu-keyring-001.list
21:00.43fishbulb005
21:00.58fishbulbn9openmirror.list
21:01.07fishbulbopenrepos-basil.list
21:01.11fishbulbosa.list
21:02.28fishbulboops
21:02.41fishbulbn9repomirror.list
21:03.11fishbulbI have perfect eyesight and this writing is small
21:06.10fishbulbhow do I get root?
21:06.17Siceloyou can't (yet)
21:06.57fishbulbI dunno what to do
21:06.58Sicelo`mv /etc/apt/sources.list.d/aegis* /home/user/`
21:10.02fishbulbpermission denied
21:10.14fishbulbfuck.
21:10.37fishbulbcan't preserve ownership of blahblahblah
21:10.42fishbulbpermission denied blahblahblah
21:10.47Siceloi have no idea. that worked just fine on the N9 i worked on .. earlier this week
21:11.02fishbulbwhat other packages
21:11.10fishbulbshould I install
21:11.30fishbulbif I can't get root how the hell do I do this?
21:11.47Siceloperhaps install as many of the packages https://openrepos.net/content/koenigseggccgt/developer-mode as will install .. and retry moving the aegis stuff
21:12.07Siceloas long as it sits there, you can't really update/install anything else
21:13.50fishbulball of them?
21:14.05Sicelonot all will install .. just try as many as you can
21:14.18Jonninono dont do that
21:14.38Jonniall you need is to install repomirror, set clock and time to right time and install developermode through the ui.
21:14.42fishbulbwhich of these do I actually need
21:14.51fishbulbset clock to what?
21:14.55fishbulbI haven't yet
21:15.00Jonniif you install seperate deb files then you dont get the right permissions
21:15.01fishbulbrepomirror is installed
21:15.21Jonni(developer-mode install fails if clock and time is not the current one)
21:15.28Siceloheh
21:15.37fishbulbthe clock and time is the current one
21:15.44fishbulbI don't get it
21:15.53Jonniand date and year needs to be current one too
21:15.54fishbulbit's current for my city and location.
21:15.58fishbulbit is
21:16.18fishbulbfor australia it's all correct
21:17.27fishbulbit won't fetch repositories
21:17.36fishbulbI'm using the Warehouse Installer
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21:17.46Jonniwhat command did you try to fetch repositories?
21:17.56fishbulbthere's a warehouse installer
21:17.58Jonniyou are not able to use warehouse untill developer mode has been installed
21:18.01Jonnias it wont work
21:18.04fishbulbshit
21:18.10fishbulbwhat then?
21:18.23Siceloit won't fetch them because you still have aegis repos. you can try all you can .. you need to remove them
21:18.41Jonnithats why Im asking if you have installed something on top of the repomirror, like terminal?
21:18.56Sicelotbh, i don't understand why n9repomirror isnstall doesn't remove them. fail imo
21:19.00fishbulbterminal yes
21:19.02JonniSicelo: there is no need to remove aegis repos
21:19.27Siceloi had the same problem until i removed them
21:19.31fishbulbI installed terminal so that I could type these commands
21:19.54Jonnifishbulb: ok, terminal should be helpfull, have you tried to install developer-mode through terminal yet
21:20.29Sicelohttps://openrepos.net/comment/8911#comment-8911 .. and that user is *not* me
21:21.21fishbulbdon't know how to install it
21:22.02Siceloyou cannot install it from terminal, trust me :)
21:22.14Siceloanyway ....
21:22.17Siceloheads to bed
21:22.18fishbulbok?
21:22.43Jonnifishbulb: a second I'll tell you terminal commands:
21:22.51fishbulbsweet.
21:22.57JonniI've installed developer mode many times
21:23.28fishbulbI'll wait
21:23.31Jonnifirst try to run "pkgmgr refresh-cache"
21:24.11fishbulbflags:
21:25.15fishbulbsome parts of the cache could not be refreshed
21:27.30fishbulbthis is why "warehouse installer" kept failing
21:28.04JonniI'll login to my n9 to refresh my mind about right commands
21:28.15fishbulbheh thanks
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21:30.06Jonnithat warehouse thing might cause problems, since with only flashed device and n9repomirror, that refresh-cache command says successfull... but lets try something
21:30.17fishbulbHOLY SHIT
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21:30.25fishbulba fukcing garbage truck just crashed outside
21:30.28fishbulbinto another car
21:30.55fishbulbahaha fucking hell
21:30.56fishbulbwit
21:30.56fishbulbwait
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21:31.47Jonni"pkgmgr install -p developer-mode"
21:31.50Jonnitry that
21:33.33fishbulboh man
21:33.37fishbulbone whole side of hte car is wiped out
21:33.45fishbulbnobody is fucked up I don't think
21:33.56fishbulbretards
21:34.29fishbulbsomeone's car is  TOTALLED
21:34.52Jonniif that doesnt work, then you need to uninstall warehouse etc packages to get cleaner sources.list   (or just reflash the device and only install n9repomirror and terminal, and then "pkgmgr refresh-cache; pkgmgr install -p developer-mode")
21:35.55fishbulbok
21:36.01fishbulbcould not resolve host
21:36.10fishbulbetc etc
21:36.22fishbulbwhole screen of could not resolve host
21:36.31fishbulbreset the whole device?
21:36.37Jonnimaybe your internet is not working, or does web browser work in device?
21:37.17fishbulbweb browser works fine
21:37.26fishbulbit' slooking on maemo.nokia.com for some reason
21:37.57Jonnimaybe n9repomirror was installed without the "allow 3rd party setting"?
21:38.53fishbulbI allowed 3rd party apps
21:39.23Jonniwell yes quickest way is to reflash and only install n9repomirror and terminal, as without root its hard to clean sources.list
21:39.56Jonniand only install warehouse etc packages after developer-mode has been successfully installed
21:40.16fishbulbI'll just uninstall all of them
21:40.28fishbulbapart from n9repomirror and the other one
21:41.10Jonnilets hope that it cleans /etc/apt/sources.list.d directory
21:41.18fishbulbI only have meego terminal and... oh shit
21:41.25fishbulbok reset the whole damn thing
21:42.17fishbulbfuck!
21:42.25JonniI only have 3 files in there: osa.list n9repomirror.list aegis.ssu-keyring-001.list, thats why developer-mode install works nicely
21:42.29fishbulball the wallpapers anda other bullshit
21:43.52fishbulbclearing device, it'll take a while
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21:48.23fishbulbshould I do this in sdk mode
21:48.31fishbulbI'm using linux
21:48.50fishbulbI don't want to have to type that shit out again.
21:48.53fishbulbon the phone
21:51.04Jonnisdk mode only appears after installing developer mode
21:51.08Jonnichicken egg
21:52.11fishbulbchickenegg^n
21:53.11fishbulbman can you upload something for me to flash to this phone
21:53.15Jonnibut its only about writing 2 commans in terminal, so shouldnt be that bad :)
21:53.17fishbulbwith the settings and shit
21:53.24fishbulbok I'll go through it again
21:53.46Jonniafter the 2 commands, you should be able to connect ssh from linux and things get easier
21:54.52fishbulbcan you tell me them again, I'm reading from a tiny piece of screen
21:55.20Jonnipkgmgr refresh-cache; pkgmgr install -p developer-mode
21:55.26fishbulbwait a minute terminal is here
21:56.58fishbulbI reset the device and meego terminal is still installed
21:58.12Jonniso whats in /etc/apt/sources.list.d?
21:58.45JonniI said to reflash and not to reset (but if reset clears the dir then I dont mind)
22:00.09fishbulbparts of the cache could not be refreshed
22:00.19fishbulbreset the device
22:00.30Jonnifishbulb: you need to reflash, as reset doesnt clear repolist
22:00.40fishbulbreflash how? with windows?
22:00.59Jonnihttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=82693  there are flashers for windows, linux and mac
22:01.14fishbulbfuckit
22:01.25fishbulbI'll reset the thing, that's what fucked it up in the first place
22:01.52fishbulbit had this crap from back when it was supported and it was cluttered with someone elses shit
22:02.19Jonnireset only clears some settings, you always reflash the device to start fresh
22:03.41fishbulbI'm clearing the device
22:04.06fishbulbit reset the whole thing the first time I did this
22:04.22fishbulball data and settings should disappear.
22:04.29Jonniclearing the device from UI does not clear the device, nor does the reset, Only way to clear the device is to use that flasher binary and usb cable
22:04.54fishbulbfuuuuck.
22:05.00fishbulbI'm sick of this
22:06.11Jonniusing flasher is pretty easy, but ofcourse it takes time to readh the flashing instructions.
22:08.00JonniI just have like four or five N9's alive with custom repoes. And couple N950's in the shelves.
22:10.57fishbulbsoon as this has the necessary stuff I'm sending it off to my father
22:11.29fishbulbhe's on some broken old phone with buttons
22:11.41fishbulbI use an n900
22:12.10fishbulbwhen every n900 breaks, I'll have to move to android
22:18.50fishbulbclearing the device reset it back to the beginning the first time
22:18.58fishbulbwhy won't it do it this time?
22:29.33fishbulbalright, done, wiped
22:32.33fishbulbn9 repomirror
22:32.58fishbulbthen meego terminal?
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22:41.20fishbulbhey can someone upload an image of their phone
22:41.26fishbulbwith working repos and shit
22:41.49fishbulbis there such a thing out there? settings that can be loaded onto it?
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