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18:33.18 | fishbulb | hi |
18:33.28 | fishbulb | nobody is in #n9 |
18:33.41 | fishbulb | I need to make this 64gb phone operational |
18:34.12 | fishbulb | can someone give pointers, the repos don't work, I might need to flash it to a newer version of whatever |
18:36.34 | fishbulb | it's running pr 1.3 |
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19:11.21 | tbr | 1.3 was the last release IIRC |
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19:39.39 | viljami | fishbulb? |
19:46.17 | fishbulb | hello |
19:46.27 | fishbulb | I installed repomirror 0.6.0 |
19:46.35 | fishbulb | developer mode won't turn on |
19:48.05 | fishbulb | it says installed but the size is 0kb |
19:48.12 | fishbulb | "actual n9 repositories" |
19:48.26 | fishbulb | I cant' get developer mode to download what it needs, is there something else I have to do? |
19:55.21 | Oni_ | reboot? |
19:56.36 | fishbulb | I'll try that again |
19:57.57 | Sicelo | no |
19:58.31 | Sicelo | he needs to remove the aegis* files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ |
19:59.17 | Sicelo | after that you will be able to install developer mode without issues |
19:59.39 | Sicelo | that's teh part which is not *too* obvious from the repomirror page |
20:00.41 | fishbulb | how? |
20:01.05 | Sicelo | what i did was install the terminal manually from the deb file |
20:01.10 | fishbulb | I really just want to use the phone as a phone |
20:01.27 | fishbulb | it's functionally useless at the moment |
20:01.33 | fishbulb | where is a terminal .deb? |
20:01.40 | Sicelo | to remove the files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ does not need root |
20:01.56 | fishbulb | I mount the phone in linux or something |
20:01.57 | Sicelo | as a phone? doesn't phone not even need developer momde? |
20:02.53 | fishbulb | I can't get any applications |
20:03.00 | fishbulb | I can't change anything |
20:03.23 | fishbulb | how do I remove those files? |
20:03.43 | Sicelo | https://openrepos.net/content/koenigseggccgt/developer-mode |
20:03.59 | Sicelo | install terminal from the deb files given in that link |
20:06.19 | Sicelo | you can install some of the other files too, but terminal > remove those aegis files .. you should then be able to install developer mode properly |
20:06.38 | Sicelo | in thinking about it further .. |
20:06.53 | fishbulb | ok this tiny keyboard is difficult |
20:06.56 | Sicelo | maybe you only just need "warehouse" and not even developer mode |
20:07.27 | fishbulb | where is warehouse? |
20:07.29 | Sicelo | yeah, annoying, haha .. i couldn't bear it .. but then .. the N9 belongs to a special friend, so |
20:07.46 | Sicelo | look in openrepos.net ;) |
20:08.04 | Sicelo | that's basically the new home of the N9/Harmattan |
20:09.24 | fishbulb | this is for my father |
20:09.34 | Sicelo | :) |
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20:10.42 | Sicelo | i have 2 N900, but will definitely say i love the N9 UX .. wow! and also the construction of the hardware |
20:11.11 | fishbulb | yeah this phone feels great, and looks great, but I have a couple of n900's too |
20:11.47 | fishbulb | 1 working and 1 spare and 1 broken usb |
20:12.02 | Sicelo | fix the USB one :) worth it |
20:12.06 | fishbulb | I'm not going to move to a different phone until n900 is totally extinct |
20:12.44 | fishbulb | yup worth it but very annoying taking them apart. it's not important yet |
20:13.34 | fishbulb | I can't find warehouse |
20:14.37 | fishbulb | warehouse installer? |
20:16.00 | Sicelo | https://openrepos.net/content/basil/warehouse |
20:16.44 | Sicelo | anyway, i don't knw N9 very well .. read openrepos, ask here, and make your own decisions |
20:20.18 | fishbulb | how do I even open these things |
20:20.26 | fishbulb | I installed it |
20:20.31 | fishbulb | I can't find it to open |
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20:21.39 | fishbulb | restart again or something |
20:23.26 | Sicelo | what things? :) |
20:24.16 | Sicelo | have you installed the terminal? open the links on N9 browser .. then when you click the deb it will be possible to install by simply clicking it in the list of downloads |
20:30.00 | fishbulb | I installed it then it said couldn't refresh parts of cache |
20:35.08 | fishbulb | developer mode deb file won't install either |
20:36.05 | Sicelo | so you have terminal in the application list/menu? |
20:37.34 | fishbulb | nope |
20:37.40 | fishbulb | warehouse installer won't work |
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20:40.11 | Sicelo | open this from a browser *on the N9* .. https://openrepos.net/sites/default/files/packages/122/meego-terminal_0.2.20m6_armel.deb |
20:40.49 | fishbulb | yeah I'm doing that man |
20:41.14 | fishbulb | ok I used the first link, it' sfetching repositories.... |
20:41.28 | fishbulb | same error :( |
20:42.51 | Sicelo | i am a bit confused -- is a terminal installed on the N9 right now? yes/no |
20:42.59 | fishbulb | ok finally |
20:43.00 | fishbulb | yes |
20:43.55 | Sicelo | alright. aegis* files removed? |
20:44.19 | fishbulb | I'm reading off a very small screen, where are they? |
20:44.28 | viljami | fug, my gf says everyday that "why don't you buy a new phone" |
20:44.43 | viljami | i love my n9 ;_; |
20:45.02 | Sicelo | <PROTECTED> |
20:45.16 | Sicelo | move them to /home/user for example |
20:45.51 | fishbulb | move them? why? |
20:46.46 | fishbulb | permission denied |
20:46.58 | fishbulb | is there a "stock" root password? |
20:47.05 | Sicelo | haha, no permission denied :) |
20:47.28 | Sicelo | read that error correct .. just said it can't set file ownership properly |
20:47.41 | Sicelo | try install developer mode the "normal" way now |
20:47.53 | fishbulb | permission denied |
20:48.06 | fishbulb | install dev mode in the menu |
20:48.08 | fishbulb | trying that |
20:52.00 | fishbulb | it won't. |
20:53.41 | Sicelo | what was your command to remove the aegis.. files? |
20:53.46 | fishbulb | rm |
20:53.51 | fishbulb | rm aegis* |
20:53.58 | fishbulb | permission denied |
20:54.48 | Sicelo | do `ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/` and show us output |
20:58.03 | fishbulb | nothing |
21:00.25 | fishbulb | ok |
21:00.40 | fishbulb | aegis.ssu-keyring-001.list |
21:00.43 | fishbulb | 005 |
21:00.58 | fishbulb | n9openmirror.list |
21:01.07 | fishbulb | openrepos-basil.list |
21:01.11 | fishbulb | osa.list |
21:02.28 | fishbulb | oops |
21:02.41 | fishbulb | n9repomirror.list |
21:03.11 | fishbulb | I have perfect eyesight and this writing is small |
21:06.10 | fishbulb | how do I get root? |
21:06.17 | Sicelo | you can't (yet) |
21:06.57 | fishbulb | I dunno what to do |
21:06.58 | Sicelo | `mv /etc/apt/sources.list.d/aegis* /home/user/` |
21:10.02 | fishbulb | permission denied |
21:10.14 | fishbulb | fuck. |
21:10.37 | fishbulb | can't preserve ownership of blahblahblah |
21:10.42 | fishbulb | permission denied blahblahblah |
21:10.47 | Sicelo | i have no idea. that worked just fine on the N9 i worked on .. earlier this week |
21:11.02 | fishbulb | what other packages |
21:11.10 | fishbulb | should I install |
21:11.30 | fishbulb | if I can't get root how the hell do I do this? |
21:11.47 | Sicelo | perhaps install as many of the packages https://openrepos.net/content/koenigseggccgt/developer-mode as will install .. and retry moving the aegis stuff |
21:12.07 | Sicelo | as long as it sits there, you can't really update/install anything else |
21:13.50 | fishbulb | all of them? |
21:14.05 | Sicelo | not all will install .. just try as many as you can |
21:14.18 | Jonni | nono dont do that |
21:14.38 | Jonni | all you need is to install repomirror, set clock and time to right time and install developermode through the ui. |
21:14.42 | fishbulb | which of these do I actually need |
21:14.51 | fishbulb | set clock to what? |
21:14.55 | fishbulb | I haven't yet |
21:15.00 | Jonni | if you install seperate deb files then you dont get the right permissions |
21:15.01 | fishbulb | repomirror is installed |
21:15.21 | Jonni | (developer-mode install fails if clock and time is not the current one) |
21:15.28 | Sicelo | heh |
21:15.37 | fishbulb | the clock and time is the current one |
21:15.44 | fishbulb | I don't get it |
21:15.53 | Jonni | and date and year needs to be current one too |
21:15.54 | fishbulb | it's current for my city and location. |
21:15.58 | fishbulb | it is |
21:16.18 | fishbulb | for australia it's all correct |
21:17.27 | fishbulb | it won't fetch repositories |
21:17.36 | fishbulb | I'm using the Warehouse Installer |
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21:17.46 | Jonni | what command did you try to fetch repositories? |
21:17.56 | fishbulb | there's a warehouse installer |
21:17.58 | Jonni | you are not able to use warehouse untill developer mode has been installed |
21:18.01 | Jonni | as it wont work |
21:18.04 | fishbulb | shit |
21:18.10 | fishbulb | what then? |
21:18.23 | Sicelo | it won't fetch them because you still have aegis repos. you can try all you can .. you need to remove them |
21:18.41 | Jonni | thats why Im asking if you have installed something on top of the repomirror, like terminal? |
21:18.56 | Sicelo | tbh, i don't understand why n9repomirror isnstall doesn't remove them. fail imo |
21:19.00 | fishbulb | terminal yes |
21:19.02 | Jonni | Sicelo: there is no need to remove aegis repos |
21:19.27 | Sicelo | i had the same problem until i removed them |
21:19.31 | fishbulb | I installed terminal so that I could type these commands |
21:19.54 | Jonni | fishbulb: ok, terminal should be helpfull, have you tried to install developer-mode through terminal yet |
21:20.29 | Sicelo | https://openrepos.net/comment/8911#comment-8911 .. and that user is *not* me |
21:21.21 | fishbulb | don't know how to install it |
21:22.02 | Sicelo | you cannot install it from terminal, trust me :) |
21:22.14 | Sicelo | anyway .... |
21:22.17 | Sicelo | heads to bed |
21:22.18 | fishbulb | ok? |
21:22.43 | Jonni | fishbulb: a second I'll tell you terminal commands: |
21:22.51 | fishbulb | sweet. |
21:22.57 | Jonni | I've installed developer mode many times |
21:23.28 | fishbulb | I'll wait |
21:23.31 | Jonni | first try to run "pkgmgr refresh-cache" |
21:24.11 | fishbulb | flags: |
21:25.15 | fishbulb | some parts of the cache could not be refreshed |
21:27.30 | fishbulb | this is why "warehouse installer" kept failing |
21:28.04 | Jonni | I'll login to my n9 to refresh my mind about right commands |
21:28.15 | fishbulb | heh thanks |
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21:30.06 | Jonni | that warehouse thing might cause problems, since with only flashed device and n9repomirror, that refresh-cache command says successfull... but lets try something |
21:30.17 | fishbulb | HOLY SHIT |
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21:30.25 | fishbulb | a fukcing garbage truck just crashed outside |
21:30.28 | fishbulb | into another car |
21:30.55 | fishbulb | ahaha fucking hell |
21:30.56 | fishbulb | wit |
21:30.56 | fishbulb | wait |
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21:31.47 | Jonni | "pkgmgr install -p developer-mode" |
21:31.50 | Jonni | try that |
21:33.33 | fishbulb | oh man |
21:33.37 | fishbulb | one whole side of hte car is wiped out |
21:33.45 | fishbulb | nobody is fucked up I don't think |
21:33.56 | fishbulb | retards |
21:34.29 | fishbulb | someone's car is TOTALLED |
21:34.52 | Jonni | if that doesnt work, then you need to uninstall warehouse etc packages to get cleaner sources.list (or just reflash the device and only install n9repomirror and terminal, and then "pkgmgr refresh-cache; pkgmgr install -p developer-mode") |
21:35.55 | fishbulb | ok |
21:36.01 | fishbulb | could not resolve host |
21:36.10 | fishbulb | etc etc |
21:36.22 | fishbulb | whole screen of could not resolve host |
21:36.31 | fishbulb | reset the whole device? |
21:36.37 | Jonni | maybe your internet is not working, or does web browser work in device? |
21:37.17 | fishbulb | web browser works fine |
21:37.26 | fishbulb | it' slooking on maemo.nokia.com for some reason |
21:37.57 | Jonni | maybe n9repomirror was installed without the "allow 3rd party setting"? |
21:38.53 | fishbulb | I allowed 3rd party apps |
21:39.23 | Jonni | well yes quickest way is to reflash and only install n9repomirror and terminal, as without root its hard to clean sources.list |
21:39.56 | Jonni | and only install warehouse etc packages after developer-mode has been successfully installed |
21:40.16 | fishbulb | I'll just uninstall all of them |
21:40.28 | fishbulb | apart from n9repomirror and the other one |
21:41.10 | Jonni | lets hope that it cleans /etc/apt/sources.list.d directory |
21:41.18 | fishbulb | I only have meego terminal and... oh shit |
21:41.25 | fishbulb | ok reset the whole damn thing |
21:42.17 | fishbulb | fuck! |
21:42.25 | Jonni | I only have 3 files in there: osa.list n9repomirror.list aegis.ssu-keyring-001.list, thats why developer-mode install works nicely |
21:42.29 | fishbulb | all the wallpapers anda other bullshit |
21:43.52 | fishbulb | clearing device, it'll take a while |
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21:48.23 | fishbulb | should I do this in sdk mode |
21:48.31 | fishbulb | I'm using linux |
21:48.50 | fishbulb | I don't want to have to type that shit out again. |
21:48.53 | fishbulb | on the phone |
21:51.04 | Jonni | sdk mode only appears after installing developer mode |
21:51.08 | Jonni | chicken egg |
21:52.11 | fishbulb | chickenegg^n |
21:53.11 | fishbulb | man can you upload something for me to flash to this phone |
21:53.15 | Jonni | but its only about writing 2 commans in terminal, so shouldnt be that bad :) |
21:53.17 | fishbulb | with the settings and shit |
21:53.24 | fishbulb | ok I'll go through it again |
21:53.46 | Jonni | after the 2 commands, you should be able to connect ssh from linux and things get easier |
21:54.52 | fishbulb | can you tell me them again, I'm reading from a tiny piece of screen |
21:55.20 | Jonni | pkgmgr refresh-cache; pkgmgr install -p developer-mode |
21:55.26 | fishbulb | wait a minute terminal is here |
21:56.58 | fishbulb | I reset the device and meego terminal is still installed |
21:58.12 | Jonni | so whats in /etc/apt/sources.list.d? |
21:58.45 | Jonni | I said to reflash and not to reset (but if reset clears the dir then I dont mind) |
22:00.09 | fishbulb | parts of the cache could not be refreshed |
22:00.19 | fishbulb | reset the device |
22:00.30 | Jonni | fishbulb: you need to reflash, as reset doesnt clear repolist |
22:00.40 | fishbulb | reflash how? with windows? |
22:00.59 | Jonni | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=82693 there are flashers for windows, linux and mac |
22:01.14 | fishbulb | fuckit |
22:01.25 | fishbulb | I'll reset the thing, that's what fucked it up in the first place |
22:01.52 | fishbulb | it had this crap from back when it was supported and it was cluttered with someone elses shit |
22:02.19 | Jonni | reset only clears some settings, you always reflash the device to start fresh |
22:03.41 | fishbulb | I'm clearing the device |
22:04.06 | fishbulb | it reset the whole thing the first time I did this |
22:04.22 | fishbulb | all data and settings should disappear. |
22:04.29 | Jonni | clearing the device from UI does not clear the device, nor does the reset, Only way to clear the device is to use that flasher binary and usb cable |
22:04.54 | fishbulb | fuuuuck. |
22:05.00 | fishbulb | I'm sick of this |
22:06.11 | Jonni | using flasher is pretty easy, but ofcourse it takes time to readh the flashing instructions. |
22:08.00 | Jonni | I just have like four or five N9's alive with custom repoes. And couple N950's in the shelves. |
22:10.57 | fishbulb | soon as this has the necessary stuff I'm sending it off to my father |
22:11.29 | fishbulb | he's on some broken old phone with buttons |
22:11.41 | fishbulb | I use an n900 |
22:12.10 | fishbulb | when every n900 breaks, I'll have to move to android |
22:18.50 | fishbulb | clearing the device reset it back to the beginning the first time |
22:18.58 | fishbulb | why won't it do it this time? |
22:29.33 | fishbulb | alright, done, wiped |
22:32.33 | fishbulb | n9 repomirror |
22:32.58 | fishbulb | then meego terminal? |
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22:41.20 | fishbulb | hey can someone upload an image of their phone |
22:41.26 | fishbulb | with working repos and shit |
22:41.49 | fishbulb | is there such a thing out there? settings that can be loaded onto it? |
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