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| 08:52.09 | goxboxlive | cr2 : Isent this what we are planning to use? www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/RamdiskRescue |
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| 09:10.38 | florian_kc | good morning |
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| 09:29.47 | goxboxlive | morning florian_kc |
| 09:30.07 | goxboxlive | what does _kc mean? |
| 09:33.43 | florian_kc | goxboxlive: "kernel concepts", that's the company i work for |
| 09:36.08 | goxboxlive | ok i c |
| 10:20.27 | cr2 | goxboxlive: i have put the sound patches into hh.org CVS yesterday. can you test them ? |
| 10:21.07 | cr2 | the RamdiskRescue looks good. now we only need a "haretless" bootloader. |
| 10:21.09 | goxboxlive | hhello, i have tried them , but no luck |
| 10:21.29 | goxboxlive | when i compiles them in to the kernel OPie refused to start. |
| 10:21.44 | cr2 | can you compare the .config with hx4700 ? |
| 10:21.47 | goxboxlive | WHen i compile them as modules nothing happens. |
| 10:21.59 | cr2 | compiling into the kernel did not work with .12 too. |
| 10:22.23 | goxboxlive | i am loading snd-oss-mixer, snd-oss-pcm and the htcuniversal soud module |
| 10:22.27 | goxboxlive | i know |
| 10:22.30 | cr2 | i guess some module is missing. |
| 10:22.49 | cr2 | the code is not the best ;) |
| 10:22.50 | goxboxlive | hold 'll try again, is there a order to load the modules? |
| 10:22.54 | goxboxlive | :-) |
| 10:24.08 | cr2 | we can try one by one. you need at least i2s for data, i2c for control, ak4641, htcuniversal_audio. |
| 10:25.07 | cr2 | modprobe htcuniversal_* was enough on .12 but the code is massively rewritten now, and some redundant parts are still in the CVS and used by h54xx afaik. |
| 10:26.56 | goxboxlive | there are som buzz in the soudspeaker, doesnt sound good though |
| 10:29.30 | goxboxlive | It sounds like buzz and it is ticking about one time in a sec. |
| 10:30.23 | cr2 | ok. still something. |
| 10:32.55 | goxboxlive | Have you seen this : www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/RamdiskRescue |
| 10:40.54 | goxboxlive | But there are some bugs, because i have allways managed to use alsamixer, and now i get the error "snd_mixer_load failed, operation not permitted. |
| 10:47.27 | goxboxlive | mickeyl are you around? |
| 10:47.57 | mickeyl | ya |
| 10:48.09 | goxboxlive | Once you told me to use qt-mt , because of the advantage in in example konqueror-embedded |
| 10:48.19 | mickeyl | yes |
| 10:48.20 | goxboxlive | But my OE is failing building konq. |
| 10:48.27 | mickeyl | that's sad |
| 10:48.33 | mickeyl | how? |
| 10:48.42 | goxboxlive | Where can i download konqueror-emedded wich not depends on libqte? |
| 10:49.06 | mickeyl | all konq depend on Qt/Embedded. |
| 10:49.31 | cr2 | mickeyl: qte & qte-mt |
| 10:49.41 | goxboxlive | so i van insall libqte even thow i use libqte-mt? |
| 10:49.56 | cr2 | goxboxlive: do you have snd-ak4641 ? |
| 10:49.59 | mickeyl | eh. no that'd be of no use |
| 10:50.05 | mickeyl | there are two konq/E versions |
| 10:50.15 | goxboxlive | oik |
| 10:50.20 | mickeyl | 2.x from 2003 - that one needs libqte.so |
| 10:50.28 | mickeyl | 3.x from 2006 - that one needs libqte-mt.so |
| 10:50.44 | mickeyl | 3.x is _much_ better |
| 10:50.48 | goxboxlive | cr2: snd_ak4641 |
| 10:50.48 | mickeyl | which is why I recommended libqte-mt. |
| 10:51.00 | cr2 | ok. |
| 10:51.56 | goxboxlive | mickeyl : When i try to build this one is failing for me : konqueror-embedded_20060404.bb |
| 10:52.17 | mickeyl | how? |
| 10:52.28 | mickeyl | pastebin the output |
| 10:52.33 | goxboxlive | ok, hold on i pastebin the output |
| 10:57.43 | goxboxlive | mickeyl it will take some time, it is updateing the kdelibs cvs |
| 10:59.30 | mickeyl | no hurry |
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| 11:21.16 | goxboxlive | mickeyl here is the pastebin. I didnt have enough buffer for the whole output: http://pastebin.ca/85978 |
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| 11:26.18 | mickeyl | looks like a -frtti vs. -fno-rtti error |
| 11:26.34 | mickeyl | konq/e 2006 needs rtti |
| 11:26.43 | mickeyl | did you try to link against some home built qte? |
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| 11:27.38 | goxboxlive | no |
| 11:27.46 | goxboxlive | no home build qte |
| 11:28.09 | goxboxlive | ok, so i jsut install rtti or do i buidl it? |
| 11:28.23 | mickeyl | rtti is a compile option |
| 11:28.37 | mickeyl | mixing rtti and non-rtti compiled stuff doesn't work |
| 11:28.45 | mickeyl | let me check whether i can reproduce that problem |
| 11:30.01 | goxboxlive | ok, so all my stuff is compiled with no-rtti and konq/E needs just rtti. I C . So if i move over to rtti my other stuff will be useless. right? |
| 11:30.35 | goxboxlive | i'll look in my local.conf and see if there are something about rtti there. |
| 11:31.03 | mickeyl | check that at least your qte uses rtti |
| 11:31.25 | mickeyl | look into the log.do_compile which params it has supplied to the g++ |
| 11:35.42 | goxboxlive | -DKJS_VERBOSE=1 ? is it this you mean? |
| 11:35.57 | mickeyl | no. -frtti |
| 11:37.00 | goxboxlive | yes this comes back -frtti -DKJS_VERBOSE=1 |
| 11:37.08 | goxboxlive | maybe i should upload the log file |
| 11:42.21 | goxboxlive | -frtti -DKJS_VERBOSE=1 -DQT_THREAD_SUPPORT |
| 11:42.35 | goxboxlive | mickeyl the file where to big to upload. |
| 11:43.23 | mickeyl | well, that looks good so far |
| 11:43.29 | mickeyl | dunno offhand where the problem is |
| 11:43.43 | mickeyl | like i said, i need reproducability first |
| 11:43.48 | mickeyl | which is why I'm baking it |
| 11:43.54 | mickeyl | that will take a while |
| 11:44.17 | goxboxlive | ok, do you want me to send you the log.do.compile file? |
| 11:44.48 | goxboxlive | BTW i am not creating local binary files, could it have something to do with that? |
| 11:48.47 | mickeyl | local binary files? |
| 11:49.39 | goxboxlive_ | ENABLE_BINARY_LOCALE_GENERATION = "0" |
| 11:49.39 | mickeyl | ah. no that has absolutely nothing to do with QtE or KonQ |
| 11:49.51 | goxboxlive_ | ok good |
| 11:52.12 | goxboxlive_ | why isent there any konq/E 2006 version in the www.openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.4.1/feed/opie/ ? |
| 11:52.55 | mickeyl | because the new version is not in .354x branch, only in .dev |
| 11:53.14 | mickeyl | since it needs qte-mt this was a too intrusive change for the stable branch |
| 11:53.18 | goxboxlive_ | is there any .dev repo? |
| 11:53.21 | mickeyl | of course |
| 11:53.26 | goxboxlive_ | where? |
| 11:53.31 | mickeyl | in monotone |
| 11:53.36 | mickeyl | or are you talking feed ? |
| 11:53.38 | mickeyl | feed, no |
| 11:53.46 | goxboxlive_ | yes feed, ok i c |
| 11:54.13 | goxboxlive_ | there should be a .dev feed |
| 11:54.22 | mickeyl | ok, i can reproduce your problem |
| 11:54.24 | mickeyl | good for you :D |
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| 11:54.43 | goxboxlive_ | ok, so it's not just me that have this problem, good to hear |
| 11:54.44 | mickeyl | well.. dunno whether it's the same problem |
| 11:54.48 | mickeyl | but i can't compile it |
| 11:54.54 | mickeyl | i'll look into it when i have a chance |
| 11:55.04 | goxboxlive_ | probably, i have had it the last cuolpe of months |
| 11:55.09 | mickeyl | need to spend some hours for other work |
| 11:55.11 | goxboxlive_ | good, thanks for your helkp |
| 11:55.21 | goxboxlive_ | of course |
| 11:55.21 | mickeyl | np |
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| 12:51.18 | cr2 | goxboxlive: does unpatched qte-mt support QPainter transforms ? (QT_NO_TRANSFORM undefined) |
| 12:51.45 | goxboxlive_ | i dont nknow cr2? |
| 12:52.10 | goxboxlive_ | all i have done is to remove the machien patch. |
| 12:52.21 | goxboxlive_ | Do you want my monotone diff? |
| 12:52.58 | goxboxlive_ | the qte-mt is still pacthed with other stuff. |
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| 13:30.24 | mickey|thesis | goxboxlive: phew. ok. i fixed it. pull'n'update, then rebuild qte-mt, then rebuild konq-2006 and it should build. |
| 13:30.42 | goxboxlive | ok thank you very much |
| 13:30.46 | mickey|thesis | np |
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| 13:30.53 | mickey|thesis | t'was a problem in qte-common |
| 13:30.58 | goxboxlive | i c |
| 13:31.04 | mickey|thesis | i guess a merge failure did enable -fno-rtti again |
| 13:31.16 | mickey|thesis | whereas i had -frtti last time i looked at the file |
| 14:28.35 | goxboxlive | mickey|thesis could you just mail me the konq/E ipk file? The libcre file is allready built so i dont need that one. Mail it to my username at gmail . |
| 14:31.06 | mickey|thesis | sent. it's probably not useful for you though, since it's based on .dev DISTRO=generic-unstable and MACHINE=c7x0 |
| 14:38.41 | goxboxlive | ok, thx anyway. |
| 15:21.10 | goxboxlive | cr2 r u there? can you build something for me? |
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| 17:42.30 | florian_kc | hi davidchow |
| 17:42.49 | florian_kc | usually here are some... |
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| 18:24.59 | goxboxlive | row_w r u there? |
| 18:26.02 | goxboxlive | BabelOued are you there? |
| 18:26.13 | BabelOued | hi |
| 18:26.14 | BabelOued | yes |
| 18:26.21 | goxboxlive | Hi, do you build with OE? |
| 18:27.00 | BabelOued | i try to build with OE one month ago, but i don't have the right conf |
| 18:27.44 | BabelOued | do you have one for BA and OPIE? |
| 18:28.02 | goxboxlive | are you thinking about the local.conf? |
| 18:28.08 | goxboxlive | or the machine file? |
| 18:28.34 | BabelOued | machine file if i remember, i use one from lkcl |
| 18:28.53 | goxboxlive | you can have my local.conf if you want. It is based on florian's local.conf |
| 18:29.17 | goxboxlive | But the machine file for BA is implemented in OE |
| 18:29.17 | BabelOued | ok |
| 18:29.58 | BabelOued | ok but this one need some tweak i think |
| 18:30.24 | goxboxlive | i guess, take a look at the Universal, that one work. |
| 18:30.40 | goxboxlive | xanadux-un-2.6.bb, and htcuniversal.conf |
| 18:30.45 | rob_w | BabelOued, for a basic build it is quite good .. yet it misses some modules |
| 18:30.54 | goxboxlive | But that is for the .12 kernel |
| 18:30.55 | BabelOued | i prefer build kernel by hand |
| 18:31.04 | goxboxlive | rob_w do yu build with OE? |
| 18:31.09 | rob_w | yes |
| 18:31.17 | goxboxlive | are you using qte-mt? |
| 18:31.19 | BabelOued | rob_w: ok, i use it to build some OPIE tools and bootstrap image |
| 18:31.39 | rob_w | i just started again working on the ba 2 days ago .. |
| 18:31.46 | rob_w | no qte-mt |
| 18:31.52 | goxboxlive | why? |
| 18:32.09 | goxboxlive | HAve you edited your distro.conf? |
| 18:32.13 | rob_w | i dont even know exactly what tahat is .. |
| 18:32.26 | BabelOued | goxboxlive: qte-mt is QT for multithread ? right ? |
| 18:32.27 | goxboxlive | Ok, so you havent edited the familiar-unstable.conf? |
| 18:32.33 | goxboxlive | yes |
| 18:32.40 | rob_w | i am building only gpe stuff. |
| 18:32.46 | goxboxlive | ohh i c |
| 18:32.54 | goxboxlive | then you cant help me :-/ |
| 18:32.58 | rob_w | thats where i am then also capable to write apps for |
| 18:33.06 | goxboxlive | i c |
| 18:33.28 | rob_w | i dont like QT `s license world |
| 18:33.36 | goxboxlive | ok |
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| 18:34.42 | BabelOued | rob_w: i like QT because for me it is similar to Borland class and i work with borland at my work |
| 18:35.26 | rob_w | BabelOued, right ,, i also dont hate QT .. it defnitly has his nice views ..specially optics can be really cool there |
| 18:35.42 | BabelOued | rob_w: yes :) |
| 18:36.37 | rob_w | but a nice native X-gtk based system also hase his charm to me . as i work only on gtk at work |
| 18:36.57 | BabelOued | rob_w: you have a nice job :) |
| 18:37.12 | rob_w | hehe .. as you say |
| 18:38.41 | BabelOued | rob_w: yesturday evening, i modify blueangel_lcd.c for no warning at compile time |
| 18:38.46 | BabelOued | on 2.6.16 |
| 18:38.56 | goxboxlive | mickey|thesis : As you know konq/E failed, but zraodmap and qpegps did also failed with the new qte-common.inc, so i' using the old one again. And with the old one konq/E still failes, but zroadmap and qpegps builds. So maybe there are still something wrong with the qte-common.inc. Try to build zraodmap or qpegps yourself and see if you are able to build ? |
| 18:39.21 | rob_w | BabelOued, are you able to put up a clean cvs tar.gz online .. iam having problems to checkout 2.6.16-hh4 |
| 18:40.02 | goxboxlive | BTW, i havent got the mail yet, sure you sent it to my right email adress? goxboxlive(-------at--------)gmail(------------------DOT--------------)com ? |
| 18:40.19 | BabelOued | yes, i can put cvs from hh.org from yesturday evening |
| 18:40.27 | rob_w | oh please |
| 18:41.41 | BabelOued | i remove object file and tar gz it |
| 18:41.56 | rob_w | yes cool |
| 18:43.24 | BabelOued | i've HEAD from cvs not -hh4 branch |
| 18:43.51 | rob_w | hmm cr2 mentioned the hh4 |
| 18:44.01 | rob_w | maybe head i can get myself .. |
| 18:44.14 | rob_w | but put it online if it is no problem to u |
| 18:44.14 | BabelOued | he migrate yesturday evening i think |
| 18:45.09 | rob_w | ok,, i brb |
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| 18:56.55 | goxboxlive | mickey|thesis it dumped in top my mail box now. 4 huors after you had sent it. There has been som problems at gnmail today. |
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| 19:47.47 | goxboxlive | NickBee r u there? |
| 19:48.00 | NickBee | hi gox |
| 19:48.11 | goxboxlive | Are you waiting for cr2 to join? |
| 19:48.26 | NickBee | sort of |
| 19:48.50 | NickBee | any news? |
| 19:49.09 | goxboxlive | Ok have a task for you while you wait |
| 19:49.24 | NickBee | tell me |
| 19:49.39 | goxboxlive | Could you make a beetles wiki page like the one we have for Universal/BLueangel and so on? http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/Universal |
| 19:50.24 | goxboxlive | You could use the on i habe made for the Universal as a template. |
| 19:50.52 | goxboxlive | It is good to advertise for your port |
| 19:51.20 | NickBee | certianly will do that |
| 19:51.21 | goxboxlive | More people will be intrested in it, and the bigger the comunity get the bether |
| 19:51.54 | NickBee | agreed |
| 19:52.03 | goxboxlive | great, you have to be a meber to edit/make files. I can make template files for you and then you fill the info in ok? |
| 19:52.39 | NickBee | I have enough time these days, but no clear focus, maybe this will help |
| 19:52.56 | NickBee | sure |
| 19:54.01 | goxboxlive | is the name HP-6515? |
| 19:54.21 | NickBee | do i have to be a developer or a user to create/edit page? |
| 19:54.36 | NickBee | the exact name is 'ipaq hw6515" |
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| 20:06.01 | goxboxlive | NickBee:now you have something to work on :-) http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/Beetles |
| 20:06.31 | goxboxlive | No you dont have to be a developer, just register to the handhelds.org and then you van edit all the pages there |
| 20:06.58 | NickBee | k |
| 20:07.55 | goxboxlive | To see my source just hit the "paper" to left of the printer symbol in the right top corner. Just copy the text and edit it so it's fit's the Beetle |
| 20:11.10 | NickBee | sure, will do that |
| 20:11.15 | goxboxlive | good |
| 20:13.04 | BabelOued | rob_w: you've a ftp server ? my provider don't work well today, some problems on his server |
| 20:22.50 | NickBee | i will leave now, will work on that page. thanks gox. |
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| 20:46.55 | BabelOued | rob_w: are you here ? i've your file on my personnal ftp |
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| 21:00.49 | BabelOued | goxboxlive are you here ? |
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| 21:47.14 | goxboxlive_ | yes i am here |
| 21:47.35 | BabelOued | yes |
| 21:47.54 | BabelOued | have a question avout a possible qphone application |
| 21:48.01 | BabelOued | somebody work on it ? |
| 21:49.58 | goxboxlive_ | no i dont know. |
| 21:50.08 | goxboxlive_ | I havent heard of any. |
| 21:50.28 | BabelOued | because there is some VoIp application |
| 21:50.37 | BabelOued | maybe with some modification |
| 21:50.38 | goxboxlive_ | yes i know, kpone/pi |
| 21:50.48 | BabelOued | cr2 have a working phone on universal ? |
| 21:50.58 | goxboxlive_ | not in linux |
| 21:51.14 | goxboxlive_ | he is using the same as we are. |
| 21:51.37 | BabelOued | ok |
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