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| 05:54.12 | silven | . |
| 06:01.02 | Kevin2 | .. |
| 06:10.40 | silven | :) Sorry. |
| 06:10.47 | silven | How're you doing? |
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| 08:01.09 | alge | hi |
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| 08:17.01 | rob_w | morning |
| 08:29.42 | alge | i'm still struggling with 2.6.16 ... |
| 08:30.10 | rob_w | still not booting ? |
| 08:30.15 | alge | now i got the tagged cvs trees (hh4 and hh5 from handhelds.org), |
| 08:30.24 | alge | your patch applies ok |
| 08:30.27 | alge | it compiles |
| 08:30.30 | rob_w | ok |
| 08:30.38 | alge | but now i dont see anything |
| 08:30.41 | rob_w | i am fighting with a newer oe today |
| 08:30.47 | alge | the haret logo fills up |
| 08:30.49 | alge | and stays |
| 08:31.28 | alge | can i ask you to send me your zimage, just to see it working one time :-) |
| 08:31.29 | rob_w | ok that could a compiler issue .. i had this also then compiled the same stuff outside oe with gcc 3.4.4 and it worked |
| 08:31.39 | rob_w | sure hang on |
| 08:32.18 | alge | ok, i'll check my cross gcc version |
| 08:33.01 | alge | alge@xi:~/ba$ ./tmp/cross/arm-linux/bin/gcc --version |
| 08:33.01 | alge | gcc (GCC) 3.4.4 |
| 08:33.36 | rob_w | yeah i also had this try , but it was not working .. couldnt figure out what oe does to not work |
| 08:33.46 | alge | another question: i alos applied the ts2200*diffs, ok? |
| 08:33.50 | rob_w | but also sometimes haret fucks up and u just dont see something |
| 08:34.00 | rob_w | yeah .. ok |
| 08:34.14 | alge | is this the same haret as with the 2.6.12 image? |
| 08:34.21 | rob_w | those basicly move the tsc2200 into some better location |
| 08:34.32 | rob_w | there is a newer one |
| 08:34.45 | alge | i have |
| 08:34.47 | alge | alge@xi:~/ba$ md5sum /backup/usbdisk/linux/haret.exe |
| 08:34.47 | alge | 016d4e9e61409602a3a1da245d0096a8 /backup/usbdisk/linux/haret.exe |
| 08:35.22 | rob_w | md5sum gpe0108/haret.exe |
| 08:35.22 | rob_w | 61934fe1ea18ed56c82bcc11955dd311 gpe0108/haret.exe |
| 08:35.59 | alge | were can i find this one? or is it now the standard one without ba souns enabling? |
| 08:36.00 | rob_w | now check my gnulinux.biz dir .. i uploaded the haret and zImage |
| 08:36.05 | alge | thanks |
| 08:36.27 | rob_w | oh , right this one might not do the sound trick |
| 08:37.25 | rob_w | hmm oe now builds diet-x11-X11R7.1-1.0.1-r0 i hope this is NOT X11 |
| 08:39.44 | alge | with current oe, I had to change some bb files to compile, opie related: opie-bluepin, opie-qcop, opie-rdesktop and opie-alarm/ need EXTRA_QMAKEVARS_POST += "LIBS+=-lstdc++" |
| 08:40.54 | rob_w | are you a opie developer ? |
| 08:41.19 | alge | no, i just want to try both gpe and opie, after my kernel boots :-) |
| 08:42.05 | rob_w | i see |
| 08:43.42 | alge | there where some more changes necessary to build with oe, e.g esound does not create correct links to its libesd.so files, i had to create tmp/staging/arm-linux/lib/libesd.so -> libesd.so.0.2.28 and tmp/staging/arm-linux/lib/libesd.so.0 -> libesd.so.0.2.28 manually |
| 08:45.20 | rob_w | i bet opie is not so maintained currently then gpe |
| 08:46.28 | alge | esd was needed for gpe-image |
| 08:46.41 | rob_w | oh |
| 08:47.19 | alge | the problem was that it creates a recursive symlink tmp/staging/arm-linux/lib/libesd.so.0.2.28 -> libesd.so.0.2.28 |
| 08:49.37 | alge | another thing that happend during gpe-image build was, that i had to symlink: |
| 08:49.38 | alge | ln -sf /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket /home/users/alge/ba/tmp/staging/var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket |
| 08:49.39 | rob_w | hmm now also my freetype still is broken |
| 08:50.08 | rob_w | tmp/staging/arm-linux/lib/libfree |
| 08:50.09 | rob_w | type.so: undefined reference to `inflate' |
| 08:50.22 | alge | I dont remember that i had to fix this too, lets see ... |
| 08:52.28 | rob_w | hmm freetype-2.2.1-r1 is still not build .. maybe it took a older version and therefore misses some functions |
| 08:52.36 | alge | it does not find its libz.so |
| 08:52.51 | rob_w | yeah this i solved 5 minutes ago |
| 08:53.02 | alge | maybe also add -lz ? |
| 08:54.47 | alge | at least this didnt happen here, i cannot remember a missing inflate ... |
| 08:56.04 | rob_w | so u say inflate is a libz function ? |
| 08:56.50 | alge | it sound like one :-) |
| 08:57.08 | alge | and my ubuntu libfreetype is also linked with libz |
| 08:58.30 | alge | i686 linux: |
| 08:58.30 | alge | root@phi[linux]# nm /usr/lib/libz.a | grep inflate |
| 08:58.30 | alge | ... |
| 08:58.30 | alge | inflate.o: |
| 08:58.31 | alge | 00000270 T inflate |
| 09:00.19 | rob_w | hmm i rebuild zlib and libpng and pange still fails saying libpng misses inflate and some other functions |
| 09:00.32 | rob_w | s/pange/pango |
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| 09:01.15 | rob_w | did my zimage boot ? |
| 09:01.26 | alge | is -lz in the linker options? and a correct -L...staging... |
| 09:01.41 | alge | i m inserting the card ... now! |
| 09:02.34 | alge | it coul not reqad the startu.txt file, rewritung it ... |
| 09:02.56 | rob_w | new haret wants a default.txt !!! |
| 09:03.06 | alge | oh thanks. .. |
| 09:03.08 | rob_w | start haret and click on run |
| 09:03.15 | rob_w | and have that default.txt !! |
| 09:04.46 | alge | my default.txt now reads: |
| 09:04.46 | alge | set KERNEL "zImage-2.6.16-not-flicker" |
| 09:04.46 | alge | set MTYPE 766 |
| 09:04.47 | alge | set CMDLINE "root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 console=tty0 " |
| 09:04.47 | alge | bootlinux |
| 09:04.47 | alge | ok? |
| 09:04.57 | rob_w | yes |
| 09:05.53 | alge | ... haret.exe: |
| 09:06.05 | alge | unknown keyword: bootlinux |
| 09:08.16 | rob_w | damn all libz and libpng show inflate inside .. yet pango fails |
| 09:08.31 | rob_w | ah shit .. u need to have : |
| 09:08.50 | rob_w | boot2 |
| 09:09.00 | alge | ok |
| 09:09.57 | rob_w | tmp/staging/arm-linux/lib> nm libz.so | grep deflate |
| 09:09.57 | rob_w | 00003ff0 T deflate |
| 09:10.40 | alge | wow, it boots ... :-) |
| 09:10.46 | rob_w | yeah |
| 09:11.14 | alge | but i still want to be able to compile it myself ... ;-) |
| 09:11.57 | rob_w | sure |
| 09:12.18 | alge | ... now it starts the calibration, but the touch screen does not work, of course, there are my nonworking kernel modules in the rootfs |
| 09:12.56 | alge | lets see if i cann ssh in via usb ... |
| 09:13.56 | alge | ... no. |
| 09:15.15 | alge | ... if to leave now, lets try again later |
| 09:16.27 | alge | s/if/i have/ |
| 09:17.06 | rob_w | ok |
| 09:17.17 | rob_w | i use gcc-3.4.1 to compile the kernel |
| 09:17.53 | rob_w | i cant find where i downloaded that .. i will upload it to gnulinux.biz |
| 09:19.28 | alge | could you please also put your unpatched kernel tree, or at least the diff between original 2.6.16 tree and your unpatched trees there? |
| 09:20.16 | rob_w | which ,, the one i am working on ? |
| 09:20.51 | alge | where you apply your patch (or better: generate your patch from) |
| 09:21.19 | rob_w | ok that will take ages to upload but i will start right away |
| 09:21.49 | alge | you need only to upload the diff between kernel.org 2.6.16 and yours ... |
| 09:22.26 | rob_w | ok .. lemme see |
| 09:22.36 | rob_w | i hope i can have that quick .. |
| 09:23.17 | alge | tanks, bye, i'll be back in some hours , so dont hurry |
| 09:23.51 | rob_w | ok |
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| 11:58.25 | lilliput | hello guys |
| 11:59.06 | lilliput | got a mda pro wanted to put linux on it by the end of this afternoon |
| 12:02.53 | awelux | mda pro. what does that translate into by htc product names? |
| 12:04.02 | awelux | ah. universal |
| 12:04.12 | awelux | that shouldn't be to hard. |
| 12:06.21 | awelux | http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=35972&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=25 |
| 12:06.51 | awelux | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Universal_Installing_Linux |
| 12:07.52 | awelux | the biggest obstacle might be that you need an sd card which works under linux without additional tweaks. |
| 12:08.06 | awelux | Something like normal speed 1GB |
| 12:08.15 | awelux | or a mmc card |
| 12:08.40 | awelux | faster or bigger cards don't run well so far. |
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| 14:33.12 | rob_w | wb alge |
| 14:33.21 | maui | hello there ;) |
| 14:33.27 | rob_w | hey maui |
| 14:33.36 | maui | htc wizard development is starting: http://linwizard.sf.net ;) |
| 14:34.26 | rob_w | argh sf.net |
| 14:35.35 | awelux | maui, did you talk to silven ? |
| 14:35.47 | maui | i mailed him recently |
| 14:35.55 | awelux | He's done a lot of the existing wizard development. |
| 14:35.58 | awelux | good |
| 14:36.16 | maui | also contacted ithamar, an arm kernel developer employed by tomtom bv ;) |
| 14:36.33 | awelux | ic |
| 14:37.40 | awelux | the project is good news. the wizard development really needs some coordination. |
| 14:38.43 | maui | yep |
| 14:40.04 | maui | one question to those already running linux on their htc devices...is linux faster? |
| 14:40.20 | maui | i always think wm5 is somewhat fuzzy and slow |
| 14:40.49 | rob_w | maui, how would u compare wince with linux ?=? |
| 14:41.38 | maui | yeah i mean comparing pim functions for example (wince and opie) |
| 14:41.43 | maui | or general boot time ;) |
| 14:41.54 | rob_w | maui, very odd to do !! |
| 14:42.09 | rob_w | dont argue with the speed but with the features ! |
| 14:42.23 | maui | ok |
| 15:02.10 | maui | does someone know how to use losetup? |
| 15:02.25 | maui | i have to change my cc.ext2 |
| 15:05.45 | rob_w | cc.ext2 ? |
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| 15:50.41 | maui | cc.ext2 is the file containing the file system |
| 15:50.45 | maui | busybox etc. |
| 16:06.39 | awelux | Isn't it just losetup <loop device> <target device> ? |
| 16:07.32 | awelux | then you can just mount the loop device. |
| 16:07.47 | awelux | But it's easier to say just mount cc.ext /mnt -o loop |
| 16:12.03 | maui | thanks ;) it works now |
| 16:55.47 | lilliput | awelux, thx got a 512 mb one |
| 16:56.41 | lilliput | I also have a windows vmware image if needed to run microsoft sync stuff I going to have a go in about half an hour |
| 16:56.48 | awelux | that's plenty |
| 16:57.09 | awelux | I mean the 512mb |
| 16:58.47 | lilliput | if I am still right the phone/gprs/3g are still not working but the touch screen has been fixed ? |
| 16:58.56 | lilliput | I followed from far the dev |
| 17:00.03 | awelux | yes. the touch screen is working fine now |
| 17:01.06 | awelux | I suggest you create a backup of the current device and start working your way through the install description in the wiki |
| 17:01.45 | awelux | Linux on the universal is not a permanent solution right now but it's getting more and more interesting. |
| 17:16.43 | rob_w | ahh NOTE: package gpe-image-1.0-r20: task do_rootfs: started |
| 17:19.02 | alge | fine :-9 |
| 17:20.07 | alge | btw: has someone the documentation for the latest haret (that with the boot2 command)? |
| 17:20.07 | alge | i can only find sources for versions with the "bootlinux" command. |
| 17:21.34 | silven | alge: I think boot2 was introduced with gnu-haret. |
| 17:26.30 | alge | but he sources of gnu-haret at http://jornada820.sourceforge.net/files/ still have bootlinux and harett from handhelds.org cvs also has BOOTLINUX ... |
| 17:27.47 | silven | alge: gimme a sec. I'm checking the horrid mess that is my devel folder :) |
| 17:28.19 | awelux | alge, it's basically the same |
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| 17:28.49 | awelux | boot2 just uses a different way to load the kernel into the memory but it otherwise the same as bootlinus |
| 17:28.52 | awelux | bootlinux |
| 17:29.14 | awelux | if you have a telnet connection to haret you can type help to get a list of commands |
| 17:29.30 | awelux | in particular there are many more commands to dump hardware info. |
| 17:31.02 | alge | ok, i was mainly asking because i was unsure if i had to give anything more then "set INITRD ..." to et an initrd loaded ... which fails for me for some strange reason ... |
| 17:33.07 | silven | I have: set KERNEL "zImage" set MTYPE 6665 set INITRD "rd" set CMDLINE "root=/dev/ram0 init=/linuxrc" |
| 17:33.27 | silven | alge: what hardware are you on? |
| 17:34.19 | alge | blueangel, MTYPE 766 |
| 17:35.40 | alge | I have generally a problem ith my self compiled kernels, they cannot boot any root device. |
| 17:35.40 | alge | now I had some hope that i could write an initramfs with some helpful debug echos, but it doesnt load it. |
| 17:36.22 | silven | I've had some problems doing my own initrd's also. I'm not sure what is causing it though. |
| 17:37.49 | awelux | alge, some of the dump commands for hardware information will not work on the blueangel since they are very cpu specific. |
| 17:38.07 | alge | I already changed defconfig to have DEV_RAM + INITRD enabled, but even doesn not checkthe given initrd image. |
| 17:38.17 | awelux | But the boot2 command for booting should do fine. |
| 17:38.34 | alge | ok, |
| 17:39.17 | asylumed | which kernel version are you booting? |
| 17:39.21 | alge | btw: that telnet connection to haret works only from windows? |
| 17:39.28 | alge | 2.6.16 hh5 |
| 17:39.30 | silven | ?? |
| 17:39.34 | asylumed | works from linux too |
| 17:39.40 | asylumed | just did it a few min ago |
| 17:39.42 | silven | Works from linux for me. |
| 17:40.23 | asylumed | as long as the ppp0 connection is setup by the synce stuff.. |
| 17:40.38 | alge | when i plug the mda via usb a ipaq-somethging module loads, do i have to setup a ppp connection then? |
| 17:41.18 | alge | ok, synce, i tried it once but not seriously enough |
| 17:41.32 | asylumed | it should pop a new usb serial port in /dev/tts/ |
| 17:41.51 | asylumed | use synce-serial-config /dev/tts/USB0 (or similar) |
| 17:41.53 | alge | yes, this does apper |
| 17:42.08 | asylumed | start "dccm" (not as root) |
| 17:42.17 | alge | ok will try |
| 17:42.20 | asylumed | then run synce-serial-start (as root) |
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| 17:43.50 | silven | be right back.. gimme 1 sec. |
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| 18:08.37 | alge | hi, i'm back after my machine locked up :-( |
| 18:08.37 | alge | I have now a ttyUSB0 (from the ipaq module) and synce-serial running (pppd runs a synce-serial-chat) but thats it ... |
| 18:09.26 | asylumed | kewl... ya the ipaq modules pulled that one on me a while ago... |
| 18:10.36 | alge | do i have to start somethong on the wice side (beside that activesync thing running)? |
| 18:11.11 | alge | s/wice/wince/ |
| 18:11.30 | asylumed | nope... |
| 18:11.57 | asylumed | just telnet to 192.168.131.201 (or similar) |
| 18:13.01 | alge | but synce-serial-chat doesn't come to an end and no ppp device starts .. |
| 18:14.21 | asylumed | erm... dccm is running? |
| 18:14.39 | asylumed | it shouldn't end... (synce-serial-chat that is_ |
| 18:14.42 | alge | yes, without any arguments as normal user |
| 18:15.55 | alge | i'll restart it with -d 2 |
| 18:15.59 | asylumed | odd |
| 18:16.04 | asylumed | ya... |
| 18:19.21 | alge | ok it was a timing problem, i have to start synce-serial-start immeduitely after i power on the device |
| 18:22.28 | alge | ok, ping 192.168.131.201, but connection on port 9999 refused, despite haret running and saying "listening on 9999" |
| 18:22.58 | alge | ok that was a button ... :-) |
| 18:23.14 | alge | works now |
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| 18:26.58 | rob_w | ok i will have a new rootfs uploaded soon . .this has fixes to get touchscreen up_running |
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| 19:15.04 | rob_w | http://www.gnulinux.biz/files/blueangel/people/rob_w/sd/ now holds a bootable gpe image + touch working + files for gomunicator |
| 19:24.52 | alge | already tested (except gomunicator) -- works :-) |
| 19:25.25 | alge | even suspend/resume worked (but only once) |
| 19:28.38 | rob_w | only once ?? |
| 19:28.41 | rob_w | bah |
| 19:30.06 | alge | i suspended via menu-entry, not power-switch, resume was on power-switch, the next touch on power-switch locked it up |
| 19:30.46 | alge | i loaded htcbluangel_suspend manually before |
| 19:30.55 | rob_w | yeah thats the way |
| 19:31.51 | rob_w | maybe next time save a dmesg after a resume .. |
| 19:33.02 | alge | okay ... |
| 19:38.51 | alge | btw: gomunicator needs a libasound2 ipk for install. i'll try if i can take it from my oe deploy path |
| 19:39.52 | rob_w | it is uploaded also |
| 19:42.00 | alge | this time resume did not work, maybe i was to quick after suspend ... |
| 19:43.43 | alge | well i see it now (libasound2), guess it was there before ... :-) |
| 19:48.22 | rob_w | pheuw getting uda1380 sound on .16 will be tricky |
| 19:48.34 | alge | dmesg up to modprobe ba_suspend is at http://algepop.net/users/alge/dmesg-ba-modprobe-suspend |
| 19:52.01 | rob_w | i hate those alignment traps |
| 19:53.17 | alge | they remond me the time with my old alpha and digital unix :-) |
| 19:53.29 | alge | s/remond/remind/ |
| 20:01.31 | alge | gomunicator can make outgong calls, but no sound to be heared, (complains also about not beeing able to access mixer). |
| 20:01.31 | alge | no surprise, when no sound driver available or working |
| 20:04.50 | alge | I had to chmod 666 /dev/ttyS0, maybe the user should better be added to dialout. |
| 20:04.50 | alge | pam_groups could do things like that ...if it was in the gpe-image |
| 20:06.20 | rob_w | oe needs to handle that |
| 20:07.09 | rob_w | alge, how good is ur coding ? .. we need to align forces for uda1380 .. i just dont get it quick |
| 20:10.51 | alge | i'm not quite a kernel programmer, but i'm comfortable with gdb, strace and so on. |
| 20:10.51 | alge | let's see how i can help. |
| 20:10.51 | alge | but first i should setup my build environment properly ... i could use some nslu2 knowledge for my oe-for-xanadux setup, but currently i'm a little bit frustrated about my failing kernel complies ... ;-) |
| 20:11.19 | alge | s/complies/compiles/ |
| 20:15.42 | alge | next suspend run: suspend from menu, takes about 5 seconds ... resume works, i could write dmesg, tap the screen for ">" ...lockup |
| 20:15.59 | alge | i'll prepare a dmesg script with a short name ... |
| 20:17.13 | rob_w | ok ..i need beer |
| 20:18.21 | alge | btw. can i speed up this wince hard reset "move the zahnarzttermin" stuff somehow? i get bored of it ... but meanwhile i'm really quick :-) |
| 20:37.55 | alge | next trial after resume: my "dmesg >out" script segfaults after resume ... |
| 20:38.29 | alge | dmesg > out directly on the prompt kills the terminal |
| 20:43.25 | rob_w | i go tv .. cu all .. we need to work on uda1380 |
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