| 00:00.55 | Kevin2 | Hi pedro, I'm confused about the distinction between cegcc and mingw32ce. |
| 00:01.10 | pedro | Hi Kevin2 |
| 00:01.27 | Kevin2 | Is cegcc a unix environment under CE, where as mingw is just the toolchain under CE? |
| 00:01.50 | pedro | cegcc uses newlib, a libc for embedded devices. So it has a more complete C runtime. |
| 00:02.59 | pedro | With mingw, you will only have what the native runtime dlls support, i.e., no open/close/getenv/errno, those king of things. |
| 00:02.59 | pedro | kind of things. |
| 00:03.52 | Kevin2 | Okay. It sounds like I'm interested in the mingw one. I think HaRET is just using native calls. |
| 00:04.03 | pedro | with cegcc, you have an enhanced runtime, with a different set of runtime headers, that give you access to those things by providing an abstraction on top of win32. |
| 00:04.13 | pedro | Yes, I thing so to. |
| 00:04.26 | pedro | arg. think. |
| 00:05.31 | Kevin2 | Right now, haret is using the c++ compiler. I found that the VLC toolchain isn't calling C++ constructors on statically allocated objects. |
| 00:05.41 | pedro | usually when you have more than one typo per line, it means you need some sleep :) |
| 00:05.55 | Kevin2 | I could move the code to C, or I could try out cegcc. |
| 00:05.57 | pedro | You mean global instances? No prob, it is fixed. |
| 00:06.51 | pedro | If you apply my patch, or wait a bit (probably this weekend) mingw32ce will have c++ support. |
| 00:06.51 | Kevin2 | Okay, I just ran "svn co https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/cegcc cegcc" and it is going to town -- should I be using a different repository? |
| 00:07.21 | pedro | No, it is correct. |
| 00:08.13 | pedro | I never know: "it is going to town" is good or bad? |
| 00:08.30 | Kevin2 | Heh, I just meant it is transfering a whole lot of information. |
| 00:08.41 | pedro | Ah ok, not native, you know :) |
| 00:10.39 | pedro | use the src/build-mingw32ce.sh. It has default options, so just chdir into src/, type ./build-mingw32ce.sh, and go have a drink, it takes a while :) |
| 00:10.52 | Kevin2 | Okay. |
| 00:11.08 | Kevin2 | Hrmm. It is transfering both trunk/ and branches/. Do I need to do that? |
| 00:11.55 | pedro | Ah, no. "svn co https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/cegcc/trunk cegcc" instead. Blame sourceforge for making that the default. |
| 00:12.31 | pedro | That would get you I'm guessing around 3GB. |
| 00:14.53 | Kevin2 | Okay. I'm synched now. I'll take a look at building it. |
| 00:15.04 | Kevin2 | Do you have to apply the patch in order to build c++ apps? |
| 00:20.00 | pedro | Yes, I haven't applied it, because it needs cleaning up, it breaks cegcc (and every other gcc target). |
| 00:22.12 | pedro | Damn, sourceforge mail archives are still down. I will commit the patch into src/patches, or somewhere, and you can apply it yourself. What a sec. |
| 00:25.01 | pedro | Kevin2: Done, it is under src/patches/mingw.diff |
| 00:25.14 | pedro | It should be applied to src/gcc/libstdc++ |
| 00:26.36 | Kevin2 | Thanks |
| 00:29.26 | pedro | Bedtime now. Cheers. |
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