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| 15:02.35 | hedgehog | hey goxboxlive |
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| 19:21.54 | psokolovsky | Hi! |
| 19:22.08 | psokolovsky | oops! And where's cr2? |
| 19:22.42 | psokolovsky | <goxboxlive> and compare it with htcuniversal_bl.c ? |
| 19:22.44 | goxboxlive | he is not here |
| 19:22.54 | psokolovsky | nope, and compare with what before ;-) |
| 19:23.06 | psokolovsky | and before it was in h4000_lcd.c |
| 19:23.25 | goxboxlive | ok i c. I'll take a look at it. Do you have working sound? |
| 19:23.33 | psokolovsky | goxboxlive, yet better, please subscribe to kernel-discuss@hh.org to be in loop of all changes and RFCs |
| 19:23.58 | psokolovsky | goxboxlive, and then, have a look at the current archive, it is all described there in detail |
| 19:23.59 | goxboxlive | I am, but sometimes there is ust to much mail in my gmail account |
| 19:24.05 | goxboxlive | i will |
| 19:27.41 | psokolovsky | goxboxlive, it started here: http://handhelds.org/hypermail/kernel-discuss/17/1768.html |
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| 20:09.54 | NickBee | Hello All |
| 20:10.04 | goxboxlive | hi NickBee |
| 20:16.41 | NickBee | Hi Gox |
| 20:16.56 | NickBee | I need some help, if you have some time |
| 20:17.19 | lkcl_ | allo darlins. has anyone got idapro? |
| 20:18.05 | lkcl_ | my cd has got corrupted - i haven't used it for 2 years, and it can't be read in two different cd readers. |
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| 20:34.14 | goxboxlive | Nickbee , i am here. |
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| 21:13.24 | RoEn_ | gn8 |
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| 21:43.54 | goxboxlive | NickBee, what can i do? |
| 21:44.46 | NickBee | Gox, something is preventing linux to recognise the mmc card |
| 21:45.01 | NickBee | it says something like: unknown MMCA card ... |
| 21:45.12 | NickBee | wait let me give you exact message |
| 21:46.16 | NickBee | mmc0: card has unknows MMCA version 4 |
| 21:46.34 | NickBee | This message comes while linux is booting on universal |
| 21:46.59 | NickBee | once i login, i can't access the mmc card to fdisk it and put opie |
| 21:47.09 | NickBee | Any ideas what could be happening? |
| 21:47.18 | NickBee | or i need the latest zImage/RD ? |
| 21:47.33 | goxboxlive | NickBee, i guess u are using a image without UDEV |
| 21:47.56 | NickBee | Ok |
| 21:48.17 | NickBee | I downloaded the files off gnulinuz.biz |
| 21:48.17 | goxboxlive | No, you dont need RD on Universal, we run it from the SD card, and not using ramdisk |
| 21:48.29 | goxboxlive | i c |
| 21:48.30 | NickBee | aha |
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| 21:48.51 | NickBee | So where can i get the latest version for univ? |
| 21:48.54 | goxboxlive | Do you use linux to install opie on your SD card, or are you using Universal |
| 21:48.59 | NickBee | which does not needs the RD |
| 21:49.15 | goxboxlive | use, the ones at gnulinux.biz |
| 21:49.35 | NickBee | Thats the one i have, but they use RD, right? |
| 21:49.44 | goxboxlive | they are the once that work best for now.. Maybe use the one in the tmp folder, they are the newets one |
| 21:49.49 | goxboxlive | no |
| 21:50.04 | NickBee | Ok |
| 21:50.17 | goxboxlive | use one partition on your SD card as vfat, and put: |
| 21:50.37 | goxboxlive | zImage, default.txt and gnuharet.exe on it |
| 21:52.12 | goxboxlive | The second partition should be with ext3 or ext2 filesystem. And unpack Opie on to it with the following command ( cd in to root of the ext3/2 partition): tar jxvpf /path to opie.tar.bz2 ./ |
| 21:52.15 | goxboxlive | hi cr2 |
| 21:52.58 | cr2 | goxboxlive: modern sata hdds are shit ;-) |
| 21:53.07 | goxboxlive | :-) |
| 21:53.49 | cr2 | i run a 24x7 amd64 dual-cpu machine and the hdds are dying one after another. |
| 21:54.13 | NickBee | Hello cr2 |
| 21:54.15 | cr2 | thanks God i have raid1 now. |
| 21:54.15 | goxboxlive | I have some starnge problems with my desktop computer my self. There is some bad connection on the power or something. Sometimes when i just steo a little hard on the floor beside the computer it just freeze. |
| 21:54.44 | cr2 | a 250GB disk began producing errors today. |
| 21:55.01 | cr2 | hi NickBee |
| 21:55.06 | goxboxlive | not good |
| 21:55.22 | cr2 | now i run off the second disk, but need a replacement for the first one. |
| 21:55.44 | cr2 | 180+180+250. dead. :) |
| 21:55.56 | NickBee | Ok Gox, let me try with the ROM from tmp |
| 21:56.17 | NickBee | I hope they are not from our "Mobo Burner" experiment yesterday :) |
| 21:56.26 | cr2 | :) |
| 21:56.43 | goxboxlive | :-) no, they are old, just dont use the power module |
| 21:57.03 | goxboxlive | cr2: I checked ysterday, i have warranty until end of this month |
| 21:57.07 | NickBee | Whats the power module? |
| 21:57.14 | goxboxlive | htcuniversal_power |
| 21:57.37 | NickBee | Ok |
| 21:57.39 | goxboxlive | just unload it if it is loaded dureing boot ( modprobe -r htcuniversal_power) |
| 21:57.47 | NickBee | What happened with our lil exp yesterday? |
| 21:57.47 | cr2 | i have 3 scsi hdds (4GB) from 1994 and 7 9GB scsi disks (hw raid5) from 1997 and they run without errors ;) |
| 21:57.54 | cr2 | _power does not work. |
| 21:58.21 | cr2 | it does not have HI_POWER asic3 gpio included. |
| 21:58.32 | cr2 | and the w1 stuff is broken for some reason. |
| 21:58.59 | goxboxlive | cr2: I have sendt you an e-mail today wich explaines the backlight issue. |
| 21:59.00 | cr2 | so the data from ds2762 is wrong. |
| 21:59.41 | cr2 | goxboxlive: why is it called corgi_bl ??? |
| 21:59.52 | goxboxlive | yes |
| 22:00.37 | goxboxlive | it is psokolovsky who has re written or adpat it |
| 22:00.43 | goxboxlive | i guess |
| 22:01.38 | goxboxlive | why? read my mail and you will se |
| 22:01.49 | goxboxlive | http://handhelds.org/hypermail/kernel-discuss/17/1768.html |
| 22:05.55 | goxboxlive | psokolovsky told me that it should be easy to fix the driver, i guess he thought that even me could have done it, but i took a look at it, and i thought maybe there where other than that file and the universal_bl file that would need to be edited. So i actually gave up. |
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| 22:15.23 | lkcl_ | wotcha cr2 |
| 22:15.45 | lkcl_ | can you run idapro on that sable boot-file for me? |
| 22:28.34 | cr2 | lkcl_: ida pro demo works for arm. it just can't save the output. |
| 22:28.45 | cr2 | goxboxlive: ok. |
| 22:31.43 | cr2 | lkcl_: have you already run testWM5.exe ? |
| 22:35.15 | lkcl_ | i have a $500 license for ida pro 4.7 i ain't gonna be running no 'demo' |
| 22:35.26 | lkcl_ | testwm5.exe - nooo |
| 22:37.44 | psokolovsky | cr2: Hi! |
| 22:38.28 | psokolovsky | cr2: So, there's a proposal to reuse Zaurus' backlight driver which is already in mainline for HH.org ports |
| 22:39.24 | psokolovsky | cr2: The main reason is exactly that it makesz us clser to mainline, while make us accept litle compromises regarding functionality |
| 22:39.46 | psokolovsky | cr2: One compromise has to be done though - naming. it is named corgi |
| 22:40.43 | psokolovsky | corgi_bl though well, it's no longer true even for Zauri (all of them use this driver actually) |
| 22:40.55 | psokolovsky | we lieve fixing of that to mainline |
| 22:41.12 | psokolovsky | that's the deal |
| 22:41.28 | psokolovsky | for now, h400, h3900, h2200, magician have converted |
| 22:41.34 | psokolovsky | hx4700 waits final review |
| 22:41.47 | psokolovsky | you're welcome to join the party ;-) |
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| 22:41.57 | NickBee | Hello again |
| 22:42.25 | NickBee | Gox: I think the default i am using is wrong, on booting from SD it give kernel panix |
| 22:42.43 | NickBee | panic, saying some invalid init found |
| 22:42.53 | NickBee | One minute: give the exact message |
| 22:43.43 | cr2 | psokolovsky: ok :) |
| 22:44.17 | cr2 | psokolovsky: what do you think about the asic3_owm driver ? |
| 22:44.22 | NickBee | Ok here it is: kernel panic - not syncing: No init found. try passing init= option to kernel |
| 22:44.46 | psokolovsky | cr2: Nice! any of mentioned ports may server as sample, and many questions would be answered by that thread in ML |
| 22:44.49 | NickBee | the default file i have does not contains the init param |
| 22:45.43 | psokolovsky | cr2: I think it's n ncie idea, but I heard pH5 works on some grand unified driver at all. He posted about it, and even some code to kernel-discuss |
| 22:46.11 | cr2 | psokolovsky: another very painful thing is the tsc2046 touchscreen driver. can you look at htcuniversal_ts2.c (this is the old hx4700_ts driver) and tell me how to create an abstract inferface ? |
| 22:46.22 | cr2 | hmm. not asic3 ? |
| 22:46.31 | psokolovsky | cr2: h4000 doesn't seem to have owm, so I'm not expert with that, but I'm starting to hack with h3900/hx4700, so can help with testing/something |
| 22:46.46 | psokolovsky | cr2: will do |
| 22:47.07 | cr2 | we have (at least) 6 devices using tsc2046, and it is very colse to ads7846. |
| 22:47.10 | lkcl_ | heya where's testwm5 downloadable from? |
| 22:47.53 | psokolovsky | cr2: well, that's interesting even more |
| 22:48.32 | psokolovsky | cr2: did you have any positive experience with ads7846 driver from mainline? |
| 22:49.01 | cr2 | psokolovsky: i have looked at your asic3_owm driver patch you have posted. the only thing looking suspicious is the *-ex1 and *ex0 clocks. i'm not sure if it is correct for all asic3* devices, and not only hx4700. |
| 22:49.22 | cr2 | i have looked only at the datasheets of ads7846 and tsc2046. |
| 22:49.54 | lkcl_ | ads7846 - i vaguely recognise that. it's an NSSP device with an 8-bit control word innit? |
| 22:50.10 | psokolovsky | cr2: ok |
| 22:50.11 | lkcl_ | the tsc2200 driver i did has a 16-bit word size... |
| 22:50.26 | psokolovsky | lkcl_: SSP/SPI, 8/12 bit ;-) |
| 22:50.32 | lkcl_ | o yuk |
| 22:50.53 | lkcl_ | the thing i remember - which is a bitch - is that you must read exactly the same number of bytes that you write. |
| 22:51.15 | lkcl_ | and TI's documentation on the tsc2200 was misleading. |
| 22:51.25 | cr2 | lkcl_: use search at xda-dev. this program will dump the wince dlls as they are mapped. |
| 22:51.32 | lkcl_ | hurrah. |
| 22:51.46 | cr2 | tsc2046 can be used in 8bit mode, but wince always uses 24bit mode. |
| 22:52.02 | psokolovsky | ok gentlemen, have good day/night! |
| 22:52.47 | florian | psokolovsky: good night |
| 22:55.22 | cr2 | psokolovsky: good night. |
| 22:55.52 | cr2 | florian: i have tried to create a pseudo-C code to read mdoc g3 in raw mode. |
| 22:56.20 | florian | cr2: oh cool |
| 22:56.22 | cr2 | htc uses many undocumented registers ;-) |
| 22:56.50 | cr2 | is there a readonly jffs2 ? |
| 22:57.19 | cr2 | then we can just flash the image with wince tools. |
| 22:57.20 | lkcl_ | ARGH where's this damn program - why can't these people get organised and publish stuff like proper free software developers instead of propagating the irritating 'metoo' requests. |
| 22:58.10 | cr2 | but i see a problem coming here: when we use the raw mode, the data is overlayed with error correction stuff. |
| 22:58.24 | cr2 | lkcl_: it's windows world. |
| 22:58.38 | cr2 | lkcl_: but i have the source :) |
| 22:59.11 | cr2 | lkcl_: maybe we should simply include it in haret in some adapted form. |
| 22:59.48 | lkcl_ | ok finally i found his site - http://mamaich.uni.cc/wm_re/ |
| 22:59.51 | lkcl_ | brb... |
| 23:00.38 | florian | cr2: hmm... squashfs? |
| 23:00.43 | cr2 | hmm. it's not that program. |
| 23:01.24 | cr2 | florian: maybe it is not necessary, i.e. not enforced by g3 asic. |
| 23:07.49 | cr2 | lkcl_: i think it's this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=245594&highlight=testwm5.exe |
| 23:09.36 | lkcl_ | pain in the arse. it's called testwm5_132.rar so of _course_ google doesn't find it... arse! |
| 23:13.14 | lkcl_ | ok - got it. errr.... what's this 'button1'? :) |
| 23:13.23 | lkcl_ | i know - let's press it and find out! |
| 23:13.39 | lkcl_ | at least it's not marked 'end of world switch, on no account press this button...' |
| 23:13.53 | lkcl_ | brb... |
| 23:15.43 | Kevin2 | Hi |
| 23:16.17 | florian | hi Kevin2 |
| 23:17.27 | Kevin2 | cr2: Are you around? |
| 23:17.31 | Kevin2 | Hi florian |
| 23:18.32 | lkcl_ | ok dis taking a while.. it's got to tpcutil.dll so far.... wsp.dll... what exactly is this doing? :) |
| 23:20.08 | lkcl_ | hpwifi.dll.... |
| 23:20.12 | Kevin2 | Any haret users willing to run some tests? I'm looking to try out my latest binary on more platforms. I can only test on Apache. |
| 23:20.15 | lkcl_ | gps navigation.exe (wheee!) |
| 23:21.09 | lkcl_ | hello kevin2 - have a rather expensive ipaq hw6915 and if i do any damage i want it to be all my own work :) |
| 23:21.24 | lkcl_ | oooo DRMNNN.dll. bastards. |
| 23:22.44 | Kevin2 | lkcl_: The code has a reorg of the linboot code. Shouldn't be any more dangerous than current haret. But I understand if you're nervous. :-) |
| 23:23.43 | lkcl_ | oh. then you want to talk to cr2, see if you can get him to put it into gnuharet. |
| 23:25.25 | Kevin2 | Yeah, cr2 and I are in different timezones. The "watch interrupt" stuff in gnuharet is my code. It just takes some time for us to synch up. |
| 23:25.52 | lkcl_ | hurrah! well, he was around 15m ago so he's around :) |
| 23:26.16 | lkcl_ | am just running testwm5.exe at the moment.. |
| 23:26.23 | lkcl_ | it's taking bloody ages |
| 23:27.22 | cr2 | Kevin2: hi. |
| 23:27.57 | cr2 | i have looked at your patch, but i can't merge it in my local tree because i have a lot of changes. |
| 23:28.06 | cr2 | 2 questions: |
| 23:28.25 | cr2 | 1. why do you need the preloader ? |
| 23:30.15 | cr2 | 2. what do you think about such a way of booting linux: allocphysmem, put the zimage there, put the 'jump to zimage start' asm at 0xa0040000, goto sleep, press resume button, the IPL jumps at 0xa0040000 and then to zimage. sounds reasonable ? |
| 23:30.18 | Kevin2 | The preloader moves the tag section to the top of memory. It wont work unless it is relocated. I don't need to bounce the preloader to the top of memory, but it seems safer. |
| 23:31.04 | cr2 | zimage is position-independent code afaik ? |
| 23:31.28 | Kevin2 | It is, but the tags and initrd are not. |
| 23:31.41 | cr2 | ok. initrd is evil. |
| 23:31.50 | lkcl_ | ok am gonna let wm2 run around like a mad thing - it's been 30 mins so far and i'm getting bored :) later folks |
| 23:31.51 | cr2 | but the tags... |
| 23:32.16 | Kevin2 | We can have resume jump into zimage, but it isn't difficult to jump directly into zimage and a bit more portable I'd imagine. |
| 23:32.55 | cr2 | yes, but it's an easy way to test the resume too. |
| 23:33.39 | cr2 | hmm. so the tags must be at 0xa0000000 ? |
| 23:34.08 | Kevin2 | I don't know if they must be there, but if I just leave them at a random place, it does not work. |
| 23:34.09 | cr2 | wince kernel saves something there, but we probably don't care. |
| 23:34.56 | cr2 | the tags are loaded 16K below the kernel, but i forgot the exact details. |
| 23:35.01 | Kevin2 | Can you try booting linux on the Universal with the haret binary from svn (or compile it yourself)? I got a report from goxboxlive that it didn't work, but I don't know why. |
| 23:35.38 | Kevin2 | I've also added early bootup logging to my version. (One creates a file "earlyharetlog.txt" and it causes a file "haretlog.txt" to be created with log messages.) |
| 23:35.38 | cr2 | i'll try. |
| 23:39.56 | cr2 | "found machine HTC Universal" |
| 23:40.55 | Kevin2 | Does the "boot" work? |
| 23:41.06 | Kevin2 | Can you boot linux? |
| 23:41.33 | cr2 | don't know. need to adapt the startup file. |
| 23:41.44 | Kevin2 | why? |
| 23:43.13 | cr2 | i use a custom startup for haret tracing. didn't boot linux for some time. |
| 23:46.03 | Kevin2 | Hrmm. I was just thinking, we could have a "boot_on_resume" command that loads the kernel/initrd/tags/preloader into phys ram, but instead of turning off the hardware and jumping to the preloader, we could bind the reset vector to jump to the preloader. |
| 23:46.52 | Kevin2 | That might be safer (on some platforms) than trying to directly disable hardware. It would also be a useful test of linux on a resume scenario (like you said). It wouldn't be a true test, because we don't normally do a full uncompress on resume, but it would be pretty good. |
| 23:48.39 | cr2 | agreed. |
| 23:49.20 | Kevin2 | Only problem is testing it. I'm sure it wont work on apache, because I don't have the code to enable the lcd yet. |
| 23:50.14 | cr2 | the resume sequence on apache and universal is very simple (and the same), so it should work. |
| 23:51.17 | Kevin2 | I found a power-down sequence on the "micro controller" chip that the apache uses. I'm pretty sure it wont work unless I run the equivalent power-up sequence. I haven't yet written the kernel driver for this i2c like chip. |
| 23:53.09 | lkcl_ | ok dis program exited now - what damage has it done? :) |
| 23:53.32 | cr2 | Kevin2: it does not run the script. |
| 23:54.00 | cr2 | lkcl_: no damage. can you post the file list somewhere (Modules subdir) ? |
| 23:54.39 | lkcl_ | sure - what file am i looking for? |
| 23:55.21 | Kevin2 | cr2: Can you forward the logs? Either by running the commands over telnet or adding a "LOG file" command to the script. |
| 23:55.23 | lkcl_ | oh - you just want a list of the files _in_ the Module subdir? |
| 23:55.37 | cr2 | lkcl_: yes. |
| 23:55.40 | lkcl_ | ack |
| 23:56.04 | cr2 | Kevin2: i use GUI, and press the "Run" button. nothing happens. |
| 23:56.28 | cr2 | haret works. dump asic3 and so on. |
| 23:57.18 | Kevin2 | Oh, that is odd. I always tested via telnet. I'll look into it. |
| 23:58.32 | lkcl_ | http://hands.com/~lkcl/hp6915/test_wm5_dump_modules_list.txt |