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| 14:07.06 | lkcl | heya folks what's with building unlockextrom.cpp, what's with the build errors? where can i get standard c++ headers such as <string> for msvc-arm, anyone know |
| 14:08.26 | cr2 | lkcl: you know the password ? |
| 14:08.35 | lkcl | no, but i'm going to guess. |
| 14:08.55 | cr2 | why msvc-arm ? |
| 14:09.26 | lkcl | cos that's what i have? :) |
| 14:09.47 | lkcl | it's what's in the original Makefile. |
| 14:09.50 | lkcl | hm... good poing. |
| 14:09.52 | lkcl | point |
| 14:10.39 | cr2 | afaik it's just some ttfs ioctl. |
| 14:10.45 | lkcl | you got a version of unlockextrom that compiles with arm-gcc already? |
| 14:10.48 | lkcl | yeh. |
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| 14:11.23 | cr2 | no, i was concerned about distributing the m-sys header file |
| 14:12.04 | lkcl | there's two ioctls. |
| 14:13.31 | lkcl | oh did you see the gps stuff? it's binary data, all right. |
| 14:13.47 | cr2 | i think you can better strip weird c++ stuff from the file. |
| 14:14.10 | cr2 | yeah, i wonder what will be the response from GL. |
| 14:14.16 | lkcl | *sigh* yehh... |
| 14:14.29 | cr2 | i guess you will not get anything :) |
| 14:14.46 | cr2 | "thanks for your interest in GL products ;)" |
| 14:15.07 | lkcl | well, my message was carefully worded to give them an opportunity to help us - namely to make it a PR exercise. |
| 14:16.44 | cr2 | c++ is only for the command line arg parsing there. leave the passwords out, and create a new haret function of it :) |
| 14:16.45 | lkcl | i carefully didn't mention that i would put notes all over the forums that i can that if they _didn't_ help then that would also become a PR exercise |
| 14:16.46 | lkcl | bad PR. |
| 14:17.07 | cr2 | ok. let's wait and see. |
| 14:17.33 | cr2 | we don't actually need to put the pdf docs on the web. |
| 14:17.57 | psokolovsky_ | Hi! |
| 14:18.12 | cr2 | ati was quite cooperative some time ago on the old radeon docs under such conditions. |
| 14:18.23 | cr2 | psokolovsky_: hi. |
| 14:18.24 | psokolovsky_ | lkcl, lol. My bet: you won't get response at all. That's *PR* ;-E |
| 14:18.44 | lkcl | :) |
| 14:19.30 | cr2 | psokolovsky_: i see an urgent need in creating the clock "manager" in asic3_base |
| 14:19.43 | cr2 | with spinlocks and refcounts. |
| 14:19.47 | psokolovsky_ | cr2, go for it ;-) |
| 14:19.54 | lkcl | btw cr2 any luck with testwm5? |
| 14:20.26 | lkcl | oh - and i contacted that guy pierrox who does the eten g500 and he dropped by to say hello. he needs help with the mmc. |
| 14:20.44 | cr2 | lkcl: Kevin2 immediately spotted a bug in the code. i'll run a test today. and we need to clean up the header file. |
| 14:20.53 | lkcl | hurrah! |
| 14:21.44 | cr2 | psokolovsky_: i have another burning broblem, with the battery/charging asic3_owm stuff. the first batteries are already dying... |
| 14:22.26 | cr2 | so i can't really take care of the code cleanness right now. |
| 14:22.27 | psokolovsky_ | cr2: what you mean? dying from driver? |
| 14:22.39 | lkcl | cr2: is the code in xanadux or hh.org cvs? |
| 14:23.53 | cr2 | psokolovsky_: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=251584&page=127 |
| 14:24.02 | cr2 | lkcl: which code ? |
| 14:24.06 | lkcl | testwm5 |
| 14:24.32 | cr2 | lkcl: i got it indirectly from the author |
| 14:24.44 | cr2 | wait a bit. |
| 14:25.03 | lkcl | and he's not released it under a free software license? |
| 14:25.31 | cr2 | he does not care, he lives in Russia. |
| 14:26.12 | lkcl | ah :) |
| 14:26.31 | lkcl | well there _are_ russian kernel developers |
| 14:26.59 | cr2 | he is not one of them. he has different interests. |
| 14:29.07 | cr2 | so he does not care about such minor nuisance as "intellectual property". |
| 14:29.52 | cr2 | will be back in an hour. |
| 14:30.22 | Fossi | well, if he states that, i guess that would mean his work is public domain |
| 14:30.28 | lkcl | ack dude |
| 14:30.33 | psokolovsky_ | cr2, well, I couldn't get much from last 2 pages of that thread. People get batteries not keeping charge for long, they start to suspect linux, etc. So what? ;-) |
| 14:31.11 | lkcl | no, it's still his copyright, fossi. |
| 14:31.49 | lkcl | well then the other option is to ask him if he can dual-assign copyright to you, cr2. |
| 14:34.44 | psokolovsky_ | cr2, all in all, if you have that asic3_owm working and need it in CVS, sure, cleanup can be handled later. Programming is conatnt refactors/cleanups anyway ;-) |
| 14:44.32 | Fossi | lkcl: in germany you also always have the 'urheberrecht', you can't sign it over to anyone |
| 14:44.58 | Fossi | which doesn't mean you can't give up the 'copyright' |
| 14:46.15 | Fossi | and if somebody says: here, take it, i don't care about licenses, i guess that's another way of saying: do whatever you want |
| 14:46.25 | Fossi | which is more or less the same than public domain |
| 14:46.33 | Fossi | s/than/as/ |
| 14:46.50 | Fossi | heh, funny bot ;D |
| 14:47.04 | Fossi | anyway afk |
| 14:50.17 | lkcl | sounds fun |
| 14:51.11 | lkcl | anyway i'm going to trace the asic3 when doing gsm init which sounds like an odd thing to do but not really cos wasic3gpio is too inaccurate for my liking |
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| 14:58.42 | TripleDES | hi |
| 15:06.42 | lkcl | allo tripldes |
| 15:07.23 | lkcl | ok folks i managed to do a combined wasic3gpio _and_ a wi with gnuharet on ports 9998 and 9999. i at least got the btuart interrupts but no trace data |
| 15:08.50 | lkcl | oops reboot time :) |
| 15:10.33 | lkcl | oh arse it's as i suspected: btuart data is sent to the gsm phone in between some of the GPIO and ASIC3 pull-ups. |
| 15:12.06 | lkcl | that's gonna be _real_ awkward to code up. |
| 15:13.47 | cr2 | lkcl: Kevin2 sez you can extend the 'wi' code to dump the pxa/asic3 gpio state too. but you need to buffer this data, because you can |
| 15:14.05 | cr2 | 't just output it at the same time in the irq handler. |
| 15:15.33 | cr2 | lkcl: i have uploaded a haret binary at the usual location. try the 'lswin' command, but be sure that you have 100MB free on your SD card. |
| 15:16.52 | lkcl | ack dude |
| 15:16.59 | lkcl | oh cool. |
| 15:17.52 | cr2 | psokolovsky_: i have found one more undocumented asic3 clock bit (in the battery.dll), and need to look more close at the asm code. |
| 15:18.15 | psokolovsky_ | cr2, nice, good finding |
| 15:18.50 | cr2 | btw, there was a battery /proc "dumper" in the ipaq 2.4 code. is it completely dumped now ? |
| 15:20.02 | cr2 | there was a "battery learning" code somewhere for some handheld. anybody knows which one ? |
| 15:20.24 | cr2 | for ds276x or course. |
| 15:22.16 | TripleDES | I only know about this one: http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/battery_20learning_20_28hp55xx_29 |
| 15:22.22 | TripleDES | :) |
| 15:24.14 | lkcl | cr2: this one? http://jornada820.sourceforge.net/files/haret/gnuharet-200611061456.exe |
| 15:24.14 | cr2 | TripleDES: thanks. /proc/asic/battery, that's what i've meant. h3600 |
| 15:24.46 | cr2 | gnuharet-200611131616.exe |
| 15:25.02 | cr2 | i'll remove the old versions. |
| 15:25.07 | lkcl | ack |
| 15:25.26 | TripleDES | np :) |
| 15:26.00 | cr2 | ok. |
| 15:27.09 | cr2 | TripleDES: i don't believe that htc has changed the eeprom layout. i've dumped and decoded some data by hand, it looked reasonable. i think i'll add the dumper to the code, so we can gather statistics about our batteries. |
| 15:28.13 | psokolovsky_ | cr2, now, we have battery classdev. as for "battery learning" for li-on batts, I guess, that's from area of hi-tech legends. or vendors are real assholes fi they can't do that in hw right. |
| 15:29.41 | cr2 | psokolovsky_: this data is used for the wince battery monitor, i'd like to know the translation tables and how to reset the eeprom data properly. |
| 15:29.56 | lkcl | wheeeeeeeeeeee :) |
| 15:30.30 | lkcl | off we gooo |
| 15:30.33 | psokolovsky_ | cr2, well, I just hope it works now the same way as it used to for h3600. but I wouldn't be surpised if it doens't, that's all I can say ;-I |
| 15:30.34 | lkcl | zzzzzz.... |
| 15:30.59 | psokolovsky_ | lkcl, first call? ;-) |
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| 15:31.17 | lkcl | oh - no - just dumping the entire wince dll set onto the sdcard |
| 15:31.29 | lkcl | it's going to take about 20 mins... |
| 15:31.55 | lkcl | i should have done the btuart dump, first. oh well. |
| 15:32.32 | lkcl | cr2 that's a _lot_ of shit on this device :) |
| 15:32.43 | cr2 | psokolovsky_: the hx4700 _power driver includes some constants, and it's unclear where do they come from and if they are the same on universal. my empirical observations need to be translated into these contstants. |
| 15:33.01 | cr2 | lkcl: tell me if it finishes :) without crashing. |
| 15:33.23 | cr2 | it's true, there is a lot of crap in the wince rom. |
| 15:33.30 | lkcl | so far so good.... only thing is i got to keep ping running to wake up the device OOPS it just crashed |
| 15:33.35 | psokolovsky_ | cr2, if someone would just find w1 chip in my h4000 I'd be glad to join in with raid. sigh |
| 15:33.45 | lkcl | found filenam wmdrm.dll |
| 15:33.45 | lkcl | LoadLibraryEx hmod=9301f498 \Windows\wmdrm.dll |
| 15:33.45 | lkcl | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:33.55 | lkcl | \Storage Card\Dump\Modules\wmdrm.dll: memcpy from ptr=7fc81000 size=217088 pages=53 |
| 15:33.55 | lkcl | Connection closed by foreign host. |
| 15:33.55 | lkcl | highfield:/mnt/sdcard# |
| 15:34.33 | lkcl | or better: |
| 15:34.35 | lkcl | LoadLibraryEx hmod=9301f498 \Windows\wmdrm.dll |
| 15:34.35 | lkcl | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:34.35 | lkcl | \Storage Card\Dump\Modules\wmdrm.dll: ptr=7fc70000/01d70000 off=00009d98 size=282624/286720 |
| 15:34.35 | lkcl | \Storage Card\Dump\Modules\wmdrm.dll: memcpy from ptr=7fc71000 size=282624 pages=69 |
| 15:34.39 | lkcl | ... |
| 15:34.40 | lkcl | ... |
| 15:34.50 | lkcl | \Storage Card\Dump\Modules\wmdrm.dll: memcpy from ptr=7fc7f000 size=225280 pages=55 |
| 15:34.50 | lkcl | \Storage Card\Dump\Modules\wmdrm.dll: memcpy from ptr=7fc80000 size=221184 pages=54 |
| 15:34.50 | lkcl | \Storage Card\Dump\Modules\wmdrm.dll: memcpy from ptr=7fc81000 size=217088 pages=53 |
| 15:34.50 | lkcl | Connection closed by foreign host. |
| 15:35.07 | cr2 | psokolovsky_: blueangel has owm, but is not using it. |
| 15:35.36 | cr2 | lkcl: hmm. this code needs more refinement, obviously. |
| 15:35.58 | lkcl | ok. for now, can you add arguments to specifically look for individual files? |
| 15:36.14 | lkcl | so we can get nk.exe, rilgsm and wavemon or whatever it is? |
| 15:36.57 | cr2 | i can try to hardcode them. the string parser in haret is a real hell |
| 15:37.43 | lkcl | o joy |
| 15:37.50 | lkcl | oh _that_. |
| 15:38.50 | cr2 | ok, get gnuharet-200611131638.exe |
| 15:40.08 | lkcl | oh xxxx-ing _great_. it's YET ANOTHER xxxxing format. this time it's 0x2 followed by a length byte followed by the data. |
| 15:41.24 | lkcl | actually it's slightly worse than that: 0x2 length 0x0 0x81/0x82 0x0 ATcommands |
| 15:42.11 | lkcl | and unfortunately i can't get the outgoing data because of course BTUART 'write' address is write-only :) |
| 15:42.40 | cr2 | lkcl: with 'wi' ??? |
| 15:42.46 | lkcl | yes with wi :) |
| 15:42.52 | lkcl | hehe |
| 15:43.04 | cr2 | why ? i see all reads/writes. |
| 15:43.17 | cr2 | and the dumped stuff makes sense. |
| 15:43.31 | lkcl | it's.... oh yes, you're absolutely right. i was looking at the wrong address :) |
| 15:43.32 | cr2 | my btuart is actual bt :) |
| 15:43.46 | lkcl | ooo |
| 15:43.53 | cr2 | lkcl: is GL a software-only company ? |
| 15:44.06 | lkcl | GL? you mean globallocate? |
| 15:44.12 | lkcl | i think it's their own chip. |
| 15:45.57 | cr2 | A non-real time command and response packet protocol is used for communications between the GL-20000 and the handset or mobile wireless device host processor. |
| 15:46.14 | cr2 | it has serial/i2c/spi |
| 15:46.38 | lkcl | yep. that means the data is captured in realtime and then it's sent later. there's stuff about buffering. |
| 15:46.48 | cr2 | we can be lucky, so the actual data packets will be transmitted over spi. |
| 15:46.52 | lkcl | also looking at the strings in the gps.dll there is a timestamp. |
| 15:46.53 | lkcl | yes. |
| 15:46.59 | lkcl | and a crc32 on the timestamp. |
| 15:47.09 | cr2 | yes, i've seen it. |
| 15:47.24 | lkcl | so basically you send commands 'give me data' and it will send back what it's buffered. |
| 15:47.33 | lkcl | you get the idea |
| 15:47.43 | lkcl | ok i have an atdbg0 to decode... |
| 15:47.53 | cr2 | and they call RIL_DevSpecific to get the useful GSM details. |
| 15:47.58 | lkcl | joy! |
| 15:48.14 | cr2 | so you should run atdbg with GPS on and off. |
| 15:48.51 | cr2 | so you'll know what commands are sent by gps, without messing with the dll. |
| 15:49.11 | lkcl | eriksson???? |
| 15:49.29 | lkcl | eriksson????? |
| 15:49.30 | cr2 | huh? |
| 15:49.46 | lkcl | it's an eriksson mobile platform device :) |
| 15:50.13 | cr2 | don't get it :) |
| 15:50.14 | lkcl | ok that gsm details is to get the ephemeris from the cell base-station |
| 15:50.26 | lkcl | 16:43:8 Rx:+CFUN: 1\r\n0\r |
| 15:50.26 | lkcl | 16:43:8 Tx:AT+CGMI;+CGMM;+CGMR;+CGSN\r |
| 15:50.26 | lkcl | 16:43:8 Rx:Ericsson\r\n |
| 15:50.26 | lkcl | 16:43:8 Rx:Ericsson Mobile Platform\r\n |
| 15:50.27 | lkcl | 16:43:8 Rx:2006-05-18 17:49 PAUL_HU cxc1325585_coppercompact_PHONE\r\n |
| 15:50.29 | lkcl | 16:43:8 Rx:357533000084235\r\n |
| 15:50.57 | cr2 | wow. |
| 15:51.16 | cr2 | now correlate it with the 'wi' data ;-) |
| 15:51.20 | lkcl | Ril_DevSpecific will be used to query the cell base-station details. from what i can gather, the cell base-station contains its geo latitude? (ephemeris) |
| 15:51.24 | lkcl | ha ha very funny cr2 |
| 15:52.08 | lkcl | if you get the ephemeris, and tell the GPS what that is, it makes it possible to lock-on, even in very low signal situations, _really_ quickly. |
| 15:52.18 | cr2 | lkcl: yes, but these are also just AT*foo commands. |
| 15:52.26 | lkcl | yep. |
| 15:52.32 | cr2 | vendor-specific. |
| 15:52.34 | lkcl | this is going to be fuuuun! |
| 15:53.30 | cr2 | yeah, i know. the provider can also broadacst the ephemeric. for $$$, or course. |
| 15:54.06 | cr2 | ephemeris is the sat position database. |
| 15:54.43 | cr2 | some celltowers also broadcast their coordinates. this is the case at least with O2 in Germany. |
| 15:55.05 | lkcl | which is only sent at 50 bits per second on the gps satellite thingy and that can get lost as noise in low-signal situations. |
| 15:55.44 | lkcl | the LN22+GL20000 quite happily locked on really quickly through my kitchen window! |
| 15:55.48 | cr2 | yes, it's better when you can get it as a cell broadcast. or gprs/umts. |
| 15:56.01 | lkcl | ok. lemme go decode this btuart data |
| 15:56.56 | cr2 | http://www.ericsson.com/de/presse/news/archiv_2003/id_427.shtml |
| 15:57.05 | cr2 | but it's on german. |
| 15:57.20 | cr2 | s/ on / in / |
| 15:58.22 | cr2 | htc has licensed this tech from eriksson. |
| 15:59.07 | cr2 | so it's probably not the "real" eriksson. |
| 15:59.35 | cr2 | http://www.ericsson.com/solutions/mobile_platforms |
| 16:01.01 | cr2 | ok. found it |
| 16:01.04 | cr2 | http://www.ericsson.com/ericsson/press/releases/20030618-908277.shtml |
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| 16:03.06 | rob_w | oh my wife |
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| 16:03.37 | lkcl | o xxxing great. there's an intitialisation sequence you sent 0x00 0x03 0x01 0xd2 0x02 to the damn phone. |
| 16:04.45 | lkcl | how _is_ your wife, rob_w? |
| 16:05.09 | rob_w | hmm she just went online ,, |
| 16:07.43 | lkcl | ahh. is that a good thing? or does she have your credit cards? |
| 16:08.48 | lkcl | http://hands.com/~lkcl/hp6915/gsm.trace.raw.txt |
| 16:10.30 | cr2 | lklc: so each AT command is prefixed by "02 0c 00 81 00" ? |
| 16:13.52 | lkcl | no not quite. |
| 16:14.01 | lkcl | 0x02 is the 'starter'. |
| 16:14.08 | lkcl | followed by a 16-bit LSB length. |
| 16:14.53 | lkcl | followed by a command: 0x00 and 0x81 have been seen so far, but there is _one_ response with a 0x82 which is a surprise. |
| 16:15.06 | lkcl | if you have a 0x81 'command', _then_ you get AT data. |
| 16:15.12 | cr2 | ok. |
| 16:15.22 | lkcl | also the 0x82 response (unsolicited, it seems) also contains AT data. |
| 16:15.39 | lkcl | hurrah! multiplexing for dummies! |
| 16:15.48 | cr2 | does it have something to do with TS7.10, or how it is called ? |
| 16:17.21 | lkcl | o god i hope not. |
| 16:17.26 | cr2 | http://www.xs4all.nl/~itsme/projects/xda/serial-protocols.html |
| 16:17.39 | cr2 | it also starts with 0x2 |
| 16:18.17 | cr2 | 02 16 "AT-Command Interpreter ready\r\n" 02 |
| 16:18.30 | lkcl | nope not that one. that's RIL. this is different. |
| 16:18.53 | lkcl | 1sec need to find ts7.10 again. mux_cli for motorola |
| 16:18.57 | cr2 | ok, but a similar idea. |
| 16:18.59 | cr2 | yes. |
| 16:20.16 | lkcl | nope. not mux_cli either. |
| 16:20.21 | lkcl | o god. |
| 16:20.44 | cr2 | AT*Version |
| 16:20.51 | cr2 | GDFS ? what's that ? |
| 16:21.02 | cr2 | GDFS |
| 16:21.26 | lkcl | clueless :) |
| 16:22.01 | lkcl | global distributed file system? |
| 16:22.08 | lkcl | graphical data fusion system? |
| 16:22.36 | cr2 | :) |
| 16:22.39 | lkcl | http://forums.mobiledia.com/topic18269.html |
| 16:22.52 | lkcl | erminator Dongle is a piece of hardware that goes along with software called DIV. The phone you are trying to unlock is connected through the dongle to computer's LPT/Printer port. |
| 16:22.52 | lkcl | It can perform the following functions: |
| 16:22.52 | lkcl | AVR/ARM/GDFS flashing |
| 16:23.13 | cr2 | lkcl: remove your imei from the log. it's bad practice. |
| 16:23.19 | lkcl | que? |
| 16:23.24 | lkcl | what's an imei? |
| 16:23.32 | cr2 | something ericsson-related ? |
| 16:23.42 | cr2 | imei is the hw id of your phone. |
| 16:23.47 | lkcl | o right |
| 16:23.51 | lkcl | yeh |
| 16:24.15 | lkcl | The third area is the GDFS area. This area contains things like the default pictures and themes that come with the phone. Vodafone also put their own stuff in here, filling the phone up with images, sounds and themes you can't remove (because they're "predefined"). It also contains the locked WAP Profiles and links |
| 16:24.19 | cr2 | at+cimi command. |
| 16:24.42 | cr2 | sounds like shit :) |
| 16:25.44 | lkcl | o absofrigginlutely - especially cos this is a mobile-platform device, not an actual mobile phone. i mean, what the xxxx are we gonna do with 'default pictures' when this is a damn smartphone for xxxx's sake?? |
| 16:25.47 | lkcl | sorry. |
| 16:29.23 | cr2 | lkcl: are there "radio" updates for sable ? i think yes. |
| 16:29.34 | lkcl | probably... |
| 16:29.55 | cr2 | then htc should have a mechanism for uploading stuff to the "phone". |
| 16:30.21 | cr2 | a case for our xda-dev friends. |
| 16:30.52 | Fossi | what can you do i you know my imei? |
| 16:31.05 | Fossi | s/ i /if |
| 16:31.18 | Fossi | s/ i / if / |
| 16:31.29 | Fossi | um, yeah, you know ;) |
| 16:31.38 | cr2 | Fossi: some phones can be reflashed, afaik. |
| 16:31.51 | Fossi | and then? |
| 16:32.15 | lkcl | yep. something bootloader-like. o btw the sable bootloader is a piece of shit. they've removed the wordy commands and replaced them with numbers. so there's a set command and an info command that take a hexadecimal number. xxxxers. |
| 16:32.59 | lkcl | just means that decoding the bootloader means working backwards from gpio accesses :) |
| 16:33.21 | lkcl | i never _did_ look at the command strings when decoding the himalaya bootloader :) |
| 16:33.41 | lkcl | hey, you htc people, you hear that?? |
| 16:34.32 | lkcl | linux rules your world, you guys - and be grateful. microsoft is going to xxxx you over one day (well, they already have by charging you for ril/gsm royalties and it will only get worse) |
| 16:40.45 | cr2 | Fossi: then the big brother will watch YOU http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/80945 |
| 16:41.33 | cr2 | because each imei is linked to the actual person with name, address and birth date. |
| 16:48.25 | Fossi | well i guess they (police) can get it anyway |
| 16:48.34 | Fossi | if a judge says so |
| 16:49.44 | cr2 | Fossi: i mean, somebody can do evil things with your number flashed, and you may become big problems. |
| 16:50.45 | Fossi | hmmm. so it's supposed to be secret? |
| 16:50.48 | Fossi | can't you snoop it from traffic anyway? |
| 16:54.21 | cr2 | you can snoop many things, but i'd consider imei as some kind of the personal information, that should not be disclosed "just for fun". that's why i have written "it is bad practice" :) |
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| 17:38.35 | scatterp | any one know a good tool to partition sd cards in windows ? |
| 17:45.09 | lkcl | scatterp: use a linux rescue live-bootable-business-card cd. fuck windows. |
| 17:45.34 | scatterp | tryed 2 of then |
| 17:45.37 | scatterp | tryed 2 of them |
| 17:45.42 | lkcl | windows cannot be taken seriously for any kind of development. |
| 17:45.53 | lkcl | did you try kubuntu 6.0.6? |
| 17:46.03 | lkcl | you _could_ just actually install linux on your computer! |
| 17:46.06 | scatterp | traveled over 100 miles today to buy a new card reader on the offchance it helps too |
| 17:46.23 | lkcl | he he |
| 17:46.24 | scatterp | no i tryed with knopix and live cd linux |
| 17:46.35 | scatterp | with 2 diffrent card readers |
| 17:47.23 | lkcl | thinking about it, i'd be very surprised if live-boot-cds ... well, maybe... you want to modprobe usb-serial and then check /dev/sd* |
| 17:47.37 | scatterp | did that |
| 17:47.45 | lkcl | but anyway. if you install a decent (and recent) debian-based version of linux, dual-boot, you should be ok. |
| 17:47.46 | scatterp | with knopix i actualy saw results there |
| 17:47.52 | scatterp | but i couldnt fdisk any of them |
| 17:47.52 | lkcl | what does lsusb show? |
| 17:48.21 | scatterp | ftub |
| 17:48.26 | scatterp | i think it was |
| 17:48.31 | lkcl | did an sda1 sda2 etc. show up? |
| 17:48.35 | scatterp | yes |
| 17:48.43 | lkcl | ok then that worked! |
| 17:48.57 | scatterp | not when i asked it to fdisk it didnt :( |
| 17:49.02 | scatterp | or when i tryed to mount |
| 17:49.02 | lkcl | then you have two partitions on there, and you need to run fdisk /dev/sda |
| 17:49.11 | lkcl | not fdisk /dev/sda1 of course. |
| 17:49.13 | scatterp | tryed it |
| 17:49.22 | scatterp | actualy i tryed |
| 17:49.25 | lkcl | and also you need to double-check that the partition isn't already mounted (automatically) |
| 17:49.28 | scatterp | 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 |
| 17:49.30 | scatterp | and |
| 17:49.38 | scatterp | sda,sdb,sdc,sdd |
| 17:49.39 | scatterp | etc |
| 17:49.44 | lkcl | no that's not going to work unless the /dev entry is actually there. |
| 17:49.49 | scatterp | yes checked /proc/mounts |
| 17:50.00 | scatterp | lkcl yes there was lots |
| 17:50.03 | lkcl | you can only open a file that actually exists |
| 17:50.08 | scatterp | yellow if that helps |
| 17:50.17 | lkcl | ah. right. |
| 17:50.26 | lkcl | then that's a static entry not a udev-generated entry. |
| 17:50.38 | lkcl | with no guarantee that the module actually loaded etc. |
| 17:50.43 | scatterp | ahh |
| 17:50.47 | lkcl | you need to use a version of linux that runs udev. |
| 17:51.03 | scatterp | hmm is there a cd version i could download and use ? |
| 17:51.05 | lkcl | the static entries in /dev means that you have a really old version of linux. |
| 17:51.13 | lkcl | lemme go take a look-see |
| 17:51.23 | scatterp | thx i been trying to solve this for days |
| 17:51.55 | lkcl | http://rescuecd.pld-linux.org/ |
| 17:52.13 | lkcl | Full list of utils in this release (total of 488): |
| 17:52.18 | lkcl | includes udev. |
| 17:52.39 | lkcl | Current release notes 2.00 (2006.06.25) |
| 17:52.39 | lkcl | Kernel 2.6.16.22 |
| 17:52.39 | lkcl | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:52.40 | lkcl | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:52.45 | lkcl | so try that one. |
| 17:53.51 | lkcl | but you _really_ should be doing development under linux, not windows. windows is a toy, and the kinds of people who develop toys don't use or understand proper collaborative development practices. |
| 17:54.12 | lkcl | if they do, they find that it's a pain to set up. |
| 17:54.41 | lkcl | that pld rescue disk is _complete_ overkill for what you need, btw. |
| 17:54.41 | scatterp | i tryed under linux for the whole week |
| 17:54.52 | scatterp | and some guy told me partition magic |
| 17:54.56 | scatterp | which didnt work either |
| 17:55.04 | scatterp | so i got thinking about windows alternatives |
| 17:55.28 | cr2 | lkcl: wtf it has to do with usb-serial ? |
| 17:55.40 | lkcl | usb serial card-reader |
| 17:55.45 | cr2 | ?? |
| 17:55.52 | cr2 | where have you seen such beast ? |
| 17:56.04 | scatterp | i got 2 here :/ |
| 17:56.05 | lkcl | ok i _presume_ you have a usb-serial card reader, scatterp |
| 17:56.07 | cr2 | they are all usb_storage devices. |
| 17:56.10 | scatterp | well 3 actualy |
| 17:56.16 | lkcl | oh. drat. yes. you're right, cr2. |
| 17:56.18 | lkcl | duh |
| 17:57.13 | lkcl | well, if he boots from a system with a properly-set-up udev, it will detect it automatically and create the entry on-demand in /dev so it will be obvious which device to fdisk. |
| 17:57.19 | cr2 | scatterp: what does your 'lsusb' say ? |
| 17:57.46 | cr2 | you may have some bizarre chipset, at least on the cheapest versions. |
| 17:58.08 | scatterp | lkcl i assumed lsusb was a typo so answered for ls /dev/usb/ earlyer |
| 17:58.17 | lkcl | scatterp: you got a spare pc (old one) kicking around so that you can try this whilst online |
| 17:58.27 | scatterp | cr2 i have no linux access at this moment to test with |
| 17:58.34 | lkcl | no it wasn't a typo it's definitely lsusb |
| 17:58.43 | scatterp | lkcl yes i will set it up once the cd is downloaded |
| 17:58.49 | scatterp | im at 57% |
| 17:58.52 | lkcl | well go and bloody well download kubuntu 6.06 and install it then! :) |
| 17:58.59 | cr2 | scatterp: /sbin/lsusb |
| 17:59.05 | lkcl | so you can talk to us _and_ try this out at the same time!! |
| 17:59.07 | scatterp | lckl its not my pc |
| 17:59.13 | lkcl | honestly. |
| 17:59.35 | cr2 | lkcl: goxboxlive got initramfs working, so there is the light. |
| 17:59.43 | lkcl | well, that's ok: they won't notice if 6gb disappears from the drive and you set the grub timeout set to 1 second :) |
| 17:59.51 | lkcl | cr2: hooray |
| 17:59.52 | cr2 | at the end of this tunnel, we only need to fill it. |
| 18:00.06 | scatterp | lkcl i can use my work laptop to chat (this one) and the guest pc to run the linux you linked me to |
| 18:00.24 | cr2 | :) |
| 18:00.26 | lkcl | scatterp: there you go! |
| 18:00.34 | scatterp | 77% downloaded |
| 18:00.43 | scatterp | let me look for a blank cd brb |
| 18:01.34 | lkcl | folks, i gotta go get some food-shopping, build an office cabinet, and then i'll be back this evening to tackle the gsm thing. |
| 18:01.41 | lkcl | i am _so_ looking forward to it. hurrah. |
| 18:01.57 | cr2 | heh. me too. |
| 18:02.02 | lkcl | :) |
| 18:02.19 | cr2 | food :) |
| 18:02.28 | lkcl | i'm going to do most of the stuff in userspace oh bollocks that means i gotta set up a dev-environment for gomunicator cross-compile *sigh* |
| 18:02.48 | scatterp | hey lkcl can you help me later if it doesnt work out for me with this cd ? |
| 18:02.51 | lkcl | ok maybe i just do a basic program first. |
| 18:02.58 | cr2 | lkcl: i have compiled gomunictor for amd64 once :) |
| 18:03.13 | cr2 | i just had nothing at /dev/gsm. |
| 18:03.14 | lkcl | yeh sure, scatterp, i can do that |
| 18:03.19 | scatterp | perfect |
| 18:03.24 | cr2 | and it crashed,crashed,crashed. |
| 18:03.32 | lkcl | i did actually set up ... LOL |
| 18:03.46 | scatterp | ok well im going to smoke then ill set up this pc its like a 286 :S |
| 18:03.58 | lkcl | i did set up, on my amd64 system, a complete openembedded.org build environment |
| 18:04.04 | scatterp | some old compaq thing |
| 18:04.07 | scatterp | brb going to smoke |
| 18:04.08 | lkcl | scatterp: best thing for it is to install linux then. |
| 18:04.20 | scatterp | parents wont agree |
| 18:04.21 | scatterp | brb |
| 18:04.32 | cr2 | lkcl: how do we relocate gtk stuff in the gomunicator to gtk2/ dir ? |
| 18:04.48 | lkcl | cr2: que???? whatwhatwhat? |
| 18:04.52 | cr2 | i want some base qt phone app. now. |
| 18:04.55 | lkcl | _what_ gtk2 stuff? |
| 18:05.03 | cr2 | gomunicator! |
| 18:05.04 | lkcl | i started on qomunicator a year ago. |
| 18:05.10 | cr2 | does it compile ? |
| 18:05.19 | cr2 | and work as gomunicator ? |
| 18:05.20 | lkcl | yerrs? remember i haven't looked at this stuff for over a year, dude. |
| 18:05.27 | cr2 | ;) |
| 18:06.02 | lkcl | and i lent out my amd64 system to a friend, and it has about 10 days worth of arseing about of my time on it, setting up the dev-environment. |
| 18:06.08 | lkcl | it was _real_ fun. hooray. |
| 18:06.46 | lkcl | anyway. food. office-furniture-assembly. feed and love baby and wife. hack-kernel-code. in that order. |
| 18:06.57 | cr2 | lkcl: could you dump the rilgsm.dll ? |
| 18:07.01 | lkcl | sure. |
| 18:07.09 | cr2 | with the latest haret ? |
| 18:07.15 | lkcl | oh. yes. the other thingy. haret. ack! |
| 18:07.33 | cr2 | just run 'lswin' |
| 18:07.41 | lkcl | 36168? |
| 18:07.48 | cr2 | then i go shopping for food too. |
| 18:08.19 | cr2 | http://jornada820.sourceforge.net/files/haret/gnuharet-200611131638.exe |
| 18:08.57 | lkcl | card in.... |
| 18:09.15 | lkcl | nk.exe.... |
| 18:09.20 | lkcl | ARGH, splat. |
| 18:09.30 | lkcl | \Storage Card\Dump\Modules\nk.exe: memcpy from ptr=7fc70000 size=24576 pages=6 |
| 18:09.30 | lkcl | \Storage Card\Dump\Modules\nk.exe: memcpy from ptr=7fc71000 size=20480 pages=5 |
| 18:09.30 | lkcl | \Storage Card\Dump\Modules\nk.exe: memcpy from ptr=7fc72000 size=16384 pages=4 |
| 18:09.38 | lkcl | Connection closed by foreign host. |
| 18:09.41 | lkcl | it got most of it. |
| 18:09.48 | cr2 | ok. buggy shit. |
| 18:10.34 | lkcl | whoopeee. |
| 18:10.43 | lkcl | btw is this helping at all? :) |
| 18:11.29 | lkcl | tell y'what - xxxx it: go get some food. i'll be back intermittently as usual and back definitely in a couple of hours or three |
| 18:13.13 | lamikr | cr2: What are you doing if you dump the rilgsm.dll with the haret? |
| 18:13.52 | lkcl | getting it out so that we can run strings on it, lamikr. etc. etc. |
| 18:14.39 | lkcl | it might turn out that i don't need it, but hey it'd be good to know about things like the gsm-gps interaction (to get the ephemeris from the gsm basestation, to help gps) |
| 18:16.53 | lamikr | lkcl: So you use haret just for copying the dll to mmc/sd from phone. Not doing real anaylysis with haret itself for it? |
| 18:18.21 | lkcl | lamikr: yep. cr2 added an extra command to dump the dll directly from memory. |
| 18:19.01 | lamikr | cool |
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| 19:56.55 | goxboxlive | this is a tsst |
| 19:57.05 | goxboxlive | s/tsst/test |
| 19:57.31 | goxboxlive | s/tsst/test/ |
| 19:57.36 | goxboxlive | ahha |
| 20:08.12 | cr2 | i've never been a friend of java, but sun has managed to set the evil bit even here: http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS6857451192.html |
| 20:08.23 | cr2 | gplv2 |
| 20:09.20 | cr2 | that brings me to an old question, what was the original haret license ? |
| 20:17.07 | lamikr | The code for that is very likely in rilgsm.dll. I have heard that it is device specific, while ril.dll is more generic between different winces. |
| 20:17.42 | lamikr | heh, meant to write in h6300-port list :-) |
| 20:23.36 | cr2 | lamikr: have you looked at that code with 5.0 ? |
| 20:24.24 | lamikr | cr2: No I haven't. Do you have the rm access to 5.0? |
| 20:24.55 | lamikr | I mean, could you encode some dll's for me... |
| 20:25.34 | cr2 | yes. |
| 20:25.47 | cr2 | you can check it with the demo anyway. |
| 20:26.10 | lamikr | Thanks, does the demo have full features for a limited time? |
| 20:26.20 | cr2 | it's a good idea to check with demo. |
| 20:26.45 | cr2 | yes. it is time-limited and can't save the idb/lst. but you can cut'n'paste. |
| 20:26.55 | lamikr | ok, I will try. |
| 20:27.38 | cr2 | don't know about windows, but in wine i can cut'n'paste. |
| 20:28.02 | lkcl | allo darlins |
| 20:28.34 | cr2 | these windows developers sometimes have strange ideas. like 'printing forbidden' in acroread. |
| 20:28.38 | lkcl | where would i start looking for example code to create an entry in /sys ? |
| 20:29.03 | cr2 | lkcl: in some generic driver code ? |
| 20:29.04 | lamikr | yes |
| 20:29.14 | cr2 | why do you need it ? |
| 20:29.15 | lkcl | it's a whole new world, cr2. one where 'control' is strangely paramount... |
| 20:29.18 | lkcl | yep. |
| 20:29.51 | lkcl | cos i want to split out the gpio bit-raising for gsm |
| 20:30.03 | lamikr | ok, so it works in wine. Which version of wine you are running? |
| 20:30.11 | lkcl | either that - or do you think it's possible to add an ioctl function to pxa-btuart? |
| 20:30.42 | lamikr | hmm, we have found very fishy function name from ipaqutil.dll. " iPAQSetGSMRadio" :-) |
| 20:31.27 | cr2 | lkcl: i have 10.2mpix CCD. people will always be able to create ADC with resistor matrices. so why bother ? |
| 20:31.43 | Fossi | wm5 stinks. i need linux on this phone :\ |
| 20:31.44 | cr2 | lamikr: hp likes custom ioctls. |
| 20:31.51 | cr2 | Fossi: which phone ? |
| 20:31.56 | Fossi | prophet |
| 20:32.01 | cr2 | cpu ? |
| 20:32.04 | Fossi | omap |
| 20:32.08 | cr2 | i always forget. |
| 20:32.10 | cr2 | ok. |
| 20:32.10 | Fossi | third time you ask ;D |
| 20:32.14 | cr2 | yeah. |
| 20:32.28 | cr2 | fscking marketing people. |
| 20:32.54 | lkcl | ok there's a struct uart_port *port... |
| 20:32.59 | cr2 | they could name it omap850-002 |
| 20:32.59 | lkcl | port->ops->ioctl... |
| 20:33.07 | Fossi | i agree, but made you say that? |
| 20:33.10 | Fossi | ah, k ;) |
| 20:33.39 | Fossi | actually mine is not called a prophet even |
| 20:33.39 | lkcl | ok! there's a uart_pxa_port... |
| 20:33.44 | Fossi | o2 xda neo |
| 20:33.44 | Fossi | ;) |
| 20:34.07 | cr2 | Fossi: why don't you read the available linux kernel code for omap, and add some stuff into haret ? |
| 20:34.21 | Fossi | i have a booting kernel actually :) |
| 20:34.36 | Fossi | the people in #linwizard are quite nice ;) |
| 20:34.41 | cr2 | otherwise, this project will stay at the same place. look at himalaya/blueangel. |
| 20:34.58 | Fossi | but i still need to buy a sda card so i have space for familiar |
| 20:35.37 | Fossi | then i can care about sound, wlan and the other stuff :) |
| 20:35.44 | cr2 | yes. |
| 20:36.32 | lamikr | cr2: Has anybody tried the live debugging with ida 5? |
| 20:37.03 | cr2 | watching what wince is doing is the most simple way to take care of the devices. |
| 20:37.19 | cr2 | lamikr: it's not for the kernel-level stuff. |
| 20:37.46 | lamikr | ok... |
| 20:38.16 | cr2 | lamikr: imho, the target here are the keygen authors and such. and it runs only on windows anyway. |
| 20:39.39 | cr2 | lkcl: what is the latest linux ida version, 4.9 ? |
| 20:39.48 | lkcl | 5.something |
| 20:40.25 | lamikr | I would like to see the linux ida... |
| 20:40.29 | lkcl | i have a license from nearly 3 years ago which entitles me to the last revision/minor-upgrade |
| 20:40.29 | cr2 | ok. |
| 20:40.40 | lkcl | lamikr: it's pretty boring. ncurses-based |
| 20:40.51 | cr2 | lkcl: but it's a windows version. |
| 20:40.57 | lamikr | well, the win one I have looks same. |
| 20:41.13 | lkcl | no, the linux version is curses-based. it's really boring |
| 20:41.14 | cr2 | lkcl: funny that you say it. i don't really appreciate this graph stuff. |
| 20:41.25 | lkcl | graph stuff? you mean graphical stuff? |
| 20:41.41 | lkcl | you'd love my program i wrote a couple of years ago, http://lkcl.net/amcaius |
| 20:41.42 | cr2 | also the "graph" ability. |
| 20:41.57 | lkcl | what graph ability? |
| 20:42.05 | lamikr | well, I think the 4.x ui is quite usable even it is not dialog based. |
| 20:42.33 | lkcl | ok i think i worked out how to add an ioctl to the BTUART. |
| 20:42.46 | lkcl | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:42.46 | lkcl | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:42.55 | cr2 | lkcl: the MDI is evil. 5.0 visualizes the function call graph |
| 20:43.04 | lkcl | euwwww. yukk. |
| 20:43.18 | lkcl | i am sure that some people will love it. |
| 20:43.50 | cr2 | i can tap on the function name in ncurses. |
| 20:44.28 | cr2 | i'll go with a good ncurses gui any time. |
| 20:45.12 | cr2 | the people who have brains to create a good ncurses gui always do a better job that mfc/msvc monkeys :) |
| 20:45.34 | lkcl | you'd _really_ love amcaius |
| 20:46.17 | cr2 | looking. |
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| 20:46.36 | lkcl | wellits only blurb there. |
| 20:47.58 | cr2 | lkcl: when you create the phone ioctls, think about bt headset, and that this stuff should go directly into the mainstream kernel. |
| 20:48.30 | cr2 | we may set a standard here. |
| 20:48.53 | lkcl | spoke to psoko he said harald welte is to do some stuff on this. |
| 20:49.50 | cr2 | i've looked at the ov6550 cam driver in the omap tree. it has nothing to do with omap, we can import it right now. |
| 20:50.16 | cr2 | the openmoko does not have a cam ? |
| 20:50.46 | cr2 | heh. and on universal there are 2 cams. |
| 20:50.51 | lkcl | :) |
| 20:51.04 | cr2 | and no umts. |
| 20:51.26 | cr2 | this is not a device for the european market, i'd say. |
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| 20:52.45 | lkcl | china and far east is the biggest market in the worl. its wjere experimental phones can be tested and still mnake money |
| 20:53.02 | lkcl | forget europe. |
| 20:53.07 | lkcl | forget the us. |
| 20:53.38 | lkcl | nobody in china has landlines. everybody has cellphones. 1 billion people |
| 20:55.34 | cr2 | yeah, does it have the fm radio too ? |
| 20:56.40 | cr2 | i don't have time for the junk peddled on tv or radio anyway ;) |
| 20:57.17 | Fossi | word |
| 20:57.41 | cr2 | lkcl: you should be nominated as an industry leader. you'll outsource us all to china ;) |
| 20:59.14 | cr2 | i guess this 1 billion people don't give a fsck about "free software" too. free software has a different meaning there, i was told :) |
| 21:00.02 | goxboxlive | cr2 said: heh. and on universal there are 2 cams. : Then lets make them work :-D |
| 21:00.27 | goxboxlive | cr2 have you noticed the problem with reebooting on your universal? |
| 21:00.29 | cr2 | goxboxlive: i have tracked the power gpios. |
| 21:00.38 | goxboxlive | cool |
| 21:00.39 | cr2 | goxboxlive: no. |
| 21:01.21 | cr2 | i'm more concerned about the battery. |
| 21:01.34 | goxboxlive | so you think our battery is starting to sa "sayonara"? |
| 21:02.07 | cr2 | we don't write to the eeprom, but wince gathers some stats and saves there. it can be really confused if we charge it in linux, but do not update the stats. |
| 21:02.33 | cr2 | and i don't really like the values reported over owm. |
| 21:03.32 | cr2 | the most easy step right now is to resurrect the old ipaq ds276x eeprom data decoder. |
| 21:04.29 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 21:04.37 | cr2 | and to make the owm driver report this data. and to decode it like wince does it. |
| 21:05.22 | cr2 | goxboxlive: there are many hx4700 linux users. do they have working sound ? |
| 21:11.32 | goxboxlive | cr2: Yes they have a working sounddriver. But they have also problems with the noise form the speakers. |
| 21:11.49 | goxboxlive | But, when they are resuming the noise is away. |
| 21:11.55 | cr2 | hmm. ok. |
| 21:12.21 | cr2 | goxboxlive: can you try the headset ? |
| 21:12.37 | cr2 | there is one gpio not used, but who know. |
| 21:15.33 | goxboxlive | cr2: I have tried the headset and it is working, i also getting a dmesg about 3,5 is activated. |
| 21:16.03 | goxboxlive | And there are also some noise in the headset when trying to play a mp3 |
| 21:19.56 | cr2 | working ? or only some noise ? |
| 21:21.50 | goxboxlive | both |
| 21:22.19 | cr2 | so the headset works, but not the speaker ? |
| 21:24.39 | goxboxlive | Read this: This a mail i got from a hx4700 user: |
| 21:24.41 | goxboxlive | Sound works pretty good for me. I can play audio files and see video. The trouble, i suppose, is in the signal-to-noise ratio which is not corresponding to standard 16bit quantization. As far as I can hear SNR is 30...40 dB for me, when it must be much lower. The noise remains, even if audio file is not being played. |
| 21:24.42 | goxboxlive | I've got other confusing facts. After "suspend-resume" the noise disappears. After "play-stop" a sound file the noise comes out again. Headphones is another trick. There is no noise in headphones even if they are plugged in. The noise is still coming out of speaker! After "play-stop" a sound file with headphones the noise stops coming out off speaker! |
| 21:25.59 | goxboxlive | On our Universal, no sound in headphone or speakers. Only noise :-) (not loud noise thow) |
| 21:26.03 | cr2 | goxboxlive: i mean the headset on the universal. |
| 21:26.07 | cr2 | ok. |
| 21:26.25 | cr2 | can you control noise level with alsaconf ? |
| 21:27.14 | goxboxlive | no |
| 21:28.32 | goxboxlive | cr2: the noise is very, and i mean very low, the "tick" when you hear the audi driver is getting active is a little loader, but you need to consentrate to hear it |
| 21:28.56 | goxboxlive | s/audi/audio/ |
| 21:29.02 | cr2 | ok. |
| 21:34.08 | goxboxlive | The hx4700 guy where using kernel 2.6.16-hh5. |
| 21:37.40 | *** join/#htc-linux booba (n=booba@81.56.252.135) |
| 21:39.33 | cr2 | then we should make a diff with this version. |
| 21:41.36 | goxboxlive | yes |
| 21:43.27 | cr2 | lkcl: is your phone locked ? |
| 21:53.00 | lamikr | lkcl: Could the noice be caused by misbehaving dma? (Small mis-calculation between transferred data buffers which leaves empty spaces periodically?) |
| 21:53.37 | lamikr | cr2: If you are interested in to compare to omap world, here thet are: http://aragorn.kortex.jyu.fi:8080/h6300/h6300_xip_nbf_extracted.zip |
| 22:14.56 | cr2 | lamikr: 5.0 does not demangle g++ symbols. i've told you it's not worth the money ;) |
| 22:19.26 | lamikr | need to start reading binary books :-) |
| 22:22.47 | cr2 | lamikr: what is that AT+WBHV=2,1 |
| 22:23.31 | cr2 | AT+ST* is also new for me. |
| 22:24.03 | lamikr | hold on, |
| 22:24.38 | cr2 | MmMapIoSpace ? |
| 22:24.46 | cr2 | do you know what is mmaped there ? |
| 22:25.35 | lamikr | cr2: What are you reading? |
| 22:25.58 | cr2 | do you know all your AT commands ? |
| 22:26.45 | lamikr | cr2: No I don't. I have only read the AT command specs and tested which works... |
| 22:27.13 | lamikr | iPAQ # \anther for iPAQ File e store |
| 22:27.15 | lamikr | Unknown command 'anther' - try 'help' |
| 22:27.16 | lamikr | iPAQ # this is 4 |
| 22:27.17 | lamikr | Unknown command 'this' - try 'help' |
| 22:27.19 | lamikr | iPAQ # isd ot is the last one left to flash even after hard reset? |
| 22:27.20 | lamikr | Unknown command 'isd' - try 'help' |
| 22:27.22 | lamikr | iPAQ # yes ... hard reset will not restructire oa that |
| 22:27.23 | lamikr | Unknown command 'yes' - try 'help' |
| 22:27.25 | lamikr | iPAQ # \ |
| 22:27.26 | lamikr | Unknown command '<NULL>' - try 'help' |
| 22:27.28 | lamikr | iPAQ # doc info |
| 22:27.30 | lamikr | Device 0: <NULL> at 0xA0000000, |
| 22:27.31 | lamikr | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:27.33 | lamikr | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:27.35 | lamikr | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:27.36 | lamikr | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:27.38 | lamikr | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:27.39 | lamikr | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:27.41 | lamikr | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:27.43 | lamikr | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:27.44 | lamikr | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:27.46 | lamikr | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:27.48 | lamikr | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:27.50 | lamikr | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:27.52 | lamikr | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:27.54 | lamikr | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:27.56 | lamikr | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:27.58 | lamikr | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:28.00 | lamikr | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:28.02 | lamikr | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:28.04 | lamikr | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:28.06 | lamikr | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:28.08 | lamikr | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:28.10 | lamikr | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:28.13 | lamikr | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:28.14 | lamikr | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:28.16 | lamikr | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:28.18 | lamikr | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:28.20 | lamikr | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:28.22 | lamikr | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:28.24 | lamikr | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:28.26 | lamikr | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:28.28 | lamikr | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:28.30 | lamikr | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:28.32 | lamikr | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:28.34 | lamikr | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:28.36 | lamikr | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:28.38 | lamikr | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:28.41 | lamikr | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:28.42 | lamikr | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:28.44 | lamikr | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:28.46 | lamikr | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:28.48 | lamikr | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:28.50 | lamikr | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:28.52 | lamikr | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:28.54 | lamikr | iPAQ # 0 is binary for IPL SPL? yes |
| 22:28.56 | lamikr | Unknown command '0' - try 'help' |
| 22:28.58 | lamikr | iPAQ # and BL |
| 22:29.00 | lamikr | Unknown command 'and' - try 'help' |
| 22:29.02 | lamikr | found out the AT+WBHV = Modem Behaviour Configuration |
| 22:29.06 | lamikr | cr2: Sorry printed out u-boot log from our flash partition tables :-) |
| 22:29.14 | lamikr | AT+WBHV = modem behaviour configuration |
| 22:30.28 | cr2 | lamikr: why don't you write down the command list ? like(unising) this one: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_GSM |
| 22:31.58 | lamikr | Is that table made by hand by testing which commands works ? Or are the commands searched from the binaries? |
| 22:32.21 | cr2 | 'strings rilgsm.dll' |
| 22:33.05 | lamikr | Can you give me the page for this strings? |
| 22:33.45 | cr2 | you have rilgsm.dll ? run 'strings' |
| 22:34.42 | cr2 | most commands are standard, AT+W* are probably documented in your pdf. there may be some undocumented commands. |
| 22:35.37 | lamikr | Thanks, I did not know about this command... |
| 22:37.17 | lamikr | for the wbhv, there were defined these 2 parameters in manual. But only values 0 and 1 for both. Not number 2 or 3 what are in the ri1gsm.dll |
| 22:38.03 | lamikr | What could mean: Modem init mode is powerless? |
| 22:39.06 | cr2 | no. this command is hardcoded. |
| 22:41.04 | lamikr | STSF= Sim toolkit set facilities. (Used to indicate which cusmoter application features is supported by the customer application) |
| 22:48.10 | cr2 | AT+WMBS=%u,0\r |
| 22:49.11 | cr2 | lamikr: AT+STSF? |
| 22:49.20 | cr2 | what comes out of this command ? |
| 22:51.25 | lamikr | cr2: There is a interaction picture in the 16.2 chaper of the AT_Commands.pdf |
| 22:51.36 | lamikr | Do you have the link to it still available? |
| 22:53.01 | lamikr | and 16.3.1.5 has example command exchange: |
| 22:53.37 | *** join/#htc-linux scatterp (n=deminish@212.32.67.3) |
| 22:57.05 | lamikr | cr2: MmMapIoSpace is function? |
| 22:58.37 | cr2 | mmap |
| 22:58.48 | cr2 | your init string is rather complex. |
| 22:58.59 | cr2 | even AT+SPEAKER=0 is there. |
| 23:00.20 | cr2 | interesting. |
| 23:02.37 | cr2 | ATZ;E0;+WMUX=1|S0=0;Q0;V0;X4;&C1;&D1;&S1|+CFUN=0|+WFM=1,61;+ECHO=1,3,30,8000,64|+WIND=63|+WRIM=3,4103,4|+WBCM=0,0;+CMEE=1;+SPEAKER=0;+WSVG=1|+CRC=1;+CR=0;+FCLASS=0;+CSSN=0,1;+CREG=1;+CGREG=1|+CMGF=0|&W|+WIOM=128,0;+WHCNF=2,1,1,51;+WHCNF=2,1,2,1,25,100|+STSF=2,",0x22,"5FFFFFFF1F",0x22,",24|+STSF=1|+WVR=6,6|+WBHV=2,1|+WBHV=3,1|+WSST=7,7|+WSVN?|+WBHV=0,1 |
| 23:03.32 | cr2 | +WBHV=2,1 +WBHV=3,1 +WBHV=0,1 |
| 23:05.12 | lamikr | hmm, funny. I have tried to play with speaker command setings but have not detected anything. |
| 23:05.50 | lamikr | I am wondering could we also set the "BIG alarm" speaker to ring via at commands. |
| 23:07.05 | cr2 | do you support at+creg=2 ? |
| 23:07.40 | cr2 | hopper.exe ? |
| 23:09.33 | lamikr | At least the files I extracted did not contain hopper.exe. But there where hotvoice.exe |
| 23:10.24 | cr2 | ok. what about creg=2 ? |
| 23:11.15 | lamikr | grep, found CREG=1 |
| 23:12.49 | lamikr | What is this location information with CREG=2 ? |
| 23:15.16 | lamikr | cr2: Could that be coordinates? |
| 23:19.05 | cr2 | LAC and CellID |
| 23:21.16 | cr2 | http://forumz.tomshardware.com/mobile/Cell-ID-ftopict33014.html |
| 23:25.25 | lamikr | ok, but I still did not get what this "location area code" or "cell id" could tell me? I mean could I use them for getting gps kind of location info? |
| 23:28.48 | cr2 | not gps, but an approximate location. if you have the complete database of base stations. |
| 23:29.00 | cr2 | http://handhelds.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/linux/kernel/arch/arm/mach-ipaq/h3600_asic_battery.c |
| 23:29.23 | cr2 | here is the htc ds276x eeprom decoder. |
| 23:33.43 | cr2 | lamikr: what is your memory map in wince ? do you have it in wiki ? |
| 23:34.33 | cr2 | AT+W32K=1 in powerdown ? |
| 23:35.49 | cr2 | 0xa413e000 - this is mmaped, but what is located there ? |
| 23:36.29 | lamikr | = product uses 32khz internal clock during the inactivity states. State remain 1-15 min after it must be repeated. Not stored to eeprom, so will not last after reset. |
| 23:37.08 | cr2 | ok. |
| 23:37.42 | lamikr | I know that omap kernel memory area starts from 0x1000 0000, but I do not know about that address... |
| 23:37.50 | lamikr | I try to check... |
| 23:40.48 | *** join/#htc-linux kacper (n=kacper@bxy82.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 23:44.11 | *** join/#htc-linux husam (n=husam@217.206.111.105) |
| 23:45.19 | *** part/#htc-linux kacper (n=kacper@bxy82.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 23:46.16 | lamikr | cr2: Husam and Kacper are also working with h6300. |
| 23:46.50 | lamikr | husam: Do you have any idea what we could have in address 0xa413e000 ? |
| 23:46.58 | cr2 | ok. |
| 23:47.23 | lamikr | cr2: Checked that this address is memory mapped in rilgsm.dll |
| 23:48.00 | husam | I think thats structure used by BL |
| 23:49.34 | cr2 | husam: in wince ? |
| 23:49.56 | lamikr | Do you mean that BL maps also that address and writes to there? |
| 23:50.42 | cr2 | not the address, but the area starting with it is ioremap()'d. |
| 23:50.50 | husam | I think both Bootloader and wince use the same memory mapping ... but that was something I sow in BL |
| 23:50.56 | cr2 | btw, why there is no nk.exe ? |
| 23:51.23 | husam | there should be one !!! |
| 23:51.42 | cr2 | lamikr: ? |
| 23:52.14 | lamikr | I try to check. |
| 23:54.24 | lamikr | I do not have nk.exe. It was not part of the xip.nbf or not in the list of files I could copy from windows directory by using file exprlorer and active sync. |
| 23:54.43 | lamikr | I found out from docs a following IO memory area picture... |
| 23:56.18 | lamikr | for dsp... MCSI1 area: 09400 - 0B7ff |
| 23:57.49 | cr2 | lamikr: do you have msvc ? hmm. the nk.exe is not that easy to copy... |
| 23:58.31 | lamikr | What is this nk.exe? |
| 23:58.34 | cr2 | lamikr: can you dump the RAM in haret ? |
| 23:59.07 | lamikr | Does not work with that, but we have own similar kind of tool. |
| 23:59.15 | cr2 | hmm. you don't really have proper haret support ... |
| 23:59.26 | cr2 | nk.exe is wince kernel |
| 23:59.38 | cr2 | it must be located somewhere in the memory. |
| 23:59.59 | cr2 | on our pxa devices it is at +40000 (256K) from the RAM start. |