| 00:00.10 | cr2 | the first 256K is for the bootloader. |
| 00:00.29 | husam | I think you can extract that from hp update using dumprom !!! |
| 00:01.04 | lamikr | hmm, wondering in which file it is... |
| 00:01.41 | husam | my old update had file called boot |
| 00:02.56 | cr2 | lkcl: http://www.mirror99.com/20051031/global_locate_a_gps_technology_on_board_hp_ipaq_hw6500_mobile_bhgh.jspx |
| 00:03.31 | lamikr | I do not have a boot in here. And xip.nbf is the only file for which the dumprom works from these. |
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| 00:05.10 | cr2 | lkcl: it seems it is produced by fujitsu http://www.fujitsu.com/us/news/pr/fma_20020226-03.html |
| 00:07.31 | lamikr | cr2: What is this wince memory address space? Is it is same than what we have for example in CPU specs. Like: |
| 00:07.36 | lamikr | 0x0000:0000 --> = flash space |
| 00:07.47 | lamikr | 0x1000: 0000 --> SDRAM |
| 00:08.04 | lamikr | 0x2000: 0000 --> internal sram |
| 00:08.18 | husam | lamikr: no this phyiscal addresses |
| 00:08.19 | lamikr | 0x2007: 0000 --> reserved |
| 00:08.30 | lamikr | so you are searching virtual address map? |
| 00:09.03 | husam | thats what the kernel uses |
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| 00:13.37 | lamikr | So nk.exe would contain information how virtual addresses are located in the physical memory? |
| 00:14.07 | husam | yes... I use to have the mapping whoch used my BL |
| 00:14.54 | lkcl | ah hahaha, well done. ok. that's the GL-16000. they may have picked a different partner for the GL-20000 |
| 00:15.47 | cr2 | ok. |
| 00:16.22 | cr2 | and you think such patent trolling company will provide you with the datasheets ? |
| 00:23.04 | lamikr | husam: Do you remember is it possible to use u-load for searching some string from the memory? (To locate nk.exe) |
| 00:26.09 | husam | No ... I had it when I was debugging BL |
| 00:51.02 | husam | lamikr: sorry it looks like I lost the file when with harddrive |
| 00:52.34 | lamikr | ok |
| 00:54.56 | cr2 | lamikr: mmiospace is at RIL_Init |
| 00:55.53 | cr2 | 0x10000000 | 0x12c000 for 64K |
| 00:57.07 | cr2 | 0x1012c000 (physical) - what is there ? |
| 01:00.21 | lamikr | cr2: hold on, I check |
| 01:05.20 | Kevin2 | Hi |
| 01:09.15 | cr2 | Kevin2: hi. thanks for the bugfix. the program still crashes ;) |
| 01:09.58 | cr2 | #-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
| 01:10.02 | cr2 | # Description : BRF6150 2.12 ROM Initialization Script |
| 01:10.06 | cr2 | # |
| 01:10.07 | cr2 | # Compatablity: BRF6150 2.12 ROM |
| 01:10.07 | cr2 | # |
| 01:10.07 | cr2 | # Last Updated: 13.06.2004 |
| 01:10.07 | cr2 | # |
| 01:10.08 | cr2 | # Notes : Use this script on BRF6150 2.12 ROM device only (FW v3.0.48) |
| 01:10.11 | cr2 | ACTION_SEND_COMMAND: 0x01 0x26 0x0c 0x02 0x60 0x00 |
| 01:10.13 | cr2 | ACTION_WAIT_EVENT: 5000 msec, 7 size, data = 0x04 0x0e 0x04 0x00 0x26 0x0c 0x00 |
| 01:10.15 | cr2 | ACTION_SEND_COMMAND: 0x01 0x08 0xfe 0x0e 0x00 0x02 0x01 0x01 0x01 0x01 0x10 0x00 0xff 0x00 0x10 0x00 0xff 0x00 |
| 01:10.18 | cr2 | ACTION_WAIT_EVENT: 5000 msec, 7 size, data = 0x04 0x0e 0x04 0x00 0x08 0xfe 0x00 |
| 01:10.33 | cr2 | ok, the standlone TI parser works. |
| 01:10.50 | cr2 | 5000 msec ? looks like 5000 usec. |
| 01:12.06 | cr2 | the BRF6150 GPIO control seems to be very simple. |
| 01:12.26 | cr2 | # Set IO2 to 0 |
| 01:12.26 | cr2 | ACTION_SEND_COMMAND: 0x01 0x1b 0xff 0x02 0x02 0x00 |
| 01:12.38 | cr2 | # Set IO4 to 0 |
| 01:12.38 | cr2 | ACTION_SEND_COMMAND: 0x01 0x1b 0xff 0x02 0x04 0x00 |
| 01:13.13 | cr2 | # Set IO2 to 0 |
| 01:13.13 | cr2 | ACTION_SEND_COMMAND: 0x01 0x1b 0xff 0x02 0x02 0x00 |
| 01:13.26 | cr2 | # Set IO4 to 1 |
| 01:13.26 | cr2 | ACTION_SEND_COMMAND: 0x01 0x1b 0xff 0x02 0x04 0x01 |
| 01:15.14 | lamikr | cr2: Could it be just a location inside the SDRAM memory interface? That has following info: Start address = 0x1000:0000, End Address=0x1bff:ffff , Size =64mb |
| 01:17.21 | cr2 | lamikr: maybe. |
| 01:19.11 | lamikr | So it reserver 64 k memory from SDRAM and that is reserved for the communication with some io device... |
| 01:20.57 | cr2 | ok. io device == modem. |
| 01:21.19 | cr2 | good night. |
| 01:26.06 | lamikr | cr2: one more thing |
| 01:26.33 | lamikr | Could the address be opposite: Like 0xc000:0012 ? |
| 01:29.25 | lamikr | goodnight |
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| 02:46.04 | lkcl | ohh _man_ what a serious hack-job. |
| 02:56.29 | lkcl | Assistance data standards |
| 02:56.29 | lkcl | ? UMTS/GSM: 3GPP TS 25.331, |
| 02:56.29 | lkcl | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:56.29 | lkcl | ? CDMA: 3GPP2 C.S0022-0-1 |
| 03:33.47 | scatterp | hi |
| 03:35.59 | scatterp | lkcl if your still around i have a few problems still i got the partions done thru |
| 03:35.59 | scatterp | brb |
| 03:35.59 | lkcl | it's a bit late: i just finished my last email and wanted to get to sleep. |
| 03:36.05 | scatterp | yeah im tiered too |
| 03:36.09 | lkcl | that rescue disk worked then i take it? |
| 03:36.12 | scatterp | can we do it tomorow ? |
| 03:36.15 | scatterp | yes that worked |
| 03:36.24 | scatterp | but now i just need to know some simple stuff |
| 03:36.27 | lkcl | hooray. it was udev-based so would auto-detect hardware |
| 03:36.43 | scatterp | like how to start opie with support for the touch screen |
| 03:36.44 | lkcl | ask the questions: if i don't get to them then someone else will see and possibly answer you. |
| 03:36.57 | scatterp | well leave it for tonight |
| 03:37.01 | lkcl | come back when you're awake, and look through the logs on ibot.rikers.org/#htc-linux/ |
| 03:37.05 | scatterp | we can catch up tomorow some time |
| 03:37.15 | lkcl | no seriously ask the questions, in brief, or mention the issues, and leave it at that. |
| 03:37.22 | scatterp | k |
| 03:37.50 | scatterp | well mainly that |
| 03:38.01 | scatterp | how to restart opie and the touch screen driver |
| 03:38.19 | scatterp | also wanted to know if any new progress has been made with sound or anything fun on the universal |
| 03:38.29 | scatterp | im gonna go grab a smoke brb |
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| 06:47.23 | lkcl | sound on universal needs the primary maintainer to do a bit more work on sorting on the i2c and i2s mess. initialisation of the ak4641 chip isn't working. the same chip is on the hx4700 and also on the hw6915. none of these devices now work. |
| 06:47.47 | lkcl | opie can be restarted with /etc/init.d/opie stop followed by /etc/init.d/opie start |
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| 12:20.54 | NickBee | cr2, are you there? |
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| 15:31.18 | lkcl | i sent an email to kernel-discuss@handhelds.org for people to think about |
| 15:32.22 | lkcl | about doing ioctls on the ttyS1 port |
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| 16:36.49 | lkcl | ah _ha_ |
| 16:36.51 | lkcl | http://www.htc.com/product/03-product_p3600.htm |
| 16:37.00 | lkcl | it seems that HTC have abandoned xscale already! |
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| 17:01.13 | scatterp | [06:47] <lkcl> opie can be restarted with /etc/init.d/opie stop followed by /etc/init.d/opie start |
| 17:01.25 | scatterp | lkcl that doesnt restart the touch screen driver |
| 17:01.29 | lkcl | yep. is that what you were looking for, scatterp? |
| 17:01.30 | scatterp | so makes opie unuseable |
| 17:01.54 | lkcl | ah. that's something you want to ask on..... #openembedded or #handhelds unless someone already knows. |
| 17:02.07 | cr2 | lkcl: how do you switch to NMEA ? does any gps-related data appear in the btuart datastream ? |
| 17:02.10 | lkcl | there's a file, somewhere... which opie creates. |
| 17:02.22 | lkcl | no, absolutely none that is recognisable, cr2. |
| 17:02.41 | lkcl | there's some patterns but that's about it. |
| 17:02.53 | lkcl | i _could_ go walkabout with the device and slowly work it out :) |
| 17:03.05 | lkcl | but that's going to be a royal pain. |
| 17:03.13 | cr2 | where did you get that info about switching ? |
| 17:03.16 | cr2 | agreed. |
| 17:03.28 | lkcl | globallocate have an application on their 'Software' section of the web site |
| 17:03.45 | lkcl | i think it's the one that mentions NMEA backwards-compatibility-mode |
| 17:04.01 | cr2 | ok :) i like to study applications :) |
| 17:04.25 | cr2 | a very sane idea actually, a switch to NMEA. |
| 17:05.03 | lkcl | oh dear |
| 17:05.18 | lkcl | btw the Neo1973 - openmoko - also has a globallocate chipset! |
| 17:05.27 | cr2 | you'll have really hard time decoding the binary datastream. think sirf (which is documented by 95%) |
| 17:05.42 | cr2 | lkcl: is there a hw list ? |
| 17:05.59 | cr2 | for moko ? |
| 17:06.48 | cr2 | i miss where it is more open than your hw6900. |
| 17:06.51 | lkcl | not that i know of |
| 17:07.14 | cr2 | if we'll be able to switch to nmea, that will be a hit :) |
| 17:07.50 | cr2 | lkcl: where comes this info about GL in openmoko ? |
| 17:08.33 | lkcl | i'll email you. |
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| 17:09.59 | cr2 | ok. |
| 17:11.17 | cr2 | lkcl: i fear that NMEA output will be an addon on top of some huge binary decoder blob. |
| 17:11.28 | lkcl | don't care! |
| 17:12.12 | cr2 | if you really want to decode it, it makes sense to walk carrying a sirf receiver and log the raw data too. |
| 17:12.47 | cr2 | XYZ coordinates, ephemeris and other goodies. better with sirf2, btw. |
| 17:13.38 | cr2 | http://www.ualberta.ca/~ckuethe/gps |
| 17:14.18 | cr2 | http://www.ualberta.ca/~ckuethe/gps/gps-kit-cvs.tgz |
| 17:15.16 | cr2 | i have not looked at this code, but the idea is very interesting (and it's GPL): http://precision-gps.org |
| 17:16.26 | scatterp | lkcl those 2 channels you mentioned are empty :S |
| 17:16.34 | lkcl | que? que? |
| 17:16.38 | lkcl | #handhelds.org |
| 17:16.41 | scatterp | you speak spanish ? |
| 17:17.13 | lkcl | no :) |
| 17:17.23 | scatterp | oh lol |
| 17:17.42 | scatterp | another question is when i boot up opie i get the black console screen behind opie |
| 17:17.52 | lkcl | hmm, yeh you're right: openembedded stopped in 2004. |
| 17:18.03 | scatterp | kinda breaking through and if i type it goes to both opie and console |
| 17:18.06 | scatterp | so i can type ls |
| 17:18.23 | scatterp | and the black console will totaly over run opie so you can barely see it was ever there |
| 17:19.27 | scatterp | wondering if theres a way to stop that on bootup |
| 17:19.36 | scatterp | or do i need to just restart opie |
| 17:27.57 | cr2 | scatterp: it's ok to get a black screen, but the you'll get the calibration screen |
| 17:28.11 | cr2 | if you don't have a /etc/pointercal file |
| 17:29.00 | cr2 | i've heard from some people that the touchscreen does not work at that stage, but _never_ had this problem myself. and goxboxlive too. go figure. |
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| 17:57.39 | cr2 | pH5: hi |
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| 18:18.12 | asylumed | hey |
| 18:18.20 | pH5 | hey cr2, asylumed |
| 18:19.22 | cr2 | pH5: have you merged your .18 changes into hh.org CVS ? |
| 18:20.16 | asylumed | cr2: hey, looking at the output of WASIC3GPIO... |
| 18:20.17 | pH5 | cr2: no, I just cvs up'ed to .18-hh0, though. |
| 18:20.29 | asylumed | cr2: what is GPLR88 1 44097786? |
| 18:22.05 | cr2 | asylumed: pxa gpio88 set to 1 at relative time of 44097796 msec |
| 18:22.45 | asylumed | cr2: hmmm, silly question then... so it outputs the std gpio changes as well? |
| 18:22.54 | cr2 | pH5: ok. you also have a hx4700 ? does the sound work for you with .18-hh0 ? |
| 18:23.42 | cr2 | asylumed: yes. and the CKEN changes (and egpio bits, relevant only on the universal) |
| 18:23.44 | pH5 | cr2: I'll tell you as soon as I know. |
| 18:23.59 | cr2 | pH5: ok. |
| 18:24.56 | psokolovsky | asylumed, Hi! Any update on asic3_keys irq issues? |
| 18:25.07 | cr2 | guys, i have invested some time in the asic3 spi stuff because of the lkcl's gps chipset. it can be relevant for the blueangel too. |
| 18:25.19 | asylumed | psokolovsky: nothing yet... had little time here to play... |
| 18:25.38 | asylumed | psokolovsky: i'm pretty sure i'm doing things the standard way though... |
| 18:25.58 | psokolovsky | asylumed, but once again confirm it works ok for me on h4000 as is. didn't test Roman's patch yet too. |
| 18:26.17 | cr2 | psokolovsky: i did not find the h4300 keyboard code in wince. |
| 18:26.30 | cr2 | but it looks strange. |
| 18:26.44 | psokolovsky | asylumed, I hope you got my mail, have a look at h4000_buttons once again |
| 18:26.50 | psokolovsky | cr2, where did you look? |
| 18:27.15 | cr2 | hp update. |
| 18:27.25 | cr2 | keyboard.dll |
| 18:27.44 | cr2 | keybddr.dll# |
| 18:27.51 | cr2 | to be more accurate. |
| 18:27.51 | psokolovsky | cr2, from h4300 rom, yeah? |
| 18:27.53 | pH5 | yuck, forgot to compile in ext2 |
| 18:28.05 | cr2 | psokolovsky: yes. |
| 18:28.09 | asylumed | psokolovsky: yip.. pretty much exactly the same as i've done (except s/h4000/blueangel/) |
| 18:28.26 | psokolovsky | cr2, so, I have no idea. Shawn did it. |
| 18:28.47 | psokolovsky | asylumed, so, pls try Roman's patch on your convenience... |
| 18:29.04 | asylumed | k |
| 18:29.09 | psokolovsky | cr2, I now have related annoying task - to detect h4100 vs h4300 |
| 18:29.46 | psokolovsky | cr2, I obviously don't want to fish for rom patterns, and going to take a bite of asic3 SPI differences, based on h4300_kbd |
| 18:30.54 | psokolovsky | cr2, your bet - will i succeed? ;-) |
| 18:30.58 | cr2 | check the asic3 alt setup ? do you have spi bits set on h4100 ? |
| 18:32.27 | cr2 | btw, you can try to use the blueangel spi keyboard code. it is the same on hw6500 and hw6900. a good candidate for asic3_spi. |
| 18:33.02 | psokolovsky | cr2, all I know is that on h4100 enabling SPI irq gives flood of them, apaprently that's how it processes floating inputs |
| 18:33.30 | psokolovsky | cr2, I would, if I had h4300 to test. I don't even have good contact for... |
| 18:33.32 | cr2 | but there is a difference. blueangel/h4300 do not use SPI_CS, while zaurus discovery and hw6*** use it. |
| 18:34.21 | psokolovsky | weird |
| 18:34.30 | cr2 | discovery is a japan-only model afaik, and the sharp code is obfuscated shit, so i have no idea why do they have it there. |
| 18:35.22 | cr2 | but, there are some asic3_pwm related bits there. i'll try to deobfuscate them ;) and compare with the blueangel. |
| 18:35.37 | cr2 | who also uses both asic3 pwm channels. |
| 18:37.24 | psokolovsky | nice |
| 18:43.08 | psokolovsky | cr2, ok, where's bit defines for asic3 spi regs? |
| 18:46.55 | cr2 | psokolovsky: is just a guesswork afaik. |
| 18:47.30 | psokolovsky | cr2, we need to introduce them into ipaq-asic3.h |
| 18:48.12 | psokolovsky | cr2, well now i see concern that h4300_kbd.c reads from the same place it writes to. well, I bet "write" part if completely dummy ;-) |
| 18:48.22 | cr2 | reminded me about my old zaurus sl5500, where nobody bothered to write an spi driver. so everythings is fscked up with the old sharp 2.4 binary driver ;) |
| 18:49.05 | psokolovsky | scancode = asic3_spi_process_byte(0); |
| 18:49.09 | cr2 | i can confirm the BA code regs and bits are the same on hw6*** |
| 18:49.26 | psokolovsky | ok |
| 18:49.29 | cr2 | that's why i'd like to see the h4300 binary code. |
| 18:49.44 | cr2 | psokolovsky: that's not so simple. |
| 18:49.56 | psokolovsky | cr2, with good guess, h4300_kbd might have been written based on discovery code... |
| 18:50.34 | cr2 | the spi init code does some writing on the 'read' port too, but probably only to set the low level. |
| 18:50.54 | asylumed | psokolovsky: asic3_base_ack_parent_irq.patch? |
| 18:50.55 | cr2 | psokolovsky: do you think it was different for other phones :) |
| 18:51.07 | psokolovsky | cr2, need to try and read kbd ccontroller datasheet |
| 18:51.13 | psokolovsky | asylumed, yes |
| 18:51.26 | asylumed | psokolovsky: doesn't help :( |
| 18:51.36 | cr2 | psokolovsky: no way on hw6*** or blueangel. |
| 18:51.37 | psokolovsky | asylumed, weird! |
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| 18:52.11 | cr2 | it's either a programmed microcontroller (on blueangel) or a GL chipset (on hw6***) |
| 18:52.20 | psokolovsky | asylumed, pls send me your patches, I'll have a look. maybe asic3 mis-initialization? |
| 18:52.33 | asylumed | k... |
| 18:52.37 | asylumed | 1 sec... |
| 18:53.01 | psokolovsky | cr2, "H43xx Keyboard EM78P451AQ 0326R BG36P3 http://www.emc.com.tw/database/Data_Sheet/8BIT/EM78P451.pdf (Perhaps keyboard controller???)" |
| 18:54.48 | psokolovsky | links' not dead fortunately |
| 18:55.17 | psokolovsky | 8-Bit Microcontroller |
| 18:55.18 | psokolovsky | with OTP ROM |
| 18:55.19 | psokolovsky | lol |
| 18:55.21 | cr2 | heh. |
| 18:55.30 | cr2 | ba uses PIC16* |
| 18:55.53 | psokolovsky | but it's native SPI at least |
| 18:56.12 | cr2 | you should just try the ba code on h4300 :) |
| 18:56.47 | psokolovsky | if I had one... |
| 18:56.47 | cr2 | hmm. then some h4300 owner should be found. |
| 18:57.20 | cr2 | ok, then we should find where the keyboard is handled. |
| 18:57.37 | cr2 | do you have a keybdr.dll |
| 18:57.39 | cr2 | ? |
| 18:57.51 | cr2 | i think on ba it was a different dll. |
| 18:58.09 | cr2 | asylumed: can you check it ? |
| 18:58.14 | psokolovsky | cr2, trying to catch good hacky person for some time. Of course, Shawn can be pinged too ;-) |
| 18:58.33 | psokolovsky | cr2, nope, and I'm not fancy disassembling sth ;-) |
| 18:58.40 | psokolovsky | I have h3900 bootloader in my queue ;-) |
| 18:58.48 | asylumed | cr2: sorry, not focusing... what you need tried? |
| 18:58.54 | psokolovsky | cr2, or you mean h4100? |
| 18:59.10 | cr2 | asylumed: the keyboard driver. (dll) |
| 18:59.17 | cr2 | psokolovsky: yes. |
| 18:59.26 | asylumed | k... will post it somewhere? |
| 18:59.38 | cr2 | asylumed: i think it was Qkey* something. |
| 19:00.41 | cr2 | btw, does it work for you in 2.6 ? i did a bad job merging 2.6.12 into 2.6.16, but it compiles at least ;) |
| 19:01.23 | asylumed | imaginatively names QwertyKey.dll |
| 19:01.34 | psokolovsky | cr2, keybddr.dll ? 22528 |
| 19:01.41 | psokolovsky | that's all for *key*.dll |
| 19:01.41 | pH5 | cr2: cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp test successful. |
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| 19:02.46 | cr2 | pH5: hmm. |
| 19:03.43 | goxboxlive | cr2: Have you joined kernel-discussion maeling list yet? |
| 19:04.19 | cr2 | goxboxlive: yes, but i have no time to write there ;) |
| 19:04.52 | goxboxlive | np, but did you read the mail about the sound driver? |
| 19:05.14 | psokolovsky | cr2, so, I don't see gross differences in h4300_kbd & blueangel_kp.c code |
| 19:05.17 | cr2 | yes. |
| 19:05.51 | psokolovsky | cr2, execpt for +_IPAQ_ASIC3_SPI_Control) | 0x8000) in BA |
| 19:05.58 | cr2 | psokolovsky: i'd like to look at the wince code first, so we'll then just dump the h4300 code. |
| 19:06.14 | psokolovsky | cr2, ok. |
| 19:07.15 | cr2 | because the hw6***/blueangel version is more generic, and supports the full duplex communication. |
| 19:07.27 | psokolovsky | cr2, so, h4300 does |0x20, BA - |0x8000, that's all |
| 19:07.59 | psokolovsky | cr2, I don't ahve issues with what will be the base for asic3_spi, and hope Shawn will be ok with that... |
| 19:08.10 | asylumed | hehe: the blueangel_kp code is perhaps a little overweight |
| 19:08.46 | asylumed | cr2: http://asylumed.za.net/QwertyKey.dll? |
| 19:08.51 | cr2 | asylumed: it should be splitted into asic3_spi keyboard code and the buttons. |
| 19:09.00 | cr2 | support code. |
| 19:09.02 | cr2 | thanks. |
| 19:09.06 | asylumed | yeah... done it here locally... |
| 19:09.13 | cr2 | great. |
| 19:09.19 | asylumed | but having issues getting the tsc2200 code stable... :/ |
| 19:09.29 | psokolovsky | asylumed, I'd say, h4300_kbd is more clean for me ;-). but it's buggy a bit right now ;-) |
| 19:09.58 | cr2 | asylumed: it it a soc driver now ? |
| 19:10.08 | asylumed | yeah... |
| 19:10.11 | cr2 | ok. |
| 19:10.27 | asylumed | with a driver for tsc2200_base and tsc2200_buttons |
| 19:10.38 | cr2 | better unstable, than #include "../himalaya/*" |
| 19:10.40 | asylumed | all info supplied via platform_data... |
| 19:10.51 | cr2 | ok, but what about spi ? |
| 19:10.52 | asylumed | hehe... for sure :P |
| 19:11.08 | asylumed | callbacks for sending data... |
| 19:11.15 | asylumed | like the tsc2101 |
| 19:11.24 | cr2 | do you init the nssp yourself ? |
| 19:11.43 | asylumed | yeah... |
| 19:11.51 | asylumed | it looks very machine specific... |
| 19:11.57 | cr2 | maybe the generic spi layer is an overkill. |
| 19:12.03 | asylumed | (not the ssp, just the parameters) |
| 19:12.14 | cr2 | ok. |
| 19:12.20 | rob_w | hey dudes .. how is the progress |
| 19:12.53 | pH5 | cr2: devastating, most of the magician .18 stuff is already in hh.org cvs from when I "backported" it to 2.6.17. seems I didn't achieve much, lately. |
| 19:13.30 | asylumed | cr2: would the whole dump be useful at all? (from the blueangel) |
| 19:13.37 | cr2 | pH5: ;) |
| 19:13.49 | cr2 | asylumed: i can decode an update. |
| 19:14.16 | asylumed | np |
| 19:14.28 | goxboxlive | cr2 / psoskolovsky : You had some qustions about our sounddriver to pH5. I dont remember what is was, but i guess yuo guys do. |
| 19:14.29 | cr2 | pH5: the most ugly code now it the asic3 clock management, and the asic3_owm. |
| 19:14.56 | cr2 | goxboxlive: the driver works for him. |
| 19:15.03 | goxboxlive | hmm ok |
| 19:15.40 | psokolovsky | pH5, let's work on common CVS, not local trees ;-) |
| 19:15.44 | cr2 | goxboxlive: i can't compile opie in angstrom. it whines about the blabla-gnueabi-static |
| 19:16.08 | psokolovsky | goxboxlive, pH5? Nope, that likely was Giorgio |
| 19:16.50 | goxboxlive | cr2: Yes that's right. you have to enable gnuebai in the defconfig |
| 19:17.16 | goxboxlive | psokolovsky And pH5. |
| 19:17.24 | psokolovsky | cr2, any opie doesn't build with angstrom OOB now, need small patch |
| 19:17.33 | cr2 | goxboxlive: where ? |
| 19:18.20 | pH5 | psokolovsky: sure, I'm just preparing to push, but that's mostly uninteresting stuff like header fixes. |
| 19:18.20 | goxboxlive | org.openembedded.dev/packages/linux-handhelds-2.6/htcuniversal/defconfig |
| 19:18.50 | cr2 | goxboxlive: ok. |
| 19:19.12 | goxboxlive | cr2: with a hack you are able to build opie. Not the one you told me, but another one. You have it in the mtn diff files i ahev sendt you |
| 19:19.29 | psokolovsky | pH5, ok. I also started to maintain kernel notes in wiki, feel free to add: http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/DeveloperDocuments |
| 19:19.43 | cr2 | oe seems to be a very fragile infrastructure. |
| 19:19.47 | cr2 | goxboxlive: ok. |
| 19:20.15 | psokolovsky | cr2, it doesn't, just need some maintenance in some dark corners ;-) |
| 19:20.50 | goxboxlive | I realy want to say that it has been a lot bether the last half year. |
| 19:21.16 | goxboxlive | But that's probably because it has a lot bether support for the Universal now |
| 19:21.37 | cr2 | :) |
| 19:23.57 | goxboxlive | psokolovsky : You should realy think about selling your hx4700 and rahter buy a Universal. Just think about it. oday you carrie both your cell phone and PDA aroung to work/school. With the Uni, you anly have to carrie one device, and that includes a keyboard. :-) |
| 19:24.55 | psokolovsky | goxboxlive, I don't own hx, it was contributed fo development ;-) |
| 19:25.05 | goxboxlive | ok :-) |
| 19:25.21 | psokolovsky | hx is too expensive a toy for me, while that I have lotsa of them already ;-) |
| 19:26.56 | goxboxlive | They have stoped the sale of hx4700 here i Norway. I dont know why. |
| 19:27.29 | psokolovsky | goxboxlive, it's out of prod for a year, I guess. still expensive in this part of world |
| 19:27.55 | goxboxlive | so it will be in the shops again? |
| 19:28.17 | psokolovsky | I mean, 2nd hand is still expensive |
| 19:28.21 | psokolovsky | ~$400 |
| 19:30.33 | goxboxlive | i c |
| 19:30.48 | cr2 | goxboxlive: universal is also a kind of dead device :) |
| 19:31.05 | cr2 | because there is no successor for the pxa27x |
| 19:31.34 | goxboxlive | Yes, but it is still for sale in the shops here, and it is still cost allmost €1000 |
| 19:31.40 | cr2 | but unless samsung & ko. will produce a better cpu, it will be still the best :) |
| 19:31.58 | cr2 | goxboxlive: it's Norway :) |
| 19:32.18 | cr2 | you have the money :) |
| 19:32.21 | pH5 | It's not just about the CPU. I would love a device like the hermes, but with VGA and a graphics chipset with linux support. When's that gonna happen? |
| 19:32.39 | goxboxlive | It is strange that they dont want to produce the hx4700 anymore. I mean it is the best of the PDA's . |
| 19:33.02 | WizMaui | time to catch the omap train ;) |
| 19:33.07 | psokolovsky | actually, all hardware suck tremendously, OSes suck moderately, and only applications are so-so good stuff ;-) |
| 19:33.11 | cr2 | pH5: is it for real that openmoko has 2.8" VGA LCD ? looks strange to me ;) |
| 19:33.28 | pH5 | yup, but no keyboard and hsdpa, that's a killer. |
| 19:33.40 | psokolovsky | goxboxlive, wellcome to real world. people want *new*, not good. |
| 19:33.52 | FossiFoo | and even then, most of the stuff is freeware at best |
| 19:34.10 | goxboxlive | cr2: well i guess as long as the oil in the Northsea is still available, but the day it's empty we dont have much to offer. |
| 19:34.11 | cr2 | psokolovsky: all htc stuff after blueangel is shit. imho. |
| 19:34.15 | psokolovsky | FossiFoo, we do OSS here ;-) |
| 19:34.24 | FossiFoo | i mean, all the ftp programs and explorer i looked at sucked |
| 19:34.30 | cr2 | goxboxlive: you also have gas. |
| 19:34.40 | FossiFoo | i couldn't get the samba shares to run on my prophet so far |
| 19:34.54 | goxboxlive | cr2: I know, but one they there is no more. |
| 19:35.00 | FossiFoo | even though the resco explorer detects the ip right, it can't connect |
| 19:35.00 | psokolovsky | FossiFoo, you mean wince or linux? |
| 19:35.04 | FossiFoo | wince |
| 19:35.06 | goxboxlive | s/they/day/ |
| 19:35.16 | cr2 | ok. |
| 19:35.22 | FossiFoo | i'm happy i even got linux to boot ;) |
| 19:35.46 | WizMaui | omap platform is still lacking linux developers ;) |
| 19:35.58 | psokolovsky | Don't treat my claim above to narrow - *all* OSes suck, and wince, and linux, and any other. level of suckiness differs though ;-) |
| 19:35.59 | WizMaui | apart from the ti sample boards |
| 19:36.51 | cr2 | FossiFoo: i mean it really. unless somebody will extend haret to do real hw debugging on omapXXX and s3X24XX, the project will not succeed. |
| 19:36.52 | FossiFoo | well, you can't say much to linux on pdas when a big part of them don't even run linux |
| 19:37.07 | FossiFoo | or at least without support of half of the hardware that's in them |
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| 19:37.27 | pierrox | hi |
| 19:37.33 | WizMaui | we need that somebody ;) |
| 19:37.46 | cr2 | hi pierrox |
| 19:37.51 | FossiFoo | i'll look into it. don't know if i'm knowledgable enough though |
| 19:38.08 | FossiFoo | i kinda doubt it |
| 19:38.14 | pierrox | hi cr2 |
| 19:38.17 | FossiFoo | and i don't have nowhere enough time i guess |
| 19:38.28 | psokolovsky | FossiFoo, that's purely philosophical stuff, don't take too direct ;-) I have a nice app on wince, I can't run it on linux now. What's guilty? The OSes! They complicate life, thus suck ;-) |
| 19:38.36 | cr2 | WizMaui: i've sat, read the pxa manual, looked at hte linux kernel code, and written that stuff. no black magic. a lot of functions are already portable. |
| 19:39.07 | cr2 | to any wince device, even non-arm ones. |
| 19:39.07 | pierrox | +1 |
| 19:39.07 | pierrox | sorry |
| 19:39.09 | WizMaui | the basic things works already ;) |
| 19:39.32 | WizMaui | currently it's gpios and drivers ;) |
| 19:39.52 | cr2 | psokolovsky: port wine :) |
| 19:40.38 | psokolovsky | cr2, greatest point in my todo list! what do you think I'm doing now? gathering my frustration to assault on it! ;-) |
| 19:41.22 | cr2 | i don't think it's difficult to write "dump omapserial" instead of "dump pxa27xserial", but it helps a lot. |
| 19:41.49 | WizMaui | hmmm |
| 19:41.59 | cr2 | psokolovsky: we need to finish with asic3 first ;) |
| 19:44.16 | psokolovsky | cr2, yep, and with many other things too ;-). I need much of frustration to start on that, I'm lazy and hope someone else will do that wine/ce ;-) |
| 19:45.43 | cr2 | psokolovsky: it's actually the dynamic loader/linker that needs some attention. People will do the rest with the coredll. |
| 19:46.27 | cr2 | the coredll is nothing more but a jumptable. just invites you to replace the pointers :D |
| 19:47.36 | psokolovsky | cr2, i hope, but my initial assessment showed that PE loader likely more easy task then to port wine win32api impl to wince api (much dumb, but error-prone work) |
| 19:48.03 | cr2 | i was even thinking, it may be possible to translate ecoff to elf to save the dirty job. |
| 19:48.27 | cr2 | and wince loader is much cleaner implemented than a x86 pe loader. |
| 19:48.46 | psokolovsky | yeah, possibly |
| 19:48.52 | cr2 | looking at the x86 asm just hurts my eyes. |
| 19:49.17 | cr2 | no backwards compatibility, no crap. |
| 19:49.36 | cr2 | and you don't need to implement the whole coredll anyway. |
| 19:49.37 | psokolovsky | cr2, there're quite a few open-source PE loaders already |
| 19:50.09 | psokolovsky | would be nice to have "hello world" concept out... |-) |
| 19:50.10 | cr2 | i remember running solitair in linux in 1995. that was amazing :D |
| 19:50.15 | psokolovsky | ;-) |
| 19:50.44 | cr2 | a few ? |
| 19:51.01 | psokolovsky | yep, 3 at least I saw |
| 19:51.22 | cr2 | ok. |
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| 19:54.49 | cr2 | psokolovsky: do you know if axim x30 have asic3 ? |
| 19:56.26 | psokolovsky | cr2, afaik, axims are on their own asic/cpld crap. |
| 19:56.46 | psokolovsky | cr2, I recently added CPLDs, etc to HHX |
| 19:57.19 | psokolovsky | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:57.35 | cr2 | ok, so i'll remove it from here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=ASIC3 |
| 19:57.52 | cr2 | the CVS code was probably just copied from hx4700 |
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| 19:58.16 | florian | re |
| 19:59.39 | psokolovsky | cr2, well, I got my info from x30 page in hh wiki, it didn't mention asic3, didn't disassembled device myself. the disclaimer ;-) |
| 19:59.43 | psokolovsky | Hi! |
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| 20:49.04 | scatterp | cr2 you said |
| 20:49.04 | scatterp | [17:27] <cr2> scatterp: it's ok to get a black screen, but the you'll get the calibration screen |
| 20:49.13 | scatterp | i get the calibration screen |
| 20:49.28 | scatterp | with a flashing (black screen cursor) |
| 20:49.45 | scatterp | typeing ls i get a black screen output |
| 21:01.27 | cr2 | scatterp: it's a bug in this version |
| 21:01.48 | cr2 | asylumed: what happens with the brightness data on suspend ? |
| 21:02.54 | scatterp | cr2 is there an alternate version with out the bug either newer or older ? |
| 21:11.52 | goxboxlive | cr2: I can see that yo have expanded the debug messages with the soundriver. I'll get a message like: errot: exhausted retries |
| 21:12.16 | goxboxlive | i can paste the output at pastebin if you like |
| 21:15.51 | goxboxlive | cr2: It seems like there is a problem with i2c pxa adapter, am i right here? |
| 21:15.56 | goxboxlive | http://pastebin.ca/248617 |
| 21:18.46 | cr2 | goxboxlive: there is a problem communicating stuff on the i2c bus. |
| 21:19.24 | goxboxlive | ok, can we fix it ? Or do we need more info? |
| 21:19.39 | cr2 | i would have suspected the gpioa0, which has something to do with the i2c bus access, but the code was working on .12 where we did not care about it too... |
| 21:26.28 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 21:26.34 | goxboxlive | scatterp: Are you there? |
| 21:28.01 | cr2 | goxboxlive: can you add the i2c* tools from lm_sensors package to the opie image ? |
| 21:28.45 | goxboxlive | cr2: I can try, is the name of the package lm_sensors? |
| 21:29.38 | cr2 | irdadump, hcidump, i2cdetect, i2cget, i2cset are the core debugging tools for us. |
| 21:29.47 | cr2 | package |
| 21:29.49 | cr2 | ? |
| 21:30.00 | goxboxlive | If it's not in the OE i cant do it. Need to add it manualy then |
| 21:30.50 | cr2 | ok. looking for it. |
| 21:31.28 | goxboxlive | irdadumo is in the OE, i can add it to Opie. |
| 21:32.57 | goxboxlive | hcidump too |
| 21:33.36 | goxboxlive | and i can add lm_sensors app. |
| 21:40.02 | lkcl | yes you can goboxlive: you create your own package, and you create your own distro (based on the one you're currently using) or you can add the package specifically to the hardware-build-spec-file |
| 21:40.21 | lkcl | i assume you're using openembedded toolchain, that abortion known as monotone? |
| 21:40.28 | cr2 | ./packages/lm_sensors/lmsensors-apps_2.10.0.bb |
| 21:40.34 | lkcl | that's the one. |
| 21:40.41 | cr2 | lkcl: i've answered your e-mail. |
| 21:40.45 | lkcl | ack dude :) |
| 21:44.45 | goxboxlive | yes i have added the packages, lm_sensors, irdadump and hci-dump |
| 21:47.28 | lkcl | i want a phone, first, cr2! |
| 21:48.35 | lkcl | i like doing the weird stuff that nobody else will go near. there are plenty of lcd and backlight drivers i can cut/paste, and there's even ak4641 code that can be cut/paste to vaguely work. the phone, however, falls into that 'no prior examples' category |
| 21:52.21 | cr2 | :) ok. |
| 21:56.00 | goxboxlive | cr2: The opie-image with the developers tools are uploaded. Now go and get it and fix the sound :-) |
| 21:56.09 | cr2 | about gps: you can try to gather the 0xc0 packet data. it is special for some reason. |
| 21:56.16 | goxboxlive | Use the provieded zImage |
| 21:56.32 | cr2 | goxboxlive: fix ? :) |
| 21:56.44 | goxboxlive | yes |
| 21:57.03 | goxboxlive | get it working so i can make a call :-) |
| 21:59.41 | cr2 | lkcl: i'll compile the new haret, that tries to dump the rilgsm. |
| 21:59.45 | lkcl | ack dude |
| 22:00.11 | lkcl | the sales guy who works for global locate is a LYING FUCKING IDIOT. |
| 22:02.37 | cr2 | lkcl: he is paid money for that, it's his job. |
| 22:03.32 | pof | hi cr2 |
| 22:03.43 | cr2 | get over, we will work without this data, and learn interesting things in the process. |
| 22:03.50 | cr2 | hi pof |
| 22:03.57 | pof | look at query pls |
| 22:04.26 | cr2 | yes, but i can only read, not write. keep that in mind ;) |
| 22:05.10 | pof | why ? |
| 22:05.55 | cr2 | lkcl: what are our chances to get openmoko stuff in advance ? is it NDA ? |
| 22:06.00 | cr2 | pof: don't know. |
| 22:06.29 | FossiFoo | what did they tell you? :) |
| 22:07.47 | cr2 | FossiFoo: he didn't want to tell where is the pseudorange data in the SPI datastream and such stuff. |
| 22:07.55 | lkcl | <befroni@globallocate.com>: host mail.globallocate.com[216.15.9.43] said: 550 |
| 22:07.56 | lkcl | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:07.56 | lkcl | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:07.59 | lkcl | ah hahahahahhaah! |
| 22:08.18 | lkcl | i got the xxxxing idiot _so_ wound up he blocked my email address!! ahahahahahahah |
| 22:09.34 | cr2 | lkcl: relax. |
| 22:11.42 | lkcl | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:47.52 | lamikr | cr2: Hi and thanks for help on yesterday... I was today on eye laser operation (want to get rid of eyeclasses) and need to be today a free day from starring computer... (I am wearing sunclasses even it's dark night in here :-) |
| 23:49.21 | scatterp | lamikr dont risk it come back tomorow |
| 23:49.23 | scatterp | lol |
| 23:53.12 | lamikr | yes, night! |