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| 16:09.43 | BOGDAN-S | sal e vreun roman paici? |
| 16:09.57 | BOGDAN-S | ? |
| 16:10.54 | BOGDAN-S | haw install linux on mi imate pda2k? |
| 16:10.57 | BOGDAN-S | pls |
| 16:11.24 | BOGDAN-S | ???? |
| 16:12.56 | Fossi | BOGDAN-S: i don't know what device that is, but the wiki should tell you. it maybe also has some instructions |
| 16:13.25 | pH5 | BOGDAN-S: imate pda2k is htc blueangel? |
| 16:13.26 | pH5 | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blueangel |
| 16:13.42 | BOGDAN-S | i tride but not work |
| 16:14.26 | Fossi | what didn't work? |
| 16:14.53 | BOGDAN-S | to format SD 4G |
| 16:15.32 | BOGDAN-S | IS imate pda2k spanis |
| 16:16.12 | pH5 | BOGDAN-S: http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/BlueAngel also has detailed instructions |
| 16:19.35 | BOGDAN-S | i dont now to format SD 4G |
| 16:19.43 | BOGDAN-S | for linux |
| 16:23.08 | Fossi | BOGDAN-S: see second link |
| 16:23.18 | Fossi | installation instructions, step 2 |
| 16:24.47 | BOGDAN-S | yes but is not work fdisk /dev/sda fdisk /dev/sda1 |
| 16:25.18 | Fossi | i think you can also just use fat32 partitions, but then the kernel would have to support that and i don't know if the standard one does |
| 16:25.30 | Fossi | BOGDAN-S: you try that from linux, right? |
| 16:25.41 | Fossi | you are running linux and know how it works? |
| 16:25.43 | BOGDAN-S | no |
| 16:25.48 | BOGDAN-S | from wm |
| 16:26.04 | Fossi | you need to format the sd card from linux |
| 16:26.42 | BOGDAN-S | from linux on mi pc? |
| 16:27.20 | BOGDAN-S | i have card rider....... |
| 16:27.25 | Fossi | yes, you either need a card reader |
| 16:27.30 | Fossi | ok, that's cool |
| 16:27.40 | Fossi | but yes, from linux on your pc |
| 16:27.58 | Fossi | i guess you can use a cd distro if you don't have linux installed |
| 16:28.23 | BOGDAN-S | i dont have linux instaled |
| 16:28.38 | Fossi | but if you don't know linux i think trying to run it on a phone is not the easiest start :) |
| 16:29.50 | BOGDAN-S | i now a litle |
| 16:29.57 | BOGDAN-S | :) |
| 16:32.39 | Fossi | ok, then use a boot cd |
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| 16:33.02 | Fossi | or try to run the kernel on fat32 only, don't know if that works though |
| 16:33.58 | BOGDAN-S | hmmm.. |
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| 17:10.23 | goxboxlive | goo'day |
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| 17:53.32 | goxboxlive | psokolovsky: Are you around? |
| 17:55.13 | goxboxlive | For some days ago i saw you aplied a patch to xmodmap for IPAQ devices. I have done the same for Universal, but wich files other than xserver-common needs to be cleaned to get the patched files installed? |
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| 18:14.42 | psokolovsky | Hi! |
| 18:14.59 | psokolovsky | goxboxlive, kernel keyboard driver should use those keycodes |
| 18:19.59 | goxboxlive | I am using loadkeys to add the special symbols on my keyboard, do you mean that i should instead add thoose keycodes there, and not to xmodmap? Will they also open in example calender. |
| 18:34.51 | psokolovsky | goxboxlive, PDA's design (vs XDA/smarphone) solution is yes, have right default kernel keymap. loadkeys is to *modify* it for user's purpose. |
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| 18:35.27 | goxboxlive | ok thx . |
| 18:35.58 | goxboxlive | pskokolovsky: Are you going to mainitain Opie2 in OE if it will be available in OE? |
| 18:38.55 | psokolovsky | goxboxlive, why? there will be more active people to maintain it ;-) |
| 18:39.11 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 18:39.13 | goxboxlive | i c |
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| 19:43.20 | goxboxlive | hi cr2 |
| 19:45.19 | cr2 | hi |
| 19:45.32 | BabelO | hi cr2 |
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| 19:48.09 | cr2 | lamikr: do you have snow now ? |
| 19:49.17 | goxboxlive | Here we usually have snow at this time of year, but now it is just wet wet wet. The global heating is really showing of . |
| 19:49.29 | cr2 | i'm looking at the webcam pics here http://www.tiehallinto.fi/alk/frames/kelikamerat-frame.html |
| 19:49.45 | cr2 | the daytime pictures do not have snow. |
| 19:50.54 | goxboxlive | hmm no snow in soumi either. |
| 19:51.54 | cr2 | looks ugly for december. |
| 19:53.41 | cr2 | goxboxlive: i've seen that you have updated the hh.org wiki for universal. |
| 19:53.44 | lamikr | cr2: No, I was skiin 2 times one about 5-6 weeks when we had 2 weeks lot of snow. After that there has been about dark and wet about 5 weeks... and +5 - +10 degrees :-( |
| 19:54.39 | goxboxlive | cr2: Yes, did it today. I removed the .12 stuff. |
| 19:54.41 | cr2 | lamikr: it should be nice at the hill where we have been, when it's -5-10 :) |
| 19:55.08 | cr2 | goxboxlive: but not completely. |
| 19:55.21 | goxboxlive | lamikr: Do you live in south or north of finland |
| 19:56.01 | goxboxlive | cr2: No, not install part. Just status. Maybe i should remove also the install stuff |
| 19:57.10 | cr2 | goxboxlive: we should create a new installer package, that will copy its modules to SD at boot. |
| 20:01.37 | lamikr | cr2: Yeah, that hill was already in full snow and I was sliding down with iiris, but not anymore in this kind of weather. snifff |
| 20:02.25 | lamikr | goxboxlive: I live in the center finland, a relative small city called Jyvaskyla |
| 20:03.35 | cr2 | :) |
| 20:06.13 | lamikr | cr2 and goxboxlive: I will need to be a little inactive for a next couple of weeks :-( I will finally try to write my university end work.. (master thesis). I have now some good time for a couple of weeks... |
| 20:06.34 | cr2 | of course. |
| 20:08.47 | lamikr | I see from irc log you have done great progress? |
| 20:09.52 | cr2 | lamikr: almost everything is working. the cams have more or less working drivers. |
| 20:10.13 | cr2 | we don't have any _major_ hardware issues. |
| 20:10.47 | lamikr | cr2: really nice! So you have got the voice over bt also working? |
| 20:10.55 | cr2 | i'm more concerned how to control and put all together. |
| 20:11.18 | cr2 | the BT is connected to ak4641, making it a very complex switch. |
| 20:11.38 | cr2 | we need a monster mixer with >20 controls ;) |
| 20:12.03 | lamikr | cr2: But you have basically already tested all mixer switches? |
| 20:12.40 | cr2 | i have spend 2 hours yesterday looking for the i2c bits for single switches and plotting them on a block diagram. |
| 20:13.07 | cr2 | it is going to be really complex. |
| 20:14.14 | cr2 | i'm curious now how to hide this complexity from the user. |
| 20:14.25 | cr2 | from the normal user :) |
| 20:17.31 | lamikr | tsc2101 has also some of the mixer elements still un-implemented. I have implemented only those which are neccessary for headset/loudspeaker/gsm/mixer + master volume. But there are registries that I have not tested, which could control the bass-level, etc. |
| 20:17.48 | cr2 | internal mic, external mic or the BT DAC can be selected, the rest of the audio path is the same. |
| 20:18.21 | cr2 | and you can reroute the mic -> ADC - I2S -> DAC -> phone |
| 20:18.50 | cr2 | and record the talk. |
| 20:18.51 | lamikr | Do you have 2 loudspeakers? One for ringing tone/conference calls and one for normal case where you have telephone near to your ear? |
| 20:19.28 | cr2 | one (2) on the clamshell, like on the normal phone, and 2 stereo speakers. |
| 20:19.49 | cr2 | 2 on the clamshell, because you can turn it 180 degrees. |
| 20:20.00 | cr2 | so 4 speakers. |
| 20:20.19 | cr2 | but the clamshell speakers are under the phone control. |
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| 20:20.27 | lamikr | Can you have all 4 turned on simultaneously? |
| 20:20.32 | cr2 | yes. |
| 20:20.45 | cr2 | and the headset too |
| 20:20.52 | cr2 | and BT headset too. |
| 20:21.04 | cr2 | 6 speakers :) |
| 20:21.46 | cr2 | they all can work simultaneously. and you can record the sound at the same time. |
| 20:21.51 | lamikr | tsc2101 has some restrictions, if you select something, certain other things are turned off. |
| 20:21.53 | cr2 | DRM nightmare :) |
| 20:22.14 | cr2 | ok. |
| 20:23.13 | lamikr | Then there are some voltage controls, like whether to have 2.5, 3.3 or 5v. (do not remember now exactly) I have not touched those much as I have been a little bit worried of not breaking anything. |
| 20:26.42 | lamikr | cr2: Do you have any specs for your one, or only the i2c recorder ones? |
| 20:27.39 | cr2 | full specs. |
| 20:28.09 | cr2 | but everything is controlled over 0x13 i2c registers. |
| 20:28.12 | cr2 | 19 |
| 20:29.23 | lamikr | ok |
| 20:32.17 | lamikr | cr2: Do you have any new apps in mind for the userspace controlling, or are you planning to use the existing apps as a base? |
| 20:37.39 | cr2 | i don't think there is some userfriendly app |
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| 20:37.56 | cr2 | but there should be some (semi)professional sound mixer apps. |
| 20:41.48 | lamikr | cr2: Me neither... I am not sure should the phones have some super state machine daemon running. In addition of handling the stuff like battery and suspend/resume like apmd for example does, there is need to know when phone call is on going (so do not suspend even user has not pressed for anything for a while), mixer changes if headphone is connected, cpu hz scaling to down/up if needed, etc. |
| 20:44.22 | cr2 | but it's the kernel-level stuff |
| 20:44.58 | cr2 | i don't think the kernel should send AT@AUDIOSET=x,y,z,t\n to the modem port. |
| 20:45.06 | lamikr | Not always... h6300 gets the battery info from userspace with at commands... |
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| 20:46.03 | cr2 | yes, the AT commands should go to userspace |
| 20:46.19 | cr2 | but handling the wakeup interrupt is done in hardware. |
| 20:46.32 | lamikr | No, it shouldn't. With state machine daemon, I meant some user level daemon... Either one extended apmd kind of monster, or clueing smaller apps together with "one to many" dbus messages... |
| 20:48.03 | lamikr | yes, with h6300, the handling of wakeup for the serial port activity (=incoming phone call) is also done in the hardware irq to kernel. With omap1510 the code for doing that was very different than for omap1710, but luckily I found it. |
| 20:50.51 | lamikr | Same also for the power button press. When device is running and we press power button, we send irq to userspace which calls "echo mem > /sys/power/state" but when we are sleep, omap is configured to wakeup from button press, but irq is not delivered to key driver&userspace. |
| 20:51.59 | cr2 | ok, it's the same everywhere. |
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| 21:00.16 | goxboxlive | cr2: Why is the screen rotation removed? I need it to trying to implement it to GPE. |
| 21:00.50 | lamikr | goxboxlive: "xrand -s <number>" ? |
| 21:01.34 | lamikr | And one of the gpe |
| 21:02.23 | lamikr | And one of the gpe's util/config has compobox from where user can select the screen orientation... I do not remember now witch one, but some screen* related. |
| 21:02.44 | goxboxlive | lamikr: I know, but i am talking about the an /dev/input/eventx |
| 21:03.00 | lamikr | ok |
| 21:03.19 | goxboxlive | so we can have automatic xcreen rotation, like we had in Opie |
| 21:05.47 | lamikr | so how you controlled that in Opie? |
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| 21:17.51 | goxboxlive | There where some odevice stuff, and we linked it to /dev/input/eventx , but cr2 has removed the input because of some missing stuff i guess. |
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| 22:11.53 | lamikr | goxboxlive: Ok. Btw, I have also noticed earlier that some of the keyevents newer went to userspace. Try to ask from koen, I think there were some people who had a clue why those got filtered in the xserver/kdrive... |
| 22:12.26 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 22:15.53 | lamikr | there were not much logic which events got dripped, some numbers over 100 went just fine to userspace... I just started to wonder could the grab_key() command used by some app, prevent the delivery to others... |
| 22:33.12 | TripleDES | hmm I have built familiar (my first built) as normal user and now everything is owned by me instead of root...will it work? |
| 23:00.32 | goxboxlive | <TripleDES> No that will mess up rights and a lot of other stuff. Why do you want to do that? |
| 23:01.27 | TripleDES | I didn't, I just thought it'd use fakeroot or something to fix it |
| 23:08.07 | lkcl | cr2, are ya about at all? |
| 23:08.11 | lkcl | loc_15B9A78 |
| 23:08.19 | lkcl | wtf??? |
| 23:10.42 | BabelO | psokolovsky__: are you here ? |
| 23:17.53 | lkcl | looks like this: |
| 23:17.56 | lkcl | 15b9a78 - |
| 23:17.56 | lkcl | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:17.56 | lkcl | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:17.56 | lkcl | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:17.58 | lkcl | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:18.31 | lkcl | what the heck that's doing in wavedev i have _no_ idea. oh well - onward... |
| 23:29.12 | lkcl | argh - it's C9 and GPIO 20. |
| 23:35.30 | pH5 | lkcl: gpio 36 is ffuart_dcd. why would it be gafr-0-ed? |