| 00:18.11 | Kevin2 | cr2: I'm here now. |
| 00:18.26 | Kevin2 | I didn't give up on Apache - it is still my main phone. Just wanted to play with the Hermes too. |
| 00:21.51 | gnafin | ya it would be nice if linux would work on the Apache....wm5... not to good.....and the radio on mine is bad...have lots of drop calles.... |
| 00:22.51 | Kevin2 | Well, you can boot linux on apache today. However, we haven't gotten anywhere on the phone support and that is crucial to using it for day to day purposes. |
| 00:26.11 | cr2 | Kevin2: hi. have a look here http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HermesGPIO |
| 00:26.45 | cr2 | i've committed a patch to the hh.org hermes CVS. |
| 00:30.33 | Kevin2 | But no luck getting it to boot? |
| 00:33.07 | cr2 | no. |
| 00:33.30 | cr2 | i'm uncertain about the clocks setup. |
| 00:34.05 | Kevin2 | I was wondering about that myself. But it seems to fail even before that point. |
| 00:35.48 | gnafin | well hope they get the phone working.....i want to dump MS off of my 6700... |
| 00:36.30 | Kevin2 | Hrmm. Memory bank 4 has no nGCS4 line defined. This kinda makes it unlikely that it is WIFI. |
| 00:37.40 | cr2 | i have not found the "base" address in tiacxwln.dll |
| 00:38.01 | cr2 | so it's open. |
| 00:39.58 | cr2 | the gpios can be traced if you'll take the commands from gnu-haret and put them into mainline haret. |
| 00:41.10 | cr2 | i'd really like to have a correct nk.exe dump. my current one is too broken for a sensible disassembly, and i'd like to look at the wince irq setup. |
| 00:41.39 | Kevin2 | On Apache, wifi and cpld share the same memory space. Maybe hermes is the same. |
| 00:42.26 | Kevin2 | cr2: Have you extended gnu-haret for s3c gpios? |
| 00:44.41 | cr2 | not really. |
| 00:45.00 | cr2 | i'm talking about the cpu-indepenent functions. |
| 00:45.34 | cr2 | like TIACXWLN, BT, IR, BKL and LCD powerup/down control. |
| 00:46.11 | Kevin2 | Any chance you can port them over? |
| 00:46.13 | cr2 | the s3c gpio parser would be nice, of course. |
| 00:46.25 | cr2 | you don't need to port them, just copy the code. |
| 00:47.13 | Kevin2 | There is a different command registration syntax, and libraries need to be "late" loaded. |
| 00:47.56 | Kevin2 | On the gpio side, I'm kinda leaning to just having some post processor that will lookup memory addresses and tell you what the registers mean. |
| 00:51.08 | cr2 | ok, maybe i'll do it quick and dirty in gnu-haret for now. |
| 01:10.32 | cr2 | good night. |
| 01:19.03 | Kevin2 | Good night. |
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| 01:46.41 | hellhound | I have the device set to rndis and i verified this through "sudo lshw -businfo | grep usb" and get the output: "usb@5:2 generic Generic RNDIS" |
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| 04:52.42 | sidiasus_ | Good. That's what I wanted to do. |
| 04:54.40 | sidiasus_ | mis |
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| 17:36.42 | goxboxlive | psokolovsky_ We still need our own opie file . We need to have "export QWS_KEYBOARD=USB:/dev/input/event3" added to the /etc/init.d/opie otherwise our keyboard stops working in Opie. |
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| 17:41.40 | cr2 | goxboxlive: hi. i had an impression that opie scans all /dev/input/* files for events. |
| 17:42.26 | cr2 | btw, htcuniversal_acx is not more or less buggy than hx4700_acx. so it's a common problem. |
| 17:43.09 | goxboxlive | hi cr2: keyboard: needs the export in opie. |
| 17:43.26 | goxboxlive | wifi: No, they are able to unload their driver, we arent |
| 17:43.54 | goxboxlive | We should have cleaned it up. |
| 17:45.34 | goxboxlive | Why wireless-tools isent included is strange. It is added in the machine.conf file |
| 17:45.40 | cr2 | i don't see any substantial difference between htcuniversal_acx and hx4700_acx. maybe i'll look again. |
| 17:46.43 | cr2 | if you'll epxort event3 then you will not see event1 and event2. power button and this up/down/left/right/press keypad. |
| 17:48.55 | goxboxlive | realy |
| 17:49.27 | goxboxlive | event0 TS, event1 powerbutton, event2 all the others beside keyboard wich is event3 |
| 17:55.06 | cr2 | ask psokolovsky :) |
| 17:55.13 | cr2 | btw. http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=AthenaMemoryMap |
| 17:55.43 | goxboxlive | have you bought it ? |
| 17:56.02 | cr2 | i'm not crazy. |
| 17:56.28 | goxboxlive | me neither, it's not released up here yet |
| 17:56.36 | goxboxlive | But the price is |
| 17:56.49 | goxboxlive | change NOK 9295 to euro |
| 17:56.55 | goxboxlive | ~change NOK 9295 to euro |
| 17:57.38 | goxboxlive | ~change 9295 NOK to euro |
| 17:58.00 | cr2 | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=AthenaResearch |
| 17:58.30 | cr2 | with 128MB it's a neat device. and with sirf3 gps. |
| 17:58.37 | goxboxlive | are you sure it is acx100? |
| 18:00.34 | cr2 | it's 'g' like in hermes. tiacxwln.dll calls itself acx100. it uses different firmware. |
| 18:00.38 | goxboxlive | yes it is i neat device. But it is to big. It is allmost summer. Its ok to have a big device during winter time with alot of clothes, but not during sumer |
| 18:01.13 | cr2 | i hope the sound is ak4641. and bt is certainly brf6150. |
| 18:01.30 | cr2 | for summer there is a780 :) |
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| 18:08.27 | goxboxlive | Yes i just got a a780 my self. I have tried out gpephone on it. It rely looks good. |
| 18:08.54 | goxboxlive | openmoko didnt fit because of vga |
| 18:16.58 | cr2 | ok. |
| 18:19.24 | goxboxlive | pH5: The ezx gyus hopes you are working on it :-) |
| 18:19.39 | pH5 | goxboxlive: I know ;) |
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| 19:59.59 | cr2 | pH5: do you know why does moko gsmd uses /usr/spool/uucp ? |
| 20:00.45 | pH5 | no. it does? |
| 20:00.57 | cr2 | yes. |
| 20:01.25 | cr2 | it also assumes /dev/ttySAC0 as the serial port. |
| 20:01.43 | cr2 | i thought such weird naming is long in the past. |
| 20:02.04 | pH5 | nah. it doesn't. |
| 20:02.11 | pH5 | or is there strangeness in the init script? |
| 20:02.53 | cr2 | ./packages/gsm/files/fic-gta01/gsmd |
| 20:02.54 | pH5 | ttySAC* is how the S3C guys name their uarts |
| 20:03.28 | cr2 | ttySA* is replaced by ttyS* on SA and PXA long ago. |
| 20:03.52 | pH5 | cr2: why? that must have been before my time. |
| 20:03.52 | cr2 | i always learn something new :) |
| 20:04.20 | cr2 | because it's confusing. |
| 20:04.42 | cr2 | you don't call ttySA1 on magician ? |
| 20:04.59 | pH5 | no, magician is straight pxa272, so ttyS1 |
| 20:05.41 | cr2 | chown uucp.uucp /usr/spool/uucp |
| 20:05.54 | cr2 | i thought it should be /var/spool/uucp |
| 20:06.07 | cr2 | because /usr should be mountable readonly. |
| 20:06.08 | pH5 | cr2: that looks like it is copied straight out of the openmoko wiki for getting thinks going manually |
| 20:06.35 | pH5 | uucp is only needed for cu |
| 20:06.48 | cr2 | it's from gsmd script. |
| 20:06.59 | pH5 | cr2: yeah, I'm just looking at it. |
| 20:07.06 | cr2 | and also this "dialout" stupidity ;) |
| 20:07.19 | cr2 | but afaik it comes from redhat. |
| 20:07.58 | cr2 | stty -F /dev/ttySAC0 crtscts |
| 20:08.12 | cr2 | why not change it to ${GSM_DEV} ? |
| 20:08.50 | pH5 | cr2: probably for the same reason why the uucp stuff is in there at all. |
| 20:09.30 | cr2 | i thought gsmd is setuid uucp ? |
| 20:09.31 | pH5 | device specific setup shouldn't be in the gsmd init script at all |
| 20:10.11 | pH5 | hm.. I don't think so. |
| 20:10.17 | pH5 | currently it's just run as root |
| 20:11.06 | cr2 | lol. |
| 20:11.08 | pH5 | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manually_using_GSM#Connecting_to_GSM_Modem |
| 20:11.14 | pH5 | here's where all those commands come from. |
| 20:11.24 | pH5 | cut&paste job |
| 20:12.05 | cr2 | ok. |
| 20:12.25 | pH5 | http://en.pastebin.ca/402236 |
| 20:12.31 | pH5 | I'll suggest something like this |
| 20:14.15 | cr2 | yeah. it looks good. |
| 20:14.38 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:15.55 | cr2 | http://tui.cvs.sourceforge.net/tui/tui/ |
| 20:16.08 | cr2 | this is the real unix program :) |
| 20:16.29 | cr2 | if done with ncurses. |
| 20:16.45 | pH5 | cr2: should be /etc/default |
| 20:17.17 | pH5 | cr2: :) |
| 20:17.30 | pH5 | ncurses interface + onscreen keyboard on a device without keys |
| 20:18.49 | cr2 | i've learned that mickeyl is a big fan of ncurses. |
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| 20:26.56 | pH5 | cr2: it's faster than the gtk2 pixmap theme for sure. |
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| 22:20.37 | cr2 | Kevin2: do you see the " done, booting the kernel.\n" string ? |
| 22:29.12 | cr2 | Kevin2: the IR serial port on s3c24xx is called ttySAC2 |
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| 23:19.40 | Kevin2 | cr2: Yes. |
| 23:19.49 | Kevin2 | Hrmm. I'll have to try with different serial line then. |
| 23:23.20 | bd2 | Kevin2, Hi! did you had a chance to briefly look at ad7877 changes? |
| 23:25.51 | Kevin2 | Sorry bd2, I haven't. |
| 23:26.11 | Kevin2 | cr2: Ughh. My hack to see raw ir seems to be unstable. |
| 23:32.48 | cr2 | Kevin2: do you need a hack ? i thought it's just the serial console option. |
| 23:44.12 | Kevin2 | cr2: I have a usb irda dongle, and it isn't easy to get to the raw data. |
| 23:45.33 | cr2 | ok. |
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