| 00:14.18 | cr2 | from the comments in imageon/w100.c |
| 00:14.32 | cr2 | 0x9fff8000 for ATI extmem |
| 00:14.58 | cr2 | awk 'END{printf("0x%8.8x,0x%8.8x\n",0x10000000+0x8000*256,(0x9fff-0x8000)*256)} </dev/null |
| 00:15.12 | cr2 | 0x10800000,0x001fff00 |
| 00:26.28 | cr2 | hmm. is it just 2MB of SDRAM connected to w2282 ?? |
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| 01:33.23 | anYc | hmm, just 2 min to answer |
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| 10:04.18 | _law_ | hi is someone here who has a working version of haret for the tornado ? |
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| 13:42.39 | Kevin2 | _law_: Have you tried the mainline haret? |
| 14:24.48 | _law_ | Kevin2: yes but no success :-( did you also tried it? |
| 14:34.39 | Kevin2 | _law_ - I don't own a tornado. Can you create a file "earlyharetlog.txt" in the same directory as haret and rerun haret? It should create a file "haretlog.txt". |
| 14:35.31 | _law_ | Kevin2: ok i?ll try it, btw. the display is also to small so i dont see every think on haret |
| 14:36.05 | Kevin2 | What is the resolution of the screen? Does haret run but you can't use it, or does it fail to run entirely? |
| 14:37.32 | psokolovsky__ | Hi! |
| 14:37.47 | Kevin2 | psokolovsky__: Hi! |
| 14:37.57 | psokolovsky__ | Kevin2, So, are you ok with Anton's soution for ad7877? |
| 14:38.24 | Kevin2 | I'm okay with it in theory. I need to look through the code and test it. |
| 14:39.12 | psokolovsky__ | Kevin2, Ok, nice! Anton said he's available to help with any issues. Do you have an idea when you'll be able to test it? |
| 14:39.18 | _law_ | Kevin2: 240x320 it runs but the display is to small |
| 14:39.39 | Kevin2 | psokolovsky__: I hope to this weekend. |
| 14:39.47 | psokolovsky__ | nice, thanks |
| 14:39.58 | Kevin2 | _law_: I'm confused - most of the pdas we work with have a 240x320 screen. Why is it too small? |
| 14:46.19 | _law_ | Kevin2: hope you can see a little bit |
| 14:46.26 | _law_ | http://helmsdeep.homelinux.net/~pat/images/DSCN4316.JPG |
| 14:48.15 | Kevin2 | _law_: Weird. Can you exit from haret (I can't see if there is an "x" in the top right corner)? |
| 14:48.24 | Kevin2 | Otherwise, you have all the key functions. |
| 14:52.52 | _law_ | Kevin2: its wm5 smartphone (no touchscreen) i think there is now X |
| 14:54.42 | _law_ | but if i push the run button the tornado does nothing |
| 14:55.00 | _law_ | http://chac.le-poulpe.net/~nico/tornado/dl/ <- this version of haret works a little bit better |
| 14:55.09 | Kevin2 | Does it lock up or just not do anything? |
| 14:55.30 | Kevin2 | Can you create the "earlyharetlog.txt" file and forward the resulting "haretlog.txt" back? |
| 14:57.45 | _law_ | k i?ll post such a log |
| 15:35.52 | cr2 | _law_: looks like 176x220 to me |
| 15:36.41 | cr2 | hmm. |
| 15:36.43 | cr2 | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Tornado |
| 15:36.59 | cr2 | 240x320 TFT |
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| 16:46.21 | _law_ | Kevin2: http://helmsdeep.homelinux.net/~pat/haretlog.txt |
| 16:53.08 | cr2 | _law_: the ramaddr is wrong. |
| 16:54.02 | cr2 | i guess ;) because it's not a pxa cpu. |
| 16:56.44 | _law_ | cr2 so the tornado doesnt work with haret? |
| 16:57.52 | cr2 | Kevin2: haret can do better guessing at the DRAM start. if an allocated physaddr is like 0x127c3000, then RAMADDR can't be 0xa0000000 |
| 16:58.17 | cr2 | _law_: you need to set the RAMADDR to the correct value in default.txt |
| 17:00.45 | cr2 | set RAMADDR 0x10000000 |
| 17:02.14 | _law_ | cr2: ok thanks i?ll try it |
| 17:06.59 | Kevin2 | _law_: What type of processor is it? |
| 17:07.27 | cr2 | omap850 |
| 17:08.28 | Kevin2 | cr2: Do the OMAP all use arm 920t? |
| 17:08.51 | cr2 | i'm not sure. there are so many of them. |
| 17:09.56 | cr2 | i'd like that he dumps nk.exe, so we will see the wince static "page table". |
| 17:10.21 | cr2 | Kevin2: have you seen my thoughts on ATI ? |
| 17:10.43 | _law_ | cr2: omap850 with amr926 |
| 17:10.45 | Kevin2 | Yes, but I didn't quite understand it. Did you add a new command to gnu-haret? |
| 17:10.56 | cr2 | btw, can you add htc athena to haret ? |
| 17:11.16 | _law_ | cr2: where can i get nk.exe ? |
| 17:11.22 | cr2 | yes, i've added a new command, i'll commit the code to CVS. |
| 17:12.14 | cr2 | _law_: you can use testwm5.exe or dump the RAM (much more painful, i guess) |
| 17:12.33 | cr2 | Kevin2: athena is ATHE100 |
| 17:13.18 | cr2 | since there is HERM100, HERM200 and HERM300, you can probably just check only for "ATHE" |
| 17:13.27 | Kevin2 | _law_: You can grab http://handhelds.org/~koconnor/haret/haret-20070324.exe it should auto-detect your phone now. |
| 17:14.30 | Kevin2 | cr2: do a "cvs up" on mainline haret and check out src/mach/machlist.txt |
| 17:14.43 | Kevin2 | I'm auto generating most of the classes now. |
| 17:14.43 | cr2 | ok. |
| 17:15.13 | _law_ | cr2: where can i get this tool binarys ? |
| 17:15.26 | _law_ | Kevin2: ok thanks i?ll try it |
| 17:15.46 | cr2 | do you have a bugzilla ? :) s3c24xx default RAMADDR is 0x30000000 , sa11x0 - 0xc0000000, omap - 0x10000000 |
| 17:15.52 | cr2 | _law_: looking for it. |
| 17:16.44 | cr2 | _law_: here at the top: http://hands.com/~lkcl |
| 17:17.45 | cr2 | Kevin2: ssh: connect to host cvs.handhelds.org port 22: No route to host |
| 17:18.08 | Kevin2 | cr2: Hrmm. Works for me. Can you see hh.org web site? |
| 17:18.29 | cr2 | yes. |
| 17:19.40 | Kevin2 | $ host cvs.handhelds.org |
| 17:19.40 | Kevin2 | cvs.handhelds.org is an alias for handhelds.org. |
| 17:19.40 | Kevin2 | handhelds.org has address 128.31.0.25 |
| 17:19.40 | Kevin2 | handhelds.org mail is handled by 0 handhelds.org. |
| 17:21.11 | cr2 | cvs.handhelds.org canonical name = handhelds.org |
| 17:21.47 | cr2 | i've committed my gnu-haret changes to sf.net |
| 17:21.59 | cr2 | ATIDBG |
| 17:22.38 | cr2 | ok, now i can see cvs.hh.org |
| 17:23.44 | cr2 | ok. i see how you do it. |
| 17:27.26 | _law_ | cr2: dump testwm5 runs... |
| 17:27.41 | cr2 | great. |
| 17:28.57 | cr2 | i'll be back in an hour. |
| 17:29.22 | cr2 | Kevin2: my summary - ATI is not the source of our boot problems. |
| 17:30.06 | cr2 | _law_: put the dumped nk.exe somewhere. |
| 17:30.33 | _law_ | cr2: k |
| 17:47.28 | _law_ | cr2: http://helmsdeep.homelinux.net/~pat/nk.exe |
| 17:55.56 | _law_ | Kevin2: hmm new haret looks better now the 4 color bars appear and after that my tornado shutsdown :-) |
| 18:02.48 | Kevin2 | _law_: Can you boot into Linux using some other haret? Also, can you forward the haretlog.txt file from the last boot? |
| 18:12.43 | Kevin2 | cr2: Run "cvs up" and look at src/aticmds.cpp |
| 18:13.43 | Kevin2 | Only src/aticmds.cpp (and a Makefile update to compile aticmds.o) are needed to add this new command. |
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| 18:23.45 | _law_ | Kevin2: no i have only bootet linux successfully with eol |
| 18:27.04 | _law_ | Kevin2: http://helmsdeep.homelinux.net/~pat/haretlog_2007_03_24.txt |
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| 18:32.49 | Kevin2 | _law_:What is "eol"? |
| 18:36.10 | Kevin2 | Cool! Tornado version of haret has ability to write messages directly to fb! |
| 18:39.16 | _law_ | Kevin2: http://vivien.chappelier.free.fr/typhoon/index.html <- eol |
| 18:48.17 | Kevin2 | I'll be back later. |
| 18:48.39 | _law_ | me too |
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| 20:11.02 | cr2 | i'm back. |
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| 20:22.26 | SmallR2002 | hmmm, i was expecting two or three here, this is an impressive number of developers :) |
| 20:24.51 | SmallR2002 | i have a hermes 300, i was wondering if there were any ways (taking hardware dumps etc) i could help |
| 20:27.41 | cr2 | SmallR2002: we are 2-3 at a given time :) hermes still does not boot. |
| 20:28.07 | SmallR2002 | i gathered that from the xdad wiki |
| 20:28.27 | SmallR2002 | i thought there might be little programs for wm5 which could give you some useful data |
| 20:28.51 | SmallR2002 | (a technique i've been involved in for firmware reverse engineering before) |
| 20:28.52 | cr2 | the main problem (for us) is the s3c24xx cpu |
| 20:29.50 | cr2 | many little programs are included in haret |
| 20:31.06 | SmallR2002 | 'haret'? |
| 20:31.19 | cr2 | HaRET :) |
| 20:31.30 | cr2 | hardware reverse engineering tool. |
| 20:31.53 | SmallR2002 | ah, i haven't really touched that stuff myself, just thought my hardware might be of assistance |
| 20:31.55 | cr2 | the mainline is at hh.org |
| 20:31.59 | pH5 | ~haret |
| 20:32.00 | apt | i heard haret is HAndheld Reverse Engineering Toolkit, available at anoncvs@cvs.handhelds.org:/cvs/haret (CVS sources) or projectpage: http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HaRET |
| 20:32.01 | pH5 | hi cr2 |
| 20:32.09 | cr2 | hi pH5 |
| 20:32.39 | cr2 | pH5: i've looked at the kernel source and understood what i wanted yesterday. |
| 20:33.33 | cr2 | does the hx4700 have 2MB SDRAM for the framebuffer ? it seems to me that hermes has, and i don't understand what for. |
| 20:33.34 | SmallR2002 | a related issue i've been having is trying to choose a decent nix alternative to activesync |
| 20:33.45 | cr2 | synce.sf.net |
| 20:34.04 | SmallR2002 | that disagrees with my kernel |
| 20:34.28 | cr2 | there is no other afaik. install ftpd on wince. |
| 20:34.36 | SmallR2002 | i'm just wanting to sync contacts and calender really |
| 20:34.48 | SmallR2002 | i've had a butchers at funambol |
| 20:36.29 | pH5 | cr2: oh, good. afaiu the hx4700 has 2mb sdram, too. the imageon's internal sram is only 384k. |
| 20:36.55 | pH5 | so here it's needed for vga. |
| 20:37.12 | cr2 | pH5: it's 192K on hermes. 240*320*2= ... |
| 20:37.30 | cr2 | 153600 |
| 20:37.52 | cr2 | why did they put 2MB SDRAM ? |
| 20:38.09 | cr2 | do make doublebuffering etal. faster ? |
| 20:39.43 | cr2 | SmallR2002: the best way you can help is to read the S3C24xx manual and dump the CPU registers with haret. |
| 20:39.52 | pH5 | perhaps. what is the chip in the hermes 22something? |
| 20:40.14 | Kevin2 | cr2: Maybe for some kind of video playing optimizations? Perhaps for the camera? |
| 20:40.54 | cr2 | 2282, athena has 2284. |
| 20:41.06 | cr2 | Kevin2: yes, probably for the camera. |
| 20:41.22 | pH5 | heh. no info at all about this one on the ati site? |
| 20:41.38 | cr2 | w32x0 also had zero info. |
| 20:41.58 | pH5 | http://ati.amd.com/products/imageon3200/features.html |
| 20:42.11 | pH5 | there's at least a little non-technical info. |
| 20:42.14 | cr2 | there are also 2240 and 2262 widely used. |
| 20:42.39 | cr2 | 228x has sound |
| 20:42.59 | cr2 | SD, USB and I2C was already in w32x0 |
| 20:43.14 | cr2 | but hermes uses ak4641, thanks God. |
| 20:43.16 | pH5 | so it probably needs the 2mb ram for the capture interface. it's for up to 3mpix cameras. |
| 20:43.38 | cr2 | yes, athena has 3mpix cam. |
| 20:44.02 | cr2 | the sound on athena will be difficult. |
| 20:44.41 | cr2 | ooh. omap is a very different beast. looking at the wince memory table. |
| 20:45.44 | SmallR2002 | cr2, that sounds a little intensive but i'll see if i can fit it in some time, i'm a bit busy with work and trying not to die from lack of sleep at the moment |
| 20:46.49 | cr2 | :) |
| 20:48.34 | SmallR2002 | the machine seems to easily cope with all i offer it on wm5, so with nix on there it should be rather fast |
| 20:49.51 | cr2 | it actually may be faster if we will move framebuffer from SDRAM to SRAM. w100fb will do it automatically afaik. |
| 20:50.11 | cr2 | heh. we need to extend the imageon driver... |
| 20:51.03 | cr2 | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=TornadoMemoryMap |
| 20:52.03 | cr2 | i wonder if the top 4MB is the famous GSM RAM ;-) |
| 20:53.12 | cr2 | yyes. |
| 20:53.22 | cr2 | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Tornado |
| 20:53.29 | cr2 | finding the cellid: |
| 20:53.36 | cr2 | pmemdump -x -2 -w 60 0x8A4B4d22 0x3c0 |
| 20:54.19 | cr2 | 0x8a* is 0xaa* |
| 20:54.33 | cr2 | 0xaa100000 0x13c00000 0x04 4MB RAM |
| 20:55.54 | cr2 | pH5: tell _that_ to openmoko guys :) |
| 20:58.23 | pH5 | :D |
| 20:59.55 | cr2 | "smartphone" indeed. |
| 21:08.24 | cr2 | Kevin2: omap850 is CPU: ARM926EJ-Sid(wb) [41069263] revision 3 (ARMv5TEJ) |
| 21:11.44 | Kevin2 | Hrmm. So it should probably be using the arm920t cpu cache flushing routines in haret. |
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| 21:16.11 | cr2 | pH5: where is the neo kernel source ? in oe ? |
| 21:16.44 | pH5 | cr2: it's in openmoko svn in the form of patches against 2.6.20.x |
| 21:17.06 | cr2 | ok. |
| 21:34.25 | lamikr | Hi all |
| 21:40.04 | pH5 | hi lamikr |
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| 21:40.18 | lamikr | ph5 Hi |
| 21:43.55 | lamikr | Kevin not all omaps are 920, at least h6300 is arm 925t... But to be honest I have not found any data describing the real features of 925. In oe/familiar we are asking gcc to use arm9tdmi instuction set which seems to work... |
| 21:46.31 | lamikr | cr2 I still own you over 50 euro. Should I send it with to you by mail? |
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| 21:59.35 | Kevin2 | lamikr: Okay - I think we need to distinguish between the different s3c and omap processors in haret. |
| 22:01.27 | cr2 | hi lamikr. i have already forgot about it :) |
| 22:01.48 | Kevin2 | Cool, I can write strings to the fb from haret now. This should help debug boot failures. |
| 22:02.14 | cr2 | Kevin2: i can't run IR in 64bit mode on my notebook :( |
| 22:02.15 | lamikr | cr2 Well I am not. Did there happen any interesting after I left in the fosdem? |
| 22:02.51 | cr2 | i talked a lot with the openezx guys. |
| 22:03.02 | Kevin2 | cr2: Maybe use one pda to read another pda's ir? (I haven't tried it yet.) |
| 22:03.52 | lamikr | Kevin2: Have you worked for adding some support for omap kernels? I have tested gnu/haret last time about 1/2 year ago and I was able to use commands which were relying from the wince api like get battery info... But all memory functions crashed. |
| 22:04.43 | cr2 | Kevin2: the omap730/850 patch has an "early" framebuffer debug. i think it's better in the long run. |
| 22:05.05 | cr2 | lamikr: the 'ps' and 'lsmod' should work. don't know about "dump mmu" |
| 22:06.27 | lamikr | cr2 I could try them, is the latest sources buildable with the cegcc? |
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| 22:07.11 | cr2 | Kevin2: can you put the LCDonoff code into haret ? |
| 22:07.23 | Kevin2 | lamikr: I don't have an OMAP pda. As far as I know it works.. |
| 22:07.24 | cr2 | lamikr: yes, it's the only compiler we use. |
| 22:08.07 | cr2 | Kevin2: the backlight and wifi power is only >4.2 |
| 22:08.29 | lamikr | good, I have also build the "wililo" loader we use with cegcc. |
| 22:09.00 | Kevin2 | lamikr: What is wililo? |
| 22:09.45 | Kevin2 | cr2: Can you send a patch? You're more familiar with this stuff. |
| 22:10.56 | lamikr | kevin2 It is just an basic linux loader that can be started from wince. It does not have any memory dump options, but it allows reading multiple boot config options from the cfg file and will then show a listbox in wince from where you can select how you want to boot. Like boot from mmc/sd card or over nfs... |
| 22:11.21 | cr2 | Kevin2: i'll look. |
| 22:12.13 | Kevin2 | lamikr: Okay. |
| 22:12.15 | cr2 | Kevin2: there is also one more TODO, before i forger. Something like-> PlaySound("debug.wav",NULL,SND_FILENAME) |
| 22:12.56 | cr2 | but with SND_RESOURCE, so we will link the small wav file into haret. |
| 22:16.16 | lamikr | Kevin2: It is basically a wince frontend from the 2 phase bootloader for omap where the 2:nd part is os independent bootstrap. Sources for both are in svn://fuzzyneural.net/h6300 |
| 22:19.46 | Kevin2 | lamikr: There is code in mainline haret to link a kernel (and initrd) into a stripped down haret. Run the exe and you boot linux. Not sure if wililo is similar. |
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