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| 09:40.09 | goxboxlive | cr2: Around? |
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| 09:44.15 | bd2 | goxboxlive, hi! currently ds2760-battery does not implement eeprom access. But indeed ds2760's eeprom have many interesting switches, like disable/enable charging, reset overcurrent protection and so on. |
| 09:44.58 | bd2 | exporting these switches via sysfs is good thing, but nobody yet wrote that |
| 09:45.06 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 09:45.24 | goxboxlive | so realy my battery is broken, there arent any way to fix it ? |
| 09:46.04 | bd2 | well.. if it's broken, then no, no way to fix. if it's software (eeprom) locked, then you might play with it |
| 09:46.42 | goxboxlive | well it's that wince reports 0% no mather of what the status of the battery are |
| 09:47.08 | goxboxlive | But when running in linux with it it last as normal |
| 09:47.35 | goxboxlive | but wince shuts the deviuce down if the % is below 4-5 or something |
| 09:47.54 | bd2 | goxboxlive, wince might not touch eeprom either.. but you might try that: put battery in freezer for about 5 minutes, then try to charge it. |
| 09:48.28 | goxboxlive | But i think i will diasbale charging now with my new battery. I am using ssh to much so it charges allmost everytime i use it. Thats not good for the battery AFAIK |
| 09:48.51 | goxboxlive | bd2: Ok, thx, i'll try that |
| 09:51.18 | bd2 | yes, for lion it's better to do discharge cycle from time to time. there is some irreversible chemical reactions when battery at ~0% or ~100%, that's why manufacturers recommend keep it near ~70% in cold for storage purposes (after initial charge cycle). |
| 09:51.48 | goxboxlive | ok |
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| 10:35.25 | goxboxlive | good |
| 11:08.17 | goxboxlive | tsdogs: Around? |
| 11:08.25 | tsdogs | yes |
| 11:08.47 | goxboxlive | tsdogs, i noticed the sam my self with flashing screen and Qtopia/Opie2 |
| 11:09.06 | goxboxlive | with hh3 (18th may) it doesnt flash. |
| 11:09.38 | tsdogs | I was wondering if it is something that has to do with the apm -s thing we changed. but same version with .20 works perfectly |
| 11:10.19 | goxboxlive | tsdogs, yes me too so i disabled apm -s and rebuilded but nothing changed. |
| 11:10.42 | goxboxlive | But with 2.6.21-hh3 _(buildt 18th may) it works. |
| 11:10.45 | tsdogs | I meant the <= 1 or <= 0 thing |
| 11:10.50 | tsdogs | ho |
| 11:10.52 | tsdogs | ok |
| 11:10.53 | goxboxlive | We should find out what changed |
| 11:11.05 | tsdogs | si it has to do with something in the kernel |
| 11:11.13 | tsdogs | they just tagged new hh5 you tried it, I saw they fixed things with ohci too |
| 11:11.39 | goxboxlive | I guess it haves, because i tried out same opie2 image with hh4 and it flashed. Havent tried out hh5 though, but i guess it's the same |
| 11:11.41 | tsdogs | I think it has something to do with the HTCUNIVERSAL_LCD and the old ts driver |
| 11:11.52 | goxboxlive | yes, me oo |
| 11:11.58 | goxboxlive | s/oo/too/ |
| 11:12.26 | tsdogs | I wanted to try removing the LCD and keep the old driver to see if it fixed |
| 11:12.36 | tsdogs | and also the other way around. |
| 11:12.37 | goxboxlive | lets mention it for cr2 and if he has time maybe we can update the lcd/ts too |
| 11:12.50 | tsdogs | ok |
| 11:13.18 | goxboxlive | tsdogs, yes i saw that in the static defconfig. When using that the screen flickers when it resumes |
| 11:14.22 | tsdogs | if you have time you could simply build new kernel without the LCD stuff |
| 11:14.51 | tsdogs | or remove the old one. Maybe they simply should be mutual in the kernel. |
| 11:15.59 | tsdogs | tonight we will mention it to cr2. If tests are needed then we will do some. |
| 11:16.17 | tsdogs | didn't babelo have the same? |
| 11:17.11 | goxboxlive | tsdogs, yes he has the same when it comes to the resme part, but not flashing screen in Opie2. |
| 11:17.22 | goxboxlive | tsdogs, i have realy problme with sound support in Opie2 |
| 11:17.31 | goxboxlive | I have no builded it with oss and alsa |
| 11:17.36 | goxboxlive | but still no sound |
| 11:18.00 | goxboxlive | i have also tried to use qss, but nope, it just wouldnt play sound, neither system sounds |
| 11:18.18 | goxboxlive | I am sure i have all the codecs |
| 11:18.19 | tsdogs | have not done any sound tests myself. |
| 11:18.25 | goxboxlive | But what can it be |
| 11:18.29 | tsdogs | you can play from console? |
| 11:18.37 | goxboxlive | trust me, i have dome them all :-) |
| 11:18.39 | goxboxlive | yes |
| 11:18.48 | goxboxlive | i also installed mplayer and it playes sound |
| 11:18.52 | goxboxlive | the funny thing is |
| 11:19.16 | tsdogs | then maybe we need to put something into htcphonehardware... |
| 11:19.23 | goxboxlive | I have managed to record voice note with Opie2 |
| 11:19.31 | tsdogs | babelo can play sounds on BA? |
| 11:19.34 | goxboxlive | and it plays just fine form concole |
| 11:19.44 | goxboxlive | s/console/console/ |
| 11:19.56 | tsdogs | ok. that's pretty strange. |
| 11:20.42 | tsdogs | qss is running ? |
| 11:20.43 | goxboxlive | yes babelO is able to play with oss, not alsa, but i have tried both |
| 11:20.50 | tsdogs | ok |
| 11:20.57 | goxboxlive | qss isent installed when building helix |
| 11:21.08 | goxboxlive | i guess helix is a supstitude |
| 11:21.10 | tsdogs | then mediaserver is used |
| 11:21.14 | goxboxlive | yes |
| 11:21.16 | goxboxlive | it is |
| 11:21.18 | tsdogs | ok |
| 11:21.25 | goxboxlive | but as yo know, i have one issue with the mediaserver |
| 11:21.40 | goxboxlive | It failes with the atomic operators |
| 11:21.47 | goxboxlive | that might be the reason it wouldnt play |
| 11:21.50 | tsdogs | :) yes I know. |
| 11:22.13 | goxboxlive | But it isent helix who failes, it's mediaserver |
| 11:22.23 | tsdogs | can babelo send you his image? |
| 11:22.46 | goxboxlive | wonder how i can create the atomic operators. I have googled for it, but i cant find any good howto's |
| 11:22.54 | tsdogs | this way we can see if it's qtopia, helix or universal. |
| 11:23.00 | goxboxlive | yes od course, i should tried that |
| 11:23.16 | goxboxlive | i think it is mediaserver |
| 11:23.28 | goxboxlive | since helix is building |
| 11:23.46 | goxboxlive | I have also tried out with qtopia-4.2.2 but the same issue |
| 11:24.01 | tsdogs | BabelO had an issue at the beginning with it. it used 99% of CPU |
| 11:24.14 | goxboxlive | DId you know that the helpbrowser in Qtopia could be modified to be a web browser |
| 11:24.20 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 11:25.14 | tsdogs | I should try building helix myself. |
| 11:25.15 | tsdogs | no I didn't cool. so no need for konqe |
| 11:25.15 | goxboxlive | yes, just be sure to use the right version |
| 11:25.15 | goxboxlive | no |
| 11:25.15 | tsdogs | :) |
| 11:25.43 | goxboxlive | but it need to be rewritten |
| 11:25.43 | tsdogs | :( |
| 11:25.44 | goxboxlive | alittle, some addons |
| 11:25.47 | goxboxlive | wom widget stuff AFAIR |
| 11:25.47 | tsdogs | probably to handle http requests |
| 11:25.53 | goxboxlive | yes |
| 11:26.10 | tsdogs | ok. |
| 11:26.22 | tsdogs | gg eat. bbl |
| 11:26.27 | goxboxlive | so when we will have roadmap, webbroswer and gnuphone then it will be usefull |
| 11:26.40 | goxboxlive | The only lack is console and w filemanager then |
| 11:26.41 | tsdogs | btw: I have sent the patch to e. |
| 11:27.28 | goxboxlive | good |
| 11:27.29 | tsdogs | well console probably can be migrated from opie |
| 11:27.29 | goxboxlive | the mailing list is dead and erik is the only one who aplies patches for opie it seems like |
| 11:27.29 | tsdogs | filemanager I have no idea. |
| 11:28.02 | tsdogs | Also the theme/quicklauncer should be changed to be used on Universal/BA, as qtopia is much more phone friendly |
| 11:28.26 | goxboxlive | tsdogs, what do you mean? |
| 11:28.50 | goxboxlive | i think the theme is good, quicklauncher i have no idea, never ran it wthout |
| 11:29.24 | tsdogs | It seems to be more no-touchscreen use |
| 11:30.50 | goxboxlive | ok, i havent noticed that, i think it is good. You actually dont need to use the pen only finger (and i have huge fingers, remeber i am a scandinavian :-) ) |
| 11:31.27 | tsdogs | :) |
| 11:31.59 | goxboxlive | I have also noticed that we are able to roate the screen |
| 11:32.14 | tsdogs | it segfaults for me |
| 11:32.27 | tsdogs | how? |
| 11:32.46 | goxboxlive | if you also use VNC as a plugin together with transformed and linuxFb it works in landscape mode. |
| 11:32.54 | goxboxlive | but there are an issue |
| 11:33.34 | goxboxlive | the TS doesnt understand that the screen has be rotated so i thinks it still in portrait modeso the half right of the TS doesnt work |
| 11:33.53 | tsdogs | ok. rotation wasone thing I wanted to look at on opieII |
| 11:33.55 | tsdogs | :) |
| 11:34.15 | goxboxlive | :-) then we are on our way, only tslib issue left |
| 11:34.43 | tsdogs | which ts issue? |
| 11:35.22 | goxboxlive | I have also noticed that the number "3" (or was if "f") is dead, it simply doesnt work. But i took a look in the source and i can see that it is commented. |
| 11:35.46 | goxboxlive | That toucscreen doesnt understand that we have swithed over to landscapemode |
| 11:36.02 | tsdogs | ho ok. really gg. bbl |
| 11:36.08 | goxboxlive | yes |
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| 12:26.52 | cr2 | hi |
| 12:33.13 | ellisway | hi all |
| 12:38.21 | goxboxlive | cr2: hi |
| 12:39.57 | goxboxlive | hi ellisway |
| 12:40.41 | Foxdie | hi all |
| 12:56.41 | goxboxlive | hi |
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| 13:20.24 | BabelO | hi |
| 13:22.47 | BabelO | cr2: did you see ljp answer about qpeconfig ? |
| 13:28.47 | cr2 | BabelO: yes. have you tried to build it ? |
| 13:29.02 | BabelO | no, i m on phone app |
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| 13:42.59 | ltxda | morning, good afternoon or evening...depending on what part of the world you're in. :-) |
| 13:44.05 | cr2 | ltxda: i've found an interesting thing on athena, which is also available on hermes. |
| 13:45.03 | cr2 | the first 3 megabytes of RAM are reserved for the bootloader, but it really uses <512K. |
| 13:45.57 | cr2 | between 512K and 1MB there is some useful data, like wifi eeprom and ohci buffers. |
| 13:46.52 | cr2 | but 1MB-3MB is used the the wince kernel syslog. it's like 'dmesg' RAM buffer. |
| 13:47.27 | cr2 | so you can learn a lot about your device from it. |
| 13:49.13 | cr2 | btw, my boardid is 6, according to the log and i have the philips isp1582 as the usb host. |
| 13:50.30 | cr2 | ltxda: since you have a different device i'd like to know what you see in the log. |
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| 14:25.13 | ltxda | hi all |
| 14:26.24 | cr2 | ltxda: can you read the log ? |
| 14:28.33 | ltxda | sure...lemme go now. anything in particular you want me to focus on or just read it all? |
| 14:30.45 | cr2 | can you do 'pwf myspl 0xa0000000 0x300000' in haret ? |
| 14:30.47 | ltxda | i have the log up and am able to see it. |
| 14:30.56 | ltxda | sure...let me start it up |
| 14:31.55 | ltxda | had to turn wifi on... |
| 14:32.02 | ltxda | almost there :-) |
| 14:32.41 | ltxda | port 9999 right? |
| 14:32.44 | ltxda | yea that's it... |
| 14:32.45 | ltxda | doing onw |
| 14:32.46 | ltxda | now |
| 14:33.20 | ltxda | ok nothing happened. |
| 14:33.53 | ltxda | so we're trying to write memory to a file? |
| 14:34.08 | cr2 | yes. |
| 14:34.12 | ltxda | :-) |
| 14:34.15 | cr2 | the first 3 megabytes. |
| 14:34.22 | ltxda | now i should look for a file named myspl right? |
| 14:34.45 | cr2 | the file is saved in the haret directory, or in \ |
| 14:34.50 | cr2 | depending on the version. |
| 14:34.51 | cr2 | yes. |
| 14:35.00 | ltxda | mine was in \ |
| 14:35.03 | ltxda | ok open with notepad? |
| 14:35.04 | cr2 | ok. |
| 14:35.16 | ltxda | 3MB size |
| 14:35.18 | ltxda | :-/ |
| 14:35.19 | cr2 | not really. it's a binary file. |
| 14:35.19 | ltxda | lol |
| 14:35.25 | cr2 | run 'strings' |
| 14:35.40 | cr2 | of cut the first megabyte away. |
| 14:35.44 | ltxda | not sure how to do that. |
| 14:36.08 | cr2 | pwf mydmesg 0xa0100000 0x200000 |
| 14:36.24 | ltxda | ok running this command now.. |
| 14:36.42 | ltxda | before i do this, can i move this 3MB file to my card? |
| 14:36.48 | ltxda | hate keeping stuff on main memory. |
| 14:38.04 | ltxda | ok done with second command |
| 14:38.46 | cr2 | mydmesg should be readable with notepad. at least the first part :) |
| 14:38.46 | ltxda | new file 2MB |
| 14:38.51 | ltxda | ok |
| 14:39.03 | ltxda | should i install a hex editor on my phone to help out? |
| 14:39.38 | ltxda | opening now |
| 14:39.44 | ltxda | ok what did you need? |
| 14:39.50 | ltxda | it's legible |
| 14:40.37 | ltxda | more than half of the file is legible. |
| 14:41.06 | cr2 | well, can you compress it and let me get it ? |
| 14:41.28 | cr2 | i have some parts of the linux kernel there :) |
| 14:41.30 | ltxda | if i won't be transmitting any passwords or confidential info. |
| 14:42.50 | ltxda | preparing file |
| 14:43.08 | cr2 | hmm. the uuid is there. |
| 14:43.33 | cr2 | it's some hash derived from imei & such stuff. |
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| 14:46.42 | BabelO | cr2: i don't understand, i can't have root over nfs working now :( |
| 14:48.28 | cr2 | BabelO: well, there were a lot of changes in the kernel. |
| 14:48.38 | cr2 | can you disable the RNDIS ? |
| 14:48.55 | cr2 | i consider it an evil :) |
| 14:48.56 | BabelO | already done, nothing change |
| 14:49.36 | BabelO | got a message about IP-Autoconfig : missing configuration :( |
| 14:50.37 | ltxda | cr2, i notice the file has some phone numbers in it also. :-) |
| 14:51.04 | cr2 | ltxda: it's the AT DPRAM fifo log. |
| 14:52.07 | cr2 | ltxda: i test athena without SIM. |
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| 14:52.37 | ltxda | since i got a new irc client for my phone, i'm going to test it by sending you dcc the file |
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| 14:53.15 | ltxda | hi ltxda2 |
| 14:53.24 | ltxda2 | why hi ltxda |
| 14:54.11 | ltxda | ok dcc doesn't work with ppc client. piece of crap. lol |
| 14:56.42 | ltxda | cr2, you here? |
| 14:56.47 | ltxda | check dcc |
| 14:58.00 | ltxda | no workie or workie? |
| 15:00.04 | cr2 | sometimes it works, sometimes not. |
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| 15:05.33 | ltxda | brb |
| 15:27.50 | ltxda | ok back |
| 15:27.58 | ltxda | cr2, how you want this file? |
| 15:28.13 | ltxda | since dcc not working u want it emailed or uploaded somewhere? |
| 15:34.52 | goxboxlive | tsdogs, it seems like it is htc_universal_lcd wich causes the flashing screen with Qtopia. It looks like my hh3 image is without htc_universal_lcd because the screen flicker after resume (the old problem, not the Qtopia one) bbl |
| 15:35.13 | tsdogs | ok. |
| 15:36.00 | cr2 | ltxda: put it somewhere where i can get it. then you'll just remove it. |
| 15:36.15 | cr2 | tsdogs: did you move forward with roadmap ? |
| 15:36.47 | tsdogs | cr2: a bit thx for the tip. trying to display navigation bar. |
| 15:37.04 | cr2 | tsdogs: BabelO tried to compile qlandkarte and hit some interesting feautures in qtopia :) |
| 15:37.08 | cr2 | ok. |
| 15:37.31 | tsdogs | cr2: like ? |
| 15:37.48 | tsdogs | should i read the logs? |
| 15:37.58 | cr2 | some features are missing. so it's not just "take qt4 code and recompile it" |
| 15:38.20 | tsdogs | I thought so. |
| 15:38.21 | cr2 | so it depends on qconfig-qpe.h |
| 15:38.35 | tsdogs | Messagebox is also buggy in Qtopia :( |
| 15:38.36 | cr2 | but we can compile our custom version. |
| 15:38.48 | cr2 | and enable all qt4 features. |
| 15:39.04 | tsdogs | you mean you can enable/disable features? |
| 15:39.06 | tsdogs | ok |
| 15:39.24 | tsdogs | will it use much more memory/cpu ? |
| 15:40.56 | cr2 | we will see. |
| 15:41.16 | cr2 | imho it#s certainly not a problem on a 128MB machine. |
| 15:41.17 | tsdogs | good. So we can run KDE 4 on Universal :) |
| 15:41.23 | cr2 | yeah :) |
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| 17:41.16 | cr2 | tsdogs: i've checked netgen and it works very well. |
| 17:41.36 | tsdogs | :) that's great news |
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| 17:41.59 | cr2 | so you can generate pseudo-routing data for your region. |
| 17:42.00 | tsdogs | Have you been able to create a test map? |
| 17:42.18 | cr2 | then we can think of importing it. |
| 17:42.23 | cr2 | not yet. |
| 17:42.32 | tsdogs | yes, I want first to make the program work :) |
| 17:42.41 | cr2 | i need to understand the database scheme. |
| 17:42.49 | tsdogs | there are many differences with the CVS version though. |
| 17:43.27 | cr2 | ok. |
| 17:44.02 | cr2 | BabelO: are you here ? |
| 17:44.27 | cr2 | no. |
| 17:49.27 | cr2 | tsdogs: is your machine fast enough ? |
| 17:49.39 | tsdogs | to do what? |
| 17:49.41 | cr2 | can you recompile qtopia ? |
| 17:49.56 | tsdogs | takes something like 3hours. |
| 17:50.39 | cr2 | ok, we probably need to cleanup the whole process so everybody can compile it cleanly without any wild hacks. |
| 17:50.54 | tsdogs | I can do it, but first will have to go home (don't want to interrupt it) |
| 17:51.02 | cr2 | you may create the empty device/htcphone/qconfig.h file |
| 17:51.28 | cr2 | and rerun configure. then all qt4 features would be enabled. imho. |
| 17:51.46 | cr2 | ok. |
| 17:52.24 | tsdogs | cr2: there is not qconfig.h in htcphone. |
| 17:52.38 | tsdogs | I have to create it? |
| 17:53.23 | cr2 | touch qconfig.h |
| 17:53.40 | tsdogs | ok configuring. |
| 17:53.56 | cr2 | i'm curious what will happen :) |
| 17:54.24 | goxboxlive | cr2: Why this qconfig.h? |
| 17:54.31 | tsdogs | how do we test if all the features are in afterwards? |
| 17:55.09 | cr2 | we can run 'nm' on the libs. |
| 17:55.26 | cr2 | i have looked and the ./configure script yesterday. |
| 17:55.39 | goxboxlive | I'll try my self. just curioues |
| 17:55.53 | cr2 | if it does not see the qconfig.h it uses qconfig-qpe.h |
| 17:55.59 | cr2 | from the standard directory. |
| 17:56.19 | cr2 | i'll have a look which link it is. |
| 17:56.28 | cr2 | so you can just check the link. |
| 17:56.37 | cr2 | if it was set by ./configure |
| 17:56.38 | goxboxlive | should i try with opie2 or qtopia-4.2.2 |
| 17:56.48 | cr2 | opie2 |
| 17:56.50 | tsdogs | I'm trying with opie2 |
| 17:57.16 | goxboxlive | ok, i am shadow building so i want break anything |
| 17:57.41 | tsdogs | hmm :/ |
| 17:57.43 | tsdogs | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:57.43 | tsdogs | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:57.48 | cr2 | -qconfig $qconfig |
| 17:58.02 | cr2 | $qconfig should be "device" |
| 17:58.07 | cr2 | and not "qpe" |
| 17:58.37 | tsdogs | so I should config withh -qconfig htcphone ? |
| 17:59.13 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:00.21 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:00.21 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:00.22 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:00.22 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:00.40 | tsdogs | ok |
| 18:01.07 | cr2 | this is from ./configure |
| 18:03.04 | tsdogs | [alex@monster global]$ cat /home/alex/PDA/src/opie2/qtopiacore/qt/src/corelib/global/qconfig-htcphone.h |
| 18:03.05 | tsdogs | #include "/home/alex/PDA/src/opie2/devices/htcphone/qconfig.h" |
| 18:04.22 | cr2 | ls qtopiacore/ |
| 18:05.11 | tsdogs | host qconfig-qpe.h qt README |
| 18:05.51 | tsdogs | plenty of QT_NO_ defines in there |
| 18:05.56 | cr2 | what is in the qconfig-qpe.h ? |
| 18:05.57 | cr2 | ok. |
| 18:06.15 | tsdogs | define QT_NO_DIAL ?? |
| 18:07.12 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:07.12 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:07.27 | cr2 | it's before the qconfig-$device.h link |
| 18:07.32 | cr2 | maybe it#s ok. |
| 18:08.09 | cr2 | it if will be not ok, we may just edit qconfig-qpe.h |
| 18:08.10 | tsdogs | http://www.pastebin.ca/516443 |
| 18:08.35 | cr2 | yes, it's standard qconfig-qpe.h |
| 18:08.49 | cr2 | from src/corelib/global/ |
| 18:08.54 | tsdogs | ok |
| 18:10.07 | cr2 | maybe for some underpowered device like sl5500 or omap730 disabling some qt4 features is necessary. |
| 18:10.44 | tsdogs | there are few that could also be annoyng on touch screens I think. |
| 18:11.19 | cr2 | enabling the mouse and cursor is ok. |
| 18:11.34 | cr2 | we may disable some features later. |
| 18:11.48 | tsdogs | ok |
| 18:11.53 | cr2 | but it#s just better not to use them in the code. |
| 18:12.27 | tsdogs | Ok navigation is working now. |
| 18:12.40 | cr2 | hehe. no htcphone skin dir. |
| 18:12.42 | cr2 | nice. |
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| 18:22.54 | goxboxlive | i confugured same with -device htcphone and not -qconfig htcphone and i got the same result as you tsdogs |
| 18:23.25 | tsdogs | goxboxlive: that's ok, you were not meant to do that. |
| 18:23.43 | goxboxlive | no i saw that now, it failed :-) |
| 18:23.53 | tsdogs | I didn't either. |
| 18:24.16 | cr2 | -qconfig htcphone should be added by ./configure ? |
| 18:24.46 | goxboxlive | Why is this bether to have a header file? |
| 18:24.48 | tsdogs | no |
| 18:43.29 | tsdogs | cr2: as far as you know gpsd can be run in a demo mode ? |
| 18:44.54 | tsdogs | bbl |
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| 21:10.08 | cr2 | strange. |
| 21:11.04 | Foxdie | yes, I know I am ^_^ |
| 21:12.50 | cr2 | athena uses 2 chips: isp1583 and epsonV03. |
| 21:13.05 | cr2 | both are usb2.0host+ATAcontroller. |
| 21:13.33 | cr2 | still, it seems that isp1583 is used for the usb part, and epson for the ATA part. |
| 21:13.38 | cr2 | weird :) |
| 21:15.51 | cr2 | tsdogs: did you convert your maps ? |
| 21:29.17 | BabelO | cr2: i think you should be happy ;) |
| 21:30.12 | BabelO | cr2: you know what ? :) |
| 21:31.00 | BabelO | QLandkarte compile without modification, but bad news i did not advance on phone app :( i rebuild whole qtopia and can't boot my BA over NFS |
| 21:32.38 | cr2 | BabelO: thanks. does it also work ? |
| 21:32.53 | BabelO | cr2: i don't no, real question is does qtopia works with empty qconfig.h ;) |
| 21:33.11 | BabelO | just finish compile it, but issue with usb ether |
| 21:33.22 | cr2 | why should it not work ? |
| 21:33.41 | cr2 | it#s just some additional code. |
| 21:33.52 | cr2 | more functions in the libraries. |
| 21:34.05 | BabelO | cr2: yes sure, do you think i can display qlandkarte, on my small screen ? ;) |
| 21:34.12 | cr2 | ;) |
| 21:34.35 | BabelO | i compile also plugin, but did not have usb host |
| 21:34.51 | cr2 | yes. |
| 21:34.59 | BabelO | i want to buy a new device know |
| 21:35.00 | cr2 | and libproj4 is in oe ? |
| 21:35.08 | cr2 | which one ? |
| 21:35.19 | BabelO | don't know, i compile libusb and libproj from source by hand |
| 21:35.36 | cr2 | athena is not a really cheap device :) |
| 21:35.42 | cr2 | it's very good hw design. |
| 21:35.46 | cr2 | i'm impressed. |
| 21:36.00 | cr2 | they have put a separate device for each function. |
| 21:36.22 | cr2 | and offloaded everything from the main cpu. |
| 21:36.28 | cr2 | even the sound. |
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| 21:37.27 | BabelO | there is already driver for IDE pcmcia ? |
| 21:37.46 | cr2 | no. |
| 21:38.07 | cr2 | but it's exactly the direction where it should go. |
| 21:38.16 | cr2 | the rest is irrelevant :) |
| 21:38.55 | cr2 | my bet: no sound, no 3mpix cam, no miniSD. |
| 21:39.03 | cr2 | the rest will work RSN. |
| 21:39.39 | BabelO | that was my last attempt from today to boot over NFS :( |
| 21:39.53 | cr2 | all three devices on ATI. it's like the CAM on ba. |
| 21:40.00 | cr2 | no docs, no support. |
| 21:40.25 | cr2 | why don't you use SD ? |
| 21:41.36 | BabelO | i setup a correct SD card with GPE for today use, but it is more esay to add file over NFS |
| 21:42.25 | BabelO | i think from now i have to use nbd ;) cool gadget |
| 21:43.56 | BabelO | do you have a link for athena with full specs and internal device ? |
| 21:44.38 | cr2 | my list: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=AthenaResearch |
| 21:46.30 | BabelO | cool, there is already lot of driver in our kernel :) |
| 21:46.50 | BabelO | so it is no ds1wm on athena |
| 21:47.59 | cr2 | it seems not. |
| 21:48.14 | cr2 | it's more like on apache. |
| 21:49.41 | BabelO | apache think to me that i have a question |
| 21:50.00 | BabelO | what is the purpose of resumeintoboot haret feature ? |
| 21:50.45 | cr2 | to check if the device can resume into linux kernel. |
| 21:51.02 | cr2 | but it's verx device-specific |
| 21:51.18 | cr2 | and needs special support code. |
| 21:52.05 | BabelO | ok it is not to simulate boot from flashed rom |
| 21:53.20 | cr2 | no, it's a different code path. but it's helpful for testing if the kernel can init the hardware on its own. |
| 21:54.10 | goxboxlive | cr2: ARe you meaning that here will not be any sound support in AThena, so the phone can not be used? |
| 21:56.08 | goxboxlive | it's not that important with the cam, but sound and mini-sd are really needed i think. |
| 21:56.38 | cr2 | goxboxlive: digital sound. as in play music. |
| 21:56.59 | goxboxlive | o, so it will not be an mp3 player |
| 21:57.54 | cr2 | the analog sound (headset mic, builtin mic, headset speaker) is on ak4641 (my very qualified guess :) , so it will work as on the universal. |
| 21:58.11 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 21:58.41 | cr2 | yes, the i2s data does not come from pxa270 |
| 21:58.49 | cr2 | so it must come from ATI. |
| 21:58.58 | goxboxlive | o |
| 21:59.03 | cr2 | the same for the record. |
| 21:59.14 | goxboxlive | i c |
| 21:59.34 | cr2 | but i guess the BT headset will be like on the universal. |
| 21:59.47 | goxboxlive | cr2: I have figured out why the screen flashes in Qtopia |
| 21:59.53 | cr2 | because ak4641 is probably connected to the ak4641 like on the universal. |
| 22:00.11 | cr2 | s/ak4641 is/brf6150 is/ |
| 22:00.12 | goxboxlive | with a mistake i comiled a kernel without htc_universal_lcd driver and it worked. |
| 22:00.29 | cr2 | :) |
| 22:00.33 | cr2 | how ? |
| 22:01.01 | cr2 | pxafb will lack power control completely. |
| 22:01.01 | goxboxlive | But, without the htcuniversal_lcd driver the svreen flicker after resume :-) So it is a kind of give and take :-) |
| 22:01.19 | cr2 | hm. |
| 22:01.27 | cr2 | then you don't suspend it. |
| 22:01.49 | cr2 | and the LCCR4 is not handled, so it flickers after pxafb resume. |
| 22:01.51 | BabelO | cr2: can we normalize leds naming for our device? |
| 22:01.55 | cr2 | we need to patch pxafb :) |
| 22:02.06 | cr2 | normalize ? |
| 22:02.10 | goxboxlive | no, but we should have fixed it. And i also think that we should disable charging in the power module |
| 22:02.30 | BabelO | cr2: set a standard for sysfs name |
| 22:02.33 | cr2 | i don't understand why the leds have this device "namespaces" :) |
| 22:03.37 | cr2 | BabelO: what naming do you suggest ? |
| 22:04.01 | cr2 | goxboxlive: we have fixed it in the htcuniversal_lcd , not in the pxafb. |
| 22:04.53 | BabelO | cr2: red, green, vibra is ok, but keyboard light and also phonecall light ? |
| 22:05.30 | BabelO | do you have another on universal ? |
| 22:06.17 | goxboxlive | cr2: I thought you allready did that for a whgile ago. psok asked you to do it so we didnt have local dirty hacks |
| 22:06.30 | goxboxlive | AFAIR you have allready done that. let me check |
| 22:06.52 | cr2 | goxboxlive: only partly. |
| 22:07.01 | goxboxlive | cr2: ok |
| 22:07.27 | goxboxlive | cr2: what about the ts-adc or what they call it. Should we also move over to it? |
| 22:07.37 | goxboxlive | the new toucjscreen driver? |
| 22:07.37 | cr2 | BabelO: i think not. |
| 22:08.04 | goxboxlive | BabelO, yes we have the flashlight |
| 22:08.40 | cr2 | goxboxlive: i need to check the asic3 dependence. |
| 22:08.51 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 22:09.10 | BabelO | ok, need to look o other device |
| 22:13.05 | goxboxlive | BabelO, are you going to buy the Athena? |
| 22:13.40 | BabelO | need to look at french price before ;) |
| 22:14.00 | goxboxlive | it's really expensive up here too |
| 22:17.26 | BabelO | best price without contract is 789 euros |
| 22:18.02 | goxboxlive | o, it's 850 or something here |
| 22:19.00 | BabelO | oups, no it is with contract, without it cost 1 000 euros |
| 22:19.39 | BabelO | so, no, to expensive :( |
| 22:20.29 | goxboxlive | that's the same asup here, i actully calculated wrong. €1 = 8,5 NOK or something |
| 22:21.52 | cr2 | hehe. why is it so expensive ? |
| 22:21.55 | goxboxlive | BabelO, buy a used Universal, it's as good as Athena, only miss gps. |
| 22:22.50 | BabelO | :) |
| 22:23.05 | cr2 | You can download ISP1582 linux driver from their website |
| 22:23.12 | BabelO | yes, there is many other device on japan sites |
| 22:24.01 | goxboxlive | But do the phone part work in EU? And isent it with japanese lether/symbols? |
| 22:24.03 | cr2 | Philips ISP1582 USB2.0 client interface. |
| 22:24.15 | cr2 | on hx4700 ?? |
| 22:24.34 | goxboxlive | cr2, talking to me? |
| 22:24.52 | BabelO | goxboxlive: i ll check a old link |
| 22:28.38 | BabelO | cr2: i really have a big issue with usb today :( |
| 22:28.40 | BabelO | <5>[ 2334.070000] statd: server localhost not responding, timed out |
| 22:28.41 | BabelO | <5>[ 2334.070000] lockd: cannot monitor 192.168.1.205 |
| 22:28.41 | BabelO | <5>[ 2334.070000] lockd: failed to monitor 192.168.1.205 |
| 22:30.54 | BabelO | cr2: i have mouse pointer under opie now ;) |
| 22:31.06 | BabelO | i ran opie2 and gpe at same time on same device ;) cool |
| 22:31.10 | cr2 | BabelO: opie2 ? |
| 22:31.16 | cr2 | lol. |
| 22:32.02 | BabelO | ahhhhhh |
| 22:32.06 | goxboxlive | BabelO, are you thesting the phone app now? |
| 22:32.06 | BabelO | Qlandkarte start |
| 22:32.14 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 22:32.30 | BabelO | does to fit into my screen :( |
| 22:32.37 | BabelO | grhhh |
| 22:32.45 | BabelO | goxboxlive: good idea |
| 22:32.59 | cr2 | BabelO: you can coonect a serial mouse now :) |
| 22:33.04 | cr2 | or a BT mouse. |
| 22:33.24 | BabelO | i have opie over VNC and GPE on BA screen |
| 22:33.46 | cr2 | 128MB RAM :) |
| 22:34.09 | BabelO | so QLankarte start and run, i ve to set a bigger screen for VNC and opie |
| 22:34.33 | cr2 | ok. |
| 22:34.48 | BabelO | there is map provided for QLandkarte ? |
| 22:34.51 | cr2 | if you'll see the right pane |
| 22:35.20 | cr2 | BabelO: http://mapcenter.cgpsmapper.com http://mapcenter2.cgpsmapper.com |
| 22:35.52 | cr2 | you can use garmin maps. which are not XORed. these are more tricky ;) |
| 22:36.03 | BabelO | no only a panel with F1 - F2 - F3 - F4 |
| 22:36.26 | cr2 | i'll start it on my notebook. |
| 22:36.43 | cr2 | this is the left pane. |
| 22:37.05 | cr2 | try to move its right border as much as possible to the left. |
| 22:37.32 | cr2 | File->LoadMap |
| 22:38.03 | cr2 | should open the map selection dialog. |
| 22:38.24 | cr2 | so you can load any map from http://mapcenter.cgpsmapper.com |
| 22:39.02 | cr2 | http://mapcenter.cgpsmapper.com/catalogue.php?country=73 |
| 22:39.52 | goxboxlive | yes, it has norwegian maps |
| 22:40.30 | cr2 | goxboxlive: these maps are free. |
| 22:40.47 | cr2 | you can also use the maps from garmin. but this is .. hehe .. :) |
| 22:40.47 | BabelO | yes there is PACA maps ;) |
| 22:40.57 | BabelO | i restart with 480x640 screen size |
| 22:41.23 | goxboxlive | yes i saw that, but last time i checked it weher only one map, Svalabard (far far up north, allmost the nothpole = |
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| 22:42.04 | cr2 | goxboxlive: metroguide is the answer. |
| 22:42.28 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 22:43.25 | cr2 | http://www8.garmin.com/cartography/mapSource/MGEuro.jsp#price |
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| 22:49.42 | goxboxlive | do i need to have my gps connected to just look at the map? |
| 22:52.17 | cr2 | of course not. |
| 22:52.55 | goxboxlive | why isent it showing the map then |
| 22:53.33 | cr2 | which map are you using ? |
| 22:55.28 | goxboxlive | Then one form cgpsmapper img file |
| 22:55.33 | goxboxlive | over norway |
| 22:55.40 | cr2 | which one ? |
| 22:56.42 | goxboxlive | '/NORWAY-CACHEMAP SOUTH 8_8_06-0608120427-bin.zip |
| 22:58.05 | cr2 | these are only waypoints. |
| 22:58.31 | goxboxlive | ohh |
| 22:58.37 | goxboxlive | :-) |
| 22:58.53 | goxboxlive | so there arent any maps for norway (main land ) then |
| 22:59.56 | cr2 | on the first start the right pane has zero width ;) |
| 23:00.07 | cr2 | move the division to the left. |
| 23:00.18 | cr2 | then you#ll see the the points. |
| 23:01.26 | cr2 | i'll check and let you know. |
| 23:01.38 | cr2 | later. |
| 23:02.04 | cr2 | ok. good night. |
| 23:02.07 | goxboxlive | well it's getting late. Now and 10 weeks ahead i am home with child (no work) so i guess it'l be a early morning timorrow |
| 23:02.10 | goxboxlive | good night |
| 23:42.54 | BabelO | cr2: ftp://linuxbox2.free.fr/blueangel/ScreenShot/capture14.png |
| 23:43.18 | BabelO | cr2: i set my vnc screen size to 800x600 :( really big |
| 23:43.26 | BabelO | good noght |
