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| 04:58.23 | danielmarsom | who can help me with my blueangel problem? |
| 04:59.35 | danielmarsom | i follow the instructions (although i do have to unmount the partitions to do mkfs) and when i put the card in: |
| 04:59.57 | danielmarsom | do you want to format the card to make it readable etc. |
| 05:00.19 | danielmarsom | argh im going out of my mind as linux on my BA would be ultimate hack. |
| 05:08.03 | danielmarsom | well, if anyone can help me, email me daniel@spectre-net.co.nz |
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| 08:40.47 | goxboxlive | hi |
| 08:52.13 | RyJones | ahoy |
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| 09:05.56 | goxboxlive | good morning pH5 |
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| 09:19.14 | pH5 | hi goxboxlive, good morning |
| 09:19.27 | zazza | salve |
| 09:20.54 | zazza | |
| 09:20.54 | zazza | are supported the sdhc from the gpe on jas-jar? |
| 09:28.50 | goxboxlive | zazza: what do you mean? |
| 09:32.13 | zazza | |
| 09:32.14 | zazza | it is possible to use the sdhc with linux on the jas-jar |
| 09:32.50 | goxboxlive | i dont know, i dont have such card |
| 09:35.31 | RyJones | if the jas-jar doesn't support SDHC under windows mobile, it won't be supported under linux. |
| 09:35.56 | RyJones | since the jas-jar came out before the sdhc standard, I assume it doesn't support SDHC. |
| 09:38.41 | zazza | |
| 09:38.41 | zazza | the difference is alone softuer |
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| 10:06.18 | RyJones | if that is true, why do you need to buy new hardware (SDHC readers) to read SDHC cards? |
| 10:06.52 | RyJones | SD readers can't read SDHC cards, in my experience. I have a couple 16 and 8 gig SDHC cards and nothing other than SDHC readers can read them. |
| 10:18.31 | pH5 | RyJones: afaiu, the integrated sd chipsets on most handhelds are very stupid hardware parts that rely on software to do most of the work, and those can easily be changed to support sdhc. |
| 10:19.43 | pH5 | I'm not sure if this is the case with the asic3 mmc controller, though. somebody should try :) |
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| 11:19.12 | BabelO | pH5: there is a omap850_sdhc.dll on wm6 so i hope it works, and i read a discuss at xda forum about a patch for universal and sdhc |
| 11:20.22 | pH5 | BabelO: I'm sure at least the onchip controllers (pxa,s3c,omap) support sdhc hardware-wise. |
| 11:22.21 | BabelO | pH5: how can i now if my micro sd is sdhc or not ? |
| 11:23.21 | goxboxlive | BabelO: tested BA with the Qtopia phone lib. yet? |
| 11:24.32 | pH5 | BabelO: there's a "new %s card at address ..." message that reads SD or SDHC, depending on the type |
| 11:24.38 | BabelO | goxboxlive: no, i ve a kernel problem with ba, but i think i have time to test it |
| 11:25.41 | goxboxlive | good |
| 11:25.46 | pH5 | BabelO: any news on the artemis hangup/i2c/mmc issues? |
| 11:26.37 | BabelO | pH5: just the new adress i found in htc_lib about i2c and also the mmc dll ;) |
| 11:37.50 | dcordes | pH5: what was that thing again I had to change in the defconf of htctornado in order to make it work? |
| 11:38.38 | dcordes | ~logs |
| 11:38.38 | apt | rumour has it, logs is apt/ibot/infobot/jbot/purl all log daily to http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz |
| 11:38.38 | pH5 | I proposed to increase the ram disk size, but I'm not sure if that is really needed. |
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| 13:21.38 | myzinsky | hi is ther e a posibility to run linux on a o2 xda ( HTC Wizard 200 ) ?? |
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| 15:29.10 | dcordes | pH5_: hey I just booted the htctornado image |
| 15:29.24 | dcordes | respective my mate booted it |
| 15:29.30 | dcordes | but he's getting kernel oops |
| 15:29.47 | dcordes | is there a way to log the bootprocess to see what's wrong? |
| 15:32.10 | dcordes | I will tell him to take a picture |
| 15:32.29 | dcordes | thanks for your help pH5_ between |
| 15:32.43 | dcordes | modified defconf made it |
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| 15:45.57 | pH5 | looks like I have to get i2c working on herald first, the omap850_sdhc.dll driver has references to i2c code. |
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| 15:56.03 | cr2_ | pH5: hi. do you understand the wince internal omap850 gpio layout ? |
| 15:57.51 | pH5 | cr2_: I don't understand. there are 192 gpios and I know the function of a few of them. it seems like the internal gpio accessing functions are all inlined in wince. |
| 15:58.45 | cr2_ | i mean the way how they are inlined. |
| 15:59.44 | cr2_ | on pxa, the gpio base register is stored in .data, and all (most) accesses are using an offset to it. |
| 16:00.02 | cr2_ | it#s the same on s3c244x |
| 16:00.09 | cr2_ | what about omap850 ? |
| 16:01.28 | pH5 | ahh, no I don't know. let me look.. |
| 16:02.47 | dcordes | pH5: are you planning to commit one wizard kernel to OE? |
| 16:03.31 | pH5 | dcordes: not sure, it depends a bit on how fast the omap people are to push their stuff into mainline. |
| 16:03.33 | dcordes | I would like to try something with gui on the prophet |
| 16:03.45 | pH5 | for now my worries are more to get herald running at all. |
| 16:03.55 | dcordes | is herald also omap? |
| 16:04.35 | pH5 | dcordes: do you have a chance to get the oops log from the prophet? partial, at least, if you choose the smallest available console font. |
| 16:05.05 | pH5 | herald is also omap850, it's basically the wizard successor |
| 16:06.28 | cr2_ | do the omap850 models use "real" mtype now ? |
| 16:07.00 | dcordes | pH5: my mate copied everything manually he could see |
| 16:07.10 | dcordes | http://www.pastebin.ca/688722 |
| 16:07.12 | dcordes | that's all I got |
| 16:08.19 | dcordes | for now |
| 16:08.33 | pH5 | cr2_: there is only the tornado kernel in OE, which uses a fake one, the olde wizard kernel, which uses a fake one and the typhoon patches on linux-omap, which use a real one. |
| 16:08.41 | dcordes | pH5: if I got you right- it is not possible to create a log of the bootprocess? |
| 16:08.55 | pH5 | BabelO and I used real mtypes for artemis and herald, but we don't have working kernels yet. |
| 16:09.56 | pH5 | dcordes: not yet, you don't have any storage device and no serial console. and ssh login via usbnet will only work when you get into userspace. |
| 16:10.48 | dcordes | I see |
| 16:11.04 | dcordes | does my pastebin have any usable information? |
| 16:11.07 | pH5 | really strange. oops in the request_irq called from udc init? |
| 16:11.13 | dcordes | it is just a pile of memory adresses isn't it? |
| 16:11.13 | cr2_ | pH5: do you know the mmc power/irq/detect gpios for herald ? |
| 16:11.32 | pH5 | cr2_: no. they are on the i2c gpio chip. |
| 16:11.45 | cr2_ | ? |
| 16:11.49 | cr2_ | i2c gpio chip ? |
| 16:12.03 | pH5 | I have a CPLD with some gpios that is controlled via i2c |
| 16:12.10 | dcordes | what is request_irq called from udc init? |
| 16:12.24 | pH5 | used for mmc gpios, the direction keypad and leds. |
| 16:12.29 | cr2_ | pH5: ok, so you have more than 192 gpios. |
| 16:12.55 | dcordes | pH5: maybe that is because the machines are kind of strangers (tornado-prophet) |
| 16:12.56 | cr2_ | signaled over i2c. weird. |
| 16:13.31 | pH5 | yes. and I've already mapped the keys/leds because I know the shadow region in ram for the cpld gpio registers, but I can't trace the mmc gpios that way and I didn't find time to do proper i2c traces yet due to the massive i2c traffic. |
| 16:14.08 | cr2_ | massive ? |
| 16:14.11 | pH5 | dcordes: I'm not sure what could cause this. udc initialization worked on herald and artemis unchanged |
| 16:14.34 | dcordes | with the torando kernel in oe? |
| 16:14.46 | pH5 | cr2_: at least the battery control chip is on there, and I don't know what else. all i2c register traces I've done so far ended with an overflow in haret. |
| 16:14.58 | cr2_ | pH5: is it the same area at 0xb0027xxx ? 1b0 and 1bc ? |
| 16:15.04 | pH5 | dcordes: ah, no. with the hh.org+muru patch kernel by BabelO |
| 16:15.11 | dcordes | ok |
| 16:15.30 | dcordes | well I did not have too much hope in the tornado kernel to boot |
| 16:15.48 | cr2_ | tornado is omap730 ? |
| 16:15.55 | dcordes | I tried it because if it worked I could have made a moko image from it so the prophet guys has some fun with it ^^ |
| 16:16.01 | dcordes | cr2_: I think it is omap850 |
| 16:16.01 | cr2_ | and typhoon is omap850 ? |
| 16:16.08 | pH5 | cr2_: they are at 0xb00270f0 here |
| 16:16.15 | cr2_ | dcordes: ok. |
| 16:16.44 | pH5 | 32bit each consisting of the i2c register address in the upper and the register value in the lower 16bit. |
| 16:17.08 | cr2_ | pH5: 1b0 and 1bc are also referenced by the sd dll. |
| 16:18.14 | pH5 | I have references to 16c, 106, 19c, 1a0 |
| 16:18.17 | dcordes | would it be possible to put the wizard kernel into OE locally to try an openmoko-devel-image build with it? |
| 16:18.43 | pH5 | dcordes: sure |
| 16:19.13 | dcordes | is that complicated or could I managed it ? :) |
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| 16:21.07 | pH5 | dcordes: I think it's complicated but you could manage ;) grow with the task, just look at the linux-handhelds-2.6 recipes and learn from that. |
| 16:21.17 | cr2_ | pH5: do all omap850 devices have the same cpuid like that listed in EOL ? |
| 16:21.20 | pH5 | oh, and you'll probably need some package that uses the hg fetcher for reference. |
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| 16:22.50 | dcordes | pH5: so all I need is one recipe? |
| 16:23.08 | dcordes | with the patches needed in it |
| 16:23.20 | pH5 | cr2_: the OMAP ID 0x03320500, 0x1b62c02f? or the cpuid in cp15? |
| 16:23.31 | cr2_ | omap id |
| 16:23.35 | pH5 | dcordes: yes. do you apply additional patches to the wizard hg tree? |
| 16:24.02 | pH5 | dumb question on my part, btw. they are both the same |
| 16:24.33 | dcordes | hm I didn't change any recipe for the tornado attempt if you mean this |
| 16:25.18 | pH5 | dcordes: no, I mean if you want to try to add the old wizard kernel. if you can boot it unchanged, you won't need to add patches to the recipe :) |
| 16:27.05 | dcordes | ah I see. but with the old kernel- I can't use all the stuff in OE that needs later kernelversions right? |
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| 16:33.25 | dcordes | pH5: which recipe would be best to start from? |
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| 16:33.50 | pH5 | "<pH5> dcordes: [...] just look at the linux-handhelds-2.6 recipes and learn from that." |
| 16:34.17 | dcordes | ok sorry |
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| 16:44.10 | dcordes_ | did I miss something? had disconnect |
| 16:44.13 | dcordes_ | damn alice |
| 16:44.48 | pH5 | dcordes: nothing |
| 16:46.11 | dcordes_ | did you get my question about what to do with the recipe? |
| 16:47.01 | dcordes_ | they look so simple- almost only containing SOURCE_URI |
| 16:49.43 | pH5 | dcordes: no, that didn't make it through. |
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| 16:50.25 | pH5 | if all is well, you only should have to change the SRC_URI. |
| 16:50.36 | pH5 | but I'm not sure how to correctly invoke the hg fetcher, from the top of my head. |
| 16:50.41 | pH5 | hi BabelO |
| 16:50.55 | BabelO | hi pH5 |
| 16:55.09 | BabelO | pH5: it is really strange i have led reference to 0xfffe1010 and lot of call to 0x80022010 with shift 4 for most audio function |
| 16:57.47 | dcordes_ | pH5: what is hg fetcher? and where can I get the latest wizard handhelds kernel? |
| 16:57.53 | dcordes_ | hi BabelO |
| 17:00.34 | Kevin2 | pH5: Have you had a chance to try filtering the i2c traffic with haret? |
| 17:05.22 | BabelO | cr2_: artemis have same OMAP ID than tornado, but typhoon is different |
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| 17:25.05 | pH5 | BabelO: 80022010 is an address in sram? this is maybe your i2c buffer, similar to the one I have at b00270f0? |
| 17:25.23 | pH5 | Kevin2: not yet |
| 17:28.33 | BabelO | pH5: i don't understand why in I2C_IOControl i2c bus appear at 0xa1232C40 ... |
| 17:31.27 | cr2_ | BabelO: it's omap730 vs. omap850 |
| 17:33.05 | cr2_ | BabelO: can you find out where is your wifi ? |
| 17:34.33 | BabelO | cr2_: no i don't look at wifi, if i use wifi with haret, my device rebootafter each wi command |
| 17:40.23 | pH5 | cr2_: I have a tnetwln.dll that contains the string "ACX100" on herald |
| 17:42.03 | Kevin2 | BabelO: Hrmm. You still get hiccups with wi? Are you using the latest version? |
| 17:43.23 | BabelO | Kevin2: only with if i use haret over wifi |
| 17:43.54 | BabelO | pH5: yes same for me,and in wince i have a sdio wlan driver |
| 17:44.51 | dcordes | where can I find the kernel sources on hh.org? |
| 17:46.23 | BabelO | dcordes: read this and checkout , just read instruction http://www.handhelds.org/sources.html |
| 17:48.46 | dcordes | ok thanks |
| 17:51.34 | BabelO | cr2_: i have also a LOG_IOControl function, what is that ? |
| 17:53.13 | cr2_ | no idea. |
| 17:53.50 | cr2_ | pH5: do you see any hardcoded addresses in tnetwln.dll ? |
| 17:56.58 | dcordes | BabelO: could you give me a hint on where to find omap850 2.6x there |
| 17:58.15 | BabelO | dcordes: after check out hh kernel, you can use patch from here http://www.muru.com/linux/omap/ |
| 17:58.43 | cr2_ | Kevin2: ProcessorType=0x0b36 does it tell anything to you ? |
| 17:59.49 | BabelO | cr2_: in my tnetwlan.dll i ve a sdio_iocontrol function with reference to 0x80000004 bus shift 4 |
| 18:00.55 | Kevin2 | cr2_: Where did the info come from? |
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| 18:04.59 | cr2_ | Kevin2: wince 'dmesg' |
| 18:06.09 | Kevin2 | No, it doesn't mean anything to me. Latest haret will report wince's text description of a processor (eg, "MSM7500") in earlyharetlog.txt. |
| 18:06.37 | dcordes | BabelO: http://www.muru.com/linux/omap/patches/patch-2.6.22-omap1.bz2 ? |
| 18:07.35 | dcordes | is there a full hh kernel in .tar.gz somehere so I can use it in openembedded recipe? |
| 18:07.52 | dcordes | somewhere |
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| 18:20.56 | BabelO | dcordes: oe use hh with cvs and muru patch is the one for 2.6.21 |
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| 18:22.33 | BabelO | pH5: i have many access to 0x80000000 |
| 18:23.05 | pH5 | is 0x80000000 ram base? |
| 18:24.00 | cr2_ | pH5: virt ? |
| 18:24.08 | dcordes | BabelO: so I take the linux-handhelds-2.6_cvs.bb and apply the muru 2.6.21 patch to it? |
| 18:24.37 | BabelO | cr2_, pH5 how it is coded in wince dll ? access are virt or phys ? |
| 18:25.14 | pH5 | BabelO: virt, unless in some cases, where phys adresses are used as function parameters. |
| 18:25.26 | pH5 | (I've seen that for the pin mux settings) |
| 18:25.33 | cr2_ | BabelO: always virt |
| 18:26.12 | BabelO | ok, is it related to function setkmode ? |
| 18:26.17 | dcordes | BabelO: don't I get a linux-handheld image with 2.6.22 when I fetch from cvs? |
| 18:26.18 | cr2_ | pH5: then VirtualAllocCopy & co. are needed. |
| 18:26.37 | cr2_ | BabelO: probably, because these are 'priviledged' functions. |
| 18:26.52 | cr2_ | on wince <6 it did not matter. |
| 18:26.59 | BabelO | cr2_: ok so i see some call to setkmode in |
| 18:27.11 | BabelO | ok mine is 6 |
| 18:27.16 | cr2_ | because it was running in the kernel mode 3<=wince<=5 |
| 18:27.53 | cr2_ | heh. it's wince security in action. |
| 18:28.19 | pH5 | cr2_: good for us anyway :) |
| 18:28.37 | cr2_ | :) |
| 18:33.43 | BabelO | cr2_: there is a htcfsdspy.dll ... lol |
| 18:36.07 | pH5 | espionage equipment? |
| 18:36.41 | BabelO | pH5: lol most of exported function i see are rewrite of basic windows file access |
| 18:40.44 | cr2_ | fsd is filesystem driver |
| 18:41.09 | cr2_ | they are spying on your filesystem access :) |
| 18:55.37 | BabelO | cr2_, pH5: i have a flashdrv.dll access to 0xffffc800 and some string like NAND in it |
| 18:56.21 | cr2_ | BabelO: do we have a wiki/html omap cpu address map ? |
| 18:56.36 | cr2_ | my version for garmin is not good enough. |
| 18:57.01 | BabelO | no, i ve no access |
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