| 00:02.58 | PITABoy | weird... ARM processors are supposedly tested with linux before they are released I'm guessing speed tests and load handling etc |
| 00:03.40 | Zoolooc | PITABoy, that will be your nick always (just asking becasue of the liveCD :-) )? cause I'd be interested to talk to you again, especially if you succeed to dig useful stuff about the qualcomm chipset. I might get involved, too at some point |
| 00:04.03 | PITABoy | if this is so and they say that they support linux the why the heck wont they release drivers |
| 00:04.29 | PITABoy | yes this is always my irc nick my xda-developers nick is l33tlinuxh4x0r |
| 00:04.57 | PITABoy | most places though I am known as PITABoy i am also l33tlinuxh4x0r on the openmoko sites |
| 00:05.15 | Zoolooc | alright |
| 00:05.57 | PITABoy | sup NAiL |
| 00:21.55 | *** join/#htc-linux Hymie (n=Hymie@l8r.net) |
| 00:24.10 | Hymie | he4y guys, been a while! any suitable UTMS phone that works ok with linux? |
| 00:24.34 | Hymie | the universal has a lot of checkmarks here: http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/Universal |
| 00:25.01 | cr2 | hi Hymie |
| 00:25.13 | Hymie | hey, cr2! |
| 00:25.20 | cr2 | yes, universal is the best. but still there are some minor problems. |
| 00:25.27 | Hymie | glad to see you're still keeping the flame alive! |
| 00:25.46 | cr2 | :) |
| 00:25.54 | Hymie | cr2: I bought a treo750, and while it is better than standard windows mobile, I yearn for Linux |
| 00:25.57 | cr2 | just wanted to go to bed :) |
| 00:26.01 | Hymie | cr2: hehe |
| 00:26.10 | cr2 | doesn't it run linux ? |
| 00:26.15 | Hymie | cr2: what problems do you think I'll have if I try universal for day to day use? |
| 00:26.23 | Hymie | treo750 is WM5/6 |
| 00:26.31 | Hymie | I hear it is a lot like the hermes |
| 00:26.38 | cr2 | but it's possible to boot linux too. |
| 00:26.43 | Hymie | ? |
| 00:26.50 | cr2 | on treo750 ? |
| 00:26.56 | Hymie | I don't think so |
| 00:26.59 | Hymie | I'd be happy if so! |
| 00:27.03 | Hymie | but, I don't see it on the HTC page |
| 00:27.10 | Hymie | and I saw no mention of this on xda-devel |
| 00:27.13 | cr2 | universal needs better power saving. |
| 00:27.24 | Hymie | ah! |
| 00:27.29 | Hymie | and with utms that could be a problem |
| 00:28.40 | cr2 | it just needs polishing here and there. |
| 00:29.19 | cr2 | can you run haret on treo ? |
| 00:29.26 | Hymie | I've never tried |
| 00:29.30 | cr2 | try :) |
| 00:29.39 | cr2 | i'll wait because of that. |
| 00:29.45 | Hymie | hmm, where is the best haret, I know you guys have a hacked version |
| 00:30.22 | cr2 | http://handhelds.org/~koconnor/haret |
| 00:30.26 | cr2 | take the latest |
| 00:30.30 | Hymie | sec |
| 00:30.44 | cr2 | haret-20071029d.exe |
| 00:30.49 | cr2 | i think this one. |
| 00:31.43 | cr2 | put it on SD |
| 00:31.48 | cr2 | create the file named |
| 00:31.53 | cr2 | earlyharetlog.txt |
| 00:32.02 | cr2 | and then start haret. |
| 00:32.11 | cr2 | it will create the haretlog.txt file |
| 00:32.15 | cr2 | pastebin it. |
| 00:33.14 | Hymie | hmm, it runs at least |
| 00:33.17 | Hymie | (this is wm6 btw) |
| 00:33.30 | Hymie | sso I just touch that file on the sd card? |
| 00:33.33 | Hymie | then run haret? |
| 00:33.47 | cr2 | yes. |
| 00:33.49 | cr2 | i see |
| 00:33.51 | cr2 | Treo700wx, PXA27x ,Palm Treo 700w, T700WX, set ramsize 64*1024*1024 |
| 00:33.58 | cr2 | is it the same ? |
| 00:34.00 | Hymie | no |
| 00:34.01 | Hymie | 750 |
| 00:34.04 | Hymie | different |
| 00:34.04 | Hymie | sec |
| 00:34.07 | cr2 | ok. good |
| 00:34.21 | Hymie | it is looking for a script to run |
| 00:34.28 | cr2 | close it. |
| 00:34.34 | cr2 | is the haretlog.txt there ? |
| 00:35.14 | Hymie | yes, but 0B |
| 00:35.35 | cr2 | did you create earlyhatretlog.txt ? |
| 00:35.35 | Hymie | se |
| 00:35.44 | Hymie | touch earlyharetlog.txt |
| 00:35.48 | cr2 | earlyharetlog.txt |
| 00:35.49 | cr2 | yes. |
| 00:35.55 | Hymie | was on the SD card |
| 00:35.59 | cr2 | yes. |
| 00:36.02 | Hymie | in the same dir (root dir) as the executable |
| 00:36.06 | cr2 | yes. |
| 00:36.24 | Hymie | ah! |
| 00:36.25 | Hymie | sec |
| 00:37.04 | Hymie | ok |
| 00:37.07 | Hymie | we have 166 lines! |
| 00:37.19 | Hymie | pasting |
| 00:37.40 | cr2 | nice. |
| 00:37.56 | Hymie | http://pastebin.ca/761628 |
| 00:38.54 | cr2 | Function 'AhiInit' in library 'ace_ddi' at 017C3FAC |
| 00:38.59 | cr2 | that#s very nice :) |
| 00:39.12 | Hymie | ahiinit? audio? |
| 00:39.25 | cr2 | ATI |
| 00:39.31 | Hymie | ah |
| 00:39.37 | cr2 | at least video. |
| 00:39.47 | cr2 | looks like hermes to me. |
| 00:39.48 | Hymie | video is nice, hehe |
| 00:39.50 | Hymie | yeah |
| 00:39.52 | Hymie | I heard this |
| 00:39.54 | Hymie | but some small differences |
| 00:39.58 | cr2 | can you run ATIDBG ? |
| 00:40.07 | Hymie | tell me what I must do? |
| 00:40.15 | Hymie | just re-run the command? |
| 00:40.18 | Hymie | then type atidbg? |
| 00:40.22 | cr2 | Kevin2: (Plat='PocketPC' OEM='Palm Treo 750') |
| 00:40.34 | cr2 | either telnet |
| 00:40.36 | cr2 | or |
| 00:40.49 | cr2 | put |
| 00:40.55 | cr2 | atidbg |
| 00:41.08 | Hymie | in default.txt? |
| 00:41.12 | cr2 | to default.txt and press 'run' |
| 00:41.14 | cr2 | yes. |
| 00:43.14 | Hymie | hmm |
| 00:43.19 | Hymie | I see three lines in the window |
| 00:43.25 | Hymie | do you want some full log, or the three lines? |
| 00:43.38 | Hymie | atichipid=0x57491002 |
| 00:43.54 | Hymie | atiintmem=0x00030000 |
| 00:44.05 | Hymie | atiextmem=0x00000200000 |
| 00:44.07 | Hymie | er |
| 00:44.13 | Hymie | atiextmem=0x00200000 |
| 00:44.23 | cr2 | 2MB video ram |
| 00:44.32 | cr2 | 5749. hmm. |
| 00:44.42 | Hymie | 0x57491002 |
| 00:44.43 | Hymie | yeah |
| 00:45.02 | Hymie | I hear so many rumours on the boards about this thing |
| 00:45.06 | Hymie | but, I know that HTC built it |
| 00:45.23 | Hymie | I hear though, that unlike hermes, there is no disabled GPS |
| 00:45.30 | Hymie | that the chip is different or something |
| 00:45.40 | Hymie | and it has only one camera |
| 00:45.43 | cr2 | trinity has gps workin |
| 00:45.44 | Hymie | no wifi |
| 00:45.49 | cr2 | ok. |
| 00:45.54 | Hymie | but it does have bluetooth |
| 00:45.58 | cr2 | umts ? |
| 00:46.01 | Hymie | yup |
| 00:46.13 | Hymie | it's actually a nice little phone |
| 00:46.14 | cr2 | msm62xx ? |
| 00:46.25 | Hymie | not sure what that signifies |
| 00:46.32 | Hymie | what chip? |
| 00:46.33 | cr2 | umts chipset from qualcomm |
| 00:46.36 | Hymie | ah |
| 00:46.39 | Hymie | I don't know |
| 00:46.49 | cr2 | rom updates ? |
| 00:47.02 | cr2 | testwm5.exe ? |
| 00:47.03 | Hymie | you can update like the hermes |
| 00:47.11 | Hymie | I upgraded via flashcard for example |
| 00:47.13 | Hymie | to wm6 |
| 00:47.17 | cr2 | but are they availbale ? |
| 00:47.17 | Hymie | what is testwm5? |
| 00:47.20 | Hymie | yes |
| 00:47.23 | Hymie | ah |
| 00:47.29 | Hymie | to cut open the roms and play with them? |
| 00:47.31 | cr2 | a bit broken file dumper |
| 00:47.33 | cr2 | yes. |
| 00:47.33 | Hymie | some do on xda-developers |
| 00:47.37 | cr2 | ok. |
| 00:48.24 | Hymie | I also know people go in and remove.. for example, the carrier cab files and such |
| 00:48.26 | cr2 | http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=568 |
| 00:48.26 | Hymie | and repack the roms |
| 00:48.40 | Hymie | yes! |
| 00:48.42 | Hymie | this is my friend! |
| 00:49.01 | cr2 | miniSD, SDIO ? |
| 00:49.18 | Hymie | yeah |
| 00:49.22 | Hymie | not micro, minisd |
| 00:49.29 | Hymie | so now I havr three sizes here ;) |
| 00:49.34 | cr2 | ok. |
| 00:49.40 | Hymie | I don't know about sdio |
| 00:49.42 | Hymie | I'd hope so |
| 00:49.45 | Hymie | but I have nothing to test |
| 00:49.49 | Hymie | and haven't looked for info |
| 00:49.51 | cr2 | now we need to find out if it's ATI SD or S3C SDI. |
| 00:50.04 | cr2 | hermes uses both. |
| 00:50.10 | Hymie | hum |
| 00:50.55 | Hymie | is there some test we can do? |
| 00:51.11 | cr2 | i'm looking for 5749 |
| 00:52.03 | Hymie | http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:a0i7FPn-cZkJ:wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php%3Fpagename%3DAthenaW2284%26version%3D3+ati+0x57491002&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=ca |
| 00:52.08 | Hymie | is the same as athena! |
| 00:52.57 | cr2 | ok. |
| 00:53.04 | cr2 | i knew i put it into the wiki :) |
| 00:53.09 | Hymie | hehe |
| 00:53.22 | cr2 | and half the RAM. |
| 00:53.27 | Hymie | :( |
| 00:53.32 | Hymie | but how can I play doom now? |
| 00:53.54 | cr2 | HaRET(1)# atidbg |
| 00:53.58 | cr2 | ATI ChipId = 0x57441002 |
| 00:53.58 | cr2 | ATI Revision = 0x00000001 |
| 00:53.58 | cr2 | ATI RevisionId = 0x00000001 |
| 00:53.58 | cr2 | ATI BusInterfaceMode = 0x00000002 |
| 00:53.58 | cr2 | ATI InternalMemSize = 0x00060000 |
| 00:53.59 | cr2 | ATI ExternalMemSize = 0x00200000 |
| 00:54.10 | cr2 | not so fast :) |
| 00:54.24 | cr2 | can you .... |
| 00:54.42 | cr2 | well, need to find the ATI ram location first |
| 00:54.54 | cr2 | can you telnet to haret ? |
| 00:55.06 | cr2 | i'd like to know the FB address. |
| 00:55.07 | Hymie | well |
| 00:55.15 | Hymie | let me try something |
| 00:55.17 | cr2 | you can also add |
| 00:55.25 | cr2 | print "%x" VRAM |
| 00:55.30 | cr2 | to default.txt |
| 00:58.14 | Hymie | I added |
| 00:58.21 | Hymie | but it didn't print anything extra |
| 00:58.27 | Hymie | maybe pocket word sucks |
| 00:58.28 | Hymie | sec |
| 00:58.40 | Hymie | does telnet work over utms? |
| 00:59.05 | cr2 | ok, it's something to add to ATIDBG anyway. |
| 00:59.16 | cr2 | it depends on your provider. |
| 00:59.28 | cr2 | can you find out the IP address of your phone ? |
| 00:59.32 | Hymie | yeah, I know that, but I'm wondering about the device |
| 00:59.34 | Hymie | static IP |
| 00:59.35 | Hymie | and yes |
| 00:59.36 | Hymie | I can |
| 00:59.37 | Hymie | sec |
| 01:00.10 | cr2 | if the provider uses proxy and blocks port 23, then you can#t do much. |
| 01:00.25 | Hymie | it's a static IP |
| 01:00.29 | Hymie | but, not sure about the blocking |
| 01:00.35 | Hymie | I don't have any network tools on this thing, heh |
| 01:00.41 | Hymie | should make haret listen to some odd port |
| 01:00.59 | cr2 | Hymie: i'll compile a new version of haret. |
| 01:01.06 | Hymie | wait a sec |
| 01:01.08 | Hymie | let me try first |
| 01:02.18 | Hymie | using pocket putty to ssh in to get the ip |
| 01:02.20 | Hymie | slow connecting today |
| 01:04.17 | Hymie | hmm |
| 01:04.30 | Hymie | hmm |
| 01:04.32 | Hymie | hey! |
| 01:04.32 | Hymie | in ;) |
| 01:04.37 | Hymie | hey, this listens on port 9999 |
| 01:04.49 | Hymie | works fine! |
| 01:04.49 | Hymie | ok |
| 01:04.51 | Hymie | what should I do! |
| 01:05.17 | cr2 | type |
| 01:05.23 | cr2 | print "%x" VRAM |
| 01:05.42 | Hymie | 10800000 |
| 01:05.58 | cr2 | good. |
| 01:06.10 | cr2 | reply rejected. |
| 01:06.19 | Hymie | really? |
| 01:06.23 | Hymie | heh |
| 01:06.24 | Hymie | wow |
| 01:06.27 | Hymie | I have super rejection powers! |
| 01:06.31 | cr2 | doesn't matter. |
| 01:06.34 | Hymie | k |
| 01:06.41 | cr2 | i can read. |
| 01:07.02 | cr2 | it'll be faster. |
| 01:07.10 | cr2 | if i'll telnet |
| 01:07.11 | Hymie | sec |
| 01:07.27 | Hymie | first I kill my session |
| 01:07.34 | cr2 | ok. |
| 01:07.49 | cr2 | trying. |
| 01:08.00 | Hymie | waiting.. now |
| 01:08.04 | cr2 | Connection refused |
| 01:08.07 | Hymie | try again |
| 01:08.09 | cr2 | press 'listen again' |
| 01:08.17 | Hymie | hey! |
| 01:08.19 | cr2 | nice :) |
| 01:08.19 | Hymie | you're in, yes? |
| 01:08.21 | Hymie | cool |
| 01:08.29 | cr2 | yeah. |
| 01:08.31 | Hymie | it's utms |
| 01:08.35 | Hymie | so it shouldn't be too painful |
| 01:08.38 | Hymie | but there is some lag I found |
| 01:08.57 | Hymie | hey, don't search my contact book for my redheads, they are for me to date! |
| 01:09.08 | cr2 | oh. i'd better written it to disk. |
| 01:09.13 | Hymie | hehe |
| 01:09.32 | cr2 | 30000000+64M |
| 01:09.46 | cr2 | yes, standard config. |
| 01:10.28 | cr2 | boot at 0x0 |
| 01:11.30 | cr2 | CHEETAH SPL EVT |
| 01:11.37 | cr2 | so it's HTC CHETAAH |
| 01:11.41 | Hymie | yeah |
| 01:12.51 | cr2 | ok, looking for SD. |
| 01:13.25 | cr2 | btw, can you pasebin your atihwtbl0.txt ? |
| 01:13.49 | cr2 | haret needs a plain file dumper. |
| 01:14.03 | Hymie | yeah, but I don't know how it will effect you |
| 01:14.07 | cr2 | CAT |
| 01:14.10 | cr2 | what ? |
| 01:14.11 | Hymie | if I take the sd card out |
| 01:14.29 | cr2 | wait :) |
| 01:14.33 | cr2 | we can do it later. |
| 01:16.41 | cr2 | ok, ati control regs are there. |
| 01:19.13 | cr2 | SD is full of junk |
| 01:19.20 | cr2 | you must be happy :) |
| 01:19.26 | Hymie | hehe |
| 01:19.39 | cr2 | you don't use ATI SD |
| 01:19.44 | cr2 | like athena or hermes |
| 01:19.51 | Hymie | is this good or bad, do you think? |
| 01:20.11 | cr2 | it's good. the s3c SDI is used. linux driver availbale |
| 01:20.23 | cr2 | for ATI SD i need to write a driver first ;) |
| 01:20.24 | Hymie | well, that's good news |
| 01:20.39 | cr2 | but i've made it easy. |
| 01:21.28 | cr2 | CHEETAH IPL EVT |
| 01:21.31 | cr2 | at 0x0 |
| 01:21.57 | cr2 | ok, that's enough for today. |
| 01:22.06 | Hymie | says a tired cr2 ;) |
| 01:22.14 | Hymie | ok, I'll get the sd card now |
| 01:22.14 | cr2 | can you pastebin the atihwtbl0.txt ? |
| 01:22.23 | cr2 | then i'll go to bed. |
| 01:22.43 | cr2 | after looking at atihwtbl0.txt of course :) |
| 01:22.51 | Hymie | and I'll order my hamburger for dinner! |
| 01:23.28 | Hymie | hmm |
| 01:23.30 | cr2 | ok, so you'll use the atiw228x driver too. that's good. |
| 01:23.55 | Hymie | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:23.55 | Hymie | default.txt earlyharetlog.txt haretlog.txt |
| 01:24.24 | Hymie | oh |
| 01:24.28 | Hymie | I think it's just in haretlog.txt |
| 01:24.28 | cr2 | Hymie: \windows\aitwhtbl0.txt |
| 01:24.34 | Hymie | ok |
| 01:24.43 | cr2 | ati not ait ;) |
| 01:24.49 | cr2 | it's the LCD config file. |
| 01:25.16 | cr2 | it can be picked out of the reg dump, but i don't yet know how ;) |
| 01:25.41 | cr2 | but need to know. |
| 01:25.46 | Hymie | takes time for windows dir oto show in fileexplorwer |
| 01:25.49 | cr2 | to make the LCD work properly. |
| 01:26.02 | cr2 | yeah. wince is fast. |
| 01:26.33 | Hymie | wow |
| 01:26.33 | cr2 | it's painful even on athena with 624MHz and 128MB RAM |
| 01:26.37 | Hymie | it didn't sort alphabetically |
| 01:26.41 | Hymie | I'm using resco |
| 01:26.42 | Hymie | now |
| 01:26.47 | cr2 | lol |
| 01:27.47 | Hymie | ok |
| 01:27.48 | Hymie | 99l |
| 01:27.48 | Hymie | sec |
| 01:28.26 | Hymie | http://pastebin.ca/761660 |
| 01:29.21 | cr2 | yes, looks like hermes config. |
| 01:29.30 | cr2 | "ClkXtalFreq"=dword:16000000 // 16MHz |
| 01:29.30 | cr2 | "ClkSysFastFreq"=dword:192000000 // 192MHz , 2005.12.26 update |
| 01:29.53 | Hymie | uploading the complete harellog |
| 01:30.00 | Hymie | maximum allowable file size is 150,000 bytes. You sent us a file that is too big. Sorry, it is being ignored. |
| 01:30.01 | Hymie | bah |
| 01:30.18 | Hymie | you want this file? |
| 01:30.24 | Hymie | I can gzip and give oyu an url |
| 01:30.34 | Hymie | looks like a memory map |
| 01:31.18 | cr2 | yes, it was 'dump mmu' |
| 01:31.29 | cr2 | well, i know what i wanted to see. |
| 01:31.35 | cr2 | don't upload it. |
| 01:31.42 | Hymie | ok |
| 01:31.47 | cr2 | ok |
| 01:32.15 | cr2 | good night :) |
| 01:32.27 | Hymie | same! |
| 01:32.28 | Hymie | thanks! |
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| 07:48.41 | welp | no offence, but the docs really need to be worked on... if i get this going, i'll look into upadting the docs for you. |
| 07:49.32 | welp | *updating |
| 07:58.12 | welp | mmh, got linux booted, now to work out how to log in without the ownership of serial cable |
| 07:58.33 | welp | ooh, ignore me, i'm being silly again :) |
| 08:02.50 | welp | so, basically, what i want to do is create a folder on my memory card, containing the zImage, initrd, haret.exe, and startup.txt. Then i run haret.exe on the pda. then i login via ssh, username: root, password: rootme. |
| 08:03.18 | welp | should i run haret.exe with the blueangel connected to the computer via the usb cable? |
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| 08:38.50 | ivucica | cr2, are you perhaps here? |
| 08:39.33 | ivucica | i have been looking through the h3800 MMC driver |
| 08:40.08 | ivucica | and by comparing it to some other drivers in the same directory, it looks to me like the whole mmc driver structure has changed heavily |
| 08:40.25 | ivucica | it would seem that writing a new driver would be easier than adapting the existing one |
| 08:41.23 | ivucica | if you (or someone else? ;) would care to kindly introduce me to both 2.4 and 2.6 mmc driver interfaces, i might be able to do some work |
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| 08:53.27 | ivucica | ah well |
| 08:59.56 | ivucica | good bye! |
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| 09:11.46 | welp | ooh, got linux booted, and ssh'd in |
| 09:11.56 | welp | now i need to work out how to get a shiny GUI :P |
| 09:15.23 | welp | but first... school |
| 09:15.32 | welp | any advice left for me would be much appreciated |
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| 11:12.26 | hx2k | hi |
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| 14:07.54 | m0a- | Hello people. |
| 14:08.30 | m0a- | I need some info on various dists. of linux available for qtek pu10 / Imate jasjar / o2x2da |
| 14:09.47 | m0a- | eLL0... |
| 14:12.53 | m0a- | Um, anyone around....?? |
| 14:13.50 | cr2 | m0a-: there is only 1 dist |
| 14:13.59 | cr2 | angstrom |
| 14:14.11 | m0a- | ok. :) |
| 14:14.12 | m0a- | thanks |
| 14:14.21 | m0a- | and what about those other forum posts? |
| 14:14.27 | m0a- | like opie |
| 14:14.30 | m0a- | or something |
| 14:14.53 | m0a- | and the dist on anytux.org |
| 14:15.20 | m0a- | it says it supports the pda... but the thing is i want a highly calibrated dist. |
| 14:15.20 | Mineque | opie is only window manager |
| 14:15.23 | m0a- | so asking. |
| 14:15.34 | Mineque | with typical pda app |
| 14:15.35 | m0a- | Oh, ok. I am new to this. Pardon. |
| 14:15.37 | m0a- | :) |
| 14:15.41 | Mineque | n/p |
| 14:15.46 | m0a- | ok. thanks. |
| 14:16.03 | m0a- | But i had tried to install the linux using the bootrom in the site |
| 14:16.12 | m0a- | the pda heats up, why is it? |
| 14:16.16 | m0a- | is it a problem? |
| 14:16.18 | cr2 | opie/gpe/gpe2/openmoko/opie2 are guis on top of the base distro. |
| 14:16.30 | m0a- | Oh, thanks, now i understand. |
| 14:16.32 | m0a- | :) |
| 14:16.41 | cr2 | it is charging ? is wifi on ? |
| 14:16.47 | m0a- | nope. |
| 14:16.52 | m0a- | even beam is off. |
| 14:17.06 | cr2 | you use opie ? |
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| 14:17.16 | m0a- | No... the one on the wiki site. |
| 14:17.22 | m0a- | i used that. |
| 14:17.25 | BabelO | rohhh Linux compatibility very limited compatible for blueangel |
| 14:17.40 | m0a- | blueangle = jasjar? :P |
| 14:17.53 | m0a- | or somehting else? |
| 14:17.54 | cr2 | m0a-: which site ? |
| 14:17.59 | m0a- | sec... |
| 14:18.02 | m0a- | brb |
| 14:18.05 | cr2 | blueangel is blueangel. |
| 14:18.14 | darksoull | hi everyone |
| 14:18.17 | m0a- | from here... |
| 14:18.17 | m0a- | http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/Universal |
| 14:18.22 | m0a- | oh, ok. :) |
| 14:18.42 | m0a- | i did install that, but reflashed a business edition of wm6. |
| 14:19.06 | m0a- | as i was not immune to it. And it was not, to my device. |
| 14:19.21 | cr2 | http://linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa ? |
| 14:19.37 | BabelO | cr2: http://anytux.org/hardware.php?baureihe_id=161 |
| 14:19.47 | m0a- | should i check iut cr2? |
| 14:20.10 | m0a- | i mean thats the link for the linux ed u r speaking? |
| 14:20.25 | m0a- | yupp got em. thanks. |
| 14:20.26 | m0a- | :) |
| 14:20.30 | cr2 | m0a-: check if opie2 works. |
| 14:20.30 | m0a- | much appreciated. |
| 14:20.46 | m0a- | ok, will u guide me through the installation please? |
| 14:20.58 | m0a- | if anything goes wrong... |
| 14:21.51 | cr2 | BabelO: fair enough ;) we need to do something. |
| 14:22.26 | cr2 | m0a-: we are here. you need to unpack the distro on the SD card, and install the .cab file |
| 14:22.32 | m0a- | cr2, - Thanks will download and check it. |
| 14:22.33 | m0a- | ok. |
| 14:22.36 | m0a- | i will do it. :) |
| 14:22.48 | cr2 | it may be easier, but don't have time to do it. |
| 14:23.06 | m0a- | ok. |
| 14:26.57 | cr2 | BabelO: is it still a tool of choice ? -> http://www.fdos.org/ripcord/rawrite |
| 14:29.20 | m0a- | cr2, is terminal available in the version i am trying to install now? |
| 14:29.30 | cr2 | gui terminal ? |
| 14:29.37 | m0a- | nope console. |
| 14:29.42 | m0a- | for doing programming. |
| 14:29.55 | cr2 | hmm. |
| 14:29.58 | m0a- | *doing some minor |
| 14:30.03 | cr2 | you need to change the runlevel probably. |
| 14:30.12 | cr2 | because default is to start the gui |
| 14:30.18 | m0a- | i am new to this jargon. |
| 14:30.20 | m0a- | ok. |
| 14:30.28 | cr2 | and there is no working "xterm" for opie2 afaik. |
| 14:30.40 | m0a- | ok. |
| 14:30.45 | cr2 | ok, i must leave now. bbl |
| 14:30.58 | m0a- | ok. thanks though. have a nice day. |
| 14:37.28 | darksoull | could anybody tell me what's the best (computer like) linux distribution for htc universal? |
| 14:39.44 | darksoull | anybody there? |
| 14:42.14 | BabelO | darksoull: look here http://www.linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcuniversal/index.html |
| 14:45.06 | darksoull | i've already seen this page and downloaded opie and gpe |
| 14:45.21 | darksoull | actually i've installed gpe |
| 14:45.37 | darksoull | but nothing seems to work |
| 14:45.47 | darksoull | neither touchscreen |
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| 14:47.25 | m0a- | darksoull, here is another ii suppose, but even i am a beginner. |
| 14:47.26 | m0a- | http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/Universal |
| 14:48.18 | m0a- | But i am also downloading the opieII as instructed by cr2 here. |
| 14:48.38 | m0a- | let me try if i can get it to work. lol. |
| 14:48.56 | darksoull | :) |
| 14:51.24 | darksoull | i'm wondering if there is anything i've to configure in order to have it working |
| 14:58.10 | darksoull | from that page (http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/Universal) seems that almost everything is working on universal, but i can't understand what version (GPE, OPIE or OPIEII) they're talking about |
| 15:01.31 | m0a- | Well as far as i understand they are different GUI's and minor kernel enhancments. |
| 15:01.44 | m0a- | gpe and opie are GUI's for the kernels. |
| 15:01.59 | m0a- | like xserver interfaces... |
| 15:02.04 | m0a- | kde, genome... etc. |
| 15:02.09 | m0a- | hope that helps. |
| 15:02.17 | darksoull | tnx |
| 15:02.27 | m0a- | Np. :) |
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| 15:09.24 | m0a- | where to find rndis drivers? |
| 15:09.33 | m0a- | i am on vista. |
| 15:10.27 | BabelO | m0a-: there is no real rndis driver it is just a linux.inf file to register |
| 15:10.49 | m0a- | ok. |
| 15:10.56 | m0a- | i will try it. |
| 15:11.05 | m0a- | thanks BabelO. |
| 15:11.40 | BabelO | m0a-: linux.inf file is in your kernel trees underDocumentation/usb |
| 15:12.00 | m0a- | ok, thanks again, u did half of the work. :P |
| 15:12.09 | m0a- | much appreciated. |
| 15:15.06 | goxboxlive | hi BabelO |
| 15:34.48 | BabelO | hi goxboxlive |
| 15:58.41 | darksoull | m0a-: any news? |
| 16:30.03 | BabelO | cr2: i remember the old rawrite, if i remember well there is some problem with win xp, low level access :( |
| 16:31.01 | welp | hmmm |
| 16:31.20 | welp | i got linux working on my blueangel, with gpe |
| 16:31.33 | cr2 | welp: which version ? |
| 16:31.47 | welp | of what? familiar or gpe? |
| 16:31.59 | welp | (or even the blueangel?) |
| 16:32.33 | welp | but! sometimes when i enter a letter, it keeps repeating itself, and refuses to stop repeating |
| 16:32.34 | cr2 | ba boardid, kernel version |
| 16:32.38 | welp | until i do a soft reset |
| 16:32.50 | welp | board id;v0.5 |
| 16:32.53 | BabelO | welp: yes known bug ;Ã you use 2.6.21 |
| 16:32.59 | welp | eer, lemme check the kernel version |
| 16:33.09 | BabelO | welp: if you press wuickly backspace sometimes it come back |
| 16:34.03 | welp | hm, my initrd is versioned 2.6.12... |
| 16:34.05 | BabelO | s/wuickly/quickly/ |
| 16:34.22 | welp | yeah, worked that out ;) |
| 16:34.40 | BabelO | welp can you try http://www.linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa |
| 16:34.47 | welp | i'm a native speaker of english, and i've spent a good couple of years on IRC, so i'm quite good at decrypting bad english :P |
| 16:35.19 | BabelO | welp: thanks for bad english :( |
| 16:35.29 | welp | BabelO: no offence :P |
| 16:35.37 | BabelO | ;) |
| 16:35.43 | welp | which one do you want me to use? |
| 16:36.00 | welp | aieee! my laptop won't come on! :o |
| 16:36.03 | welp | *plugs in the charger* |
| 16:37.12 | BabelO | welp: http://www.linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcblueangel/x11-GPE this one with zImage,haret.exe and statup.txt from O.P.I.E-II directory |
| 16:37.19 | welp | okies |
| 16:37.37 | welp | wasn't sure whether you wanted me to try a particular version or what |
| 16:38.41 | welp | also, is it possible to switch it off in some way or form with newer versions? ;) |
| 16:38.49 | cr2 | welp: it looks as if your kernel is also 2.6.12 ? |
| 16:38.56 | cr2 | since you run familiar. |
| 16:39.12 | BabelO | welp: i think with previous link you can switch off with power button, only on Boardid 5 |
| 16:39.31 | BabelO | welp: and maybe wifi works too |
| 16:40.47 | cr2 | BabelO: ATI created 2 software layers on top of the bare metal, and then calls AhiDevRegWrite from the second layer :) |
| 16:41.48 | welp | i have boardid 5 |
| 16:42.01 | welp | downloading gpe stuff atm |
| 16:42.42 | BabelO | cr2: did you see any camera related function ? |
| 16:43.06 | cr2 | BabelO: yes, but i |
| 16:43.17 | cr2 | m looking at w2284 |
| 16:43.22 | welp | BabelO: where's the initrd? |
| 16:43.47 | cr2 | BabelO: i'm interested in the higher level controls. |
| 16:43.50 | welp | cr2: yeah, 2.6.12 |
| 16:43.55 | cr2 | lowlevel is better traced by haret. |
| 16:44.04 | cr2 | welp: 2 years old ;) |
| 16:44.08 | welp | oh, bs |
| 16:44.16 | welp | some of the stuff on the 'net *really* needs updating :| |
| 16:45.08 | cr2 | welp: where did you get it from ? |
| 16:45.42 | welp | BabelO: got the zImage, haret.exe, startup.exe and the gpe thingie, anything else i need? |
| 16:45.57 | BabelO | welp no |
| 16:46.04 | welp | cr2: i think i found links on either that xda-developer place or handhelds.org |
| 16:46.08 | welp | or whatever it ws |
| 16:46.10 | BabelO | welp: there is no initrd, booting directly from second partition |
| 16:46.10 | welp | *was |
| 16:46.20 | welp | BabelO: oh.. funky |
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| 16:46.53 | cr2 | welp: you are running the first ever released hacked version. |
| 16:47.02 | cr2 | it does not support >1GB SD too. |
| 16:47.16 | welp | ow |
| 16:47.22 | welp | poor welp :( |
| 16:48.53 | Hymie | cr2: I guess the treo750 probably has many of the same problems the hermes has for linux? do you tihnk that it is worthwhile to try any more tests / attempt anything? |
| 16:50.07 | Hymie | hmm |
| 16:50.21 | Hymie | it says the universal has 'mini usb' connectivity.. does this mean it has a built in USB hub?! |
| 16:50.59 | cr2 | Hymie: no, universal does not have a hub. |
| 16:51.09 | Hymie | doh, universal doesn't do HSDPA :( |
| 16:51.18 | cr2 | Hymie: treo is ok. |
| 16:51.44 | welp | after i get to grips with how everything works with the current versions, i might consider getting gentoo up and running |
| 16:51.47 | welp | :P |
| 16:51.59 | Hymie | cr2: you mean, treo is ok to leave alone for now, or treo is ok to do more tests? |
| 16:52.11 | cr2 | has the TS on s3c ADC, SD on s3c SDI, etc. |
| 16:52.49 | cr2 | Hymie: it needs gpio tracing, and i think we can create a kernel soon. |
| 16:53.00 | cr2 | inside ? yeah, it' interesting. |
| 16:53.15 | cr2 | tytn2=kaiser |
| 16:53.19 | Hymie | cr2: I always like the greatest and latest.. so I wonder if it is more fun to get the tytn II for linux ;) |
| 16:53.20 | cr2 | msm7200 |
| 16:53.36 | cr2 | Hymie: PITA with the CPU. |
| 16:53.41 | cr2 | no docs. |
| 16:53.49 | Hymie | doh |
| 16:54.00 | cr2 | if you want a working HSDPA, stay with treo |
| 16:54.08 | cr2 | it looks really good. |
| 16:54.25 | Hymie | cr2: I only wondered because I heard that the tytn and the treo were very close, but I know that tytn has lots of pain for you |
| 16:54.43 | Hymie | but, I also know that there is no wifi on treo, no gps and such ... so |
| 16:54.46 | Hymie | maybe not so much the same |
| 16:54.55 | cr2 | tytn is difficult, because it uses ATI SD controller for the card. |
| 16:55.07 | cr2 | treo is more like g500 |
| 16:55.08 | Hymie | you know.... |
| 16:55.27 | welp | BabelO: seems to be working - 2.6.21-hh11 |
| 16:55.37 | Hymie | I wonder, because Palm keeps talking about using Linux, I wonder if they thought they might use this with it, and tried to find something as compatible as possible |
| 16:55.55 | welp | BabelO: hmm, it doesn't seem to be able to work out what my device is in system information -> hardware |
| 16:56.04 | Hymie | cr2: ok, well... so, anything I can do next? One good thing is that I can at least get into the device via telnet, as you know |
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| 16:59.21 | D0pamine | welp made me do it |
| 17:00.32 | Hymie | ok, well.. I will bbl, must go buy pants ;P |
| 17:01.10 | cr2 | Hymie: they are lazy losers. with their resources they could have running linux already ;) |
| 17:01.43 | cr2 | with 2-3 devs it's a 1 week project to make it run. |
| 17:01.56 | cr2 | power management is a bit more complex. |
| 17:03.14 | welp | damn! |
| 17:03.31 | welp | BabelO: just got that bug again |
| 17:03.45 | welp | (the one where it keeps entering the same thing tons |
| 17:04.17 | GPFerror | hi, i have the cingular 8525 and just bought a 2gb micro-sd, where do i start to try out/help with getting linux running? |
| 17:04.21 | cr2 | welp: it's the spi keyboard driver. |
| 17:04.33 | cr2 | GPFerror: what is the htc name ? |
| 17:04.43 | GPFerror | i think its a hermes |
| 17:06.34 | welp | cr2: do you have any idea whether there's a fix anywhere? |
| 17:06.44 | cr2 | GPFerror: it's not really working. |
| 17:07.33 | cr2 | welp: no really. it's some timer problem i think. |
| 17:08.05 | welp | ouch, well that's going to be annoying |
| 17:08.27 | welp | unless i use the on-screen kb the whole time... (btw, does the problem apply to that?) |
| 17:08.36 | GPFerror | ok, anyway i can help make it work? not done much low level linux coding other then little hacks for uClinux running on nintendo ds |
| 17:09.05 | cr2 | welp: no. i#m surprised that you use the keyboard. |
| 17:09.29 | cr2 | GPFerror: i need to finish the ATI SD driver. |
| 17:09.32 | welp | i find a physical kb nicer than on-screen stuff |
| 17:09.54 | cr2 | GPFerror: or you can look at the touchscreen and serial ports. |
| 17:10.10 | BabelO | welp: ok , yes bug is still here, but you have wifi now ;) |
| 17:11.10 | welp | i was attempting to type in my essid when i hit that kb bug :( |
| 17:12.01 | cr2 | welp: the keys are so small. |
| 17:12.40 | welp | my brother reckons my hands are really girly. :P |
| 17:12.53 | welp | (plus, i use my thumb..) |
| 17:14.25 | cr2 | but we need to fix the spi keyboard stuff. |
| 17:14.41 | cr2 | hermes and athena also use it. and probably others. |
| 17:14.52 | cr2 | treo750 i think :) |
| 17:36.04 | welp | hmm, how do i get it to connect to my laptop with usbnet thingie? i've put it in the cradle, and i've modprobed usbnet on my computer, but i'm not getting anything... |
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| 17:42.12 | cr2 | welp: lsusb ? |
| 17:47.35 | BabelO | welp: check also /etc/network/interface line on atop auto usb0 if you need autoconnect, else you need to modprobe g_ether by hand |
| 17:49.09 | welp | hrm, no /lib/modules/2.6.21-hh11/modules.dep |
| 17:50.17 | cr2 | BabelO: so how does one run rawrite on xp or vista ? |
| 17:51.46 | BabelO | cr2: not sure, long time ago i see some dos directory on suse installation cd |
| 17:52.30 | BabelO | welp: ls /lib/modules/2.6.21-hh11 ? myabe i give you the wrong zImage :( |
| 17:53.27 | welp | there's nothing in /lib/modules/ |
| 17:53.39 | BabelO | really ? :( |
| 17:53.48 | welp | really :( |
| 17:54.33 | BabelO | welp: if you know what you are doing then just download O.P.I.E-II image, take /lib/modules/2.6.21-hh1 and copy it to your current installed image, i ll upload a new gpe later |
| 17:55.20 | welp | sure |
| 17:55.43 | welp | ow, 30MB :( |
| 17:57.18 | BabelO | welp: opieII image look a bit better, but big yes :( |
| 17:57.45 | welp | how much progress has been made with opieII? |
| 18:04.28 | BabelO | welp: a lot but actually we have segfault with modem, ljp is looking at our code |
| 18:05.07 | BabelO | welp: this version is qtopia4.3.0 not really opieII, and opieII name had changed |
| 18:10.33 | cr2 | BabelO: hermes is seriously confused by rndis |
| 18:10.36 | cr2 | http://synce.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/synce/trunk/patches/linux-2.6.22-rndis_host-wm5.patch |
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| 18:10.46 | cr2 | i don't want to patch the kernel. |
| 18:11.27 | cr2 | i wonder how big is dev->maxpacket |
| 18:11.56 | cr2 | and dev->hard_mtu |
| 18:12.08 | cr2 | and if i can change them from userspace. |
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| 18:29.02 | BabelO_ | cr2: you can change MTU / MRU with ifconfig... |
| 18:29.13 | BabelO_ | default is always 15000 |
| 18:29.19 | BabelO_ | s/15000/1500/ |
| 18:30.48 | welp | is apt a bot? o.O |
| 18:31.13 | welp | lol, so it is.. :P |
| 18:31.38 | pH5 | good evening |
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| 18:40.45 | wireddd | so if htc is part of this oha, I wonder if they will provide any help to get android/linux working properly on their old phones |
| 18:41.41 | welp | BabelO_: hrm, how can i make sure that the battery is charging properly? i had it in the cradle for ~20-30 minutes or so, but it didn't charge at all, and the battery monitor thing didn't change at all |
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| 18:55.01 | BabelO | yes i got it :) |
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| 18:55.24 | BabelO | welp: to see if battery is charging properly, just use apm command |
| 18:55.34 | welp | hrm |
| 18:55.46 | welp | that reminds me, the monitor on the panel said that it was charging |
| 18:55.51 | welp | and that it was at 38% or something |
| 18:56.06 | BabelO | welp: actually battery won't chargeif it is just over USB, kernel usb driver can't ask high power to computer |
| 18:56.10 | welp | but when i had to reset it to get my SD card back, windows said i had 17% :/ |
| 18:56.19 | welp | oh? |
| 18:56.24 | welp | so i need to get a mains charger? |
| 18:56.48 | welp | damn |
| 18:56.56 | BabelO | welp: then yes, it is a know kernel issue on all devices |
| 18:57.21 | welp | right, i need to go hunting for a power thingie |
| 18:57.45 | BabelO | welp: when i use ba on craddle i just shut off all ( led, screen , bt) and sometimes mA is sufficiant |
| 18:58.08 | BabelO | welp: to shutdown look in /sys/class/ |
| 18:58.13 | welp | i think i need to pay a visit to proporta.com |
| 18:58.26 | BabelO | and just echo 0 > brightness or something like that |
| 18:58.31 | welp | i attempted to use poweroff, i don't think it worked properly... |
| 18:58.47 | BabelO | poweroff .. hmm apm -s works |
| 18:58.54 | welp | is that suspend? |
| 18:58.59 | BabelO | yes |
| 18:59.07 | welp | yeah, i needed to take the SD card out |
| 18:59.13 | welp | so needed to completely switch off |
| 18:59.39 | welp | btw, power button won't make it suspend, but it will switch it back on |
| 18:59.46 | BabelO | halt |
| 19:01.04 | welp | oh, ok |
| 19:01.23 | welp | BabelO: thanks for all your help btw |
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| 19:09.34 | BabelO | welp: yes apt is a bot |
| 19:14.53 | cr2 | pH5: i'm remembering that the sdg bl on hx4700 was also using the SD card bethod to boot. |
| 19:15.51 | cr2 | pH5: can we hack your .S to be a generic zimage loader ? |
| 19:16.35 | cr2 | BabelO: where is your latest qtopia4 image ? i'd like to play a dumb user :) |
| 19:17.24 | BabelO | cr2: at linuxtogo :)i upload the latest |
| 19:17.50 | cr2 | Hymie: i'd like suggest you a nice test :) |
| 19:20.12 | pH5 | cr2: no, the sdg bl just used the sd card method to be flashed at 0x40000 in nor flash. it doesn't automatically execute the code. |
| 19:21.08 | cr2 | pH5: ok, but it's easy to change it. let's say the zImage is always loaded at 16MB. |
| 19:21.37 | cr2 | then the tags should be at -32K ? |
| 19:22.45 | pH5 | "The recommended placement is in the first 16KiB of RAM." |
| 19:22.49 | cr2 | or maybe better load the tags at 16MB, and the zimage higher. |
| 19:22.57 | cr2 | "recommended" |
| 19:23.12 | pH5 | in principle anywhere where the decompressor or initrd won't overwrite it is possible |
| 19:23.23 | cr2 | zImage may be placed at any location. |
| 19:23.40 | cr2 | i'm only uncertain which memory is used by decompressor. |
| 19:23.47 | pH5 | cr2: but it will be unpacked and overwritten. atags are kept afaiu. |
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| 19:24.49 | cr2 | ok, then the minibl needs to relocate the tags/zimage like haret is doing it. |
| 19:25.01 | pH5 | the only limitation is that the kernel needs 16k below zImage start for page tables. |
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| 19:27.12 | pH5 | I wish there was some way to read back flash contents in the herald bl, but I can't find any. |
| 19:27.30 | cr2 | it's nand ? |
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| 19:28.43 | pH5 | doc h3 or g4 |
| 19:29.04 | cr2 | ok. |
| 19:29.12 | pH5 | but don't they all have some mb nor mapped directly? |
| 19:29.15 | cr2 | g4 is doable |
| 19:29.28 | pH5 | I don't know which one I have, both exist. |
| 19:29.32 | cr2 | 1 page for ipl |
| 19:30.06 | cr2 | i can send you the 90% ready g3.c :) |
| 19:30.26 | cr2 | in g4 some undocumented regs are different. |
| 19:30.38 | cr2 | hm. i need to put that in wiki. |
| 19:33.33 | wireddd | so has anyone asked htc for specs on any of their stuff? |
| 19:33.56 | cr2 | wireddd: are you joking ? |
| 19:34.13 | wireddd | well they are part of the oha |
| 19:34.34 | wireddd | so I would think they would be somewhat open to the idea |
| 19:34.41 | cr2 | mdoc g3/4 is used on greenphone and a680/a760/a780 |
| 19:34.51 | cr2 | all native linux phones. |
| 19:34.56 | cr2 | no driver source. |
| 19:35.13 | cr2 | it's more of m-sys policy i guess |
| 19:35.18 | pH5 | ~lart m-sys |
| 19:35.18 | apt | pours gasoline all over m-sys, ignites the fire, and then enjoys some toasty marshmallows with the glorious blaze |
| 19:35.34 | cr2 | like security through obscurity i guess. |
| 19:36.14 | cr2 | they intentionally put out an incomplete and unusable datasheet. |
| 19:52.54 | welp | BabelO: 'k, suspending it will allow it to.. trickle charge, at the most |
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| 20:20.49 | kiozen | hi |
| 20:21.18 | BabelO | hi kiozen :) |
| 20:21.26 | starchyld | Hello. |
| 20:21.37 | Zoolooc | hi there |
| 20:22.20 | kiozen | hi BabelO, big new, ordered a FSC Loox N560 to get into the QtOpia business |
| 20:22.56 | kiozen | next goal: something like OziExplorer |
| 20:23.35 | kiozen | it's your fault - you kooked me ;) |
| 20:23.52 | kiozen | s/kooked/hooked |
| 20:25.01 | cr2 | lol |
| 20:25.17 | cr2 | athena turned into portrait mode. |
| 20:25.23 | BabelO | kiozen: lol |
| 20:25.24 | kiozen | don't laugh, better tell me where to start reading |
| 20:25.38 | cr2 | reading what ? |
| 20:25.39 | BabelO | kiozen: to read about qtopia ? |
| 20:25.52 | kiozen | how to get linux on the N560 |
| 20:25.59 | cr2 | c550 |
| 20:26.09 | cr2 | we will hack the rest. |
| 20:26.12 | cr2 | like gps. |
| 20:26.24 | cr2 | should be easy. |
| 20:26.28 | kiozen | shouldn't gps be NMEA? |
| 20:26.28 | cr2 | i like pxa cpus :) |
| 20:26.37 | cr2 | it's a serial port. |
| 20:26.49 | cr2 | you want sirf binary ? |
| 20:27.00 | kiozen | I need intelligent power management first |
| 20:27.03 | cr2 | it's gpsd business |
| 20:27.13 | kiozen | to save battery in the great outdoor |
| 20:27.19 | cr2 | power management is driver issue. |
| 20:27.26 | cr2 | per-driver |
| 20:27.40 | cr2 | we just need to go through the list. |
| 20:28.14 | kiozen | ok, leave gps powered and the rest with very low performance |
| 20:28.31 | cr2 | yes, why not. |
| 20:28.32 | kiozen | hope to get more than 5 h out of it by that. |
| 20:28.43 | cr2 | we will see. |
| 20:29.03 | kiozen | any links to the right toolchain and initial reading? |
| 20:29.26 | BabelO | kiozen: with cpufreq and dynamic tick, should be possible ;) |
| 20:29.34 | cr2 | install oe |
| 20:29.42 | kiozen | I trust on you guys :) |
| 20:30.09 | cr2 | :) |
| 20:30.37 | kiozen | outlook express ? |
| 20:30.43 | pH5 | OpenEmbedded |
| 20:30.56 | kiozen | :) |
| 20:31.07 | cr2 | n560 is a simple device compared to the PITA that we have ;) |
| 20:31.35 | kiozen | I love simple things |
| 20:31.44 | kiozen | like the Garmin img format :/ |
| 20:34.15 | cr2 | hm. i need to add .rdm read/write to gpsmapedit |
| 20:34.46 | cr2 | kiozen: the old version of gpsmapedit is free and can be compiled with winelib. |
| 20:34.52 | cr2 | and it actually works. |
| 20:35.12 | cr2 | i only had problems with reading garmin img. |
| 20:35.25 | kiozen | fire up the ole VC6.0! |
| 20:35.26 | cr2 | maybe because of the non-packed structs |
| 20:35.30 | starchyld | Is this room for general chat about any linux on any htc machine? Or is there a bias or preference? |
| 20:35.53 | cr2 | or maybe because the mkgmap is a bit buggy ;) |
| 20:36.01 | kiozen | lol |
| 20:36.19 | kiozen | ok, that is not fair |
| 20:36.34 | cr2 | starchyld: it's htc-linux channel. no preferences. |
| 20:36.36 | kiozen | encoders are always harder than decoders |
| 20:37.30 | cr2 | and i really dislike the raster code in mapedit |
| 20:37.42 | kiozen | ??? |
| 20:37.44 | cr2 | gdal is the one true way |
| 20:37.57 | starchyld | Thanks :-) Is anybody here using debian4 on a universal? |
| 20:38.07 | cr2 | yeah, and the ozf2 |
| 20:38.22 | kiozen | yes gdal is cool, my current geotiff code is fast as hell |
| 20:39.04 | cr2 | starchyld: not really. we are mainly concerned about the kernel bugs (aka leaking current) and the gui phone stuff |
| 20:39.48 | cr2 | kiozen: i've even understood how to create compressed tiled format without crashing. this bug seems to be 2 years old. |
| 20:40.17 | kiozen | huh, waht bug? |
| 20:40.34 | cr2 | you can't use compression with gdalwarp |
| 20:40.47 | cr2 | it segfaults in 90% of cases |
| 20:41.10 | cr2 | you should gdalwarp to uncompressed first |
| 20:41.26 | kiozen | don't need gdal wrap, a zoom factor more than 4x is bad anyway |
| 20:41.39 | cr2 | and then use gdal_translate -co tiled=yes -co compress=deflate ... |
| 20:42.02 | cr2 | ok, i'm bad graphics designer. |
| 20:42.13 | kiozen | I convert my source into tiled compressed geotiffs driectly :) |
| 20:42.15 | kiozen | wnat code? |
| 20:42.23 | cr2 | ozf2 is not using binary overviews anyway. |
| 20:42.41 | kiozen | ugh my typing, bulgarian schnaps, bad idea |
| 20:42.48 | cr2 | yes, writing tiff directly works. |
| 20:43.13 | cr2 | it's a gdal, not a libtiff problem. |
| 20:43.52 | kiozen | well it works for my landesvermessungsamt maps good enought |
| 20:43.59 | cr2 | well, it's libtiff that can't update compressed on the fly actually. |
| 20:44.06 | cr2 | but you are warping it ? |
| 20:44.12 | kiozen | no |
| 20:44.22 | cr2 | as in GK->mercator. |
| 20:44.23 | cr2 | ok. |
| 20:44.39 | kiozen | I keep it as it is |
| 20:44.57 | kiozen | if you transform it to mercator, distortions a bad |
| 20:45.14 | cr2 | it's a rotation. |
| 20:45.23 | cr2 | mainly |
| 20:45.32 | Hymie | cr2: what test do you suggest? |
| 20:45.43 | kiozen | yes, but not really |
| 20:46.09 | cr2 | Hymie: get the hermes-loader.exe, and force the hermes MTYPE. then you should boot. |
| 20:46.18 | cr2 | Hymie: but in 400MHz mode :) |
| 20:46.28 | cr2 | kiozen: agreed. |
| 20:47.32 | Hymie | cr2: ok, point me to this loader, or whatever you need me to do |
| 20:48.19 | cr2 | Hymie: no fomatting, just run a wince .exe |
| 20:48.32 | cr2 | kiozen: do you have a prototype already ? :) |
| 20:48.46 | kiozen | for what? |
| 20:49.00 | cr2 | kiozen: you've put mapsource out of the business, i expect the same will happen with ozi :) |
| 20:49.10 | cr2 | ozi may be even more painful. |
| 20:49.18 | kiozen | hehe :) |
| 20:49.33 | cr2 | because there is no usb code there, so it'll compile directly on windows. |
| 20:49.44 | cr2 | and on mac. |
| 20:50.02 | Hymie | cr2: I wait for you to point my nose at this exe |
| 20:50.11 | cr2 | Hymie: searching. |
| 20:50.14 | Hymie | cr2: oh, sorry |
| 20:50.42 | cr2 | Hymie: http://handhelds.org/~koconnor/HTCHermes |
| 20:50.51 | cr2 | get latest herm-linux-* |
| 20:51.06 | cr2 | hmm. will not work so easy. |
| 20:51.30 | cr2 | because it'll hang on the wrong mtype. |
| 20:51.54 | Hymie | doh |
| 20:52.14 | cr2 | and you can't force mtype on the ramloader. |
| 20:52.28 | cr2 | hm. yes, you can, but then it should be recompiled. |
| 20:52.47 | cr2 | i need the hermes zimage. |
| 20:53.02 | Hymie | yes, it does say to me "undefined mtype" |
| 20:53.07 | Hymie | when I run it |
| 20:54.20 | cr2 | Hymie: compiling the kernel. |
| 20:54.25 | kiozen | cr2: tell me if you want some code |
| 20:54.47 | Hymie | cr2: I think this is just a plot to get my list of redhead numbers |
| 20:55.32 | cr2 | Hymie: this is a dialer app. it'll boot and call the 0900- numbers. |
| 20:56.04 | Hymie | hehe |
| 20:56.33 | cr2 | compiled. |
| 20:56.45 | cr2 | not need to change mtype and pack the .exe |
| 20:58.01 | cr2 | what's the hermes mtype ... |
| 20:58.48 | cr2 | #define MACH_TYPE_HTCHERMES 1213 |
| 20:58.51 | cr2 | very simple |
| 20:59.32 | BabelO | cr2: yes, Aveyron + bouche du rhone ;) |
| 21:00.07 | Hymie | rhone? |
| 21:00.19 | Hymie | phone? |
| 21:01.02 | BabelO | Hymie: no sorry , i joke... it is to franch state |
| 21:01.09 | BabelO | bad keyboard :( |
| 21:01.18 | Hymie | franch? ;) |
| 21:01.20 | Hymie | ok |
| 21:01.22 | Hymie | hehe |
| 21:01.25 | BabelO | s/franch state/french state/ |
| 21:01.36 | Hymie | so, it's rhine? |
| 21:01.39 | Hymie | the mouth of the rhine? |
| 21:01.40 | BabelO | Hymie: yes, "fromage qui pue" :) |
| 21:01.49 | Hymie | cheese? |
| 21:01.54 | Hymie | stinky cheese? |
| 21:01.58 | BabelO | yes ;) |
| 21:02.16 | cr2 | BabelO: that's what you drink now ? |
| 21:02.32 | Hymie | picking |
| 21:02.43 | BabelO | cr2: nothing |
| 21:02.56 | Hymie | BabelO: I suggest for your new drink you use Dr. Pepper |
| 21:03.04 | Hymie | BabelO: much joy will come to you from this... |
| 21:04.01 | cr2 | Hymie: http://jornada820.sf.net/files/haret |
| 21:05.36 | kiozen | Dr. Pepper? yuck :P! ;) |
| 21:05.43 | Hymie | !!!!!! |
| 21:05.56 | Hymie | segfault |
| 21:05.58 | Hymie | but I have display |
| 21:06.03 | goxboxlive | cr2: i have written a HOWTO. Now, go ahead and flash: http://www.linuxtogo.org/~goxboxlive/A780/bootloader/HOWTO_FLASH_A780.TXT |
| 21:06.08 | Hymie | and it booted maybe 100-200 lines |
| 21:06.20 | BabelO | kiozen: did you work also with openstreetmap project ? doing some maps ? |
| 21:06.35 | Hymie | mmc |
| 21:06.49 | kiozen | no, my realtion ship to OSM is _very_ special |
| 21:06.52 | Hymie | segfault in mmc |
| 21:07.36 | Hymie | cr2: tell me how much info you want |
| 21:07.36 | cr2 | Hymie: not bad. |
| 21:07.36 | Hymie | I can type it all if you want |
| 21:07.54 | cr2 | Hymie: we need to check it with g500. |
| 21:08.05 | cr2 | g500 has working mmc. |
| 21:08.59 | cr2 | hm. if Kevin added the cpld driver, and it's in a dirfferent location, that we may crash. |
| 21:09.04 | BabelO | kiozen: i try to make my town map, cr2 show me how ... but yesturday i think policeman say " he is crazy" because lot of road around my home are only one way :) |
| 21:09.07 | cr2 | i need to check the treo map. |
| 21:09.22 | kiozen | lol |
| 21:09.57 | cr2 | kiozen: but München is not bad in OSM. |
| 21:09.58 | kiozen | my intrest is more in hiking and finding places like caves, ancient graves and stuff. No roads ;) |
| 21:10.20 | kiozen | sure but Ratisbon is still bad |
| 21:10.28 | cr2 | ok. |
| 21:10.53 | cr2 | i've uploaded all the tracks i had. |
| 21:11.02 | Hymie | kiozen: come to my country.. you can find land no person ever stood on before, if you want! |
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| 21:11.11 | cr2 | some nice around Davos too. |
| 21:11.26 | cr2 | Hymie: the vector maps in Canada are free. |
| 21:11.34 | cr2 | unlike here ;) |
| 21:11.47 | Hymie | cr2: ? ;) |
| 21:12.05 | kiozen | :) Yes Canada is on the list. Got some friends there |
| 21:12.30 | Hymie | kiozen: there are still people living in the wild here |
| 21:12.47 | cr2 | http://www.geobase.ca/geobase/fr/index.html |
| 21:12.52 | BabelO | come in france... lot of woods here ;) |
| 21:13.07 | kiozen | Well you can live in the wild in Bavaria, too - ok local joke :) |
| 21:13.28 | Hymie | cr2: cool ;) |
| 21:13.57 | kiozen | BabelO: have done a lot with my parents. Can tell you some funny stories looking fro menhires |
| 21:14.42 | BabelO | ah menhires, this word is taling to me :) |
| 21:15.31 | kiozen | just like caves - no not really |
| 21:17.50 | BabelO | kiozen: i use this for my software welcome page ;) http://www.service.uni-vechta.de/studenten/forward/tux-viking.png |
| 21:18.21 | kiozen | uuugh nose hair :) |
| 21:18.41 | BabelO | i was looking for a nice logo to show for a messenger application, but found nothing |
| 21:19.03 | cr2 | Hymie: yes, it's better to fix the code for treo by creating a new subdir. |
| 21:20.43 | kiozen | I wish German officials would have same common sense like Canadians |
| 21:21.26 | kiozen | They charge you 100.-€ per state for raster maps |
| 21:21.26 | cr2 | // Location of the egpio chip in physical ram. |
| 21:21.26 | cr2 | enum { EGPIO_BASE = 0x08000000 }; |
| 21:22.03 | Hymie | kiozen: don't worry, I'm sure that if we have common sense there, we have silly sense elsewhere ;) |
| 21:22.09 | Hymie | cr2: ? |
| 21:22.38 | cr2 | Hymie: it's in the hermes source. i need to check the treo. |
| 21:22.53 | cr2 | if it's not there, you may crash. |
| 21:23.02 | Hymie | ah |
| 21:23.59 | cr2 | ah, this one is missing probably. |
| 21:24.02 | cr2 | s3c_device_sdi.dev.platform_data = &rx1950_mmc_cfg; |
| 21:24.29 | cr2 | Hymie: i'll try to fix it. |
| 21:25.50 | Hymie | cr2: if it helps at all, I took a picture of the segfault ;) |
| 21:25.55 | cr2 | hmm. it needs .gpio_detect and power. |
| 21:25.57 | Hymie | cr2: you can sorta read it |
| 21:25.59 | cr2 | ok :) |
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| 21:30.46 | Hymie | http://www.handhelds.org/hypermail/opie/current/12202.html |
| 21:30.51 | Hymie | I don't know wtf though |
| 21:31.39 | pH5 | f'ing great, the checksum command is in the herald bootloader, and it even calculates the checksum correctly. |
| 21:31.45 | pH5 | only the printf was removed from the build |
| 21:33.06 | cr2 | Hymie: recompiling. |
| 21:34.26 | BabelO | cr2: http://www.openhandsetalliance.com/android_overview.html |
| 21:34.35 | BabelO | cr2: from qtopia channel ;) |
| 21:36.43 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:36.48 | cr2 | is it java ? |
| 21:37.19 | cr2 | Hymie: need some more fixes to the source. |
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| 21:39.57 | cr2 | hehe. the mmc/sdio stuff is so broken in hh.org now, i'll learn how to fix it soon ;) |
| 21:40.28 | Hymie | cr2: did you see the message above? |
| 21:40.45 | Hymie | cr2: someone claims they have a booting kernel, I wonder if they did your work for you with the sdio? |
| 21:42.27 | kiozen | bbl |
| 21:42.29 | cr2 | Hymie: i'm looking. |
| 21:42.50 | cr2 | Hymie: i'm actually fixing the hermes code. |
| 21:43.52 | cr2 | http://hackndev.com/node/33 |
| 21:44.22 | Hymie | hum, weird |
| 21:44.29 | Hymie | I don't know anything about thge 650 |
| 21:44.58 | Hymie | hmm |
| 21:45.02 | Hymie | it's a palmos phone |
| 21:45.03 | Hymie | weird |
| 21:45.07 | cr2 | 650 is pxa ? |
| 21:45.19 | Hymie | if pxa = palmos, yes |
| 21:45.35 | Hymie | I have a palm 600 here |
| 21:46.03 | Hymie | but this was not made by htc |
| 21:46.04 | Hymie | this phone |
| 21:46.17 | cr2 | i think so |
| 21:46.19 | Hymie | at least, I did not hear this ever |
| 21:46.24 | cr2 | afair it's also htc |
| 21:46.30 | Hymie | really? |
| 21:46.38 | pH5 | if in doubt, assume it's htc |
| 21:46.40 | Hymie | they had real production problems with the 600 |
| 21:46.47 | Hymie | then did something new for the 650 |
| 21:46.49 | Hymie | so maybe I guess |
| 21:46.59 | Hymie | I mean |
| 21:47.02 | Hymie | thge 600 weas HORRIBLE |
| 21:47.02 | Hymie | heh |
| 21:47.10 | Hymie | I had *four* units exchanged |
| 21:47.12 | Hymie | four! |
| 21:47.15 | cr2 | http://www.shadowmite.com/wiki/index.php/The_Treo_650_Bootloader |
| 21:47.17 | Hymie | but I heard the 650 was much netter |
| 21:47.37 | cr2 | looks like htc to me ;) |
| 21:47.55 | Hymie | yeah |
| 21:47.56 | Hymie | for sure |
| 21:50.04 | cr2 | Hymie: try again. |
| 21:50.17 | cr2 | i need to check it on hermes too. |
| 21:51.18 | Hymie | sec |
| 21:53.36 | Hymie | looks like same error |
| 21:53.57 | cr2 | i'll check on hermes |
| 21:54.17 | cr2 | it has bigger screen :) |
| 21:54.39 | Hymie | did you update the file on the site? the name did not change, and I didn't notice if the date did.. but the size was identical |
| 21:54.49 | Hymie | diff says they are different though |
| 21:55.07 | cr2 | yes. |
| 21:58.48 | cr2 | Hymie: it works on hermes |
| 21:58.56 | cr2 | i need to check CPLD too. |
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| 21:59.58 | cr2 | hm. what was the hermes telnet address ? |
| 22:00.13 | Hymie | ? |
| 22:00.30 | Hymie | I think haret was 9999, but it says when you run it |
| 22:00.49 | cr2 | no. in linux. |
| 22:00.59 | Hymie | I don't know :( |
| 22:01.48 | cr2 | 0.206 |
| 22:02.41 | Hymie | hey, I have a new photo for you, this one is very clear |
| 22:02.47 | cr2 | S3C24XX NAND Driver, (c) 2004 Simtec Electronics |
| 22:02.48 | cr2 | s3c2410_udc: debugfs dir creation failed ffffffed |
| 22:02.48 | cr2 | s3c2440-usbgadget s3c2440-usbgadget: S3C2440: increasing FIFO to 128 bytes |
| 22:03.12 | cr2 | mmci-s3c2410: probe: mapped sdi_base=c5000000 irq=37 irq_cd=18 |
| 22:03.13 | cr2 | mmci-s3c2410: initialisation done. |
| 22:03.24 | cr2 | lol |
| 22:03.33 | cr2 | s3c2410-rtc s3c2410-rtc: setting the system clock to 2027-03-01 09:30:10 (1803893410) |
| 22:04.15 | cr2 | S3C244X: core 399.642 MHz, memory 99.910 MHz, peripheral 49.955 MHz |
| 22:04.15 | cr2 | S3C24XX Clocks, (c) 2004 Simtec Electronics |
| 22:04.15 | cr2 | CLOCK: Slow mode (2.116 MHz), fast, MPLL on, UPLL on |
| 22:06.15 | cr2 | ok. looks like a bug in the sd host. |
| 22:06.46 | cr2 | Hymie: i'll disable SD |
| 22:07.55 | cr2 | + /* please comment MMC_CAP_MULTIWRITE in drivers/mmc/s3c2440mci.c avoid kernel hang |
| 22:07.55 | cr2 | + * and set mmc->max_blk_size = 512 instead of 64 in drivers/mmc/s3c2440mci.c |
| 22:07.55 | cr2 | + * othewise we have kernel BUG() in drivers/mmc/mmc.c with ext2 fs |
| 22:07.59 | cr2 | ??? |
| 22:09.23 | cr2 | i can try. |
| 22:12.14 | cr2 | Hymie: try again. |
| 22:12.22 | cr2 | if it'll oops, i'l disable SD |
| 22:14.00 | cr2 | Hymie: but you need a lot of gpio tracing before it will work as expected. |
| 22:14.41 | Hymie | sorry, was putting pants in the washing machine ;) |
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| 22:15.42 | cr2 | lol |
| 22:15.47 | cr2 | get the new version |
| 22:16.06 | Hymie | sync |
| 22:16.07 | Hymie | er |
| 22:17.07 | Hymie | hmm |
| 22:17.10 | Hymie | no segfault |
| 22:17.11 | Hymie | but |
| 22:17.13 | Hymie | it just sits there |
| 22:17.27 | Hymie | I think it booted ok |
| 22:17.36 | Hymie | it says the same "setting the system clock to 2027..." |
| 22:17.40 | cr2 | yes. |
| 22:17.48 | cr2 | ok, coonect the USB cable |
| 22:17.56 | Hymie | sec |
| 22:18.01 | cr2 | ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.200 |
| 22:18.11 | cr2 | telnet 192.168.0.206 |
| 22:18.52 | Hymie | busybox joy! |
| 22:18.59 | cr2 | :) |
| 22:19.05 | cr2 | pastebin dmesg |
| 22:19.13 | Hymie | you want access? |
| 22:19.27 | Hymie | I can setup iptables NAT forwarding... |
| 22:19.29 | Hymie | take 2 minutes |
| 22:19.42 | cr2 | we need to do the s3c gpios right, and the cpld gpios. |
| 22:19.49 | Hymie | sec, phone |
| 22:19.51 | cr2 | i guess the SD will work |
| 22:19.57 | cr2 | woohoo. |
| 22:20.10 | cr2 | then fix the spi kbd and the ADC ts. |
| 22:20.14 | cr2 | load opie2 |
| 22:20.17 | Hymie | giveme 2 minutes |
| 22:20.23 | cr2 | post the screenshots :) |
| 22:20.40 | cr2 | just dreaming ;) |
| 22:21.03 | cr2 | linux rndis confuses the hell out of wince5. |
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| 22:22.30 | Hymie | almost off phone |
| 22:23.51 | Hymie | sorry cr2 |
| 22:24.02 | Hymie | was my parents calling, they just drove 5000km to florida, I wanted to make sure they were ok |
| 22:24.08 | Hymie | they're getting a little old |
| 22:24.10 | Hymie | ok |
| 22:24.14 | Hymie | setting up iptables |
| 22:27.18 | cr2 | yes, the mmu map is the same as on hermes |
| 22:27.24 | cr2 | good. |
| 22:28.02 | cr2 | so you can use the same scripts. |
| 22:28.05 | cr2 | ok. |
| 22:28.54 | cr2 | mmc0: host does not support reading read-only switch. assuming write-enable. |
| 22:28.54 | cr2 | mmcblk0: mmc0:b368 SD 1960448KiB |
| 22:28.54 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:29.05 | cr2 | 2Gig SD card ? |
| 22:29.10 | Hymie | yup! |
| 22:29.14 | cr2 | with 1 partiton. |
| 22:29.18 | Hymie | yup |
| 22:29.28 | cr2 | kicks ass. |
| 22:29.39 | cr2 | i've told you it's easier than hermes ;) |
| 22:29.48 | Hymie | I wanted to place the wikipedia there, but tomeraider sucks donkey ass |
| 22:29.53 | Hymie | yes, and also your magic touch helped! |
| 22:30.06 | cr2 | btw, it may be interesting to check the msm7x00 with the same driver. |
| 22:30.35 | cr2 | aah. it's smart. |
| 22:30.38 | cr2 | CPU S3C2442 (id 0x32440aaa) |
| 22:30.38 | cr2 | S3C244X: core 296.345 MHz, memory 98.781 MHz, peripheral 49.390 MHz |
| 22:30.38 | cr2 | S3C24XX Clocks, (c) 2004 Simtec Electronics |
| 22:30.38 | cr2 | CLOCK: Slow mode (2.116 MHz), fast, MPLL on, UPLL on |
| 22:30.48 | cr2 | reuses the wince clock config. |
| 22:31.33 | cr2 | we'll fix the rtc, it's a non-issue now. |
| 22:31.45 | cr2 | trying to mount your SD. |
| 22:33.04 | Hymie | ah, no /proc |
| 22:33.38 | cr2 | heh. no device nodes in /dev |
| 22:33.46 | Hymie | mount -o proc /proc |
| 22:33.46 | Hymie | mount: Can't find /proc in /etc/fstab |
| 22:33.47 | Hymie | : Success |
| 22:33.47 | Hymie | mount: Mounting /proc on (null) failed: Success |
| 22:33.48 | cr2 | what was the major/minor ? |
| 22:34.06 | Hymie | for that, I don't know... hmm |
| 22:34.09 | cr2 | mkdir /proc |
| 22:34.23 | Hymie | I mounted it |
| 22:34.25 | Hymie | it's there now |
| 22:34.59 | cr2 | lol |
| 22:35.02 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:35.02 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:35.02 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:35.02 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:35.31 | Hymie | 2 are me |
| 22:35.56 | cr2 | i think major is 254 |
| 22:36.05 | cr2 | BabelO: are you sleeping ? |
| 22:36.48 | cr2 | >> brw-rw---- 1 root hal 254, 0 2005-11-06 18:00 /dev/mmcblk0 |
| 22:36.49 | cr2 | >> brw-rw---- 1 root hal 254, 1 2005-11-06 18:00 /dev/mmcblk0p1 |
| 22:37.37 | Hymie | yes |
| 22:37.40 | Hymie | mounted on /it |
| 22:37.42 | BabelO | cr2: noooo, just cooking ;) |
| 22:37.50 | Hymie | yup! |
| 22:37.51 | Hymie | that's it |
| 22:37.56 | Hymie | it's ok |
| 22:38.07 | Hymie | hey |
| 22:38.07 | Hymie | again |
| 22:38.12 | Hymie | don't take my book of redheads! |
| 22:38.17 | Hymie | they are mine! |
| 22:38.21 | cr2 | heh. |
| 22:38.27 | cr2 | have you mounted it ? |
| 22:38.29 | Hymie | yeah |
| 22:38.33 | cr2 | it's a bit slow for me. |
| 22:38.33 | Hymie | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:39.16 | cr2 | VFS: Can't find an ext2 filesystem on dev mmcblk0. |
| 22:39.17 | cr2 | FAT: bogus number of reserved sectors |
| 22:39.17 | cr2 | VFS: Can't find a valid FAT filesystem on dev mmcblk0. |
| 22:39.17 | cr2 | VFS: Can't find an ext2 filesystem on dev mmcblk0p1. |
| 22:39.18 | cr2 | ok. |
| 22:39.24 | cr2 | cool |
| 22:39.35 | cr2 | so we need to trace and fix the gpios. |
| 22:39.49 | cr2 | the CPLD is at the same place as on hermes |
| 22:40.06 | Hymie | well, we know usb works, some part of screen |
| 22:40.12 | Hymie | mmc works |
| 22:40.17 | cr2 | well, actually you can format SD and install angstrom |
| 22:40.36 | cr2 | with ts the gui is not very nice ;) |
| 22:40.37 | Hymie | ok, I have to back that up first |
| 22:40.47 | cr2 | just a note. |
| 22:40.58 | BabelO | cr2: ? |
| 22:41.17 | cr2 | i think g500 must have ts on s3c adc |
| 22:41.37 | Hymie | cr2: you want to use this more right now, or should I disconnect, back this up, and put this angstrom on now? |
| 22:41.42 | cr2 | BabelO: booted on htc chetaah, aka palm treo 750 :) |
| 22:41.47 | cr2 | even SD can be mounted. |
| 22:42.03 | cr2 | Hymie: disconnect |
| 22:42.23 | cr2 | good. |
| 22:42.36 | cr2 | that means i'm really pressed to make the ATI SD |
| 22:42.57 | cr2 | then we can develop hermes/trinity in parallel. |
| 22:43.00 | BabelO | cr2: cool :) what is cpu on treo ? |
| 22:43.16 | cr2 | Hymie: btw, can you try to run qtopia4 ? |
| 22:43.30 | cr2 | make a screenshot and post it to the same ML. |
| 22:43.44 | cr2 | other people may help us to develop. |
| 22:43.57 | cr2 | BabelO: it's like hermes, s3c2442 |
| 22:44.20 | BabelO | cr2: and where is sd ? |
| 22:44.21 | cr2 | looks identical, but they don't use ATI SD ;) |
| 22:44.30 | cr2 | on S3CSDI |
| 22:44.46 | cr2 | because theere is no wifi ;) |
| 22:44.52 | cr2 | Hymie: what about gps ? |
| 22:45.15 | cr2 | the wince registry gives braindead hints , btw |
| 22:45.35 | cr2 | that IR and AT CMD are on uart2 ;-) |
| 22:45.53 | cr2 | the BT is on uart0 |
| 22:46.01 | cr2 | and it's the same brf6150 |
| 22:46.15 | cr2 | if we will trace the power gpios, then it'll just work. |
| 22:46.45 | cr2 | and with the s3c-ohci the phone should look like the universal |
| 22:46.59 | cr2 | only need to configure the OHCI |
| 22:56.34 | cr2 | Hymie: i've sent an e-mail to the ML poster about Treo. |
| 22:56.42 | BabelO | cr2: so linux is really generic kernel ;) i don't know that sd driver for s3c was here |
| 22:57.22 | cr2 | BabelO: if people write good portable code, then yes :) |
| 22:57.41 | cr2 | asic1_mmc is a complete fsckup. |
| 22:57.54 | cr2 | but it's written at CPQ :) |
| 22:58.08 | cr2 | i guess the wince code is written in the same way ;) |
| 22:58.19 | cr2 | because it was the ported wince code. |
| 23:00.50 | cr2 | BabelO: it's the same for hima/ba |
| 23:01.04 | cr2 | BabelO: the good ba code will run on hima too :) |
| 23:01.56 | BabelO | cr2: good, i don't know ;) once i send qtopia project, will be good if we can fix ba keyboard ds1wm and touchscreen |
| 23:02.05 | BabelO | it is little bug but bug are here |
| 23:03.15 | cr2 | ok. |
| 23:04.13 | cr2 | i see in the g500 code that there is |
| 23:04.16 | cr2 | #ifdef TOUCHSCREEN_S3C2410_ALT |
| 23:04.41 | cr2 | maybe TS is also trivial after all ;) |
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| 23:06.37 | cr2 | ./configs/htchermes_defconfig:CONFIG_TOUCHSCREEN_S3C2410=y |
| 23:06.39 | cr2 | hmm. |
| 23:07.24 | cr2 | but ./configs/rx1950_defconfig:CONFIG_TOUCHSCREEN_S3C2410_ALT=y |
| 23:07.42 | cr2 | maybe i'd try it. |
| 23:12.25 | BabelO | :) funny if it works |
| 23:13.21 | cr2 | BabelO: you should follow my example, and stop distributing haret+zimage :) |
| 23:14.20 | BabelO | yes, yes agree, i need to do it one time to test and also fix my image :( |
| 23:14.50 | cr2 | Hymie: i've uploaded the version with the TS driver. |
| 23:15.07 | cr2 | BabelO: the last step is to add the modules to initramfs. |
| 23:15.27 | cr2 | then it'll be robust, and we will save a lot of explanations here. |
| 23:16.58 | BabelO | cr2: i already do initramfs ;) but with a minimal angstroim distrib |
| 23:17.17 | cr2 | initrd. |
| 23:19.09 | cr2 | BabelO: input: s3c2410 TouchScreen as /class/input/input0 |
| 23:19.13 | cr2 | hehe. |
| 23:19.17 | cr2 | nothing in /dev |
| 23:20.00 | BabelO | rohhh |
| 23:20.08 | cr2 | it became dog slow |
| 23:20.34 | BabelO | i ve same line on artemis ;) but don't know if it works |
| 23:22.26 | cr2 | /sys/class/input/input0/event0 # cat dev |
| 23:22.27 | cr2 | 13:64 |
| 23:23.03 | cr2 | wow |
| 23:23.18 | cr2 | mknod /dev/foobar c 13 64 |
| 23:23.27 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:23.34 | cr2 | 0000000 4e6c 6b85 fae0 0003 0003 0000 019d 0000 |
| 23:23.34 | cr2 | 0000010 4e6c 6b85 faf5 0003 0003 0001 020d 0000 |
| 23:23.34 | cr2 | 0000020 4e6c 6b85 fafa 0003 0001 014a 0001 0000 |
| 23:23.34 | cr2 | 0000030 4e6c 6b85 fafc 0003 0003 0018 0001 0000 |
| 23:23.42 | cr2 | when i touch the screen :) |
| 23:24.01 | cr2 | on hermes. |
| 23:24.51 | cr2 | ok, now how do i configure ohci ;) |
| 23:25.48 | BabelO | lol keep something for this winter |
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| 23:28.06 | cr2 | BabelO: roadmap :) |
| 23:28.39 | Hymie | bah |
| 23:28.47 | Hymie | Message from syslogd@be at Mon Nov 5 17:42:33 2007 ... |
| 23:28.49 | Hymie | be kernel: general protection fault: 0000 [1] SM |
| 23:28.51 | Hymie | I disconnected the treo and had a segfault |
| 23:28.57 | Hymie | it killed my keyboard (weird, killed the interrupt f or my ps2 keyboard) |
| 23:28.59 | Hymie | then, I had a #)$(@)($@#) fsck after 200 days of uptime on this box :/ |
| 23:29.41 | cr2 | lol |
| 23:29.57 | cr2 | linux sucks :) |
| 23:30.04 | Hymie | so, I saw the fsck would take 20 minutes to finish |
| 23:30.13 | Hymie | and went and bought a new 2GB mini sd |
| 23:30.20 | Hymie | so, I can keep both easily swappable |
| 23:30.27 | cr2 | Hymie: i get some data from the touchscreen |
| 23:30.29 | Hymie | man, so cheap! only $35 bucks |
| 23:30.36 | cr2 | yeah. |
| 23:30.43 | cr2 | <4GB are cheap |
| 23:31.03 | Hymie | cr2: so, what should I do next, do you think? |
| 23:32.13 | cr2 | you need the kernel.exe with the ramdisk |
| 23:32.21 | cr2 | format SD, install opie2 |
| 23:32.26 | cr2 | boot. |
| 23:32.31 | cr2 | make a screenshot :) |
| 23:32.48 | cr2 | well, there are many things that can be done. |
| 23:32.55 | Hymie | ok, any suggestions for opie2? Should I put swap on the sd card too, heh? |
| 23:33.13 | cr2 | run without swap |
| 23:33.29 | Hymie | !!! hearsy! |
| 23:34.52 | Hymie | hmm, for now I will just use 1GB |
| 23:35.13 | Hymie | ah, to hell with it |
| 23:35.17 | Hymie | the whole 2GB! |
| 23:36.09 | Hymie | hmm |
| 23:36.17 | Hymie | I see many bits of info about opie2 |
| 23:37.02 | Hymie | http://www.linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcblueangel/x11-GPE/ ? GPE though |
| 23:37.07 | cr2 | Hymie: get the tar.bz2 for the universal |
| 23:37.36 | cr2 | http://www.linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcuniversal/images/O.P.I.E-II/ |
| 23:37.44 | cr2 | you don't need the .cab |
| 23:37.47 | cr2 | obviously |
| 23:38.12 | cr2 | heh. it's for vga |
| 23:38.22 | Hymie | hmm, 240x240 here |
| 23:38.23 | cr2 | and you have 240x240 |
| 23:38.26 | Hymie | yeah |
| 23:38.32 | Hymie | but, remember that message I posted? |
| 23:38.34 | cr2 | can be a challenge. |
| 23:38.36 | Hymie | someone made some changes for my screen |
| 23:38.40 | Hymie | to support 750 |
| 23:38.41 | Hymie | in opie |
| 23:38.50 | cr2 | yes, then bash the opie devs |
| 23:38.57 | cr2 | post to the ML, and so on. |
| 23:39.06 | cr2 | but don#t expect the phone app for opie |
| 23:39.16 | cr2 | it'll be for opi2 |
| 23:39.19 | Hymie | oh, right... that would be wrong |
| 23:39.23 | Hymie | opi2? |
| 23:39.24 | cr2 | already works on the uni. |
| 23:39.24 | Hymie | hmm |
| 23:39.27 | Hymie | cool |
| 23:39.33 | cr2 | qtopia4 |
| 23:39.41 | cr2 | to be politically correct ;) |
| 23:40.15 | Hymie | copying |
| 23:42.51 | Hymie | cr2: where did you put your exe again, I lost your url |
| 23:42.51 | cr2 | Hymie: you obviously need a new theme for 240x240 |
| 23:42.52 | goxboxlive | Hymie: edit qpe.conf in /etc/init.d and and set 240x240 instead of 640x480. Also remeber to change to the correc machine name. Or could add your machine to it instead with the righ values |
| 23:43.05 | goxboxlive | Qtopia is scaleable. |
| 23:43.09 | Hymie | cool! |
| 23:43.14 | cr2 | http://jornada820.sf.net/files/haret |
| 23:43.24 | cr2 | goxboxlive: one more qualcomm user. |
| 23:43.34 | goxboxlive | :-) |
| 23:43.45 | cr2 | goxboxlive: if i'll fix the ATI SD issue, then you'll get hermes/trinity too :) |
| 23:43.54 | cr2 | but they are 240x320 |
| 23:44.10 | goxboxlive | cr2: i am on strike until you get back to work on universal again :-) |
| 23:44.37 | cr2 | goxboxlive: you are competing with google-java now :) |
| 23:44.46 | cr2 | goxboxlive: lol |
| 23:44.58 | cr2 | goxboxlive: i'll look into the ak4641 issues. |
| 23:45.02 | goxboxlive | :-) |
| 23:45.05 | cr2 | it's needed to man phones. |
| 23:45.13 | goxboxlive | yes |
| 23:45.26 | BabelO | goxboxlive: Hymie also size mm |
| 23:45.32 | cr2 | and i need to look closer at the suspending asic3 properly |
| 23:45.45 | cr2 | and devices like bt |
| 23:46.13 | cr2 | goxboxlive: and we may recover the .16 acx100 version too with obvious bugfixes |
| 23:46.19 | goxboxlive | BabelO: yes of course, i forgot |
| 23:46.34 | goxboxlive | yes that would be great. |
| 23:47.50 | cr2 | BabelO: if we will write accelfb-ATI for qtopia, than's going to be fast :)) |
| 23:47.53 | goxboxlive | ALso power since that's the most important now. That's the reason i am not using universal with qtopia as my daily phone now. Since i have to charge it every two hours,. We also need resume/suspend the phone |
| 23:48.06 | cr2 | goxboxlive: yes, i agree. |
| 23:48.16 | cr2 | it does not suspend/resume ? |
| 23:48.28 | BabelO | cr2: i ll like to learn all related to fb driver accel, how they works |
| 23:48.29 | Hymie | etc# find . | grep qpe.conf |
| 23:48.34 | Hymie | nada :( |
| 23:48.48 | BabelO | Hymie: /opt/Qtopia |
| 23:48.51 | cr2 | BabelO: i'm researching the lowlevel ATI pll clock stuff. |
| 23:48.52 | Hymie | ah, ok |
| 23:49.14 | goxboxlive | With Qtopia i think we also miss some resume/suspend code for the phone part, but also in gsmd it doesnt resume on incoming call. |
| 23:49.38 | cr2 | BabelO: you'll need to check the w100 X11 patches, and the disassembly stuff in the cacko rom. |
| 23:49.42 | Hymie | hmm |
| 23:49.45 | goxboxlive | Hymie: Sory |
| 23:49.58 | Hymie | no /opt/Qtopia/init.d/qpe.conf.. I found a qpe.conf, but it has no 640x480 in it |
| 23:50.04 | goxboxlive | Hymie: not qpe.conf, qpe.sh |
| 23:50.15 | Hymie | sec |
| 23:50.18 | cr2 | goxboxlive: we need to trace the gpios through suspend/resume cycle. Kevin2 said it should work. |
| 23:50.31 | goxboxlive | cr2: ok good. |
| 23:50.37 | Hymie | goxboxlive: doesn't exist |
| 23:50.49 | Hymie | find . | grep qpe.sh |
| 23:50.49 | Hymie | ./opt/Qtopia/help/html/qpe-shutdowndialog.html |
| 23:50.56 | cr2 | goxboxlive: because we don't really suspend the phone now in any way. |
| 23:50.57 | Hymie | nothing but that matches |
| 23:51.04 | goxboxlive | Hymie: Maybe i named it OPIEII or something. It's located in /etc/init.d/ |
| 23:51.17 | Hymie | ah, that file |
| 23:51.18 | Hymie | sec |
| 23:51.48 | Hymie | fund the file, but no 640 in it |
| 23:52.01 | Hymie | vi O.P.I.E-II |
| 23:52.06 | goxboxlive | Hymie: the qwssize part is the physical size of your screen. Remember t measure your screen, and put in your values |
| 23:52.09 | BabelO | hey windows office computer is down ;) tomorrow blue screen |
| 23:52.32 | goxboxlive | it should content several sections for diffrents devices |
| 23:52.47 | Hymie | /mnt/c# find . -exec grep qwssize {} \; |
| 23:52.52 | goxboxlive | man i hate moving. Our appartment look like a mess. |
| 23:53.47 | cr2 | BabelO: just think about it. ati-accelfb + roadmap + tsdogs's raster tile patch. google takes a break now ;-) |
| 23:53.52 | BabelO | Hymie: export QWS_DISPLAY=LinuxFb:Transformed:mmWidth53:mmHeight71 |
| 23:54.07 | cr2 | BabelO: his LCD is square |
| 23:54.09 | BabelO | Hymie: and export QWS_SIZE=240x320 |
| 23:54.10 | goxboxlive | yes thats it |
| 23:54.24 | BabelO | cr2: yes i know just to help him to find the right line |
| 23:55.14 | goxboxlive | well back to packing. |
| 23:55.21 | cr2 | well, we need to do gps and suspend for n560 for kiozen. |
| 23:55.31 | cr2 | but that's going to be easy. |
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