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| 01:16.56 | PITABoy | anyone here (willing to talk) |
| 01:31.09 | PITABoy | I JUST TELNETED TO THE TITAN!!! |
| 01:33.13 | PITABoy | ok i think that I can get some gpios |
| 01:33.23 | PITABoy | i just turned on the lcd via telnet |
| 01:33.50 | PITABoy | and got the following dc=012E661 |
| 01:38.28 | PITABoy | hello |
| 01:38.41 | PITABoy | I am getting full memory dumps of the titan |
| 02:30.57 | paulproteus | PITABoy, Nice! |
| 02:31.11 | PITABoy | i also dumped some gpios i think |
| 02:31.38 | PITABoy | i was in telnet and typed dump gpio 3600 that means dump gpios for 1 hour |
| 02:32.12 | PITABoy | and i opened and closed the phone and presses every button on the keyboard but i'm not sure if it did anything |
| 02:32.33 | PITABoy | I think that i got more when i did the typing on the telnet keyboard |
| 02:32.59 | PITABoy | also this is weird I found it on the htc site it is titled "unlock phone" |
| 02:33.16 | PITABoy | http://www.htcwiki.com/page/HTC+P4000+and+Mogul+by+HTC |
| 02:33.22 | PITABoy | so what do you think |
| 02:33.50 | PITABoy | also paulproteus are you a developer if so what are your skills? and what phone do you have |
| 02:34.43 | paulproteus | PITABoy, I have a Magician and I can hack C and Python but I haven't done any OE dev yet. |
| 02:34.54 | PITABoy | cool |
| 02:35.17 | PITABoy | i cant program at all but I can put together simple bash scripts |
| 02:35.37 | PITABoy | and build a linux kernel If I know what to build into it |
| 02:36.22 | paulproteus | Cool. (-: |
| 02:37.31 | PITABoy | http://www.reviewzine.com/htc-mogul/ has some more hacks one is supposed to speed up the phone |
| 02:39.38 | PITABoy | you said that you have the magician right? |
| 02:39.46 | paulproteus | Yup. |
| 02:39.53 | PITABoy | do you have linux on it? |
| 02:39.58 | paulproteus | Yup, via SD card. |
| 02:40.03 | PITABoy | cool |
| 02:40.11 | paulproteus | I have to run for now though! |
| 02:40.30 | PITABoy | darn |
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| 11:21.32 | kiozen | hi |
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| 13:23.31 | BabelO | hi kiozen , pH5 |
| 13:24.57 | kiozen | morning :) |
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| 17:22.45 | PITABoy | :-( ... the company where I work is blocking all of my most used sites. :-( |
| 17:26.09 | PITABoy | I just found the holy grail... I will tell more in about 20 mins |
| 17:30.44 | PITABoy | just a little teaser before I tell you about the holy grail it has to do with the linux kernel |
| 17:38.53 | PITABoy | btw android (gphone OS) is or was based on linux |
| 17:40.16 | PITABoy | also if anyone is listening the msm7x00 chips are based on omap |
| 17:40.25 | PITABoy | now the good news |
| 17:41.25 | PITABoy | google has been working with "massive support" from qualcomm on a linux kernel for the msm7x00 chips and they seem to have pretty good support for th msm7200 |
| 17:41.41 | PITABoy | they call their patchset msm7k |
| 17:42.51 | PITABoy | their patches are for the vanilla kernel 2.16.23 and 2.16.24 |
| 17:46.36 | PITABoy | hello |
| 17:46.41 | PITABoy | cr2_ |
| 17:46.46 | PITABoy | anyone |
| 17:50.02 | dcordes_ | hey PITABoy |
| 17:50.49 | dcordes_ | where did you get that info? |
| 17:51.08 | dcordes_ | or do I have to sign up for holy crusade before you tell me :P = |
| 17:51.09 | dcordes_ | ? |
| 17:51.19 | PITABoy | lol |
| 17:51.25 | PITABoy | sign up first |
| 17:51.26 | PITABoy | jk |
| 17:51.33 | PITABoy | it is on google |
| 17:51.49 | PITABoy | they released this and only this |
| 17:51.59 | PITABoy | kindof weird but I love them for it |
| 17:52.01 | PITABoy | http://git.android.com/?p=linux-msm.git;a=summary |
| 17:52.30 | PITABoy | I'm trying to download git for windows right now (I'm working) |
| 17:52.32 | dcordes_ | 2.16.23 sounds like far far away in the future :D you mean 2.6.23/24 |
| 17:52.39 | PITABoy | yeah |
| 17:52.42 | PITABoy | my bad |
| 17:53.06 | PITABoy | the first kernel that I compiled was 2.6.16 and now 16 is stuck in my head |
| 17:53.37 | dcordes_ | :) |
| 17:53.56 | dcordes_ | I hope this will be of use for msm7200 |
| 17:54.09 | dcordes_ | if so I'll propably get tytn2 instead of tytn |
| 17:54.11 | PITABoy | it looks like that is where most of their work is |
| 17:54.23 | PITABoy | i have a msm7500 |
| 17:54.35 | PITABoy | the 7200 is all over in their code |
| 17:54.49 | PITABoy | I hope that It boots on the 7500 |
| 17:54.59 | PITABoy | kudos to google |
| 17:55.15 | PITABoy | give them credit for the code and me credit for the find |
| 17:55.20 | dcordes_ | we need one of the gurus to confirm it will be of use :D |
| 17:55.38 | PITABoy | I'm gonna download it asap incase google takes it down |
| 17:55.39 | dcordes_ | haha I will give you 2,50€ for pita delivery to my door |
| 17:56.48 | dcordes_ | man I'm really hungry |
| 17:56.48 | PITABoy | i just want some credit on the wikis |
| 17:56.52 | dcordes_ | need to hit the supermarket |
| 17:57.00 | PITABoy | where are you |
| 17:57.08 | dcordes_ | did you post it to the qualcom wiki page yet? |
| 17:57.09 | PITABoy | america? europe? |
| 17:57.15 | dcordes_ | we talked yesterday |
| 17:57.20 | PITABoy | no i havent found that one yet |
| 17:57.23 | dcordes_ | germany |
| 17:57.25 | PITABoy | oh |
| 17:57.29 | PITABoy | yeah I dont log |
| 17:57.43 | dcordes_ | always keep some log inside your brain ^^ |
| 17:57.44 | PITABoy | I am using a web irc now to get around the company firewall |
| 17:58.11 | PITABoy | are you currently running linux? |
| 17:58.21 | dcordes_ | yes |
| 17:58.24 | dcordes_ | noobuntu gutsy |
| 17:58.46 | PITABoy | cool |
| 17:58.56 | dcordes_ | what distros do you use? |
| 17:59.02 | PITABoy | is it really noobuntu or are you making fun of ubunti |
| 17:59.09 | dcordes_ | fun |
| 17:59.39 | PITABoy | i use gentoo and vlos (but mostly gentoo lately because the latest vlos release is like a year old |
| 17:59.44 | PITABoy | ) |
| 18:00.13 | PITABoy | btw google/android released this new kernel patches on the 8th aka 2 days ago |
| 18:02.46 | PITABoy | there is even a google group for these patches http://groups.google.com/group/linux-msm-kernel |
| 18:02.53 | PITABoy | where is the qualcomm wiki |
| 18:04.32 | dcordes_ | I hope one of the htc gods will drop in to feed us with info on your finding. |
| 18:04.59 | PITABoy | me too like cr2_ |
| 18:05.06 | PITABoy | cr2_ are you there |
| 18:05.12 | PITABoy | hello cr2_ |
| 18:05.19 | PITABoy | that should wake him up |
| 18:08.47 | dcordes_ | ouch |
| 18:08.51 | dcordes_ | see ya |
| 18:08.53 | dcordes_ | bbiab |
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| 18:12.25 | PITABoy | looks like they are trying to get the patches to be accepted into the mainstream kernel :-D |
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| 18:33.52 | cr2_ | PITABoy: hi. do you ever read the channel logs ? |
| 18:35.40 | cr2_ | hi BabelO |
| 18:35.48 | BabelO | hi cr2_ |
| 18:35.55 | cr2_ | BabelO: i have not found the Vpp |
| 18:36.09 | cr2_ | maybe we can try without. |
| 18:36.24 | BabelO | cr2_: :( do we have some comment from cp5 on old kernel about that ? |
| 18:36.26 | cr2_ | pH5: how did you find the Vpp ? |
| 18:36.38 | cr2_ | BabelO: i'll grep |
| 18:36.57 | cr2_ | but i don't have the full logs |
| 18:37.48 | cr2_ | <pH5> cr2: the vpp egpio seemed indeed to be correct. after unlocking the eraseblock I could write to it. |
| 18:38.03 | kiozen | http://irclog.iclem.net/?chan=htc-linux&msgonly=1 , but they badly miss a grep function |
| 18:38.44 | cr2_ | hi kiozen |
| 18:38.48 | kiozen | hi :) |
| 18:38.54 | BabelO | ~logs |
| 18:38.55 | apt | logs is probably apt/ibot/infobot/jbot/purl all log daily to http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz |
| 18:39.14 | BabelO | hi kiozen |
| 18:39.42 | kiozen | hi BabelO |
| 18:39.53 | BabelO | ~help |
| 18:40.08 | cr2_ | BabelO: i've looked at the pasic3 driver, and it has some hardcoded values from magician. |
| 18:40.44 | BabelO | cr2_: which one ? if it is ds1wm enable them after some trace according to pH5 it is the same |
| 18:41.06 | cr2_ | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=MagicianAIC3 |
| 18:41.30 | cr2_ | i don't have the values for magician |
| 18:43.37 | cr2_ | kiozen: n560 checks for some very funny things on resume. |
| 18:44.02 | kiozen | what things? |
| 18:44.09 | kiozen | 7 cups? |
| 18:44.44 | cr2_ | no. for some certain values at some certain RAM locations, and in the CPU registers. |
| 18:45.13 | cr2_ | so they should be saved at CPU suspend and restored at wakeup. |
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| 18:45.46 | kiozen | is that hardcoded or just wince? |
| 18:46.27 | cr2_ | it's the wince resume vector. |
| 18:47.14 | cr2_ | it can be reflashed with the wince tools, but is probably the most dangerous thing you can do :) |
| 18:47.40 | cr2_ | but we can work around it. |
| 18:48.32 | kiozen | if I get it right wince should stay on the device and linux boots via haret. |
| 18:48.51 | cr2_ | yes. |
| 18:49.36 | kiozen | so we have to prevent the device from booting wince while resuming |
| 18:51.08 | PITABoy | cr2_ no i dont read the logs why has someone already found this??? |
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| 18:54.20 | PITABoy | but I dont see anything about the google android kernel patches anywhere |
| 18:54.51 | cr2_ | PITABoy: we were talking with the guy from google yesterday on this channel ;) |
| 18:55.48 | cr2_ | kiozen: yes, with the right tricks we prevent wince from booting. it's just different tricks on many devices. |
| 18:57.32 | PITABoy | cool but i didnt see any mention of google android or msm anywhere in the log |
| 18:59.04 | PITABoy | so quick question will this new "google kernel" boot on msm7500 devices? |
| 19:01.25 | cr2_ | yes, but it's limited in its capabilities right now. |
| 19:01.38 | cr2_ | there is no touchscreen driver and no SD driver. |
| 19:02.05 | PITABoy | oh well at least it boots |
| 19:02.13 | cr2_ | and you need to init your LCD panel properly. so you need to know which panel you have first. |
| 19:02.13 | PITABoy | do you have a kernel config |
| 19:02.44 | PITABoy | i dont know where i read it but i think that it is a hitachi |
| 19:03.06 | cr2_ | get the kernel from the repository and compile it. |
| 19:03.11 | cr2_ | hm. with some patches. |
| 19:03.23 | cr2_ | hitachi is only one of the possible panels. |
| 19:03.47 | cr2_ | what do your ram dumps say ? |
| 19:04.05 | PITABoy | also a stupid noob question but what is so different about lcds wont any lcd driver with the same specs work |
| 19:04.18 | dcordes | re |
| 19:04.59 | PITABoy | idk do you know where in the dumps i should start looking for the lcd? |
| 19:06.42 | cr2_ | paneltype |
| 19:06.46 | cr2_ | Device panel is: PANEL_SAMSUNG_MDD |
| 19:06.47 | cr2_ | Device panel is: PANEL_SEID_MDDI |
| 19:06.47 | cr2_ | Device panel is: PANEL_SEID_RGB |
| 19:06.47 | cr2_ | Device panel is: PANEL_TOPPOLY |
| 19:06.47 | cr2_ | Device panel is: PANEL_HITACHI |
| 19:06.47 | cr2_ | Device panel is: PANEL_UNKNOWN |
| 19:06.49 | dcordes | cr2_: now that's good news on the qualcom |
| 19:06.56 | dcordes | I think I will get a tytnII now |
| 19:07.17 | cr2_ | HITACHI PANEL |
| 19:07.21 | cr2_ | 03/01/2007 00:00:35 [D :: Display] DetectLCM - HITACHI PANEL |
| 19:07.21 | cr2_ | 03/01/2007 00:00:35 [D :: TOUCHP] +TouchPanelPowerOff |
| 19:07.21 | cr2_ | 03/01/2007 00:00:35 [D :: TOUCHP] -TouchPanelPowerOff |
| 19:07.21 | cr2_ | [TP] 03/01/2007 00:00:35 [D :: TOUCHP] +TouchPanelPowerOn |
| 19:07.21 | cr2_ | [TP] 03/01/2007 00:00:35 [D :: TOUCHP] -TouchPanelPowerOn |
| 19:07.21 | cr2_ | +PANEL_HITACHCHI On |
| 19:07.31 | dcordes | :D |
| 19:07.37 | dcordes | have to go again |
| 19:07.45 | dcordes | have a good evening/day time whatever |
| 19:07.49 | cr2_ | dcordes: yes, but it's only the base CPU support. we need to do some work too. |
| 19:08.04 | cr2_ | thanks. |
| 19:08.17 | dcordes | of course. Will be able to help testing and OE related stuff. |
| 19:08.21 | PITABoy | so base CPU support what is the difference between that and full cpu support |
| 19:09.37 | cr2_ | PITABoy: google kernel is developed for a bit different CPU on some eval board. |
| 19:09.45 | kiozen | cr2_ do need anything else from me? (my nmi wants to shift task priority :) ) |
| 19:10.05 | cr2_ | they can't support all panels on the market. |
| 19:10.11 | PITABoy | true |
| 19:10.19 | pH5 | cr2_: I found the vpp gpio in the magician's bootloader sources, it was accessed by functions that I knew were somehow related to flash erasing/writing. |
| 19:10.21 | cr2_ | kiozen: have you tried to compile qtopia4 ? |
| 19:10.42 | cr2_ | pH5: ok. not so easy here ;) |
| 19:10.55 | kiozen | not yet, want to get the kernel running stable, first |
| 19:11.11 | cr2_ | kiozen: is it stable now ? |
| 19:11.39 | cr2_ | kiozen: i'm working mostly on suspend/resume and other drivers |
| 19:11.49 | PITABoy | well as soon as I get a running kernel I am probabally going with openmoko |
| 19:12.07 | cr2_ | but the keyboard/ts will stay as they are. |
| 19:12.17 | PITABoy | qtopia looks too much like the iphone i mean the iphone looks too much like qtopia |
| 19:12.29 | cr2_ | kiozen: i'll add the gps driver, so you can test it too. |
| 19:12.35 | kiozen | problems booting with haret, no wifi, no suspend, no keys... |
| 19:12.44 | cr2_ | kiozen: no keys ? |
| 19:13.09 | kiozen | I can press what I want no interaction |
| 19:13.31 | cr2_ | kiozen: in qtopia ? |
| 19:13.38 | kiozen | yes |
| 19:13.50 | kiozen | just touch screen |
| 19:14.10 | cr2_ | ok, i think it's a key mapping problem in qtopia. ask BabelO, he knows it better. |
| 19:14.30 | cr2_ | i guess that the kernel driver works, because it's a pxa27x_keyboard driver. |
| 19:14.43 | kiozen | ok |
| 19:15.07 | cr2_ | don't expect working wifi very soon. |
| 19:15.21 | cr2_ | but suspend/resume will work soon :) |
| 19:15.26 | BabelO | kiozen: if you get my qtopia image or look in /opt/qtopia/qt_plugins |
| 19:16.05 | kiozen | BabelO: link? |
| 19:16.21 | PITABoy | as long as the onscreen keyboard works in openmoko i dont need my slide out one |
| 19:16.43 | cr2_ | pH5: i've missing your pasic3 data in the list http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=MagicianAIC3 |
| 19:17.06 | cr2_ | pH5: there are some hardcoded values in the pasic3 driver. |
| 19:17.12 | kiozen | cr2_ hoped to use wifi to access the device, but usb is ok too |
| 19:18.18 | cr2_ | kiozen: our working acx100 wifi is memory mapped (and pcmcia, which is mostly the same), but not sdio. |
| 19:18.35 | cr2_ | we need a sdio capable kernel (.23-.24) first. |
| 19:18.55 | BabelO | kiozen: http://www.linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcblueangel/O.P.I.E-II/ |
| 19:19.18 | kiozen | thanks Babel= |
| 19:19.21 | kiozen | thanks Babel0 |
| 19:19.55 | BabelO | kiozen: you just need to edit /etc/init.d/qpe to fix your settings |
| 19:20.06 | kiozen | an annoying thing is booting via haret 4 of 5 tries fail. but let me summarize the problem later. |
| 19:20.09 | BabelO | and you have roadmap on it too;,) |
| 19:20.18 | kiozen | BabelO: great |
| 19:20.22 | BabelO | with gpsd |
| 19:20.41 | kiozen | ok my NMI initializes task shift, bbl |
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| 19:27.02 | goxboxlive | tes |
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| 19:28.22 | BabelO | apt goxboxlibe need a test message :) |
| 19:28.30 | BabelO | apt goxboxlive need a test message :) |
| 19:29.18 | goxboxlive | :-) once again i have setup my system on my laptop. I tried out kubuntu once again, but felt back to debian once more :-) |
| 19:29.39 | BabelO | goxboxlive: try suse |
| 19:30.47 | goxboxlive | BabelO: i tried it for several years ago. I am so familiar with the apt-get system now, so i think i hang with debian |
| 19:31.15 | BabelO | ~wtf iirc |
| 19:31.26 | goxboxlive | :-) |
| 19:31.26 | BabelO | cool :) |
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| 19:32.09 | goxboxlive | re |
| 19:32.31 | goxboxlive | now Xchat looks good :-) |
| 19:32.37 | BabelO | goxboxlive: now you can try helix with 4.3.0 |
| 19:32.51 | BabelO | but won't start on BA, i m looking for why |
| 19:33.06 | cr2_ | BabelO: how it the pxa flash partitioned on BA ? 256K bootloader + wince ? |
| 19:33.13 | goxboxlive | BabelO: so the atlas source is rekeased now? |
| 19:34.09 | BabelO | cr2_: i don't now, i set some partition on my patch, but they are bad, need to look at the wiki :( |
| 19:34.35 | cr2_ | goxboxlive: do you have a jffs2 rootfs image ? |
| 19:34.48 | goxboxlive | cr2_: no |
| 19:34.54 | cr2_ | goxboxlive: btw, do you startup usb by default now ? |
| 19:35.02 | cr2_ | ~wtf yaffs2 |
| 19:35.48 | goxboxlive | cr2_: have no idea. AT my local images yes, but the ones i upload i have no idea. Only Qtopia i think. Because that one i have to edit anyeway |
| 19:36.50 | goxboxlive | BabelO: where do i get the helix souces |
| 19:37.02 | goxboxlive | found it |
| 19:37.33 | BabelO | goxboxlive: it is ok you found the link ? |
| 19:38.05 | cr2_ | goxboxlive: that's bad. |
| 19:38.14 | goxboxlive | BabelO: no, it was dead, do you have it? |
| 19:38.21 | BabelO | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:38.38 | goxboxlive | thx |
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| 19:45.26 | goxboxlive | BabelO: i got it |
| 19:45.27 | BabelO | ah ok |
| 19:45.54 | BabelO | https://helix-client.helixcommunity.org/releases |
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| 19:56.27 | PITABoy | the mogul uses a samsong display |
| 19:58.00 | PITABoy | and hitachi |
| 19:58.09 | PITABoy | weird what is up with that? |
| 19:59.10 | PITABoy | well it says that it inits the hitachi display and nothing about init any other |
| 20:00.41 | PITABoy | darn with a 1.7Ghz machine it takes forever to search through 64mb of data |
| 20:02.55 | PITABoy | so when i build the kernel i'm going with hitachi and posibly samsong if i can build more than one without conflict |
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| 20:30.28 | PITABoy | does anyone have any ideas of what I should look for in a ram dump such as hardware names cr2_ already told me about the panel aka lcd any other stuff? |
| 20:31.06 | PITABoy | I know that all of the hardware is important but does anyone have any idea what string of text is around them from other pda linux adventures? |
| 20:55.13 | mxktmdude | hi PITABoy |
| 20:56.30 | mxktmdude | i have a msm7500 device as well, i was hoping to meet you in the channel one of these days lol ive read all the logs for this month and while ive been asleep looks like a lot of progress has been made on research |
| 20:57.20 | PITABoy | hey |
| 20:57.36 | PITABoy | mxktmdude |
| 20:58.26 | PITABoy | I am awake (here) usally from about 3pm est to about 2 am |
| 20:58.45 | PITABoy | that is gst -5 |
| 20:59.29 | mxktmdude | sounds like you have a little more knowledge than me, regarding how to attack this chipset lol.. my experience is mostly programming software not kernels/drivers however im very interested in that area. i have a little experence with asm as i used to code windows programs in it(as crazy as that sounds) |
| 21:00.00 | mxktmdude | cool im est time zone and am around usually that time as well |
| 21:00.11 | PITABoy | fyi I am not that smart cr2_ probably thinks that I am a noob |
| 21:00.50 | PITABoy | but I do know how to build a kernel and edit code to make it work if it is giving me errors bash scripts are the extent of my skills |
| 21:01.08 | PITABoy | porgraming skills anyways |
| 21:01.33 | mxktmdude | well from all the logs ive read, he seems like a god, pretty much untouchable in experience to the rest of us lol so we are all pretty much noobs lol |
| 21:01.50 | PITABoy | Most of my research is just days of googleing stuff that I think might be relevent and getting lucky |
| 21:02.32 | PITABoy | now I found that new google kernel but of course the god already knew about it |
| 21:02.50 | PITABoy | I am going to build and try to boot it when I get home |
| 21:03.08 | mxktmdude | ive done most of my googling searches regarding the msm7500 chipset docs, with no real progress but the websites youve found sound interesting... i will read up on them in a little bit |
| 21:03.09 | PITABoy | btw what phone do you have |
| 21:03.30 | PITABoy | is it the sprint mogul? |
| 21:03.33 | mxktmdude | htc p4000 titan |
| 21:03.36 | mxktmdude | im in canada |
| 21:03.41 | PITABoy | oh |
| 21:03.45 | PITABoy | so telus? |
| 21:03.47 | mxktmdude | i believe it is a mogul |
| 21:03.51 | mxktmdude | yes telus |
| 21:04.00 | PITABoy | yes suposadably it is the same hardware |
| 21:04.27 | PITABoy | do you have a sd card or an internet plan for your phone? |
| 21:04.29 | mxktmdude | yeah, so should be interesting working together :) |
| 21:04.44 | PITABoy | micro sd |
| 21:04.55 | mxktmdude | i have an internet plan.. but i hardly use it as i have wifi all around me |
| 21:05.16 | mxktmdude | im gonna pick up a microsd card as soon as understand what i need to do |
| 21:06.08 | PITABoy | cool get haret the latest one one sec i will get you a direct link (it is the program for finding out info about the phone and booting linux :-P) |
| 21:06.38 | mxktmdude | i have it already :) |
| 21:06.41 | PITABoy | ok |
| 21:06.43 | PITABoy | cool |
| 21:06.43 | mxktmdude | just dont really know how to use it |
| 21:06.52 | PITABoy | how much room do you have on your phone |
| 21:06.53 | mxktmdude | i have used it to telnet into my phone |
| 21:07.02 | mxktmdude | but thats as far as i understand |
| 21:07.04 | PITABoy | did your phone come with a micro sd card |
| 21:07.14 | PITABoy | I will teach you what the god taught me |
| 21:07.24 | mxktmdude | doesnt seem like there is good docs on how to use haret :( |
| 21:07.31 | PITABoy | true |
| 21:07.50 | mxktmdude | no it never came with a microsd card :( so i just installed haret using my wifi |
| 21:08.03 | PITABoy | but i have been learning I was even able to telnet to the phone |
| 21:08.23 | PITABoy | then you can save the logs on your computer like the ram dumps |
| 21:09.45 | PITABoy | ok so you have a usb cable right? |
| 21:09.51 | mxktmdude | i think ImCoKeMaN has a mogul device as well, but ive not talked to him.. he seems to know alot about the device |
| 21:10.01 | mxktmdude | yes i have a sub cable |
| 21:10.06 | mxktmdude | *usb |
| 21:10.16 | PITABoy | i think that he has it too he gave some dumps to cr |
| 21:10.35 | PITABoy | ok well plug in your phone like you are going to sync it |
| 21:10.46 | mxktmdude | k |
| 21:10.47 | PITABoy | let it sync then open network connections |
| 21:11.15 | PITABoy | you should see a new network connection on my computer it is names network connection 3 |
| 21:11.32 | mxktmdude | i dont run windows though L) |
| 21:11.34 | mxktmdude | :) |
| 21:11.37 | PITABoy | oh |
| 21:12.00 | mxktmdude | im a strictly linux environment at the moment |
| 21:12.03 | PITABoy | then do an ifconfig and see what ip you are connected to the titan on |
| 21:12.24 | PITABoy | the titan has a dhcp server and gives you an ip |
| 21:13.07 | PITABoy | I'm not at home so I dont have anything to develop here but the ip should be something like 234.254.1.2 I think |
| 21:13.38 | PITABoy | copy the first 3 octets and change the last octet to 1 that is the phone's IP address |
| 21:14.02 | mxktmdude | hmm interesting, it does give me another ip |
| 21:14.12 | mxktmdude | 169.254.4.142 |
| 21:14.31 | PITABoy | once you have that run haret press the listen for network connections and telnet to it on port 9999 |
| 21:14.45 | PITABoy | good then ping 169.254.4..1 |
| 21:14.50 | PITABoy | 169.254.4.1* |
| 21:14.56 | PITABoy | that should be your phone |
| 21:15.46 | mxktmdude | i have my phone as static ip so what ive been doing is turning on wifi, runniing haret and telneting to the static ip, but this is an interesting way i will look into more.. would be nice if there was software to set up the dhcp settings on the phone |
| 21:16.19 | PITABoy | if you get a response telnet to it like mentioned above. then type help and it will give you a fairly long list of stuff that you can do with haret |
| 21:16.28 | PITABoy | so you can ping the phone over wifi? |
| 21:16.43 | PITABoy | then just use that easier then the usb way |
| 21:16.53 | PITABoy | do you have aim? |
| 21:17.19 | mxktmdude | yeah i can ping all my devices with the wifi and all devices to the phone, pretty handy |
| 21:17.30 | mxktmdude | i do have aim, james@lwp.ca |
| 21:17.45 | PITABoy | i have aim on my phone but not irc and have to leave the comuter for like 10 mins but I will be back |
| 21:18.05 | mxktmdude | k |
| 21:18.51 | PITABoy | if you want to contact me on aim while I am walking around my aol instant messenger scrrenname is l33tlinuxh4x0r |
| 21:19.32 | mxktmdude | ohhh yes i know that name from my readings on the forum :) |
| 21:21.45 | GPFaway | is it possible to telnet to the hermes phone on windows? |
| 21:22.50 | mxktmdude | should be able to, i think windows comes wiith a telnet client |
| 21:23.01 | GPFaway | usb creates network connections and i assign a static ip address to it, and i can ping it, but no luck with telnet |
| 21:23.28 | PITABoy | yes |
| 21:23.35 | mxktmdude | you will need to run haret on the phone and click the listen for connections button before telneting |
| 21:23.57 | PITABoy | that is because you need to run haret and connect on port 9999 that is the important part |
| 21:23.59 | PITABoy | 9999 |
| 21:24.22 | GPFaway | so the hermes port doesn't have that enabled? |
| 21:24.30 | PITABoy | so in windows that would be telnet 111.222.333.444 9999 |
| 21:24.42 | PITABoy | replace 111.222.333.444 with the phone's ip address |
| 21:24.43 | GPFaway | http://jornada820.sourceforge.net/files/haret/ |
| 21:24.57 | GPFaway | hermes-linuxRD.exe |
| 21:25.31 | PITABoy | just get the normal release of haret |
| 21:25.43 | PITABoy | that release that you have has been edited to automaticly boot |
| 21:26.34 | GPFaway | ah so need the listen function of haret for windows usage? |
| 21:26.56 | GPFaway | but would work if telneting from linux? |
| 21:27.06 | PITABoy | http://handhelds.org/~koconnor/haret/haret-20071029d.exe |
| 21:27.06 | PITABoy | that is the latest and greatest ;-) |
| 21:27.06 | PITABoy | brb 5 mins |
| 21:27.18 | GPFaway | ok ill try it out |
| 21:29.32 | cr2_ | GPFaway: the linux ramdisk ip is .0.206 |
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| 21:29.45 | PITABoy | back |
| 21:30.30 | PITABoy | works with linux too |
| 21:30.40 | PITABoy | you just need to set that port |
| 21:31.03 | PITABoy | i think in linux the code is something like telnet 111.222.333.444:9999 |
| 21:31.14 | cr2_ | PITABoy: you are not a noob, you just make too much sensationalistic statements :) |
| 21:31.38 | mxktmdude | lol |
| 21:33.04 | cr2_ | mxktmdude: do you have msm7x00 too ? |
| 21:33.17 | mxktmdude | cr2_, yes |
| 21:33.42 | cr2_ | can you dump the first 32MB of address space ? |
| 21:33.56 | mxktmdude | im able to telnet, but thats the extent of what i know how to do at this point |
| 21:34.22 | PITABoy | mxktmdude I would like to see some dumps from your phone to compare hardware but you need an sd because the dumps that I want are 96Mb |
| 21:34.36 | PITABoy | also do you know if you use cdma or gsm |
| 21:34.51 | mxktmdude | can you not telnet in and dump it to the computer you telnet from? |
| 21:34.54 | cr2_ | then run it through 'strings' and look for the |
| 21:34.54 | cr2_ | 03/03/2007 14:03:11 [D :: Display] +DevDisplayInit |
| 21:34.54 | cr2_ | 03/03/2007 14:03:11 [D :: Display] DetectLCM - HITACHI PANEL |
| 21:34.54 | cr2_ | 03/03/2007 14:03:11 [D :: Display] -DevDisplayInit |
| 21:35.03 | mxktmdude | i use cdma |
| 21:35.14 | mxktmdude | gsm use in canada is sparse from what i understand |
| 21:35.18 | cr2_ | mxktmdude: it's from titan dump i've got. |
| 21:35.40 | cr2_ | we are not so far to run the radio yet. |
| 21:36.19 | PITABoy | mxktmdude also I will be to my home at about 7:15pm unless something comes up |
| 21:36.22 | cr2_ | so cdma vs. wcdma is not an issue. |
| 21:36.35 | mxktmdude | cr2_, how do i do the dump and can i have it dump to my desktop? i havent bought and sd card yet as i wasnt sure the size i should get |
| 21:36.37 | PITABoy | then we can get some real work done. |
| 21:37.35 | cr2_ | mxktmdude: do you have an SD card in the phone ? does it have ~40MB free ? |
| 21:37.40 | cr2_ | heh. i'm dumb ;) |
| 21:37.46 | GPFaway | telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused |
| 21:37.52 | GPFaway | i can ping it though |
| 21:37.59 | GPFaway | telnet 192.168.0.206 9999 |
| 21:38.10 | cr2_ | i always forget that the touchscreen on titan is InitTSC2003 |
| 21:38.20 | cr2_ | GPFaway: 9999 is only for haret. |
| 21:38.27 | cr2_ | telnet 192.168.0.206 |
| 21:38.28 | mxktmdude | no i dont have an sd card at the moment :( but i have 91 mbs free on the local disk space |
| 21:38.46 | cr2_ | mxktmdude: ok, but can you then pull it to the linux side ? |
| 21:39.22 | cr2_ | hid-input.c:(.text+0x30718): undefined reference to `w228x_unregister_mmc' |
| 21:39.33 | mxktmdude | i should be able to upload it to my local server via wifi... might take a few minutes but it works |
| 21:40.36 | GPFaway | still get connection refused :( lol |
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| 21:41.18 | mxktmdude | GPFaway, even though you clicked the listen for connections button? windows should display a circle thing while haret waits for connection |
| 21:41.31 | cr2_ | mxktmdude: ok, so you can run strings then. |
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| 21:41.49 | cr2_ | GPFaway: you booted the hermes-linuxRD.exe ? |
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| 21:41.56 | GPFaway | cr2_ yes |
| 21:41.58 | cr2_ | GPFaway: i can try it myself. |
| 21:43.45 | cr2_ | hmm. where is the microsd adapter... |
| 21:45.23 | mxktmdude | this might be handy!! openssh server ported to windows mobile http://www.codeplex.com/wiki/view.aspx?projectname=CESSH |
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| 21:47.51 | PITABoy | mxktmdude the server split and now nickserv isnt even working |
| 21:48.26 | cr2_ | ah. found it. |
| 21:48.26 | mxktmdude | PITABoy, i wondered what was happening |
| 21:48.56 | PITABoy | yeah I got bumped to the "split" server that only had like 4 people on it |
| 21:49.08 | PITABoy | it took forever to get back on the "main" server |
| 21:49.32 | PITABoy | so do you use cdma or gsm up there in Canada |
| 21:49.50 | mxktmdude | cdma |
| 21:49.54 | PITABoy | sweet |
| 21:49.57 | GPFaway | ok finally got it to telnet over wifi to hariet |
| 21:50.07 | PITABoy | haret |
| 21:50.12 | mxktmdude | GPFaway, congrats |
| 21:50.13 | GPFaway | yes |
| 21:51.18 | PITABoy | so mxktmdude like i was saying I should be getting home at about 7:15 tonight and will attempt to build a working kernel |
| 21:51.52 | mxktmdude | sounds good, i will be around, you have my aim address |
| 21:52.00 | PITABoy | If I get it to do anything more than decompress with haret aka screen garble blank screen device reset anything I will give you a copy |
| 21:52.08 | PITABoy | what is it? |
| 21:52.28 | PITABoy | james@lwp.ca <-- isnt that an email address |
| 21:52.31 | mxktmdude | james@lwp,ca |
| 21:52.39 | mxktmdude | yes but it works with aim |
| 21:52.42 | PITABoy | cool |
| 21:52.50 | PITABoy | let me try it are you on now? |
| 21:52.52 | mxktmdude | two birds with one stone ;) |
| 21:52.56 | mxktmdude | yes |
| 21:54.55 | PITABoy | my aim client wont let me add it it says that it isnt in screenname format (I'm guessing because of the @ |
| 21:55.27 | mxktmdude | hmm |
| 21:55.38 | mxktmdude | interesting |
| 21:55.50 | mxktmdude | do you have msn? |
| 21:55.53 | mxktmdude | jabber? |
| 21:55.54 | PITABoy | no i use aim |
| 21:56.07 | PITABoy | i do have jabber on my phone |
| 21:57.03 | mxktmdude | thats odd my aim wont work, i have a few people using that account, i use msn mostly |
| 21:57.20 | PITABoy | oh |
| 21:57.43 | PITABoy | yeah I forgot my msn login |
| 21:58.09 | PITABoy | IRC is the best though because we can send files |
| 21:58.12 | PITABoy | big files |
| 22:00.21 | PITABoy | so what do you think that you could program for the phone? |
| 22:00.22 | mxktmdude | yeah |
| 22:00.38 | mxktmdude | let me message your aim and see what happns |
| 22:00.51 | cr2_ | GPFaway: works for me. |
| 22:00.54 | PITABoy | one sec i need to get on |
| 22:01.15 | PITABoy | ok I'm connected |
| 22:01.22 | cr2_ | GPFaway: insert the USB cable only when you see the # prompt on the screen. |
| 22:03.05 | mxktmdude | PITABoy, i messaged you |
| 22:03.09 | PITABoy | i know |
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| 22:09.51 | BabelO | cr2_: can you confirm me something ? |
| 22:10.48 | cr2_ | BabelO: ? |
| 22:13.11 | BabelO | cr2_: i m on a project with other guy, and one of them tell me that standard C++ since 1998 have and or or as for && or || ?? are you agree with that |
| 22:13.59 | cr2_ | it must be C compatible. |
| 22:17.05 | BabelO | ok |
| 23:01.29 | cr2_ | BabelO: trying to run the ati sd ;) |
| 23:03.25 | BabelO | cr2_: already ? ;) waht about doc g3 read ? |
| 23:04.21 | cr2_ | hm. i'm dumb again. |
| 23:04.26 | cr2_ | trying to debug the driver without actually using it :) |
| 23:04.34 | cr2_ | root=/dev/ram0 |
| 23:04.52 | cr2_ | BabelO: get it from the vivien's git |
| 23:05.10 | BabelO | cr2_: you use this one , not your ? |
| 23:06.48 | cr2_ | i'm doing ati. the g3 driver is for tornado |
| 23:07.04 | BabelO | ok |
| 23:07.22 | cr2_ | i added a lot of printks ad see that everything worked. |
| 23:07.32 | cr2_ | but the SD message did not come out. |
| 23:07.43 | cr2_ | because i used ramdisk as root ;) |
| 23:07.59 | BabelO | lol |
| 23:08.39 | cr2_ | booting from the usb stick now. |
| 23:09.45 | cr2_ | usb host is slow. |
| 23:09.50 | cr2_ | probably 1.1 |
| 23:11.19 | cr2_ | rootdelay=10 ? |
| 23:17.10 | cr2_ | the driver is registered, but _probe is not called. strange. |
| 23:19.24 | cr2_ | heh. included the wrong header. with wrong DRIVER_NAME |
| 23:19.28 | cr2_ | linux is evil :) |
| 23:19.52 | BabelO | yes i ve done this a lot of time :) |
| 23:20.28 | cr2_ | hardcoding driver names looks more and more attractive. |
| 23:21.14 | cr2_ | great. |
| 23:21.20 | cr2_ | goot an oops finally. |
| 23:24.45 | cr2_ | ok, was my fault :) |
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| 23:26.51 | cr2_ | Vdd 20 |
| 23:27.20 | cr2_ | powermode 2 |
| 23:27.46 | cr2_ | clock 46875Hz |
| 23:28.15 | cr2_ | hmm. the clock needs a different setup probably. |
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| 23:41.06 | BabelO | cr2_: so sd ? ;) |
| 23:42.13 | cr2_ | the clock setup is not right. |
| 23:42.31 | cr2_ | this part is different on ati from asic3. |
| 23:44.09 | cr2_ | #define SD_CTRL_CARDCLOCKCONTROL_ENABLE_CLOCK (1<<8) // 0x0100 |
| 23:44.26 | cr2_ | #define SD_CTRL_CARDCLOCKCONTROL_CLK_DIV_2 (0<<0) // 0x0000 |
| 23:44.54 | cr2_ | #define SD_CTRL_CARDCLOCKCONTROL_FOR_SD_CARD (1<<15)// 0x8000 |
| 23:45.51 | cr2_ | linux wants to set |
| 23:45.54 | cr2_ | #define SD_CTRL_CARDCLOCKCONTROL_CLK_DIV_512 (1<<7) // 0x0080 |
| 23:46.06 | cr2_ | while wince uses |
| 23:46.12 | cr2_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:46.15 | cr2_ | the fastest. |
| 23:48.05 | cr2_ | SD.SdClockRate 312500 Initial(Hz) |
| 23:48.10 | cr2_ | say the docs. |
| 23:48.40 | cr2_ | this number 46875Hz comes from linux. |