| 00:00.42 | Zoolooc | folks, are you ready to boot a kernel on kaiser, or what? |
| 00:01.09 | dcordes | Zoolooc: no I'm trying to experiment with it |
| 00:02.53 | dcordes | I did that once two years ago with dvb-s receiver |
| 00:03.09 | dcordes | did work well :) |
| 00:04.32 | Zoolooc | dcordes: normally mine should work too, but since several firmware versions, the transfer stops systematically at exactly same percent position of the progressbar |
| 00:05.33 | dcordes | maybe replace it with decent arm system ^^ |
| 00:05.34 | Zoolooc | most firmwares stop at 88%, few of them at 17% already |
| 00:05.57 | Zoolooc | well, I have a VDR too |
| 00:06.09 | dcordes | Zoolooc: is the device bricked? |
| 00:06.17 | Zoolooc | no, it works |
| 00:06.38 | dcordes | mabye just let it relax before it bricks |
| 00:06.54 | dcordes | for me the firmware updates didn't really bring any improvements |
| 00:07.06 | Zoolooc | only firmware update no longer succeeds, and I also have a fine raster on the image, mostly noticeable on dark scenes |
| 00:07.29 | Zoolooc | and also when showing OSD |
| 00:08.06 | Zoolooc | well, there are channel editors on the PC, some of them are no longer compatible with older versions |
| 00:08.32 | dcordes | why not using vdr thingy? |
| 00:09.01 | Zoolooc | use it mostly for recording |
| 00:10.13 | cr2 | bah. it makes switching sound in the phone now ;) |
| 00:10.31 | dcordes | Zoolooc: we are bit offtopic. did you get my querry? |
| 00:10.53 | cr2 | lol |
| 00:11.02 | cr2 | HTC Athena Audi |
| 00:11.10 | Zoolooc | dcordes: recently? |
| 00:11.43 | dcordes | was not registred |
| 00:12.02 | cr2 | pH5: qtopia icons are too small for the 5" LCD :) |
| 00:13.05 | cr2 | i don't know why goxboxlive likes that black theme. |
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| 00:14.01 | cr2 | using a780 to make a photo. |
| 00:14.12 | cr2 | or maybe the universal. |
| 00:14.53 | cr2 | no. a780 sucks. |
| 00:16.32 | dcordes | sounds like you have loads of phones there |
| 00:16.47 | dcordes | did you try openmoko on a780 yet? I heard they have working images... |
| 00:18.17 | cr2 | i need working phone and gps. |
| 00:18.45 | dcordes | koen said phone works on a780. |
| 00:18.53 | dcordes | because they use the ezx functions |
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| 00:40.27 | dcordes | cr2: I can't find the vsfb thing for hermes in hh cvs :( could you point me in a direction? |
| 00:41.21 | cr2 | arch/arm/mach-s3c2442/htchermes/htchermes_lcd.c |
| 00:43.13 | dcordes | ok thanks |
| 00:46.24 | pH5 | "mmc0: unrecognised SCR structure version 1" |
| 00:46.27 | pH5 | argh |
| 00:47.01 | pH5 | I have htc-egpio and pxamci running on top of 2.6.24-rc3 + gpiolib, but that stupid pxa-mmc driver is still broken |
| 00:47.23 | cr2 | pH5: have a look here |
| 00:47.31 | cr2 | haha |
| 00:48.16 | dcordes | cr2: http://handhelds.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/linux/kernel26/arch/arm/mach-s3c2442/htchermes/htchermes_lcd.c so that keeps all information we need to make the display on kaiser work with vsfb? |
| 00:49.56 | cr2 | yes, you only need to put the right .smem |
| 00:50.02 | cr2 | http://jornada820.sourceforge.net/pic/ameo-qtopia4-2.jpg |
| 00:50.55 | cr2 | imho the default skin may be better. |
| 00:51.11 | dcordes | qtopia is kind of sexy |
| 00:51.19 | dcordes | I would like to try the interface on my zaurus |
| 00:52.00 | Zoolooc | hmm, why did sharp name those devices zaurus? |
| 00:52.13 | Zoolooc | to anticipate their extinction? |
| 00:52.25 | dcordes | why did they give the individual machine names dog names? |
| 00:52.36 | dcordes | haha possibly |
| 00:52.43 | dcordes | a pity they stopped production |
| 00:52.57 | Zoolooc | that's what I'm referring to |
| 00:54.04 | dcordes | Zoolooc: did you take a look at http://handhelds.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/linux/kernel26/arch/arm/mach-s3c2442/htchermes/htchermes_lcd.c |
| 00:55.03 | Zoolooc | yes, I've seen that |
| 00:55.44 | dcordes | do you have any idea how we "put it into" android kernel? |
| 00:55.57 | cr2 | dcordes: kiozen has n560 which is also not a phone, but thas the same vga LCD as universal. he works on qtopia4 and qt4 apps for it. |
| 00:56.43 | dcordes | I could help trying (c1000/akita also has vga) |
| 00:57.25 | dcordes | I have a spare sd which I could use to try qtopia |
| 00:58.29 | Zoolooc | cr2: Brian Swetland is working on adapting the msm patches to be accepted upstream, that means, there are changes to be expected. Knowing that, what would be the best approach of trying to adapt their kernel for 7200? |
| 01:01.45 | cr2 | Zoolooc: i think it's better to ask him directly. |
| 01:03.14 | cr2 | good night. |
| 01:03.19 | Zoolooc | I was asking from a technical point of view, which I have the impression, he is not really willing to respond to... |
| 01:03.21 | Zoolooc | good night |
| 01:03.35 | dcordes | gnite cr2 |
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| 07:30.21 | goxboxlive | good morning |
| 07:31.12 | goxboxlive | cr2: the black theme is default. I could change it, but i think it looks very good. It's just to change it under menu>settings>appearance |
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| 09:40.01 | pH5 | I should try to port the arm7tdmi uclinux to the ti calypso chipset instead. at least there I'd have a serial console :/ |
| 09:41.34 | goxboxlive | pH5: what did you think about, for the flash on magician? |
| 09:47.58 | pH5 | goxboxlive: I was just rambling. I'd like to have a serial console for the bootloader programming :) |
| 09:48.42 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 09:49.17 | goxboxlive | pH5: i am running Openmoko on my A780 now. It seems faster than on Universal. |
| 09:50.58 | pH5 | goxboxlive: I believe that :) VGA is a real resource hog on those slow devices, especially if your UI does pixmap scaling. |
| 09:51.35 | goxboxlive | pH5: right |
| 09:53.52 | goxboxlive | cr2: If we get the docg3 module working, is it posible for us then to run the zImage from the flash? It will be faster right? And more power friendly? |
| 09:55.24 | goxboxlive | pH5: on my A780 i have a triple boot system. 1) boot normal, 2) boot openezx from flash 3) upload zImage to flash via usb boot (like htc-tools). and |
| 09:55.57 | goxboxlive | will we be able to have the same on magician? Actually it will be quad boot if we include haret |
| 09:56.30 | pH5 | what's the difference between 2) and 3)? |
| 09:57.02 | goxboxlive | 2) the zImage is flashed in to the phone, it stays there. |
| 09:57.08 | goxboxlive | written to mtd |
| 09:57.24 | goxboxlive | 3 is like we do with magcian |
| 09:57.53 | pH5 | ah, so 3) is writing to RAM only |
| 09:57.59 | goxboxlive | yes |
| 09:58.07 | pH5 | we can right now boot from RAM (USB upload via HTC bootloader or HaRET via WinCE) |
| 09:58.19 | pH5 | when I get the bootloader running, we can boot from flash directly |
| 09:58.27 | goxboxlive | yes i know, but when rebooting the zImage is deleted |
| 09:58.36 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 09:59.01 | pH5 | and when cr2 or I figure out why SD diag cards didn't work so far, we can also boot from SD directly via HTC bootloader |
| 09:59.34 | goxboxlive | And with the bootloader you are going to make i can actually wipe out wince and replace it with our own images, or can choose to boot form SD right? |
| 09:59.45 | goxboxlive | :-) right |
| 09:59.48 | pH5 | and putting the zImage to flash can be done either via USB/HTC bootloader (htc-tools), via SD upload from the bootloader or by writing to /dev/mtdblock2 from running linux. |
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| 10:00.06 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 10:00.19 | pH5 | many choices :) |
| 10:00.40 | goxboxlive | yes so we can actually have a quad bootloader then. |
| 10:00.55 | goxboxlive | if we choose to run rootfs from sd |
| 10:44.01 | goxboxlive | pH5: the htc.patch suites also htcuniversal. So we dont need to add another one for it. |
| 10:44.50 | pH5 | goxboxlive: ok, I'll update the neod recipe. |
| 10:45.09 | goxboxlive | good |
| 10:45.56 | goxboxlive | Also another thing. How can we get the gsmd applet working with the signals? It just shows me that i am connected, but not my signal strength. |
| 10:47.21 | pH5 | goxboxlive: no idea, I haven't looked at the applet internals yet. |
| 10:47.31 | goxboxlive | pH5: ok |
| 10:47.49 | pH5 | all of this is supposed to change anyway once they get their phonekit/dbus interface running. |
| 10:48.00 | goxboxlive | ahh i c |
| 10:48.57 | goxboxlive | pH5: how do i notice if openmoko is using the moko-engine instead of the regular one? |
| 10:49.12 | goxboxlive | It's so damn slow on universal. |
| 10:49.17 | pH5 | goxboxlive: looks differently and is much faster |
| 10:49.37 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 10:50.19 | goxboxlive | man it really have to slow on the fic phone. Since it use vga too. |
| 10:50.45 | pH5 | http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/bdcf457fdb068e68e35327f0adcdfa49.png |
| 10:51.07 | pH5 | I think it's this one, does away with all of the eye candy pixmap borders |
| 10:51.18 | goxboxlive | ok, i am not using the moko-engine, because it looks real good on my screen. |
| 10:51.48 | goxboxlive | How do i enable it. Do i have to create a gtkrc file? |
| 10:52.00 | pH5 | no idea |
| 10:52.09 | goxboxlive | ok, i ask later in #openmoko. |
| 10:52.11 | pH5 | I just modified an existing gtkrc file |
| 10:52.27 | goxboxlive | i dont have any gtkrc file |
| 10:52.35 | goxboxlive | in /etc/gtk-2-0 |
| 10:52.51 | goxboxlive | it used to be there, but lately it has gone |
| 10:53.02 | goxboxlive | well have to go, bbl |
| 10:53.14 | pH5 | bye |
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| 11:18.31 | BabelO | hi |
| 11:18.45 | kiozen | hi BabelO |
| 11:19.01 | BabelO | cr2: pictures look nice on this big screen, you need an extra huge theme :) |
| 11:19.04 | BabelO | hi kiozen |
| 11:19.59 | pH5 | hi BabelO, kiozen |
| 11:20.50 | BabelO | pH5: what is thix armtdmi driver from uclinux ? |
| 11:22.07 | pH5 | BabelO: just joking. the ti calypso gsm chipset is an arm7tdmi processor |
| 11:22.21 | BabelO | pH5: ah ok ;) |
| 11:23.01 | BabelO | pH5: i think i have a bad radio rom on ba, openmoko hand too with it |
| 11:24.26 | pH5 | BabelO: which version is it? are there radio rom upgrades for ba? |
| 11:24.56 | pH5 | hm, yes there are. 1.15 is the latest radio rom that I have for BA |
| 11:27.57 | BabelO | pH5: it is 1.06, very old ;) |
| 11:28.15 | BabelO | pH5: is there a way to upload it with linux ? |
| 11:29.03 | kiozen | BabelO: QWSTslibMouseHandlerPrivate: ts_open() failed with error: 'No such file or directory' |
| 11:29.10 | kiozen | does that ring a bell? |
| 11:29.56 | BabelO | kiozen: do you use libts-1.0 ? |
| 11:30.16 | kiozen | yes |
| 11:30.47 | BabelO | kiozen: and you need /dev/ipunt/eventx or touchscreenx |
| 11:30.52 | pH5 | BabelO: not yet. I didn't manage to boot the radio into bootloader mode from linux yet. |
| 11:31.06 | pH5 | there is a gpio pin to select radio boot mode, but it doesn't work as I expected. |
| 11:31.15 | BabelO | pH5: ok, i ll try with virtualbox then |
| 11:31.59 | kiozen | I have both, ts_calibrate works |
| 11:32.30 | BabelO | kiozen: ok, so it is your environment variable or settings in custom.h |
| 11:32.58 | BabelO | kiozen: export QWS_MOUSE_PROTO=tslib:/dev/input/event4 |
| 11:34.14 | kiozen | ok, found something fishy, thanks, my son is bugging me ;), bbl |
| 11:34.33 | BabelO | bbl |
| 11:45.59 | BabelO | pH5: did you try qtopia on your magician ? |
| 12:11.50 | pH5 | BabelO: no |
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| 12:35.58 | jeanseb | hi |
| 12:36.15 | jeanseb | what is root default pass for familiar boot ? |
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| 13:10.08 | BabelO | jeanseb: no password ? |
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| 13:41.33 | dcordes | hi |
| 13:43.08 | dcordes | cr2: in order to add up vsfb for kaiser you told me to just take htchermes_lcd.c and change .smem_start - which value is put there for kaiser? |
| 13:46.04 | dcordes | cr2: also, where does that file go? /linux-msm/arch/arm/mach-msm ? |
| 13:50.20 | dcordes | do I have to specify vsfb in the defconfig or is it automagically built when I put it in the tree? |
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| 14:06.36 | jeanseb | BabelO, was rootme (old version) |
| 14:06.51 | BabelO | ok :) |
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| 14:12.06 | jeanseb | BabelO, what the dev file for accessing sd card ? |
| 14:12.41 | BabelO | jeanseb: on old image ... hmm /dev/mmcblk0p1 for example ? |
| 14:13.19 | jeanseb | in fact i only got inird boot |
| 14:13.48 | jeanseb | I only have sdcard reader on the pda |
| 14:13.55 | BabelO | jeanseb: or /dev/mmc/blk0/p1 on old version |
| 14:15.02 | jeanseb | non dev mmc is it sattic /dev ? |
| 14:15.36 | BabelO | you have only one partition ? |
| 14:15.40 | jeanseb | no its devfs so i lak a modules |
| 14:15.52 | BabelO | which device / version of image do you use ? |
| 14:15.54 | jeanseb | 2 i've parted it long time ago |
| 14:16.02 | jeanseb | blue angel |
| 14:16.20 | BabelO | jeanseb: you can rtry image at linuxtogo |
| 14:16.24 | jeanseb | Linux familiar 2.6.12-hh2-xda0-ba0 #132 Wed Jan 11 13:52:46 GMT 2006 armv5tel unknown |
| 14:16.41 | jeanseb | i got image, but need to untar it |
| 14:17.03 | jeanseb | gpe-image-blueangel.rootfs.tar.bz2 <- this one |
| 14:17.07 | BabelO | ah ok :( |
| 14:17.17 | jeanseb | the matter is just simple |
| 14:17.23 | jeanseb | now i got the image |
| 14:17.37 | jeanseb | probe th mmc module mount two part and unatr |
| 14:19.05 | jeanseb | BabelO, got /dev/mmc now thaxs |
| 14:19.10 | jeanseb | thanxs |
| 14:19.16 | BabelO | :) |
| 14:23.40 | jeanseb | OK utnared now |
| 14:24.14 | jeanseb | thaks a lot |
| 14:24.15 | jeanseb | thanks a lot |
| 14:46.05 | cr2 | hi |
| 14:46.16 | cr2 | such a big log to read |
| 14:46.44 | cr2 | pH5|boot: have you already booted ? |
| 14:50.47 | cr2 | BabelO: the phone scaled pixmap looks horrible. i've changed the size in qpe.sh to 75mmx100mm, but it did not help with the fonts. i guess that the BA image will be even worse. |
| 14:52.00 | cr2 | the keyboard on athena is hotpluggable, so it will put an end to the /dev/input/xxx hardcoding games |
| 14:56.57 | dcordes | hi cr2 |
| 15:10.51 | BabelO | cr2: you have to force QWS_SIZE=480x640 too ;) |
| 15:21.05 | dcordes | cr2: do you have a second for my kernel attempt? |
| 15:21.06 | jeanseb | how do i tell kernel tu load mmc modules and use the mmc aprt for root ? |
| 16:40.42 | dcordes | silent today :) |
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| 18:20.04 | cr2 | goxboxlive: hi |
| 18:22.14 | goxboxlive | cr2: hi, i have problem with a switch i have. |
| 18:23.06 | goxboxlive | hmm my build machine wouldnt connect. And the switch comunicate via a serial cable, and i dont have any serial ports on my computers :-( |
| 18:23.38 | goxboxlive | But the strange thing is that my wlan access point is getting a ip, but not my build machine. |
| 18:27.22 | cr2 | weird. |
| 18:28.41 | cr2 | goxboxlive: are you sure you have not hardcoded universal's LCD dimensions elsewhere ? |
| 18:28.56 | cr2 | i've changed to LinuxFb:mmWidth77:mmHeight100 |
| 18:28.59 | goxboxlive | cr2: Yes only in the startup script |
| 18:29.07 | cr2 | but the fonts are still too small |
| 18:29.09 | goxboxlive | check also qpe.conf |
| 18:29.20 | cr2 | ok. |
| 18:29.47 | cr2 | and something should be done about the screen calibration at first boot. |
| 18:30.26 | cr2 | i've done the calibration manually, but i will not wish somebody else to do it ;) |
| 18:31.05 | dcordes | hey cr2 |
| 18:31.28 | goxboxlive | ae you thinking about the size or touchscreen calibration? |
| 18:31.29 | cr2 | hi dcordes |
| 18:31.31 | dcordes | could you help me with vsfb? I don't know the memory address to set |
| 18:31.45 | cr2 | dcordes: show VRAM |
| 18:31.50 | goxboxlive | The calibration is automatic provided from OE now |
| 18:32.03 | cr2 | goxboxlive: automatic ? |
| 18:32.17 | dcordes | cr2: .smem_start = 0x10800000 <- I mean this value |
| 18:32.32 | dcordes | you told me this was the only thing to change from htchermes_lcd.c |
| 18:32.37 | cr2 | goxboxlive: in opie(tm) there was a calibration program started at first boot. |
| 18:32.39 | goxboxlive | yes when i build a image |
| 18:32.49 | goxboxlive | not anymore, i have disabled it |
| 18:32.49 | dcordes | also in GPE there is the first login callibration |
| 18:32.56 | cr2 | dcordes: you need to do 'show VRAM' in haret |
| 18:33.48 | cr2 | if [ ! -f /etc/pointercal ]; then qstartcalibration & ; fi |
| 18:34.15 | dcordes | oh I see |
| 18:34.28 | cr2 | goxboxlive: it's so obvious, that i'm surprised that it's not done by qtopia itself. |
| 18:34.36 | goxboxlive | dcordes: i have disabled it there too. |
| 18:34.50 | goxboxlive | Why use it when you dont need it. It boots faster without |
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| 18:35.16 | cr2 | ? |
| 18:35.17 | goxboxlive | cr2: you have a calibration tool in Qtopia |
| 18:35.25 | dcordes | show VRAM |
| 18:35.25 | dcordes | 0x10000000 |
| 18:35.26 | cr2 | i need it on athena. |
| 18:35.41 | goxboxlive | cr2: delete pointercal and run ts_calibrate |
| 18:35.45 | cr2 | goxboxlive: and how i'm supposed to start it ? |
| 18:35.57 | goxboxlive | form ssh |
| 18:36.12 | goxboxlive | i dont think qtopia start calibration anyway |
| 18:36.18 | goxboxlive | art first boot. |
| 18:36.21 | cr2 | goxboxlive: i don't have pxa27x_udc, and the keyboard. |
| 18:36.25 | goxboxlive | you have to start it manually |
| 18:36.29 | dcordes | cr2: is that the value to put for .smem_start? |
| 18:36.33 | cr2 | goxboxlive: it did even on my zaurus5500 |
| 18:36.45 | goxboxlive | Qtopia 4.3.*? |
| 18:37.01 | goxboxlive | nevert happend for me, thats why i added pointercal |
| 18:37.03 | cr2 | dcordes: really ? kaiser has its framebuffer in SDRAM ? |
| 18:37.31 | dcordes | that's just the show VRAM output.. no idea where or what it si |
| 18:37.33 | dcordes | is |
| 18:38.18 | cr2 | goxboxlive: qtopia4.3.* seems to be fine-tuned for a dumb phone, not for an internet tablet like athena :) |
| 18:39.48 | cr2 | goxboxlive: i also need to remove the hardcoded stuff from QWS_KEYBOARD= |
| 18:40.04 | cr2 | it simply does not make sense for me. |
| 18:40.31 | cr2 | and with a hotplug keyboard it is not going to work anyway. |
| 18:40.39 | goxboxlive | cr2: htckbdhandler is for universal, htcbuthandler is for magician, end openezxkbdhandler is for a780 |
| 18:41.00 | dcordes | cr2: so I put ".smem_start 0x10000000" ? |
| 18:41.09 | cr2 | goxboxlive: sounds too complicated for me. |
| 18:41.24 | goxboxlive | the hardcoding is a driver issue, have no idea how to fix it. There are other things that is more important to fix than that. |
| 18:41.36 | goxboxlive | cr2: really, on athena or universal? |
| 18:41.38 | cr2 | dcordes: yes, and you also need to add it to Kconfig, Makefile |
| 18:42.04 | cr2 | goxboxlive: on athena, but it does not matter. |
| 18:42.25 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 18:42.25 | cr2 | goxboxlive: you can't just add some custom keyboard handler per-device |
| 18:42.30 | dcordes | cr2: do you mean the ".smem_start 0x10000000" value or the .c file? |
| 18:42.40 | cr2 | dcordes: yes. |
| 18:42.46 | goxboxlive | cr2: dont u see that i allready do |
| 18:43.00 | cr2 | goxboxlive: ? |
| 18:43.16 | cr2 | goxboxlive: i mean adding such custom drivers does not make sense. |
| 18:43.22 | goxboxlive | i am satisfied as long as it works. For me everything could be hardcoded :-) |
| 18:43.32 | cr2 | ok. |
| 18:43.58 | goxboxlive | cr2: i know, but what a heck, we miss so much anyway, so i thinks it's better to have it working than not have it working. |
| 18:45.03 | cr2 | we spend too much time on these workarounds, and telling everybody how to use them. |
| 18:45.22 | cr2 | instead of doing it once, and right. |
| 18:45.26 | goxboxlive | you cant have fun without the keys, keyboard and ts working. And for me it's too complicated to try to make drivers for it. |
| 18:45.45 | goxboxlive | damn eth0 still failes.. hmm mu stupid new switch. |
| 18:47.08 | cr2 | well, how i'm supposed to interact with this device if i can't calibrate the screen, qtopia segfaults if it does not see the touchscreen, and the keyboard is expected on some fixed device. |
| 18:47.39 | cr2 | it may make business sense for trolls not to fix the mess, but for us it's just annoying. |
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| 18:48.58 | goxboxlive | cr2: boot a x11 image and calibrate. Save the pointercal file and add it to your Qtopia image |
| 18:50.50 | cr2 | it's a workaround again. and it tells you a story about the "linux" quality. |
| 18:51.05 | goxboxlive | :-) |
| 18:51.25 | cr2 | i'll run x11 if there will be the x11 qtopia image. |
| 18:51.50 | goxboxlive | cr2: just to create the pointercal file. |
| 18:52.04 | goxboxlive | boot a opie image then and calibrate |
| 18:53.03 | cr2 | or course i can fix everything, it just defeats the purpose of the whole excercise ;-) |
| 18:53.49 | goxboxlive | but remember to delete the pointercal file before you boot :-) |
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| 19:32.06 | goxboxlive | is 100.*.*.*a local ip? I thuoght it where only 10 and 168 |
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| 19:59.44 | ellisway | goxboxlive http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1918.txt |
| 20:38.27 | goxboxlive | ellisway: thx |
| 20:38.37 | goxboxlive | i ment 192 not 168 |
| 20:39.03 | goxboxlive | ellisway: yu are a network manager right? |
| 20:39.24 | goxboxlive | do you know how i can get access to my swithc without a serial port on my computer? |
| 20:39.42 | goxboxlive | I have no idea about the ip adress for the switch either |
| 20:40.14 | goxboxlive | is an allied telesys sf8000 or something . 24 port |
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| 21:04.21 | kiozen | cr2: ? |
| 21:21.10 | pH5 | Kevin2: remember that I wanted to send htc-egpio upstream some time? |
| 21:21.39 | pH5 | Kevin2: could you have a look at http://en.pastebin.ca/796201 and say nay or yay to the changes I made? |
| 21:23.24 | pH5 | Kevin2: http://en.pastebin.ca/796202 <-- this is an example of how to register it with the board code, I have plugged it into the gpiolib infrastructure, and added support for 8bit registers. |
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| 22:02.18 | cr2 | BabelO: i have a question about your qt4 image. |
| 22:04.21 | cr2 | ellisway: i'm a bit out of sync, are you planning to setup a wiki on htc-linux.org ? |
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| 22:08.19 | ellisway_phone | hi all |
| 22:08.55 | cr2 | pH5: also one interesting question for you :) is it technically possible to override the asic3 gpio block with htc-egpio ? |
| 22:08.57 | ellisway_phone | goxboxlive ill look into the switch info when i get home |
| 22:09.03 | cr2 | hi ellisway_phone |
| 22:09.20 | BabelO | cr2: yes ? |
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| 22:10.06 | ellisway_phone | only idea tha comes to mind atm though is if the switch has its mac addresson the bottom of the unit if so u can try setting the ip with a static arp entry |
| 22:10.10 | pH5 | cr2: theoretically yes, but it'd be really ugly as you have to set up direction correctly. htc-egpio is per definition fixed-direction. |
| 22:10.13 | ellisway_phone | cr2 |
| 22:10.59 | ellisway_phone | i started setting up a wiki on the server its htc-linux.org/wiki |
| 22:11.24 | ellisway_phone | admin username/password is the same as in the email i sent you |
| 22:12.38 | cr2 | ellisway_phone: ok. |
| 22:13.05 | cr2 | pH5: btw, i guess that the htc cpld is not suspended, and is powered during sleep. |
| 22:13.32 | pH5 | cr2: correct, at least for those that have the irq registers |
| 22:13.33 | ellisway_phone | let me know if you need any other info or if you need me to do anything |
| 22:13.56 | pH5 | cr2: the egpio chip on hx4700 is clearly powered off during suspend. |
| 22:14.15 | cr2 | pH5: it also has some hidden pins which are used only for suspend. is it possible to track them with haret ? |
| 22:14.42 | cr2 | pH5: the "small" egpio chip is also 16bit, not 8bit as others. |
| 22:14.59 | cr2 | ellisway_phone: ok, once i'll get to it. |
| 22:15.24 | pH5 | that's Kevin2's expertise, I think there was some resumetrace mechanism, but I couldn't get it to work. |
| 22:16.02 | cr2 | BabelO: do you generate .ipks for the additional packages not included in qtopia ? |
| 22:16.41 | cr2 | pH5: ok, i'll ask Kevin2 when he is available |
| 22:16.44 | BabelO | cr2: no, but i can, what are those package ? |
| 22:17.08 | BabelO | cr2: did you try QWS_SIZE on athena ? |
| 22:17.31 | cr2 | BabelO: i'm interested how i can deal with the roadmap ipk for the distribution purposes. |
| 22:18.16 | BabelO | cr2: for that i can setup roadmap pro file to generate it |
| 22:18.24 | cr2 | BabelO: i've copied the universal section in qpe.sh, and only changed the panel physical size. the pixel size is the same as on the universal. |
| 22:19.01 | BabelO | cr2: but you need to add QWS_SIZE too because my default is lower dpi |
| 22:19.19 | cr2 | BabelO: what is the "standard" way to compile an external app for qtopia4. we obviously can't rely on oe here. |
| 22:19.29 | BabelO | when i set both over vnc i have correct size |
| 22:19.32 | cr2 | BabelO: i've used an image by goxboxlive. |
| 22:19.43 | cr2 | BabelO: can i just use yours ? |
| 22:20.12 | cr2 | it seems to me that i need to enter this business too, so i 'll be able to compile to complete system. |
| 22:20.33 | cr2 | s/to c/the c/ |
| 22:20.40 | cr2 | hehe. |
| 22:21.12 | BabelO | cr2: to compile external appn you can take standard pro file just add this line qtopia_project(qtopia app) and then use qtopiamake from your depot qtopia build tree |
| 22:21.37 | BabelO | all cross compile is then done automatically |
| 22:21.43 | cr2 | BabelO: can you add the .pro file to xanadux CVS ? |
| 22:21.49 | BabelO | i do like that for multiple app and works perfect |
| 22:22.07 | BabelO | cr2: yes, i need to check it before , i try |
| 22:22.53 | cr2 | i'm close to autogenerating the world maps, and will do some patches to pick the location based tiles without doing a lookup in the global index. |
| 22:24.51 | cr2 | the global .osm file has reached 36GB, and they still insist on distributing xml and processing it with some perl/java tools. sometimes insanity blinds ;-) |
| 22:26.38 | cr2 | i'm curious who is paying for their bandwidth. |
| 22:27.11 | BabelO | yes and i hope it is not expensive |
| 22:27.54 | cr2 | it's going to be expensive when you don't have UMTS flatrate. |
| 22:28.08 | cr2 | and the _real_ flatrate is not cheap. |
| 22:32.48 | cr2 | BabelO: the qpe.sh |
| 22:32.59 | cr2 | case `cpuinfo_id` in |
| 22:32.59 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:32.59 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:32.59 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:35.13 | ellisway_phone | wheni changed dsl provider at home iused about 800mb of data over umts and as for ssh sessions it was a nightmare every time my phone rang the data connection would be droped |
| 22:36.11 | cr2 | ellisway_phone: hopefully you don't pay per kilobyte :) |
| 22:36.37 | cr2 | BabelO: do you remember the affine parameter order in the pointercal ? |
| 22:37.14 | BabelO | cr2: which one ? 4567 2 -1424848 20 5908 -1679124 65536 |
| 22:37.19 | cr2 | these are my data 30 8945 -2702484 -12036 25 45127260 65536 |
| 22:37.32 | cr2 | yes. |
| 22:38.01 | cr2 | the big numbers are the hor/vert offsets |
| 22:38.16 | BabelO | cr2: so your are in wrong order ? |
| 22:38.18 | cr2 | 65536 is the scale for these numbers. |
| 22:38.26 | cr2 | no, my ts is working. |
| 22:38.50 | BabelO | strange diff |
| 22:38.56 | cr2 | btw, the scrollbar in the setup menu if unacceptably narrow. |
| 22:39.08 | ellisway_phone | tmobile web and walk in the uk |
| 22:39.37 | BabelO | cr2: ah ah, you can add a big button instead, it is a style sheet only, settable over etc/themes |
| 22:40.03 | cr2 | 30 and 25, and 2 and 20 scaled by 2^16 are effectively zero, so there is no substantial rotation. |
| 22:41.04 | cr2 | ellisway_phone: t-mob data is very expensive here. i don't even think about it :) |
| 22:42.38 | ellisway_phone | costs 7.50 per month flat rate with a 1gb fair usage policy |
| 22:43.29 | ellisway_phone | but that only applies when not roaming |
| 22:43.49 | ellisway_phone | when roaming it gets expensive |
| 22:44.33 | cr2 | ellisway_phone: what happens when you exceed 1GB ? |
| 22:44.56 | ellisway_phone | not sure never managed to do so yet |
| 22:45.52 | cr2 | ellisway_phone: i think 1GB is nothing. think voip. |
| 22:46.16 | ellisway_phone | when i changed provider was the closest i got that was 800mb in a 2 week period with the umts as my only connection |
| 22:47.17 | cr2 | look at the weekly diffs: http://planet.openstreetmap.org/ |
| 23:00.57 | J4k3 | 1gb is a lot of g729 |
| 23:01.01 | J4k3 | or gsm |
| 23:01.06 | J4k3 | g711 over mobile is kinda silly |
| 23:04.52 | cr2 | BabelO: where is your qtopia image ? i'll try it on athena :) |
| 23:05.32 | BabelO | cr2: latest is the one at linuxtogo.org, just missing two line in Tasks.cfg for battery status |
| 23:05.52 | cr2 | ok, i'll download it. |
| 23:06.28 | cr2 | 27 Oct ? |
| 23:06.40 | BabelO | yes |
| 23:07.07 | cr2 | ok. |
| 23:07.57 | J4k3 | my average wireless user consumes less than 500MB/month |
| 23:08.36 | J4k3 | a vonage customer, who runs g711 (80k/80k on call), on my wireless, consumes about 900MB/month. he's also a nerdy ham operator kinda guy, who prolly does a lot of surfing ;) |
| 23:08.49 | cr2 | lol |
| 23:09.16 | BabelO | cr2: roadmap qt4 Makefile is hard to understand, how it create to ouput for qtroadmap and qtroadgps ? |
| 23:10.31 | cr2 | i've once forgot to close a netscape window over ssh 3 years ago. with animated gifs it amassed 5GB traffic over night. the people were not amused at that time ;) |
| 23:10.42 | cr2 | BabelO: don't remember. |
| 23:11.07 | cr2 | BabelO: what should i change in Tasks ? |
| 23:12.32 | BabelO | cr2: just add HtcphoneBattery and HtcphoneHardware to section prestartup |
| 23:12.55 | BabelO | or APMBattery in your case may be better |
| 23:13.32 | BabelO | hey , did someone here try http://www.getmiro.com ? |
| 23:13.56 | cr2 | BabelO: what to do with DefaultBattery ? |
| 23:14.09 | BabelO | keep it like this* |
| 23:14.16 | cr2 | ok. |
| 23:14.26 | cr2 | BabelO: i need to try usb dvb-t :) |
| 23:14.38 | BabelO | cr2: do you have same sdcard for BA and athena ? :) |
| 23:14.40 | pH5 | BabelO: is miro what was democracyplayer once? in that case, yes. |
| 23:14.54 | BabelO | pH5: yes, it is the new name |
| 23:15.00 | cr2 | BabelO: i use USB on athena. |
| 23:15.26 | cr2 | isn't miro(r)(tm)(fm) ? |
| 23:15.39 | BabelO | pH5: there is lot of interesting thing on science, but this python2.5 ... grhhh i need to upgrade my system |
| 23:17.45 | cr2 | pH5: i'll setup the bt and gps in an old hacky way. btuart/ffuart with some power gpios. |
| 23:17.48 | BabelO | cr2: The Miro name, logo, and icon are trademarks of the Participatory Culture Foundation :) |
| 23:18.13 | BabelO | cr2: so you boot over USB on an hardrive ? |
| 23:18.24 | BabelO | cr2: what about epson controller ? |
| 23:18.56 | cr2 | BabelO: root=/dev/sda2 rootdelay=10 to reinsert the powered hub connector. |
| 23:19.03 | cr2 | epson needs a driver. |
| 23:19.17 | BabelO | ok ;) |
| 23:20.26 | cr2 | if athena had a 800x600 lcd, nokia could have taken a break ;) |
| 23:20.47 | cr2 | a real internet pad. |
| 23:21.03 | cr2 | with hsdpa and external gps antenna. |
| 23:22.29 | cr2 | i have not expected that kaiser uses dram for fb. and that the "fb accel" registers reads are faulting. |
| 23:26.20 | cr2 | BabelO: the blackscreen init says "no more processes left in this runlevel" |
| 23:26.44 | BabelO | cr2: yes it take some minutes to come up |
| 23:26.56 | BabelO | minutes, maybe not :) |
| 23:27.01 | cr2 | hehe. not very user-friendly :) |
| 23:27.24 | cr2 | even on a 624MHz cpu with 128M ram ? |
| 23:28.47 | BabelO | cr2: does it start ? |
| 23:28.49 | cr2 | if the console will be blanked now, it's not going to wake up. |
| 23:29.00 | cr2 | no. |
| 23:29.27 | cr2 | i need to attache the usb keyboard to have a look. |
| 23:29.28 | BabelO | really strange ... i just unpach and it boot on ba |
| 23:29.40 | BabelO | you have to try by hand then :( |
| 23:30.03 | cr2 | what do you have in qpe.sh ? |
| 23:30.18 | BabelO | cr2: no i just use /etc/init.d/qpe |
| 23:30.35 | BabelO | goxboxlive: qss2 compile ;) |
| 23:37.00 | cr2 | BabelO: no login at this runlevel, need to change inittab |
| 23:37.12 | BabelO | cr2: no ssh ? |
| 23:37.22 | cr2 | how ? |
| 23:37.29 | cr2 | it should be getty. |
| 23:37.58 | BabelO | cr2: isn't dropbear ? |
| 23:38.00 | cr2 | i don't have usb |
| 23:38.09 | BabelO | ah right ;)= |
| 23:39.36 | cr2 | the dvb-t will not really work. |
| 23:39.45 | cr2 | because it wants usb-2.0 |
| 23:40.30 | cr2 | it will kinda work on 1.1, but not really good. |
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| 23:44.55 | cr2 | BabelO: you don't have getty in level 3 ?? |
| 23:46.06 | BabelO | cr2: no i ve removed getty because was used port ttyS0 |
| 23:46.27 | BabelO | 2:2345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty tty2 |
| 23:46.45 | BabelO | or getty |
| 23:47.22 | cr2 | tty0 ? |
| 23:59.54 | cr2 | BabelO: cannot execut /sbin/migetty ;) |
