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| 00:45.59 | imanex_ | cr2_: running linux in a box now within windows, arent i l33t. |
| 00:58.37 | imanex | just touch it. |
| 00:59.49 | paulproteus | http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Guerrilla_Warfare_and_the_OLPC |
| 01:09.31 | dcordes | crazy |
| 01:10.35 | dcordes | paulproteus: what's c4l? |
| 01:10.46 | paulproteus | dcordes, I don't know, actually. |
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| 05:33.10 | goxboxlive | good morning |
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| 05:50.47 | paulproteus | Mornin. |
| 05:51.34 | dcordes | moin |
| 06:00.11 | goxboxlive | cr2_: do you have this: http://www.cdmatech.com/download_library/pdf/msm6250_chipset.pdf |
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| 06:17.04 | dcordes | cr2_, http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_GPIO updated |
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| 09:11.44 | imanex_ | exit |
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| 09:13.15 | imanex | yo cr2_ u about man? |
| 09:27.37 | imanex | anyone about? |
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| 09:37.22 | Tipolosko | hi |
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| 10:15.48 | BabelO | hi |
| 10:18.01 | imanex | hey |
| 10:19.14 | imanex | sorry im not cool enough, hey cr2_ say hi to this bitch. |
| 10:49.33 | Stamrogh | ? |
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| 11:14.30 | BabelO | ? |
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| 11:46.32 | dcordes | :( |
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| 11:49.12 | dcordes | hey imanex |
| 11:49.17 | imanex | yo dude |
| 11:49.23 | imanex | got linux installed. |
| 11:49.41 | dcordes | you can except everybody to be around waiting for you. people have to earn money and stuff |
| 11:49.43 | imanex | gcc all that shit, just need to compile a kernel so i can use external storage (usb) |
| 11:49.50 | dcordes | can't |
| 11:49.57 | imanex | why people waiting around for me? |
| 11:50.11 | dcordes | I am refering to "<imanex> sorry im not cool enough, hey cr2_ say hi to this bitch." |
| 11:50.23 | imanex | ahhh lol |
| 11:50.30 | imanex | wasnt sposed to be offencive hehe |
| 11:50.32 | dcordes | which distro did you install? |
| 11:50.42 | imanex | ubundy 7.ten |
| 11:50.46 | imanex | ubuntu |
| 11:50.52 | imanex | thinkin of going suse |
| 11:51.00 | imanex | mates say its l33t |
| 11:51.24 | dcordes | you know what a toolchain is? |
| 11:51.30 | imanex | nope... |
| 11:51.57 | imanex | only used linux a few times, but have a fairly good understanding of3 |
| 11:52.18 | imanex | i can know but, gimme google and like 20 mins to read up |
| 11:53.12 | dcordes | very good. So in case you want to cross compile (compilling on a machine with a different architecture than your target machine, which is what you want to do) you need a toolchain. |
| 11:53.55 | imanex | is it an app name or what "toolchain" |
| 11:53.56 | dcordes | there is a detailed guide on how to build a handhelds.org kernel for the htc universal. I guess you can look up almost everything there for use with your device |
| 11:54.18 | dcordes | look it up |
| 11:54.21 | imanex | i need to recompile a kernel for mine |
| 11:54.29 | imanex | my external storage isnt showin up |
| 11:54.45 | dcordes | sd reader? |
| 11:54.51 | imanex | i have an sd reader |
| 11:54.56 | imanex | that doesnt work either |
| 11:55.04 | dcordes | and doesn't work right now? |
| 11:55.06 | imanex | i mean 350gb external hdd (usb) |
| 11:55.08 | imanex | nope |
| 11:55.13 | imanex | nothing works |
| 11:55.17 | imanex | thats why i didnt keep linux |
| 11:55.21 | dcordes | this is not the place to ask for such. consult your distro fellows #ubuntu |
| 11:55.24 | imanex | im affraid to fuck with the kernel |
| 11:55.29 | imanex | nice |
| 11:55.30 | imanex | ta |
| 11:56.05 | dcordes | you don't fuck with it but do what instructions tell you |
| 11:56.06 | goxboxlive | imanex: http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/UniversalKernel should guide you to compile your own kernel. |
| 11:56.35 | imanex | thanks dude |
| 11:56.44 | imanex | gotta compile a kernel for my desktop first |
| 11:56.48 | dcordes | this is what I was refering to above |
| 11:56.52 | imanex | all my shit is on external hdd |
| 11:56.53 | dcordes | good idea |
| 11:57.14 | sadeness | dcordes, good idea? to put shit on hdd? |
| 11:57.14 | dcordes | you don't need to compile a new kernel for this |
| 11:57.15 | sadeness | :D |
| 11:57.56 | dcordes | imanex, as I told you this is not the place for this |
| 11:57.56 | imanex | it says on sites that all the drivers are coded into the kernel, u need to modify a small part of the source so it loads ur external usb storage on startup and mount |
| 11:58.00 | imanex | i know |
| 11:58.07 | imanex | i was explaining myself for sadeness |
| 11:58.23 | imanex | relax dude, ill keep my mouth shut |
| 11:59.11 | imanex | i so wish linux was more user friendly |
| 11:59.29 | sadeness | chmod +uf /linux |
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| 14:36.47 | Pryan | hi |
| 14:37.27 | Pryan | kevin2 hows going the driver for the keyboard in athena ? |
| 14:49.25 | Pryan | somebody in |
| 14:50.28 | Pryan | involved in development of ahena appart of cr2 and kevin2 ? |
| 14:56.28 | Pryan | anybody to speak with ? |
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| 15:07.22 | Pryan2 | im still here |
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| 16:36.16 | BabelO | hi goxboxlive |
| 16:36.24 | pH5 | hi BabelO, goxboxlive |
| 16:36.40 | BabelO | hi pH5, any cradle news for BA |
| 16:36.53 | goxboxlive | hi all |
| 16:37.19 | pH5 | BabelO: not yet :( |
| 16:37.25 | pH5 | that means more time for herald bootloader |
| 16:38.41 | pH5 | Kevin2: is make-project-list called automatically via crontab, or do you have to do that manually? |
| 16:38.43 | BabelO | pH5: yesturday, i was looking at mobile linux git, i think i restart artemis from this tree, just keeping device specific setup |
| 16:40.51 | pH5 | BabelO: great |
| 16:41.00 | pH5 | how is the merge going? |
| 16:41.35 | BabelO | pH5: hard for me :) |
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| 16:42.55 | BabelO | pH5: Kevin2 have done it for apache, so i think ba works with same tree, only wifi is missing, i did not check for sound |
| 16:42.59 | BabelO | hi cr2 |
| 16:43.30 | pH5 | hej cr2 |
| 16:44.37 | cr2 | hi |
| 16:47.44 | cr2 | dcordes: are you here ? |
| 16:53.14 | imanex | cr2 |
| 16:53.37 | imanex | i been waiting for u bro, dcordes has been helping me try to compile a kernel for htc-beetle |
| 16:53.43 | cr2 | pH5: you are the python expert :) can you add the asic3 to regs_misc.py ? |
| 16:54.15 | cr2 | imanex: you need to get the code from hh.org CVS and a toolchain. |
| 16:54.21 | imanex | we done that |
| 16:54.24 | imanex | it has errors |
| 16:54.36 | cr2 | the compilation ? |
| 16:54.36 | imanex | step by step to the sites instructions |
| 16:54.42 | imanex | when we make |
| 16:54.47 | imanex | we get errors |
| 16:54.55 | cr2 | maybe |
| 16:55.05 | imanex | <imanex> make[1]: *** [scripts/basic/fixdep] Error 1 |
| 16:55.05 | imanex | <imanex> make: *** [scripts_basic] Error 2 |
| 16:55.26 | imanex | me and dcordes tried doing it a few ways |
| 16:55.51 | imanex | he even gave me a cross-compiler to try he threw together or something |
| 16:56.24 | imanex | cr2, wat i was gonna ask... cud you please compile me a kernel for beetles |
| 16:56.31 | imanex | i have correct mtype and everything |
| 16:56.38 | imanex | all i need is zimage |
| 16:57.47 | imanex | i installed linux especially for this |
| 16:58.09 | cr2 | i'm compiling |
| 16:58.15 | imanex | thank you so much |
| 16:58.18 | imanex | im so ur bitch |
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| 17:00.42 | imanex | r u compiling universal, or beetles? |
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| 17:01.07 | cr2 | beetles. universal is a different device |
| 17:01.14 | Pryan | hi cr2 |
| 17:01.40 | Pryan | how is going the development of athena ? |
| 17:01.45 | Pryan | any news ? |
| 17:04.06 | cr2 | Pryan: no |
| 17:04.23 | cr2 | imanex: http://jornada820.sf.net/files/haret/zbee |
| 17:04.43 | dcordes | cr2, just a minute. I'm doing the dishes |
| 17:04.51 | imanex | thankyou dude |
| 17:04.54 | pH5 | cr2: aye |
| 17:05.27 | cr2 | Pryan: i need a better understanding of the ATI irq handling for ATI SD |
| 17:05.27 | imanex | cr2, do i rename that to zimage? |
| 17:05.36 | cr2 | imanex: if you'd like |
| 17:05.49 | Pryan | aham |
| 17:06.13 | Pryan | ati dowesnt answer me about the screen rotation |
| 17:06.29 | Pryan | so his support is null |
| 17:06.39 | Pryan | about everything |
| 17:08.10 | Pryan | there's no other device that use ATI IRQs ? |
| 17:10.54 | Pryan | if i can help in something |
| 17:13.36 | cr2 | hermes, but it's the same chip. |
| 17:16.04 | Pryan | so you can use hermes ati irq management to make the athena driver |
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| 17:18.02 | dcordes | cr2, alrighto I'm here |
| 17:19.15 | imanex | fkn cardreader bs |
| 17:19.29 | imanex | what is a better distro of linux that ubuntu that i wud be able to use |
| 17:20.56 | cr2 | imanex: check if the kernel boots first. |
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| 17:21.13 | cr2 | Pryan: it's easier to do it on athena first. |
| 17:23.14 | dcordes | cr2, you called? |
| 17:23.29 | Pryan | ahm |
| 17:23.43 | Pryan | you havent started ? |
| 17:23.51 | Pryan | or got some code |
| 17:25.32 | BabelO | goxboxlive: did you try poky ? ;) |
| 17:26.06 | dcordes | poky is so cool with matchbox2 and the sato theme ^^ |
| 17:26.13 | cr2 | Pryan: i have written some code, but it needs some changes. |
| 17:26.42 | imanex | IT FUCKING WORKS OMG |
| 17:26.44 | imanex | @#$^#@$%&$&Y@#$ |
| 17:27.07 | cr2 | dcordes: if you'll convince androids that you need the SD driver then you've won. |
| 17:27.09 | imanex | unable to mount rootfs |
| 17:27.38 | BabelO | dcordes: you try it on which device ? |
| 17:27.40 | cr2 | imanex: sure, you need the rootfs then. |
| 17:27.51 | dcordes | swetland, do you have a minute? :-) |
| 17:28.23 | goxboxlive | BabelO: what is poky? |
| 17:29.00 | dcordes | goxboxlive, www.pokylinux.org it is the distro from open hand |
| 17:29.13 | goxboxlive | dcordes: any screenshots? |
| 17:29.13 | dcordes | based on a for of openembedded |
| 17:29.24 | dcordes | I think they have some |
| 17:29.39 | goxboxlive | i thuoght it was a gpe fork |
| 17:29.42 | dcordes | cr2, could you detail a bit on what "you've won" means? |
| 17:29.55 | paulproteus | Wait, what just happened? |
| 17:29.58 | dcordes | goxboxlive, it's not only about the gui. It's like a very sleek angstrom |
| 17:30.12 | imanex | cr2, where i find rootfs? |
| 17:30.18 | imanex | is that the jffs2 files? |
| 17:30.21 | imanex | like 64mb |
| 17:30.27 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 17:30.44 | imanex | Kernel panic - not syncing VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(1,0) |
| 17:30.59 | dcordes | cr2, sounds like you were cooking something :) |
| 17:31.17 | imanex | smells good too |
| 17:32.48 | Pryan | and to mobilinux is the best in pocket distributions |
| 17:33.00 | cr2 | dcordes: i've found many cpld gpios, and will put the mddi data into wiki. i think the gpio issues can be resolved with some effort. so the biggest remaining issue is the SD driver. |
| 17:33.36 | dcordes | cr2, sounds pretty good. I updated the gpios page a little yet |
| 17:33.51 | dcordes | found 2 or 3 bt related ones and 2 screen related |
| 17:33.51 | Pryan | i have writen to mobilinux too but no response |
| 17:34.35 | dcordes | cr2, they don't have anything about SD in git, do they? |
| 17:35.38 | imanex | i had to hard reset for my phone to start up |
| 17:37.20 | cr2 | dcordes: i think not. swetland said they are planning to support SD. |
| 17:37.49 | paulproteus | Sorry, what are you guys talking about? |
| 17:38.06 | dcordes | paulproteus, htckaiser |
| 17:38.12 | paulproteus | Nice |
| 17:38.25 | imanex | cr2, what do i name the rootfs file? |
| 17:41.15 | cr2 | imanex: have you unpacked the rootfs to some SD partition ? |
| 17:41.39 | cr2 | what is your kernel commandline ? |
| 17:42.20 | cr2 | Pryan: about ATI -> http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2007-September/010175.html |
| 17:42.24 | Pryan | [cr2] and is not possible to make soft-screen-rotation on console ? |
| 17:43.13 | imanex | i have rootfs for opie i think |
| 17:43.16 | cr2 | Pryan: i think it should be easy. check how it's done on the universal. it's the kernel commandline parameter |
| 17:43.19 | imanex | i think its a jffs file |
| 17:43.38 | imanex | i have to hardreset my phone every time i get out of linux but |
| 17:43.43 | imanex | there is no cmdline |
| 17:43.49 | cr2 | imanex: i've never booted off jffs2. |
| 17:43.58 | cr2 | cmdline is in the default.txt |
| 17:44.08 | imanex | can u give me a link of a file that will work with haret |
| 17:44.18 | imanex | i just wanna see linux running on my masheen |
| 17:44.25 | cr2 | you probably need to 'dd' the jffs2 image to a partition. |
| 17:44.28 | dcordes | imanex, I think you want to set CMDLINE= blabla in default.txt. see my querry... |
| 17:44.31 | imanex | i did my own default.cfg |
| 17:45.16 | imanex | i see ur query dude, i just dunno what to put in cmdline |
| 17:45.23 | cr2 | imanex: beetles has 2 SD controllers, so you need to know which one is found first, and from which card you want to boot. |
| 17:45.25 | imanex | there is no cmdline entry in my default.txt |
| 17:45.35 | imanex | the sd is found first |
| 17:45.39 | imanex | not minisd |
| 17:45.56 | dcordes | lol it has 2 SDs for card? |
| 17:45.58 | imanex | i have no rootfs file on it n e ways to find |
| 17:46.09 | imanex | 3 files, zbee, haret.exe, default.txt |
| 17:46.13 | imanex | thats it |
| 17:46.14 | pH5 | cr2: regs_misc.py: http://en.pastebin.ca/813617, regs_asic3.py: http://en.pastebin.ca/813621 |
| 17:46.21 | cr2 | where do you want to put the root ? |
| 17:46.27 | imanex | wherever |
| 17:46.30 | pH5 | completely untested though, gotta fire up the hx |
| 17:46.31 | imanex | im listening to u |
| 17:46.41 | imanex | im happy to use the whole 2gb just for linux |
| 17:47.03 | imanex | ill wack it in the the root of the card |
| 17:47.05 | cr2 | pH5: great. i feel completely overloaded ;) |
| 17:47.32 | dcordes | cr2, you need some good looking secretaries |
| 17:47.48 | pH5 | lol. on irc you don't even need a sexy voice. |
| 17:48.16 | dcordes | traalllallera ^^ |
| 17:48.40 | cr2 | dcordes: it's tough. i'm working at a physics dept. |
| 17:49.29 | dcordes | cool |
| 17:50.00 | imanex | does haret boot of jffs2? |
| 17:50.15 | dcordes | imanex, the question is: does your kernel boot of jffs2? |
| 17:50.24 | imanex | yer thats wat i meant |
| 17:50.27 | imanex | :/ |
| 17:50.29 | dcordes | imanex, after it took over, it doesn't matter what haret does |
| 17:50.45 | dcordes | imanex, depends on what cr2 did build into it |
| 17:51.11 | dcordes | imanex, you can just use an ex2 partition and dump any jffs2 into it |
| 17:51.24 | dcordes | or a rootfs.tar.gz or whatever. |
| 17:51.38 | imanex | dcordes, how do make a partition on my sd card? |
| 17:51.51 | dcordes | query |
| 17:51.53 | imanex | k |
| 17:52.17 | Pryan | [cr2] so openmoko will have ati drivers in gpl |
| 17:52.24 | Pryan | but when ? |
| 17:57.04 | Pryan | this list is of september 2007 |
| 17:57.16 | dcordes | cr2, how will we go on about the display after you got mddi stuff working? Will we be able to access nand? |
| 17:57.27 | Pryan | and theu first will do the documentation |
| 17:58.30 | cr2 | Pryan: there will be _no_ ati documentation ever. |
| 17:58.39 | cr2 | dcordes: the nand driver is already there. |
| 17:58.49 | dcordes | great |
| 17:58.56 | dcordes | and display? |
| 17:59.12 | cr2 | dcordes: do you have IR ? |
| 17:59.16 | dcordes | nope |
| 17:59.21 | cr2 | or serial ? |
| 17:59.30 | dcordes | don't know if there is some kind of serial port |
| 17:59.34 | dcordes | you mean for console purpose? |
| 17:59.36 | cr2 | usb ? |
| 17:59.39 | dcordes | usb. |
| 17:59.48 | dcordes | usual htc usb |
| 18:00.04 | cr2 | ok, but we don't have usb driver ... |
| 18:00.24 | cr2 | dcordes: can you look for the usb gpios ? |
| 18:00.38 | cr2 | do you have the headphone ? |
| 18:00.47 | dcordes | yep |
| 18:01.23 | cr2 | does it have a button ? |
| 18:02.01 | dcordes | yes |
| 18:02.01 | cr2 | you can check for the in/out gpios and for the button gpio. |
| 18:02.01 | cr2 | on athena it's on cpld. |
| 18:02.04 | dcordes | I tried to coax you about cpld research |
| 18:02.10 | dcordes | couldn't figure how to do it |
| 18:02.55 | cr2 | it's already included in the latest haretconsole |
| 18:03.16 | dcordes | I hope I have the right version then |
| 18:03.29 | cr2 | look at the regs_misc.py file |
| 18:03.42 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:03.43 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:03.43 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:04.16 | dcordes | of course the file we edited |
| 18:04.35 | cr2 | pH5: +Regs_Hermes.update(regs_ati.getWxxxxDefs(0x08000000)) ? |
| 18:04.55 | pH5 | copy&paste |
| 18:05.04 | pH5 | :/ |
| 18:05.06 | cr2 | ok. |
| 18:05.21 | cr2 | but you have ati too. |
| 18:05.22 | dcordes | cr2, http://pastebin.ca/813652 just to make sure. Maybe I will just copy the latest console and haret? |
| 18:05.44 | dcordes | are the msm specific things in mainline? |
| 18:05.46 | cr2 | dcordes: get the latest |
| 18:05.55 | cr2 | afaik no. |
| 18:06.27 | dcordes | so if I get the latest, I won't have the msm things? |
| 18:07.09 | cr2 | pH5: i don't get this HWPROTECT stupidity ;-) |
| 18:07.37 | cr2 | pH5: did they just want to hide that it's a HTC ASIC ? |
| 18:11.24 | Pryan | [cr2] may i help you ? |
| 18:11.33 | Pryan | with gnuharet ? |
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| 18:12.56 | pH5 | cr2: or that comment was just written by somebody at compaq who can't read ascii |
| 18:13.08 | cr2 | lol |
| 18:15.21 | cr2 | rakeem said 30H9008580 |
| 18:17.25 | cr2 | wiki has 30H8001250 |
| 18:17.57 | dcordes | cr2, headset button is 2-6 |
| 18:18.56 | dcordes | but I only get 2-6 with 0=pressed 1=released |
| 18:19.41 | cr2 | dcordes: that's ok. |
| 18:19.46 | cr2 | bbl. need some food. |
| 18:19.52 | dcordes | I will add it up |
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| 18:24.18 | Pryan | [cr2] please work on it, i want to run linux on my HTC Advantage ! |
| 18:24.42 | Pryan | and kevin2 and so one |
| 18:25.00 | Pryan | me not because i dont know how to code drivers |
| 18:25.18 | Pryan | but testing is ok for me |
| 18:27.26 | dcordes | Pryan, mobilize other advante people with programming skills |
| 18:28.52 | Pryan | i already try it |
| 18:28.59 | Pryan | but nobody wants |
| 18:29.10 | Pryan | i know code C a bit |
| 18:30.52 | Pryan | "[T]he Linux kernel community is offering all companies free Linux driver development... All that is needed is some kind of specification that describes how your device works, or the email address of an engineer that is willing to answer questions every once in a while. If your company is worried about NDA issues surrounding your device's specifications, we have arranged a program... in order to properly assure that all needed NDA requirem |
| 18:31.00 | Pryan | HTC is stupid |
| 18:31.22 | Pryan | but they have sayd that offers linux compatibility |
| 18:31.54 | Pryan | here you can find some coders |
| 18:32.07 | Pryan | on Linux kernel comunity |
| 18:32.52 | dcordes | you have to show more patience or get a device which is already supported. But best would be to contribute |
| 18:35.27 | Pryan | i have sent an email |
| 18:35.40 | Pryan | lets see if he answers me |
| 18:36.22 | Pryan | i want linux NOW hahahaha |
| 18:36.49 | dcordes | bwa-ha-hah-aharrr |
| 18:38.41 | Pryan | gentoo if it is possible |
| 18:39.06 | Pryan | i have gentoo on my desktop and is a great distribution |
| 18:39.20 | Pryan | but for mobile devices im not sure |
| 18:40.17 | Pryan | yeah |
| 18:42.11 | dcordes | Pryan, man you aim high |
| 18:44.10 | Pryan | gentoo is in some mobile devices |
| 18:44.48 | Pryan | http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-518041-postdays-0-postorder-asc-start-0.html?sid=3ae90efbe6ec045e42dcf9175ddd691a |
| 18:45.25 | Pryan | but it need a special FS and a reduced stage4 |
| 18:47.11 | Pryan | please be more quickly in answer because i must to go in 5 minutes |
| 18:48.38 | Pryan | 2 minutes |
| 18:50.42 | Pryan | i must to go, if there is lucky and i have GPRS connection tonight we will speak a bit |
| 18:50.49 | Pryan | see ya |
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| 19:00.32 | dcordes | pH5, can you make a usb driver for htckaiser? |
| 19:00.50 | pH5 | no |
| 19:01.10 | dcordes | do you know what's needed in order to make one? |
| 19:03.33 | pH5 | dcordes: some specs about the usb otg controller integrated on the msm chip |
| 19:04.54 | dcordes | pH5, sounds like I also have to wait for swetland here. Did you follow the last developments about kaiser's display? |
| 19:05.10 | pH5 | dcordes: btw, there is a driver in the msm sources |
| 19:05.18 | dcordes | lol :D |
| 19:05.36 | dcordes | is there also an SD driver? |
| 19:07.05 | pH5 | as far as I am aware, no |
| 19:07.59 | dcordes | ok usb will be ok for now |
| 19:08.18 | dcordes | I will just wait for cr2 to help me with further display stuff |
| 19:09.15 | dcordes | pH5, do you still have our msm tree lying around? |
| 19:09.36 | pH5 | sure |
| 19:10.14 | dcordes | could you give me a complete diff of it? I was thinking about purging mine and gitting the latest version |
| 19:10.44 | dcordes | I did not name any checkins or so. I think it's pretty messy |
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| 19:19.00 | dcordes | I so wonder if swetland is working on SD yet |
| 19:19.28 | Zoolooc | hello folks |
| 19:19.35 | dcordes | hey Zoolooc good news |
| 19:19.46 | Zoolooc | tell |
| 19:20.02 | dcordes | <cr2> dcordes: if you'll convince androids that you need the SD driver then you've won. |
| 19:20.20 | dcordes | <cr2> dcordes: i've found many cpld gpios, and will put the mddi data into wiki. i think the gpio issues can be resolved with some effort. so the biggest remaining issue is the SD driver. |
| 19:20.58 | dcordes | Zoolooc, did you try bluetooth pan networking from kaiser to a linux box? |
| 19:21.30 | Zoolooc | well, sounds good, I'm really glad it's all doable in the end. I'm a bit unhappy I can't afford to put myself some effort into this right now |
| 19:21.48 | dcordes | don't worry |
| 19:22.09 | Zoolooc | no, I only did some contacts and files transfers with other's phones via BT so far |
| 19:23.30 | Zoolooc | dcordes: did I tell you that the kaiser now can be easily connected with the rndis-host driver, did you try? |
| 19:23.33 | dcordes | I tried to pair it with my Zaurus. I offer the connection from kaiser, accept it with "pand" on Zaurus, but after sending the request to kaiser I cannot authenticate becaue kaiser wants to set a password I don't get asked for |
| 19:23.57 | dcordes | Zoolooc, no I didn't yet |
| 19:25.15 | Zoolooc | so how's this story about convincing androids of the necessity of the SD driver? |
| 19:25.25 | dcordes | lol |
| 19:25.27 | dcordes | which story? |
| 19:25.40 | Zoolooc | do they have to be convinced? |
| 19:26.47 | dcordes | yes. |
| 19:27.11 | dcordes | or possibly they don't even work on it yet. who knows? |
| 19:27.21 | Zoolooc | my impression so far is that swetland and his colleagues are doing a good job in cleanly pushing halibut support upstream, maybe we have to be patient a bit right now |
| 19:27.39 | dcordes | do they? Don't know about what they put upstream |
| 19:28.11 | dcordes | that will be ill. Just imagine we can build our kernels directly from the vanilla kernel :D |
| 19:28.29 | Zoolooc | well, from time to time he sends patches for review to the arm kernel ML |
| 19:28.39 | dcordes | let me see |
| 19:29.17 | Zoolooc | so I don't see any reason that we won't do that some day in the not too distant future |
| 19:30.07 | Zoolooc | same happens with an arm9 based Marvell reference board for NAS-es like the Buffalo Linkstation Pro/Live and compatibles |
| 19:31.05 | dcordes | so cool. No hh.org or anything |
| 19:32.08 | dcordes | which does not mean I don't like my kernel from hh.org it's just that upstream is so nice |
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| 19:33.21 | cr2 | dcordes: even zaurus can't do that. |
| 19:34.21 | dcordes | cr2, do you just mean zarus can't do it as a plain for act or rather as in "if zaurus can't do that, kaiser won't be able to do it at all" ? |
| 19:34.55 | dcordes | plain fact |
| 19:36.54 | cr2 | there are just many crappy drivers in hh.org |
| 19:38.31 | pH5 | dcordes: http://en.pastebin.ca/813749 |
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| 19:39.35 | dcordes | pH5, cool thanks. Will I be ok just saving the raw paste and use it as the diff or should I review for errors (I remember the vsfb patch from hh ML we applied) |
| 19:41.11 | pH5 | dcordes: it should apply cleanly with git-apply on top of the msm-2.6.23 branch |
| 19:41.26 | dcordes | ok |
| 19:41.32 | pH5 | I just rebased onto there from master |
| 19:42.47 | dcordes | pH5, do you have any msm based devices there? |
| 19:44.00 | pH5 | no |
| 19:45.20 | dcordes | how are you guys getting on with your own git? |
| 19:51.02 | cr2 | dcordes: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_CPLD |
| 19:51.37 | cr2 | there is some uart and usb confusion between my observations and android code. |
| 19:51.39 | dcordes | cr2, awesome |
| 19:51.53 | cr2 | you shoud try to trace the usb activity. |
| 19:51.58 | dcordes | I still have no clue where you make your observations |
| 19:52.00 | BabelO | cr2: does wince support ipv6 ? |
| 19:52.17 | cr2 | have you found some gpio for usb in/out ? |
| 19:52.26 | cr2 | BabelO: there is an ipv6 dll. |
| 19:52.52 | cr2 | dcordes: check the board id. |
| 19:52.56 | BabelO | cr2: ok, i have not seen it |
| 19:53.20 | dcordes | cr2, wait a second I have to see myself |
| 19:54.30 | dcordes | cr2, I have one irq "15 USB Data activity", gpio 6-2 in "headset button" |
| 19:55.41 | dcordes | but no other gpio related gpio |
| 19:56.05 | dcordes | cr2, pH5 pointed me to the present usb driver in linux-msm |
| 20:02.21 | cr2 | there were some questions about it. |
| 20:05.00 | dcordes | cr2, hm what questions? |
| 20:08.13 | dcordes | further hareet activity required? |
| 20:13.14 | cr2 | yes, look at 0xa9800000 (phys) |
| 20:13.47 | dcordes | addlist mmutrace, wi n ? |
| 20:14.27 | cr2 | yes. |
| 20:14.30 | cr2 | it should be usb. |
| 20:15.08 | dcordes | to make sure again |
| 20:15.20 | dcordes | I have the haretconsole version I pastebined you earlier |
| 20:15.52 | dcordes | plus haret msm#4 from Mr O'Connor's repo |
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| 20:16.13 | dcordes | not version but msm.py |
| 20:16.34 | ymerejt | hi everybody |
| 20:18.13 | BabelO | hi ymerejt |
| 20:18.33 | ymerejt | I have tested suspend on my uni |
| 20:18.47 | ymerejt | I have a little problem when I come back from suspend mode |
| 20:18.55 | ymerejt | GSM doesn't work anymore |
| 20:19.03 | ymerejt | But I think I have a problem with Qtopia |
| 20:19.15 | dcordes | cr2, Ok everything set (just using my current setup) Now how to create usb traffic? Headset btn? |
| 20:19.31 | ymerejt | because it use some entries in /sys that does not exist |
| 20:19.58 | cr2 | ymerejt: look at the ffuart suspend/resume code. maybe the modem is reset, i don#t rememebr. |
| 20:20.24 | cr2 | dcordes: connect to an activesync ? |
| 20:20.31 | ymerejt | yes it tried to reset it using a non-existent /sys entry ;) |
| 20:20.33 | dcordes | have none |
| 20:21.00 | ymerejt | But during suspend mode, GSM part should not be disable |
| 20:21.06 | ymerejt | Why does it need a reset |
| 20:21.28 | ymerejt | I want to get a developpement env for Qtopia |
| 20:21.34 | ymerejt | Any advice to do it |
| 20:21.39 | ymerejt | Is there a SVN access ? |
| 20:21.48 | dcordes | I can probe my /dev/ttyUSB0 |
| 20:21.56 | dcordes | that will have some traffic |
| 20:22.12 | Zoolooc | dcordes: for "AS" you'll need the rndis-host-lite driver pulled from the synce SVN |
| 20:22.15 | ljp | ymerejt: no svn. but in the future we might have git |
| 20:22.33 | dcordes | Zoolooc, can we detail this later? |
| 20:22.35 | cr2 | pH5: i've seen only the MSM-USBH code. is there MSM-USBC driver ? |
| 20:23.08 | pH5 | drivers/usb/function |
| 20:23.14 | dcordes | what I have here ( the ipaq kernel module sufices for plain traffic) |
| 20:23.25 | cr2 | ymerejt: it's some moko-fic specific stuff. |
| 20:23.33 | cr2 | pH5: ok. |
| 20:23.55 | ymerejt | cr2, what ? |
| 20:24.31 | cr2 | pH5: i see different registers... |
| 20:24.36 | dcordes | cr2, when I "cat /dev/ttyUSB0" from the usb host I get "IRQ15(15)=1" |
| 20:24.47 | cr2 | ymerejt: modem control over /sys |
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| 20:25.09 | cr2 | dcordes: then irq15 is USBC irq |
| 20:25.31 | ymerejt | Then why my qtopia uses it ? (QTOPIA_PHONE_VENDOR is set to htcphone) |
| 20:26.03 | cr2 | ymerejt: because this code needs a cleanup. |
| 20:26.14 | cr2 | it's a hack on top of the fic hack. |
| 20:26.27 | ymerejt | cr2, OK I want to work on it |
| 20:26.32 | cr2 | great. |
| 20:26.36 | ymerejt | Any entry point |
| 20:26.43 | dcordes | cr2, when you see my irq list you will noticed I already figured it out on my own (I'm such a genious) |
| 20:26.49 | ymerejt | Which sources should I take ? |
| 20:26.51 | dcordes | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_IRQ |
| 20:26.54 | cr2 | ymerejt: ask BabelO/goxboxlive |
| 20:27.50 | BabelO | ymerejt: you can take qtopia snapshot at qtopia.net website and same for tollchain |
| 20:28.10 | ymerejt | I suppose I have to take the phone edition |
| 20:28.39 | BabelO | ymerejt: yes, i provide you correct link |
| 20:28.48 | ymerejt | thx |
| 20:29.50 | dcordes | cr2, I guessed it when I observed the differrence between plugging in a cable with power only and one with data and power to my hub |
| 20:32.18 | BabelO | ymerejt: qtopia snapshots are here http://ftp.mj2.org/pub/qtopia/snapshots/ (107Mb) and to build it is more easy with this toolchain which embbed prerequies http://www.qtopia.net/modules/mydownloads/visit.php?lid=38 |
| 20:32.49 | dcordes | cr2, how to continue from here? |
| 20:32.56 | dcordes | mddi regs? |
| 20:33.09 | dcordes | or further inquiry |
| 20:33.19 | BabelO | ymerejt: after that two choice for you, create your one device, it can be done just by a cp from devices/ficgta01 and then rename your classes |
| 20:34.04 | ymerejt | and the second choice ? |
| 20:36.01 | BabelO | cr2: what do you know about this message cr2 ? NETDEV WATCHDOG: usb0: transmit timed out |
| 20:36.34 | BabelO | ymerejt: second choice is i send you my curent device tree, it is a small devel for my HTC blueangel |
| 20:37.05 | ymerejt | Maybe a mix from the two should help me |
| 20:37.30 | BabelO | ymerejt: send me a private message with your email and i reply |
| 20:37.58 | cr2 | BabelO: the other usb end does not respond to a packet. |
| 20:38.11 | cr2 | dcordes: yes, i'll add the mddi now. |
| 20:38.43 | BabelO | cr2: it is what i got from artemis after few minutes |
| 20:39.47 | ymerejt | Year, but I need to register before |
| 20:40.45 | BabelO | ymerejt: do you get my private message ? |
| 20:40.50 | ymerejt | Year, |
| 20:40.54 | BabelO | good ;) |
| 20:40.57 | ymerejt | I send u ab email |
| 20:40.59 | ymerejt | ;) |
| 20:42.27 | cr2 | pH5: the android usb code does not match the SPL at all. |
| 20:43.35 | cr2 | dcordes: GPIOD7 0x0080 usb related (puen?) |
| 20:44.01 | cr2 | dcordes: it should be visible if you run 'watch gpios' and connect/disconnect the usb cable. |
| 20:44.08 | dcordes | ok |
| 20:44.49 | dcordes | cr2, need to reboot kaisa |
| 20:52.40 | BabelO | ymerejt: mail sent |
| 20:53.09 | dcordes | cr2, 0-1, 1-5, 1-13 (all in) |
| 20:54.00 | ymerejt | thx |
| 20:54.21 | goxboxlive | BabelO: there? |
| 20:54.30 | BabelO | goxboxlive: yes ;) |
| 20:55.03 | goxboxlive | BabelO: :-) Ready, i have a fresh image, all the tapoica libs are copied in to /opt/Qtopia/lib |
| 20:55.06 | goxboxlive | now what? |
| 20:55.24 | BabelO | goxboxlive: do you install dbus-glib telepathy-gabble ? |
| 20:55.33 | goxboxlive | hold on, i'll do |
| 20:55.36 | cr2 | dcordes: that's what i see http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=KaiserMDDI |
| 20:55.45 | dcordes | cr2, forget about 0-1 |
| 20:56.28 | cr2 | dcordes: so it has nothing in common with android. |
| 20:56.43 | cr2 | the usb client too. |
| 20:57.04 | dcordes | display and usb? |
| 20:57.26 | cr2 | panel mddi init and usb client |
| 20:57.36 | cr2 | we need our own code here. |
| 20:57.58 | goxboxlive | BabelO: i allready have dbus-glib. Now what? Start the binary? |
| 20:58.04 | cr2 | is there some external non-miniUSB connector ? |
| 20:58.12 | dcordes | that sucks. Will we be able tocharge over usb w/o a driver? |
| 20:58.24 | dcordes | hm not that I know of |
| 20:58.25 | BabelO | goxboxlive: first ttry to start telepathy-gabble |
| 20:58.36 | dcordes | gps thingy |
| 20:58.38 | goxboxlive | how? just from the shell? |
| 20:58.49 | BabelO | goxboxlive: yes |
| 20:58.49 | dcordes | gps and gsm antenna |
| 20:59.03 | goxboxlive | libidn.so where missing. I install |
| 20:59.10 | cr2 | dcordes: so no serial. |
| 20:59.18 | dcordes | not that I know of |
| 20:59.23 | cr2 | ok. |
| 20:59.33 | BabelO | goxboxlive: how do you install ? with ipkg ? |
| 20:59.39 | goxboxlive | BabelO: yes |
| 21:00.01 | cr2 | dcordes: so we are stuck for some time. |
| 21:00.26 | dcordes | some time=time until somebody is so kind and makes a display driver? |
| 21:00.33 | goxboxlive | BabelO: i use the priv. as pastebin |
| 21:00.42 | goxboxlive | so we can have the log here for howto |
| 21:01.06 | dcordes | or usb |
| 21:01.07 | BabelO | goxboxlive: ok we finish in pric then |
| 21:04.27 | dcordes | cr2, man I don't wanna be stuck about kaiser :( |
| 21:05.05 | cr2 | dcordes: let's hope the androids will produce something usable, i.e. not halibut :) |
| 21:05.15 | cr2 | they have all the docs after all. |
| 21:05.25 | paulproteus | Hey, look, I have a Universal now. |
| 21:06.06 | dcordes | cr2, you mean wait until they come up with a kernel for an actual phone? |
| 21:06.42 | dcordes | will this get us any further? I think one can assume there won't be a kaiser mach type in their tree at all |
| 21:06.48 | dcordes | that's what I think |
| 21:06.57 | cr2 | dcordes: there are 2 questions for them: 1. when can we hope for an SD driver 2. wtf is USBC different on 7200. |
| 21:07.27 | cr2 | if they'd been nice, they'd have helped us. |
| 21:07.39 | dcordes | you speak in paste |
| 21:07.47 | dcordes | maybe swetland will have a heart for us ^^ |
| 21:07.48 | cr2 | experience shows that the commercial companies are not nice. |
| 21:08.12 | dcordes | ah come on google is an exception there |
| 21:08.33 | cr2 | we will see. |
| 21:09.10 | cr2 | waiting a year for htc producing some kernel code for yet another device is not a good option. |
| 21:10.06 | dcordes | one year is a buzz word that is not good at all in my eyes |
| 21:10.13 | cr2 | check the board_id, let's look at the msm gpio irqs. then we are finished. |
| 21:10.25 | ymerejt | BabelO, when your phone go to suspend mode, can you always receive calls ? |
| 21:10.28 | dcordes | k |
| 21:10.56 | dcordes | man I though the action will just start with my beginning vacation ^^ |
| 21:10.57 | BabelO | ymerejt: yes, but it is Blueangel :) we have wakeup irq :) |
| 21:11.15 | ymerejt | There is no wakeup irq on UNI ? |
| 21:11.45 | dcordes | cr2, how to figure out board_id? |
| 21:13.16 | paulproteus | BTW, do any of these keys on the Universal emit the keycode for Ctrl? |
| 21:14.23 | cr2 | ymerejt: suspend the uni while running haret and tracing the asic3 GPIOB. then call it. |
| 21:14.32 | cr2 | dcordes: pd 0x98000000 4 |
| 21:14.50 | dcordes | 98000000 | ff00ff78 | x... |
| 21:15.46 | ymerejt | cr2, it seems to be a good idea |
| 21:18.16 | cr2 | dcordes: ldrh & f = 8 ? |
| 21:18.34 | dcordes | haret doesn't know ldrh |
| 21:18.45 | dcordes | HaRET(3)# ldrh & f = 8 |
| 21:18.45 | dcordes | Unknown keyword: `ldrh' |
| 21:18.52 | cr2 | dcordes: it's your output :) |
| 21:19.23 | cr2 | so it's 8. |
| 21:19.30 | cr2 | what does the wince log say ? |
| 21:19.44 | dcordes | you mean the haret logs on kaiser? |
| 21:19.57 | cr2 | wince dmesg |
| 21:20.06 | cr2 | which is after the framebuffer |
| 21:20.49 | dcordes | after the framebuffer? |
| 21:20.54 | dcordes | no idea what you mean |
| 21:21.11 | cr2 | the second and third SDRAM megabytes. |
| 21:21.28 | dcordes | how to get them? |
| 21:22.20 | cr2 | pd |
| 21:22.39 | cr2 | sorry, pwf |
| 21:22.56 | cr2 | pwf dmesg 0x10100000 0x200000 |
| 21:23.53 | dcordes | ok where did that go? |
| 21:24.29 | dcordes | ah found it |
| 21:24.45 | ymerejt | cr2, some information about how to trace asic3 GPIOB ? |
| 21:26.18 | dcordes | cr2, ok got it on my box |
| 21:28.16 | cr2 | ymerejt: read this one first http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/ApachePhoneTrace |
| 21:29.42 | dcordes | cr2, you want it? |
| 21:29.57 | cr2 | dcordes: i have one already. |
| 21:30.33 | dcordes | cr2, oh ok |
| 21:30.51 | dcordes | got the info you were looking for? |
| 21:30.58 | cr2 | no. |
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| 21:48.22 | goxboxlive | BabelO: now it works. Big fonts, did you make it specially for cr2 ? |
| 21:48.31 | BabelO | lol |
| 21:48.45 | BabelO | do you set again SIZE and DISPLAY for uni ? |
| 21:49.08 | goxboxlive | BabelO: only in my startup script. Everything where normal now |
| 21:49.17 | goxboxlive | i dint have a jabber account |
| 21:49.23 | goxboxlive | I'll create one |
| 21:49.32 | BabelO | goxboxlive: no use your google account ;) |
| 21:49.48 | goxboxlive | I dont have that option |
| 21:49.57 | BabelO | it is jabber :) |
| 21:50.24 | goxboxlive | :-) |
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| 22:06.04 | dcordes | anything else to do? What about msm gpio irqs? |
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| 23:10.06 | BabelO | cr2 still around ? |
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| 23:33.49 | cr2 | yes |
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| 23:42.44 | BabelO | cr2: i try a lite kernel for artemis |
| 23:46.42 | cr2 | lite ? |
| 23:46.59 | BabelO | with minimum number of option and modules |
| 23:47.20 | BabelO | but still freeze :( it is like if cpu becme very busy |
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| 23:53.48 | paulproteus | The Qtopia CAB seems to install a kernel that depends on the Linux partition on the SD card. |
| 23:53.52 | paulproteus | I'm trying the OpenMoko CAB now. |
| 23:53.53 | cr2 | BabelO: usb freeze or everything freeze ? |
| 23:54.08 | BabelO | cr2: everything |
| 23:54.09 | cr2 | paulproteus: not really. |
| 23:54.20 | cr2 | BabelO: do you have IR ? |
| 23:54.37 | BabelO | cr2: not on artemis :(, just usb |
| 23:54.42 | cr2 | BabelO: what's on the serial ports ? how many serial ports does omap850 have ? 2 ? |
| 23:54.59 | BabelO | it seem three |
| 23:55.01 | cr2 | hmm. sirf3 is on a serial port ? |
| 23:55.11 | BabelO | according to kernel of omap730 |
| 23:55.17 | BabelO | yes it is |
| 23:55.21 | cr2 | bluetooth ? |
| 23:56.37 | BabelO | yes |
| 23:56.54 | BabelO | bluetooth + gps + wifi + fm radio |
| 23:57.10 | cr2 | do you have gps and bt drivers ? |
| 23:57.13 | BabelO | and a trackball , like a mice |
| 23:57.21 | BabelO | yes i have |
| 23:57.31 | cr2 | how is the trackball controlled ? |
| 23:57.45 | BabelO | just gpios |
| 23:57.51 | BabelO | two |
| 23:58.00 | cr2 | ok. |