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00:35.36Pryan2i cAnt sleep
00:47.30paulproteusThe clowns will eat me
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05:11.59paulproteusBoy oh boy.
05:12.06paulproteusTo build nano, I must first compile gcc.
05:47.54elliswaymornin all
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06:02.29paulproteusMornin'.
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06:10.49goxboxlivegood morning
06:13.20elliswaymorning goxboxlive + paulproteus
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06:38.03Pryan2hi
06:39.31Pryan2bad news, the linux kernel doesnt give us support to make drivers if we not have the support of HTC
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06:48.29paulproteusPryan2, Yes, that's what I was saying.
06:48.33paulproteusSad but true.
06:56.02Pryan2i will get in contact with HTC spain and lets see what they said
06:58.14Pryan2from HTC
06:58.31Pryan2i have no response
07:04.43Pryan2paulproteus have this team intented to put in contact with htc
07:05.41paulproteusPryan2, I don't understand your question.
07:06.08Pryan2sorry my english
07:06.32Pryan2intented is try
07:07.09paulproteusPryan2, Are you asking me: "Has the #htc-linux team already tried to contact HTC?"
07:07.20Pryan2yes
07:07.34paulproteusPryan2, I'm new here, but my understanding is that the old-timers here have tried to contact HTC some time ago, discovered it failed, and then decided it was not worth trying again.
07:08.00Pryan2ok
07:08.50Pryan2i will try with spanish people. hahahha
07:09.57Pryan2lets see
07:10.06Pryan2if i got luck
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07:23.30paulproteusPryan2, Yes, I do wish you luck!
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07:37.24Pryan2hehehe
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07:45.37Pryan2paulproteus i will phone in home. because my phone havent enough money
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09:19.50Pryan2paulproteus bad luck, htc doesnt provide this information
09:20.38Pryan2we will make things like as now
09:25.25goxboxliv1am i supriced, nope.
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09:31.25rob_w|laptopdo you guys know how to dump simply all red data to a /dev/fb0 ?
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12:11.08Hymierob_w|laptop: what are you, a communist?!
12:11.58rob_w|laptophehe
12:12.31SmallR2002hehe
12:13.03SmallR2002guys, could i ask you to provide data on HTC devices which use GPS?
12:14.15SmallR2002(i run the linux-gps.org project and i'm trying to get a few other people on board)
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12:54.24kiozenSmallR2002: you miss QLandkarte on your page, that is close to unforgivable ;)
12:54.55SmallR2002have you added it? ;)
12:55.20kiozenno, I don't want to become member in another club
12:56.22SmallR2002?
12:57.50kiozenI hate registering to wikis .. :)
12:58.29SmallR2002right, well stop the chinese spammers who clocked up 200 new pages in ten minutes on another of my wiki's
12:59.16kiozenI know, that is why I ask you to add it
13:01.23SmallR2002what is it? manufacturer?
13:02.08kiozenhttp://qlandkarte.sourceforge.net/
13:02.34kiozenand second project http://qlandkartegt.sourceforge.net/
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13:07.16kiozenSmallR2002: thanks
13:08.11SmallR2002:)
13:08.23SmallR2002just need someone to write a page for it now
13:19.27kiozenSmallR2002: You are here by granted to use any part of this article (if you want): http://www.osgeo.org/files/journal/final_pdfs/OSGeo_vol1_Qlandkarte.pdf
13:19.41SmallR2002thanky :)
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14:04.10Genesisyo thc linux
14:16.25Pryangenesis eres español
14:17.05Genesisnop ; only english and french
14:17.36Pryanahm
14:17.37Pryanok
14:17.43Pryani english and spanish
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15:24.30dcordeshi
15:25.14Pryanhi
15:26.41dcordesthc linux? lol
15:27.02Pryanhahaha
15:27.03dcordesnice one
15:27.09Pryanyeah
15:27.28Pryani have phoned to HTC
15:27.46Pryanand sayd me that i must to speak with Taiwan
15:28.05dcordesPryan, what did you ask them :)
15:29.14Pryani ask for hardware specifications to make drivers on linux
15:29.37dcordesand they said sorry, you need to call htc taiwan customer support?
15:29.46Pryanyes
15:29.52dcordeswell did you?
15:30.00Pryanthey give me a phone number
15:30.16Pryanbut i dont know speak english
15:30.22Pryanonly write
15:30.31Pryanso i ask for an email
15:30.50dcordesuna pena...
15:31.02Pryansabes español ?
15:31.07dcordespoco
15:31.11Pryanahm
15:31.13Pryangenial
15:31.37Pryanpues eso, a ver ke me contestan
15:31.51Pryansi kieres llamar tu al numero de telefono
15:32.32dcordesman how can you speak that colloquial ^^
15:32.45dcordeskieres ^^
15:32.45Pryanjajajaja
15:32.52Pryanquieres
15:33.15dcordesjust give me the number and tell me what you want me to say
15:33.21Pryanok
15:33.29Pryanwait a second
15:33.52Pryan+886-266391147
15:34.18PryanI want the full hardware specifications to make linux kernel drivers
15:34.42Pryansend it to pryan@aureaworld.org
15:34.57dcordeswhat shall I tell them?
15:35.48Pryanthis, they must send all the hardware specifications of the phone model HTC Advantage X7500
15:35.58Pryanto make kernel drivers
15:36.06Pryanthey understand you
15:36.07dcordesok
15:36.21dcordesI will also ask them for qualcomm msm7200 manual.
15:36.32Pryanok, what you want
15:36.44dcordesdon't think I will get one though
15:36.55dcordesbbiab
15:38.08Pryanah, and they must give you an email direction for future referencesç
15:38.27Pryanto ask for more model phones
15:44.21Pryansayd that the linux kernel team will make the drivers, so it will be integrated into the kernel for future devices they want to make
15:50.04Pryandcordes how's going
15:51.45dcordesPryan, I thought about it
15:52.02dcordesI don't think it will work...
15:52.10dcordeswill be a waste of money
15:52.34Pryanbah, i have call but dont understand nothing
15:52.52Pryandcordes try it
15:53.10Pryanif you dont try you never know if it will work
15:54.12dcordestrue but I fear this call will be like 10 euros or so
15:55.20Pryanim calling
15:55.33dcordesok good luck
15:56.16Pryani dont know
15:56.38Pryanthey are hang down me
15:56.50Pryanand dont know why
15:57.58Pryanthere is a 1 minute call
15:58.36dcordeshm?
15:58.50dcordesyou waited one minute in line and they hung up?
16:06.57Pryanno, they said me things
16:07.07Pryanin english and in taiwan
16:07.49dcordeshm so no luck. Hope it was not that expensive. Anyway they wouldn't have given you anything
16:08.00Pryani have called to HTC spain but they sayd me that i must use the contact form
16:08.06Pryanof the webpage
16:08.38Pryanthey have sayd me that taiwan offices are closed
16:08.58Pryanso for this they hang up me
16:09.04dcordesI did that... no reply
16:12.35paulproteusSmallR2002, re: Chinese spammers: Use the recaptcha.net plugin for MW and you don't have the spam problem.
16:18.54Pryani am sending them an email directly to asia
16:19.05Pryanso lets see if they respond
16:19.14Pryanrespond = answer
16:19.20Pryansorry
16:19.21PryanxD
16:25.01Pryanemail sent
16:25.19Pryanlet's see if they answer and what they answer
16:25.42SmallR2002paulproteus, i just make people register, seems to work just as well ;)
16:26.13paulproteusSmallR2002, We had some bots that registered on our wiki, though, at wiki.freeculture.org.
16:26.35paulproteusSmallR2002, The recaptcha approach is, "If you add a new external link, you mus pass a captcha".
16:26.49paulproteusThat way we controlled spammers who posted links but put no limits on people who didn't add links.
16:26.55SmallR2002these spammers weren't adding external links
16:27.07paulproteusOh, what on earth were they doing then?
16:27.09SmallR2002they were just spamming bad keywords
16:27.18SmallR2002like, google rating bad, like child porn bad
16:28.42paulproteusI guess you erased the old wiki where this happend?
16:28.52paulproteusI'm looking for it in your http://www.linux-gps.org/index.php5?title=Special:Recentchanges&days=30&limit=500 but can't see it.
16:29.38SmallR2002different wiki
16:29.51SmallR2002and i think i ended up dropping the database and starting again with a register only
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16:30.18SmallR2002that one must have hundreds of edits from me today :p
16:32.44paulproteusYes, indeed (-:
16:42.03kiozencr2: some fun to play with in the QLandkarteM repository :) use +/- and arrow keys on the PC
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17:15.47Pryanhi
17:32.09dcordescr2, heard anything from Harald yet?
17:52.23Pryani'm dreaming with advantage with gentoo and qtopia
17:57.43dcordesPryan,  http://img136.imageshack.us/my.php?image=openmokotoday2kaiserld0.png
17:58.31Pryanhahhaah
17:58.37Pryannot bad
17:58.51Pryanfor user usage ?
17:59.07dcordesit's gimped
18:00.00Pryanahm
18:00.23dcordes:P
18:03.11Pryani am like malcom X
18:03.21Pryani have a dream last night
18:03.27Pryani'm dreaming with advantage with gentoo and qtopia
18:03.29PryanxD
18:05.11Pryani have read docs and looks easy
18:05.48dcordesmaybe looks!=is
18:06.27Pryanyeah
18:06.43Pryaninstalled on an SD card
18:10.20Pryanbooting with linexec or haret
18:10.55dcordesbbl
18:11.31Pryanyeah, it sounds great
18:11.34PryanxD
18:18.12Pryani havent experimented a lot with haret
18:18.26Pryanonly for gpios extraction
18:18.40Pryanbut looks a great bootloader
18:19.04Pryanalthough linexec it's more easy
18:19.50dcordesPryan, you really should care about experimenting with it before you dream around like malcolm. Do you know what information is available yet about your device? Do you know what can be done? Do you know where do find information on how to use haret??
18:21.05Pryani'm trying to get information from HTC, the information from enginering gots cr2
18:22.46Pryanwhat can be done, with drivers it could be done quasi-everithing
18:22.53dcordesPryan, forget the information from htc part
18:23.07dcordesit's impossible for you to get such info from them
18:23.33Pryanpshe
18:23.53Pryanthen we depende of the work of cr2 and kevin2
18:26.00Pryani hope it's quickiest possible
18:26.17Pryanbut they do it for entretainement
18:26.42Pryanalthough is a pay-cause
18:26.46dcordesPryan, asking all 2 minutes does not help anybody. Try to contribute.
18:27.02dcordesare you aware of what can be done in your situation?
18:27.13Pryantesting
18:27.55Pryanand i have not money to buy a cable, usb pendrive, bluetooth keyboard
18:28.27Pryanso i am waiting they get the driver for the keyboard and for the SD card
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18:37.21MichouXhey
18:37.32LaF0rgehi
18:37.44Pryanho
18:37.56dcordes~hail LaF0rge
18:37.57aptACTION bows down to LaF0rge and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!"
18:38.05dcordesnice to see you here
18:38.21MichouXI would like to know if the htc BA work fine on linux (gsm + apm)
18:38.41Pryanwhat is BA ?
18:39.09dcordesit is htcblueangel
18:39.56dcordesMichouX, just give it a shot http://www.linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcblueangel/
18:40.11dcordesI cannot tell you which of the images there is the most useful since I do not own BA
18:40.27Pryanahm ok
18:41.56Pryanwhat is apm ?
18:43.06dcordespower manager.
18:43.18MichouXPryan: power management (suspend with gsm wakup)
18:43.42Pryanahm ok
18:44.14Pryanyes, apm in linux is this
18:44.20dcordes?
18:44.43Pryanadvanced power management
18:44.50dcordesrright
18:45.01dcordesbbl people. bye
18:45.08Pryanbye dcordes
18:45.29Pryani have write to mobilinux, it's the best distribution
18:45.32Genesisbye
18:45.46Pryanbut once time more i have no response
18:46.31MichouXis the ATI chip used on linux ?
18:46.40MichouXon the htc BA
18:47.01dcordesPryan, once again you should show a bit patience or rather contribution until your device works before you think too big!!
18:47.37Pryanhey, if i buy mobilinux i put it to all the comunity
18:48.00Pryanit supports pxa270
18:48.15Pryanbut dont know if the kernel supports hardware
18:48.21Pryani think not
18:48.35Pryanbecause HTC is a very special phone
18:48.40dcordes-_-
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18:55.27PryanVendor Board Name Architecture Processor Edition Availability
18:55.27PryanIntelMainstone PXA27XXscalePXA27xMobilinux 4.1Available
18:55.46Pryanit is available for this board
18:55.53Pryanbut for htc not
18:56.06Pryanbut it is a great distribution
18:56.13Pryanmobilinux 5
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19:26.37cr2hi
19:28.46goxboxlivehi cr2
19:30.17Pryanhi cr2
19:30.28Pryani inform you
19:30.59Pryanthe developers doesnt want to work without the support of HTC
19:31.23cr2not surprising
19:31.27Pryanso i ask to HTC-Asia that send us the hardware especifications
19:31.38cr2they will not
19:31.48Pryanand there's no response yet
19:32.14Pryani have called HTC spain and said that i must call HTC-Asia
19:32.55cr2these people are bent on the "intellectual property". you are wasting your time preaching to them.
19:33.09Pryanbleh
19:33.48Pryani am searching to install gentoo and qtopia
19:33.55cr2i'm still optimistic.
19:33.56Pryanlooks fine
19:34.08cr2well, that't independent of the kernel anyway.
19:34.24Pryanoptimistic for what ?
19:35.31cr2kernel development
19:35.36Pryanahm
19:35.55Pryanyeah, who is on the development ?
19:35.58cr2to adapt qtopia is not such a big deal.
19:36.14Pryanme because dont know to code drivers
19:38.07cr2Kevin2 and me.
19:38.42Pryanuf
19:38.58Pryanand you doesnt work so much
19:39.19Pryanor yes
19:40.39cr2i work so much that i'm doing something for moving linux forward on these devices. my job has nothing to do with cellphones, kernel programming and hardware reverse engineering ;-)
19:41.45Pryanaham
19:41.51Pryani must to go
19:42.00Pryanwe'll be in contact
19:42.35Pryanhow you go with the drivers ?
19:42.43Pryankeyboard and SD
19:43.02Pryanonce you get these 2 drivers i can start to work
19:43.27PryanGSM/GPRS would be great, more than wifi
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19:44.02cr2i'm not going to do anything with the keyboard driver, because Kevin2 does it.
19:44.12cr2the SD is not yet working.
19:44.38goxboxlive:-)
19:45.09Pryanok, when you stimate keyboard and SD will be done ?
19:45.47cr2GSM command channel needs more documentation, but i think sending commands is not very difficult.
19:46.16cr2no idea, i'll be away for the Christmas week.
19:46.23Pryanok
19:46.33Pryanwell, bye
19:46.36Pryansee ya
19:46.37cr2bye
19:47.31goxboxliveguess what i am doing cr2. Iam again building a new Qtopia image :-)
19:47.48goxboxlivehave to see if there are any changes from yesterdays source :-)
19:48.05cr2goxboxlive: latest snapshot ?
19:48.10goxboxliveyes
19:48.19goxboxlive20071214
19:48.21cr2put a doc somewhere, i may try it too.
19:48.23cr2ok.
19:48.32goxboxlivea doc how?
19:48.37goxboxliveWhat do you want?
19:48.43cr2to compile qtopia.
19:48.44goxboxlivethe device folder?
19:48.59goxboxliveok, that's easy. Get the Qtopia toolchain
19:49.43cr2oe ?
19:49.58cr2btw, how do i enable gcc-4.2.1 ?
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19:54.45goxboxlivecr2: not oe, forget about it. The Qtopia ficphone toolchain includes all depedencies. Here is the link to get it. It must be extracted and run from it's destination path (/opt/Qtopia/blabla
19:55.13goxboxlivecr2: http://qtopia.net/downloads/neo/arm920t-eabi-ficgta01-toolchain.tgz
19:56.02goxboxliveI can send you my ficphone device folder if you like. Together with two files i have edited in the source.
19:56.20paulproteusAnd I guess that toolchain works for our HTC phones too?
19:56.26goxboxliveone for let it compile, the other one for letting the phone connect to network
19:56.35goxboxliveyep
19:56.47paulproteusgoxboxlive, Hey, I might like these patches too. (-:
19:56.48goxboxlivepaulproteus: where do you live?
19:57.00goxboxlivepaulproteus: it will cost you.
19:57.17paulproteus...?
19:57.26paulproteusSan Francisco, USA, anyway.
19:57.57goxboxliveok, so thats why you go to bed when i am getting at work
19:58.08paulproteusYeah, it's kind of a drag.
19:58.13goxboxlive:-)
20:00.53goxboxlivepaulproteus: do you have sunny weather over ther now?
20:01.27paulproteusgoxboxlive, Pretty sunny, although it's cool (say 10-15 C) outside.
20:01.48kiozencool, bah
20:02.04kiozensun always shines in souther California
20:02.06goxboxlive:-) up here, we have now -8C
20:02.10goxboxliveit's cold
20:02.27kiozenI miss the winter in SF
20:02.29goxboxlivekiozen: where are u from?
20:02.38kiozenoriginally munich
20:02.42kiozennow regensburg
20:02.50kiozenbut spent a year in SF :)
20:02.57paulproteuskiozen, Well, it's northern California.
20:03.02goxboxliveok, been there, even regensburg. :-)
20:03.05paulproteusI'm sure it's nice and 25C in southern Calif. (-:
20:03.22kiozenweather in SF was good enought for me :)
20:03.51goxboxlivei guess it would have been for me to. I am not spoiled when it comes to weather :-)
20:03.52cr2hi kiozen
20:03.52kiozenit's just my wifes "fault" that I did not end up there
20:03.54kiozenhi
20:04.03cr2lol
20:04.19goxboxlive:-)
20:04.43cr2kiozen: why didn't you run latex for the second time in the paper ? to resolve the references.
20:04.52kiozencr2: some eye candy http://qlandkartegt.sourceforge.net/shot.png
20:05.08kiozenI wasn't rendered by me
20:05.22kiozenit's from a bigger journal
20:05.29cr2ok.
20:05.35cr2nice screenshot :)
20:05.48cr2i'll update from CVS
20:05.55kiozenit loox even nicer on the Loox
20:06.39cr2you have used qt4 for wince ?
20:06.54kiozennot yet, got better things to do ;)
20:07.11cr2ok.
20:07.15kiozenwho wants to support wince?!
20:07.57cr2on the loox ? i thought it crashes on boot.
20:08.14kiozenon 75% of the tries
20:08.27kiozenbut with patience I can use the other 25%
20:08.41cr2hm. ok.
20:08.53kiozenI hate race conditions
20:09.26cr2i think we should do the following. you may send it to me in january, it'll save a lot of time.
20:09.40kiozenthat's what I thought
20:09.56cr2ok.
20:10.13kiozenqtopia is great I can develop the stuff on the pc without troubles
20:10.27kiozenand then switch to qtopia
20:10.55cr2yes, if you don't use nonportable features.
20:11.15kiozendon't think so, no windows api here...
20:11.36cr2i think we should do a critical review some time soon.
20:11.46cr2qsplitter ? qfiledialog ?
20:11.52kiozennope
20:12.32kiozenI keep an eye on the way Garmin does it,
20:12.36kiozenjust better
20:13.05cr2:)
20:13.30cr2will you support an overlay layer ?
20:13.37cr2vector overlay.
20:13.47cr2for waypoints and such.
20:13.52kiozensure
20:14.15kiozenI try to stick to modularity this time, promised
20:14.26kiozenhate to d the same errors twice
20:14.57cr2ok.
20:15.21kiozenbut with the first try I had to cut edges, else this thing never would have seen the light of day
20:16.01kiozenlike many other projects of mine :)
20:16.04cr2i think it's no problem.
20:16.22kiozenfor Garmin devices it's enought :)
20:16.24cr2M says 'Bad position format...."
20:16.33kiozen???
20:16.51cr2at startup.
20:17.07cr2and "no map". how do i select the map ?
20:17.48kiozenit's still hardcoded to the one I sent to you
20:18.39kiozenthe map as to be in the current working dir
20:18.47cr2ok, from which directory should i start it ?
20:18.49cr2ok.
20:19.08kiozenwe are not that far yet :)
20:20.27cr2the arrow buttons work :)
20:20.58kiozenand what about +/-
20:21.38cr2yes, that works too :)
20:21.46kiozenyou can edit screen size in 'common'
20:22.05cr2the picture is shifted by half-screen at scroll ?
20:22.51kiozenno, 1.5* 2/5
20:22.54kiozen:)
20:22.57cr2lol, it's already better than qpegps :)
20:22.59cr2funny.
20:23.35cr2i'm only wondering what'll happen on the GK zone border ?
20:23.45kiozennothing
20:23.47cr2or at 180° with Mercator.
20:24.00cr2nothing ?
20:24.17cr2ah, ok.
20:24.25kiozenthe grid lines will rotate at the border
20:24.31cr2but then you can't draw 2 zones simultaneously.
20:24.42kiozenthe complete map spans 3 zones
20:25.03kiozenthe left and right one are rotated.
20:25.19cr2hmm. now i'm confused.
20:25.37cr2do you rotate the pixmap ?
20:25.44kiozenme too in the beginning, remember my questions?
20:26.02cr2yes.
20:26.04kiozenwait I create a subset to show you...
20:26.21cr2maybe you'd add the grid lines as an overlay.
20:26.37cr2like ozi does it
20:26.47cr2then it'll be more clear what's going one.
20:30.00kiozenI mailed you a small subset at E012°
20:30.25kiozenlook at the grid lines painted in the map
20:30.34kiozenyou will see the rotation
20:30.37cr2ok.
20:30.46kiozenthe right zone is n-s
20:30.52cr2btw, what do you think about this one http://maps.poehali.org/en/
20:30.54kiozenthe left zone is rotated
20:31.17cr2got the email.
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20:34.58kiozencr2: nice site, but it lacks details, I am spoiled by 1:10000
20:35.25cr2ok.
20:36.18cr2now i get it.
20:36.41cr2btw, why do the grids to not match at the crossing points ?
20:37.19kiozenI guess the equation for projection is not linear
20:37.34kiozenbut gdal makes you lazy :)
20:38.25kiozenthe best part is that the LVA codes the maps in GK4 but provides the reference point in GK3
20:39.10kiozentook me quit some emails with a kind soul we don't mention to find out :)
20:40.07cr2yes, that's something missing in gdal.
20:40.26kiozenin other words it's easier to get internal information from a LVA than form HTC
20:40.55cr2when the GCP projection does not match the map projection, you need to resort to some hacks.
20:41.05cr2that's for sure.
20:41.27kiozenno, you just have to zone shift the reference point
20:41.42kiozenI couldn't find out if this is a bug or a feature
20:42.09kiozenmpr2gtiff will do it for you :)+
20:42.32cr2a nice program.
20:42.55kiozencompiles even for windows :P
20:43.08cr2hehe. now i only need the ozi .map parser for using it with gdal.
20:44.03kiozenyou can write a filter :)
20:44.53cr2yes.
20:44.59kiozenno, they call it driver
20:45.17cr2imho it's a very valuably contribution :)
20:45.30cr2s/bly/ble/
20:45.35cr2heh.
20:45.49kiozenhow does this apt thing work?
20:46.31kiozenis there a FAQ, <blush>
20:48.15cr2hm. the poehali.org maps are GK, but are clipped by the lat/long rectangle. that'll be PITA to clip properly.
20:48.35cr2btw, do you support transparency ?
20:48.44kiozen??
20:49.00cr2afair tiff spec does not include it, but there are some tag hacks.
20:49.57kiozenthe color map I build for qt has an alpha channel
20:50.10kiozenI used it once to try some stuff
20:50.23kiozenthus you could sekect one color as transoarent
20:50.36kiozens/transoarent/transparent
20:52.59ymerejthi everybody b
20:53.13kiozenhi
20:53.22ymerejtI have successfully instrumented my WM during an incoming call on suspend mode
20:53.29ymerejtI got the irq call list
20:53.48ymerejtBut I need some help to use it in the best way
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21:07.18ymerejtcr2, could you help me ?
21:09.30cr2kiozen: are you enforcing something  concerting the palettes ?
21:09.46cr2ymerejt: yes, do you have a gpio log ?
21:09.58ymerejtof course
21:10.28kiozencr2: nope, just copy the gtiff pallet and add an alpha channel with value 255 to each entry
21:11.06cr2but what happens if 2 files have different palettes ?
21:11.23kiozenkaboom!
21:11.27cr2ymerejt: can you pastebin it ?
21:11.34kiozenno, wait that will work
21:11.35ymerejtdump gpio : http://pastebin.ca/816557
21:11.49cr2kiozen: ok, so the files need to be preprocessed anyway.
21:12.02kiozeneach file is rendered in it's own context
21:12.12kiozenwell as preprocessed as gtiff is
21:12.40ymerejtdump asic3gpio : http://pastebin.ca/816559
21:12.48cr2kiozen: hmm. ok, that's optimization anyway.
21:13.00cr2ymerejt: no, i mean the haret trace log
21:13.05ymerejtthe WM seems to be wakeup on gpio 14
21:13.25cr2gpio14 is the ASIC3 mux irq
21:13.40cr2you need to find the exact asic3 irq/gpio pin
21:14.17cr2ymerejt: look at the "sleep" column
21:14.20cr2http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=UniversalASIC3
21:14.33cr21 means "masked" while sleep
21:14.33ymerejthttp://pastebin.ca/816565
21:15.01cr2so, imho, only B3 and B12 are modem-related.
21:15.33ymerejtB12 is night sensor
21:15.37cr2ymerejt: yes, in the "standard" trace you see only the gpio14, that's the problem.
21:15.50cr2GPIOB12   0x1000   GSM ready (DCD)   I1   RE   -   0   0
21:16.14cr2so, actually, i think it's B3
21:16.17cr2but.
21:16.35ymerejtI have tried to request_irq on B3 and my kernel hang
21:16.55cr2B3 has some (pseudo-)periodic activity even when not sleeping.
21:17.03cr2did you set it's as input ?
21:17.19ymerejtyes
21:17.40cr2some drivers are a bit sloppy when it comes to setting gpio directions.
21:17.41cr2hmm.
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21:18.04Pryan2hi
21:18.22cr2we have some general asic3 irq setup problem.
21:18.39ymerejtI will redo some tests because I have tested too many things
21:18.48Pryan2wow
21:18.49ymerejtI will retry the B3 irq_request
21:18.49cr2the ts not working when wifi is up at boot, like goxboxlive says is probably linked to it.
21:19.27cr2Pryan: you got the full factory docs from htc ? :)
21:19.41cr2Pryan2: you got the full factory docs from htc ? :)
21:20.53Pryan2nope
21:21.11Pryan2they havent answered me
21:21.48Pryan2motherfuckers
21:21.55Pryan2muahahaha
21:21.59cr2lol
21:22.18cr2ymerejt: btw, the B3 if not a RE/FE irq in wince.
21:23.32ymerejtyeah
21:23.32cr2which is a bit strange. that's why i'd like to see a real-life wakeup trace.
21:23.56ymerejthttp://pastebin.ca/816565
21:23.58cr2i rememebr the B7 activity on call events
21:24.27cr2ymerejt: mask the OST. it's useless spam.
21:24.47cr2USBc is useless too.
21:25.10ymerejtyeah
21:25.21ymerejtbut grep -v will do it
21:25.28cr2gpio13 is the SD card, we know how to deal with it already.
21:26.15cr2we need to demux the gpio14
21:26.22ymerejtB7 is not irq requested on VM like B3
21:26.29cr2so you should update to the latest haret
21:26.37cr2and do 'addlist irqs'
21:26.50cr2for the B IntStat register
21:27.43cr2<PROTECTED>
21:28.31cr2on universal it's virtual  0xa9200092
21:29.28cr2you may add the GPIOB_Status   +0x0130   +0x098   Read here
21:29.32cr2to the gpio list
21:29.52cr2addlist gpios 0xa9200098
21:30.08cr2and then use 'watch gpios 60' or something like that.
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21:33.08zsircusr2hhahah
21:35.52cr2ymerejt: i'll try it myself too.
21:36.01ymerejt???
21:36.06cr2but not the wakeup.
21:36.13cr2only the gpioB tracing.
21:36.42cr2btw, we power the LCD, bt and wifi with the asic3 .init bits
21:36.46cr2which is not good.
21:36.57ymerejtyeah
21:37.13cr2because the LCD, BT and wifi drivers can take care of these bits themself.
21:37.30ymerejtIf you can make a haret script it would be great to share it
21:37.45cr2but then you need to teach haret to shutdown LCD,bt and wifi.
21:37.59cr2it knows how to do it for LCD, but not the BKL, bt and wifi.
21:38.39cr2the BT,wifi, IR and so on controls are included in gnu-haret
21:38.59ymerejtI use it too
21:38.59cr2but i still can't dedicate some time to port them over.
21:39.09ymerejtbut there is no addlist commadn
21:39.15goxboxlive(this is music for my eyes, at last there is some developing on universal again )
21:39.41cr2ymerejt: yes, it's the main haret command.
21:40.12ymerejtWhen can you do this test ?
21:40.26cr2goxboxlive: you could have done the tracing yourself :)
21:40.40cr2ymerejt: i'll try the asic3 gpio tracing right now.
21:40.52ymerejtI have do it
21:40.57ymerejtI have a log somewhere
21:41.06cr2ok.
21:41.35cr2i've added the all asic3 regs, but was spammed by the charger w1 irqs.
21:45.06ymerejthttp://pastebin.ca/816617
21:45.21ymerejtthe bb ready seems to happen when the phone starts ringinh
21:45.23ymerejtringing
21:46.15Pryan3wow,
21:46.52Pryan2hahha. too many pryans
21:47.21cr2ymerejt: mask the LCD pins, and I2C. you don't want this junk.
21:47.22Pryan2if you want some testing with haret i have gnuharet
21:48.29cr2ymerejt: 58-77
21:48.47cr2what was the "new" mask syntax ?
21:49.12cr2ibit gpios 58..77
21:49.13cr2?
21:49.37ymerejtBut there is not ibit command on the gnu-pxa haret ...
21:49.51ymerejtand I need it to catch asic gpio
21:49.56cr2set ii(N) 1
21:50.09cr2for each N
21:50.16cr2add it to the default.txt
21:50.23cr2and run it before tracing.
21:51.05cr2that' why we need to port the gnu-haret functions to mainline.
21:51.11cr2to avoid the confusion.
21:53.56cr2aah.
21:54.02cr2115 is LCD pwm.
21:55.40ymerejtI just add it to the list ;)
21:56.03cr2pure spam :)
21:58.02ymerejtI will make a test without suspend it should be enough
21:58.35cr2lol
21:58.40cr2002.575    GPIOS  a9200098(547 563)=beebbeeb
21:59.47ymerejt;)
22:00.53cr2Kevin2: are you here ?
22:01.44cr2ymerejt: it goes like that:
22:01.47cr2058.639    GPIOS    GPLR3: GPIO110(110)=0
22:01.47cr2058.645    GPIOS  a9200098(544 560)=bee3bee3
22:01.48cr2058.649    GPIOS    GPLR3: GPIO110(110)=1
22:01.48cr2058.680    GPIOS  a9200098(547 563)=beebbeeb
22:01.48cr2058.687    GPIOS  a9200098(547 563)=bee3bee3
22:01.48cr2059.378    GPIOS  a9200098(544 560)=bee2bee2
22:02.41cr2there is this AT command related GPIO110 0/1 where you get the B0- BB ready response and the B3
22:03.48ymerejtset ii(115) 1 does not work for me on my gnu-pxa haret version
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22:06.34cr2hmm. there may be some offset...
22:06.53cr2when you run 'wi 2' what do you get ?
22:07.59ymerejtI have found set IGPIO N 1
22:07.59ymerejt;)
22:08.13cr2ah.
22:08.29cr2yes, ii is for the interrupts.
22:10.30ymerejtwithout any call I have it :
22:10.32ymerejtGPIO110 S 0 3974766
22:10.32ymerejtGPIOB0 S 1 BB_READY 3974772
22:10.32ymerejtGPIO110 S 1 3974809
22:10.33ymerejtGPIOB0 S 0 BB_READY 3975505
22:10.49cr2Kevin2: i see a bug in the ASIC3 .py decoder. it does not account for the .bus_shift ?
22:11.15cr2ymerejt: yes. do you see the GPIOB3 too ?
22:11.30ymerejtno
22:12.31cr2switch off the phone modem, run the trace and switch on the modem
22:12.36ymerejtGPIOB3 S 1 phone unk? 4106084
22:12.36ymerejtGPIOB3 S 0 phone unk? 4106278
22:12.58cr2yes, that's what i mean.
22:13.16ymerejtSo it should be GPIOB3
22:14.22ymerejtBut WM does not use it as an irq
22:16.23Pryan2slowly we are having all the specifications
22:25.46cr2ymerejt: i think it may be more productive to look at nk.exe and rilgsm in the long run.
22:32.25ymerejtI have successfully catch the B3 GPIO on my linux and a quick test demonstrate that my phone resume on incoming calls ! ;)
22:34.46ymerejtcr2, there is good news I think you should read the line above
22:37.36ymerejtcr2, I have to clean my code
22:43.59ymerejteverybody sleeping ???
22:45.19Pryan2nope
22:51.27Pryan2ymerejt do you will code or only supporting ?
22:57.09ymerejtcoding
22:57.28ymerejtI want my fresh new phone perfectly working under Linux
22:57.35cr2:)
22:57.37cr2nice.
22:57.41Pryan2hehhehe
22:57.52Pryan2what phone is ?
22:57.55cr2ymerejt: the serial port handler needs some real cleanup.
22:57.57ymerejthtc universal
22:58.03Pryan2work in athena
22:58.10Pryan2hehhe
22:58.24cr2Pryan: athena has a quite different phone setup.
22:58.37cr2but it may be even easier because of that.
22:58.44Pryan2yes
22:58.51Pryan2and is better
22:58.57cr2the wakeup irq on athena is know, and all other per-channel irqs.
22:59.09cr2it's more fast and more simple.
23:00.02cr2ymerejt: what are you doing with the B3 irq in non-suspend mode ?
23:00.06Pryan2lets do first athena
23:00.16Pryan2and then do universal
23:00.33ymerejtcr2, nothing
23:00.38cr2Pryan: why don't you want to buy the usb cable ?
23:00.58ymerejtI just have bind the B3 irq to a "printk" function
23:00.59cr2Pryan2: usb host +TV cable.
23:01.20cr2ymerejt: ok.
23:01.32Pryan2i havent money
23:01.45Pryan2and prefer the sd card
23:01.46ymerejtcr2, why ?
23:02.00Pryan2its most universal
23:02.01cr2Pryan2: if you have money for athena, the 20€ usb host cable is peanuts.
23:02.24Pryan2you only chbange the kernel
23:02.33cr2and it adds endless capabilities to athena.
23:02.59Pryan2cr2 but now i havent money to b uy cable and pendrfive
23:03.28Pryan2and i havent bluetooth keyboard
23:03.32cr2ymerejt: it seems to me that we need some closer and more synchronized interaction between the kernel and qtopia for the phone/sound.
23:03.41cr2Pryan: i use usb keyboard.
23:04.04ymerejtcr2, I'm agree with
23:04.09cr2Pryan2: ok, nobody want to count money in others pocket.
23:04.27ymerejtBut before all, I wanted the suspend/resume work on incoming calls
23:04.38ymerejtNow, I will work on good Linux distribution.
23:04.49ymerejtnot work but installed
23:05.16Pryan2if you work on athena i will work on putting gentoo
23:05.34cr2ymerejt: we have a lot of kernel functions that actually work, but are not requested by the qtopia.
23:06.05ymerejtAnd I want to work on the qtopia and kernel interaction
23:06.06cr2Pryan2: can you explain me why gentoo is useful on athena ? and what does it have to do with the phone ?
23:06.18Pryan2i willl put gentoo + qtopia
23:06.27ymerejtMy priority was to have a really working phone
23:06.29ymerejt;)
23:06.41Pryan2its the best distribution
23:06.57cr2Pryan2: what for ? you already have angsrom.
23:07.15cr2maybe, but i have nothing to do with the phone operation itself.
23:07.24cr2s/ i / it/
23:08.00Pryan2for thbis is qtopia
23:08.17cr2ymerejt: we need to have some custom tree for qtopia addons and the kernel patches.
23:08.52cr2ymerejt: usually i put all the patches to hh.org CVS as a central place
23:09.19Pryan2when the work is done i will .study it
23:09.19cr2and we certainly need to qualcomm qtopia plugin.
23:09.36ymerejtcr2, I'm ok for all
23:09.39Pryan2i have low battery
23:09.46ymerejtBut can we discuss about this tomorrow ?
23:10.07ymerejtI need to sleep ;)
23:10.19cr2ymerejt: ok. create the kernel patches in any case :)
23:10.22cr2good night.
23:10.31ymerejtthx
23:10.36Pryan2see ya
23:12.21Pryan2cr2 gentoo its powerfull
23:12.31Pryan2its the best
23:12.44Pryan2for everytbhing
23:14.08Pryan2low batt
23:15.58cr2Pryan2: you should differentiate between the kernel and the applications.
23:16.24cr2the kernel does not depend on the gentoo/debian/whatever,
23:16.39cr2while the real phone application is qtopia.
23:16.50cr2well, openmoko comes to mind too.
23:16.50Pryan2i know
23:17.13cr2so what is gentoo for you then ?
23:17.21cr2startup scripts ?
23:17.28cr2package manager ?
23:17.42Pryan2we could use kernel+gentoo+qtopia
23:18.00Pryan2yes, for all this and more
23:18.04cr2well, i understand what is kernel, and what is qtopia.
23:18.14cr2what exactly is gentoo in this sum ?
23:18.36Pryan2www.gentoo.org
23:18.50Pryan2its a distribution
23:19.01Pryan2manage packages
23:19.12Pryan2have a compilator
23:19.22Pryan2and so one
23:20.03Pryan2it compiles packages
23:20.31Pryan2so we could get the poerfull of 624Mhz
23:21.01cr2ok, then i do not see any big difference between gentoo and OE.
23:21.33Pryan2maybe
23:21.45Pryan2i. dont see oe
23:21.55*** join/#htc-linux MichouX (n=guest@mir31-3-82-234-54-233.fbx.proxad.net)
23:22.34MichouXhey, I am looking for a qtopia device profile for htc blueangel...
23:22.38Pryan2oe is ....
23:23.25Pryan2to search in google
23:25.49*** join/#htc-linux Pryan2 (n=Pryan@217.168.1.174)
23:25.58Pryan2wb
23:29.25cr2MichouX: what is device profile ?
23:32.22MichouXit can help you to easily build qtopia for a specific device
23:32.47MichouXhttp://doc.trolltech.com/qtopia4.3/buildsystem/over-device-profiles-1.html
23:33.58MichouXI bought a qtek9090 the evening... and I prepare his arrived
23:34.47cr2MichouX: there is already some custom BA code, but afaik it segfautls in the process.
23:35.10cr2MichouX: ask BabelO when he will appear.
23:36.14MichouXcr2: oki thx

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