| 00:01.21 | paulproteus | AlGe, Okay, but I have to run for now; let's talk in a few hours or tomorrow (-: |
| 00:01.44 | dcordes | paulproteus, cya |
| 00:02.33 | AlGe | see you tomorrow (or at least on weekend) |
| 00:09.03 | AlGe | good night all |
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| 00:39.50 | dcordes_ | Kevin2, also we cannot access the memory addresses for UARTs mentioned in http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=KaiserMemoryMap |
| 00:43.32 | dcordes_ | Kevin2, same applies to usb |
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| 09:40.31 | goxboxlive | good modning |
| 09:40.38 | goxboxlive | morning |
| 09:43.03 | ellisway | morning goxboxlive |
| 09:43.17 | goxboxlive | hi, any luck with your modem yet? |
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| 09:46.13 | ellisway | only if i connect to it using cu first |
| 09:46.47 | ellisway | but i havn`t been able to work out exactly what part of the process it is that allows it to woork |
| 09:47.56 | goxboxlive | have you tested openmoko? |
| 09:48.18 | ellisway | not the latest rls |
| 09:48.28 | ellisway | but the 1 before worked ok |
| 09:48.30 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 09:48.56 | ellisway | although the display was often spammed by tbhe connected to gsm messages |
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| 10:00.06 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 10:02.42 | ellisway | ok just tried qtopia again |
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| 10:03.14 | ellisway | but the device locked up before qtopia itself had finished loading |
| 10:03.27 | ellisway | found the gsm network |
| 10:03.43 | ellisway | but got stuck saying no voip network |
| 10:04.28 | ellisway | and the device wouldn`t respond to anycommandsd example i ssh in but then any cmd i run kills the session |
| 10:04.42 | ellisway | reminds me of a old bug from bash |
| 10:05.01 | ellisway | where the consoile would be compleatly deadlocked |
| 10:06.09 | bernt__ | do you use a SD-Card with more than 1 GB? |
| 10:07.40 | ellisway | currently its on a 2gb card |
| 10:13.47 | bernt__ | For the first try with linux, I used also a 2 GB Card -> nearly the same result as you have. But now I use a 1GB Card and get gpe working. |
| 10:14.19 | ellisway | just booted again this time its fine |
| 10:14.57 | ellisway | will keep the size of the sd card in mind will probably move 2 a 1gb card |
| 10:15.08 | bernt__ | where did you download the qtopia-image? |
| 10:17.41 | ellisway | its 1 of goxboxlive`s images |
| 10:17.47 | ellisway | hosted on linuxtogo |
| 10:20.32 | ellisway | hmm goxboxlive in your current image is it possible to get audio alerts ? |
| 10:20.43 | ellisway | when phone rings for example |
| 10:21.07 | ellisway | also notice somthing else weird |
| 10:21.43 | ellisway | in contacts although it shows the sim contacts the names are show as what looks like some kind of hex string |
| 10:22.26 | ellisway | but i`m sure i`ve seen it in the past show the contact names of sim contacts correctly |
| 10:22.54 | goxboxlive | ellisway: Does it work now? Was it the GB sd card that caused thie? |
| 10:22.57 | goxboxlive | this |
| 10:23.14 | ellisway | still on the 2gb card |
| 10:23.41 | goxboxlive | if mediaplayer ins included system sound isent working, if it isent included system sound should work |
| 10:23.44 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 10:23.45 | ellisway | but this time after running cu and then starting qtopia it didn`t freeze and the network is being found |
| 10:24.11 | ellisway | looks like media player is included |
| 10:24.28 | goxboxlive | ellisway: you should not run cu before you start qtopia |
| 10:24.29 | ellisway | also the only commands i used inside of cu was ate1 and atv1 |
| 10:24.34 | goxboxlive | ok, then syste sound doesnt work. |
| 10:24.47 | ellisway | after that i ~. out of cu then start qtopia |
| 10:25.14 | ellisway | without running cu it doesn`t pick up the modem correctly |
| 10:25.34 | ellisway | gives the device in a locked state with the no network message |
| 10:25.57 | ellisway | i`m gonna shut down the device and copy the linux image to a 1gb sdcard |
| 10:31.29 | ellisway | what work needs to be done to get the media player and the system sounds working just out of intrest |
| 10:41.56 | ellisway | ok rebooting linux from a 1gb card now |
| 10:43.39 | ellisway | ok qtopia started ok |
| 10:44.03 | ellisway | but is in the locked state with no network |
| 10:44.12 | ellisway | gonna try a restart of qtopia |
| 10:44.36 | ellisway | but i dont think it will pick up the modem unless i connect to it with cu first |
| 10:46.40 | ellisway | intresting this time my device has locked up during the qtopia restart |
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| 10:47.56 | AlGe | hi, |
| 10:47.56 | AlGe | does anybody know the correct irattach command to start IrDA on a BA? irattach /dev/ttyS2 gives a kernel oops only (http://pastebin.com/m78fbb72e) |
| 11:09.13 | bernt__ | I get opie to boot (1 GB Card), but what is with the message no modem? -- gpe does not have this problem. |
| 11:12.28 | ellisway | gpe doesnt have phone support if i remember correctly |
| 11:12.45 | ellisway | openmoko and qtopia both have phone support |
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| 11:18.54 | bernt__ | I use the Angstrom-HTC_BlueAngel-Roadmap-4.3.0.tar.bz2 and the other files from http://www.linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcblueangel/O.P.I.E-II/ but I have no idea how to get the phon to make a telephone call. |
| 11:20.22 | bernt__ | when I used gpe, I started the telephone application and it was ok. |
| 11:29.51 | goxboxlive | bernt__: BA hasent modem support in Qtopia yet |
| 11:34.29 | bernt__ | This means, the only possibility to make a voice call with Qtopia is voip? |
| 11:38.10 | AlGe | ellisway: at least gomunicator works in gpe |
| 11:46.44 | bernt__ | But is there a possibility to have an acustic alarm, for an incoming call with gomunicator -- the rest seems ok? |
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| 11:59.12 | AlGe | yes, gomunicator rings (dont know how to change that ring tone, it is a very annoying one). |
| 11:59.12 | AlGe | but look at my mixer note yesterday, gomunicator doesnt work correctly without. and it has to be started before the call comes in. |
| 12:13.14 | AlGe | BabelO mentioned yesterday an alternative hw keyboard driver for BA from Kevin2, can anybody help me with some hint where to find it? |
| 12:33.08 | goxboxlive | I have noticed that we have similar problem with the Neo1973 regrding the modem issue. Sometimes it doesnt connect and the lock phone is showing. |
| 12:33.22 | goxboxlive | SO i guess it's not only a htc universal issue. |
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| 12:48.41 | bernt__ | On one openmoko list I've seen somebody running openmoko on the blueangel -- But don't find a link for downloading an image |
| 12:48.56 | bernt__ | that would runn on blueangel. |
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| 13:18.58 | Pryan | hi |
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| 15:52.43 | paulproteus | ellisway, Morning. |
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| 15:55.02 | *** topic/#htc-linux is HTC Linux Channel: Find logs at http://apt.rikers.org/%23htc-linux/ | please check http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HTC_2dPhones | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Xanadux | <cr2> let's define a common setup. |
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| 16:09.33 | paulproteus | goxboxlive, Morn'. |
| 16:22.05 | Kevin2 | AlGe: git.linuxtogo.org |
| 16:46.19 | bernt__ | Has someone tried the angstrom distribution? |
| 16:46.41 | bernt__ | I have donwloaded an image from http://www.algepop.net/users/alge/angstrom-ba/images.old/htcblueangel/ |
| 16:46.59 | bernt__ | (Angstrom-gpe-image-glibc-ipk-2007.9-test-20071201-htcblueangel.rootfs.tar) |
| 16:47.48 | bernt__ | but I dont get the touchscreen to work, only input with the keybord of the blueangel |
| 16:48.59 | bernt__ | is there an older image known to work? |
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| 16:53.36 | dcordes | Kevin2, ping |
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| 17:02.57 | ymerejt | good evening everybody |
| 17:03.08 | paulproteus | Good morning, ymerejt! |
| 17:03.21 | paulproteus | ymerejt, Did you see my notes that I'm working on moving to git instead of svn? |
| 17:03.31 | paulproteus | Maybe I can convince you to move with me, so I don't have to manually import your changes. (-: |
| 17:04.27 | paulproteus | http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/Qtopia |
| 17:05.01 | ymerejt | paulproteus, I didn't read your notes ... and I haven't receive them too ... |
| 17:05.11 | paulproteus | ymerejt, I was posting to a bunch of email lists. |
| 17:05.19 | paulproteus | Just read the above link first. |
| 17:06.44 | ymerejt | paulproteus, interresting link ... I will take a look tomorrow. Actualy I don't have time and I have to go .... ;) |
| 17:06.49 | paulproteus | Okay, ttyl! |
| 17:07.22 | ymerejt | paulproteus, See you tomorrow. |
| 17:07.35 | ymerejt | paulproteus, I need a good git howto ... |
| 17:07.38 | ymerejt | good bye ! |
| 17:07.46 | paulproteus | ymerejt, I wrote a git HOWTO there (-: |
| 17:07.50 | paulproteus | Bye! |
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| 17:12.55 | paulproteus | AlGe, You missed this: |
| 17:12.56 | paulproteus | <Kevin2> AlGe: git.linuxtogo.org |
| 17:15.15 | AlGe | bernt__: my images.old - images were not working well (because I over-modularized my kernel), I will move working images into this place soon. |
| 17:15.41 | AlGe | paulptoeus: thanks will lokk at it |
| 17:17.19 | bernt__ | Alge: ok ;-) |
| 17:29.42 | paulproteus | Kevin2, Are you related to the git hosting on linuxtogo? |
| 17:41.28 | paulproteus | BTW, does anyone know anything about the "ACCESS Linux Platform" and if it's available Freely? |
| 17:41.36 | paulproteus | http://www.access-company.com/products/linux/alp.html is a marketing URL. |
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| 17:57.16 | AlGe | bernt__: new images are there (http://www.algepop.net/users/alge/angstrom-ba/images). |
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| 18:18.57 | bernt__ | AlGe: downloaded, now booting ... |
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| 18:24.37 | x_bruno_ | hi |
| 18:24.57 | x_bruno_ | does anyone know how to send at commands to the gsm processor |
| 18:25.02 | paulproteus | hi |
| 18:25.09 | paulproteus | You can use 'cu'. |
| 18:25.16 | paulproteus | The OpenMoko wiki has instructions actually. |
| 18:25.22 | x_bruno_ | that is a funny name in my language |
| 18:25.33 | x_bruno_ | but direcly from the phone? |
| 18:25.43 | paulproteus | Why is 'cu' funny? (-: |
| 18:25.51 | x_bruno_ | it means butt |
| 18:25.56 | paulproteus | Awesome (-: |
| 18:26.17 | x_bruno_ | is cu a ppc app |
| 18:26.23 | paulproteus | No, Linux. |
| 18:26.33 | paulproteus | I don't know about Windows. |
| 18:26.42 | paulproteus | Others may! |
| 18:26.51 | x_bruno_ | the only issue is that I need a cable for it, my cable is very far away |
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| 18:27.39 | x_bruno_ | so there is no way of forwarding comm1 ? |
| 18:28.02 | x_bruno_ | that way i could use pocket putty |
| 18:29.36 | x_bruno_ | in haret you can use local host for telnet |
| 18:30.20 | dcordes | we need linux on there |
| 18:33.25 | paulproteus | AlG1, Hey, does http://www.algepop.net/users/alge/angstrom-ba/images/htcblueangel/ mean you can write to the BA flash? |
| 18:39.05 | AlG1 | no, its just the result of "bitbake gpe-image", I think it generates the jffs2 image just by default without caring about its usefulness |
| 18:39.05 | AlG1 | only the tar file and the kernel can be used. |
| 18:39.24 | paulproteus | Oh, well. |
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| 18:43.02 | Kevin2 | dcordes: pong |
| 18:43.36 | Kevin2 | paulproteus: Yes. I have write access to the mobile-linux git repo on linuxtogo.org |
| 18:44.01 | paulproteus | Do you have permission to grant permission to others, also? |
| 18:44.09 | paulproteus | Sounds like AlGe would be well-served to maintain a branch there. |
| 18:46.05 | Kevin2 | paulproteus: Contributors should start by sending patches to mobile-linux-discuss@linuxtogo.org -- regular contributors will be given direct write access. (Yes, I can grant write access.) |
| 18:46.49 | paulproteus | Wouldn't it be easiest if you just granted write access willy-nilly but told people to stay in their own branches until they were approved to edit other branches? |
| 18:47.55 | goxboxlive | paulproteus: why cant i have several devices in my git tree? WHen i choose openezx it removes htcuniversal |
| 18:48.09 | goxboxlive | I think htcuniversal and other devices should be the same branch |
| 18:48.34 | paulproteus | goxboxlive, Okay, I guess. I just fear that people may make radical changes in one branch that would break another phone. |
| 18:48.47 | goxboxlive | Since alot of us builds for several devices and with common branch we dont have to have severeal git trees |
| 18:49.07 | goxboxlive | paulproteus: no, they should not be able to edit the qtopie source |
| 18:49.12 | Kevin2 | paulproteus: That's pretty progressive. Shrug - I'd like to see some regular activity before opening the repo up to people. In any case, anyone with a linuxtogo.org account can create their own repos, so there isn't anything special about using the mobile-linux repo. |
| 18:49.14 | goxboxlive | only devices |
| 18:49.45 | paulproteus | goxboxlive, It's easy to switch which branch you're on - just "git checkout $branchname" |
| 18:50.10 | paulproteus | Maybe we could have an "all experimental devices" branch, I just fear people committing stuff that fixes their phone but breaks others'. |
| 18:50.19 | goxboxlive | yes i know, but then my then my changes in the other branch disapear, wouldnt they |
| 18:50.49 | goxboxlive | i have to upload to save the changes right? It's not allways i want to do that. |
| 18:51.03 | paulproteus | goxboxlive, You can make local commits to each local branch. |
| 18:51.30 | paulproteus | Also goxboxlive, it's easy to push your local branches to be remote branches so others can see your work, but not modify the main branches. |
| 18:51.35 | paulproteus | i.e., publish your in-progress work. |
| 18:52.00 | paulproteus | Kevin2, Okay, interesting. How does one get a linuxtogo account? I suppose the website may answer that. |
| 18:52.30 | paulproteus | goxboxlive, BTW, my Qtopia build is >600M, and yours is ca. 64M. |
| 18:52.47 | goxboxlive | ?? |
| 18:52.48 | paulproteus | You seem not to have included the .moc/ and .obj/ and .pch/ directories. |
| 18:53.55 | goxboxlive | why shoudl they be added? They create them self when starting to configure |
| 18:55.34 | paulproteus | I don't know, but 'make install' put them in my build/image/ directory. |
| 18:56.16 | paulproteus | Uh, wait, no it didn't. |
| 18:56.23 | paulproteus | Hold on, I must have done something wrong. (-: |
| 19:26.20 | dcordes | Kevin2, did you see my message about kaiser memory mapping? |
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| 19:58.14 | goxboxlive | paulproteus: make install IMAGE=/WHERE EVER YOU WANT IT TO INSTALL PATH :-) |
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| 21:40.57 | paulproteus | goxboxlive, Got it - I'm running my own Qtopia build now that has the media player. (-: |
| 21:42.42 | goxboxlive | good , does the phone ring as well? |
| 21:42.55 | paulproteus | Oh, good question. |
| 21:43.08 | paulproteus | I have to help my brother make his Mii on the Wii now... |
| 21:43.59 | Kevin2 | dcordes: No, I don't recall seeing it. |
| 21:44.58 | dcordes | Kevin2, we have problems reading the memory regions of uart |
| 21:45.35 | dcordes | I suspect there is something wrong in regs_msm |
| 21:45.38 | dcordes | also uart irq is not showing |
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| 21:48.59 | Kevin2 | dcordes: What kind of problems are you having reading the uart? |
| 21:49.12 | dcordes | iirc I get exception |
| 21:49.24 | Kevin2 | Also, regs_msm just changes physical addresses to names - it wont alter the fundamental behavior of haret. |
| 21:50.22 | dcordes | oh I see |
| 21:50.38 | Kevin2 | dcordes: There is not much I can say about the exceptions -- the processor is throwing the exception on the memory access. We don't have docs on the processor, so I don't know why it is throwing them. |
| 21:50.40 | dcordes | I will retry and give you a more exact report of what seems wrong |
| 21:51.01 | dcordes | throwing possibly because of read protected regions? |
| 21:51.05 | dcordes | x_bruce said this |
| 21:52.02 | Kevin2 | dcordes: Possibly - again, I can't say for sure because we don't have docs. |
| 21:52.31 | Kevin2 | If you're feeling brave, you can overwrite the mmu table, flush the tlbs, and then try reading the memory areas. |
| 21:53.05 | dcordes | what is mmu table again? |
| 21:53.20 | Kevin2 | dcordes: Use wikipedia. |
| 21:54.25 | dcordes | ok memory management unit. |
| 21:54.51 | Kevin2 | Also, as for the uart irqs - I put the known irq sources into haret. There are probably other irq registers (such as those reporting the uart irq) that are unknown and thus not getting reported. To see what registers haret does know about, run "show irqs". |
| 21:59.35 | dcordes | ah ok and I guess we got those from cr2 who got them from the linux-msm git tree |
| 22:00.32 | Kevin2 | I think cr2 got them from disassembling the wince code. |
| 22:00.37 | dcordes | oh ok |
| 22:00.45 | Kevin2 | bbl |
| 22:00.51 | dcordes | bye |
| 22:19.59 | paulproteus | Speaking of which, /me misses cr2. |
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| 23:24.20 | miknix | hello all |
| 23:28.18 | miknix | I'm trying to use existent linux-2.6.16 (currently booting and working) HTC Wizard machine start code with latest snapshot of linux-omap branch |
| 23:29.17 | miknix | latest kernel has set a different MACH_TYPE for HTC WIZARD |
| 23:29.33 | miknix | I've updated all references to it |
| 23:30.09 | miknix | and in HaRET I'm booting with SET MTYPE as the new MACH number |
| 23:30.37 | miknix | although, linux doesn't even get executed and dies |
| 23:30.49 | miknix | what am I missing? |