| 00:06.20 | BabelO | good night |
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| 01:49.13 | dcordes | cr2, 2 new gpios: 1-5, 1-12 on usb charger plugin |
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| 06:18.16 | goxboxlive | good morning |
| 06:20.07 | paulproteus | Evenin'. |
| 06:21.07 | goxboxlive | have you made the TRAC yet? |
| 06:22.00 | paulproteus | Geez! |
| 06:25.48 | goxboxlive | paulproteus: what? |
| 06:26.05 | goxboxlive | Is it a lot of work to make it? |
| 06:26.21 | paulproteus | Not really, I guess. |
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| 06:26.35 | paulproteus | It's just that ymerejt only asked a few hours ago, practically. |
| 06:26.49 | paulproteus | I have to do other things, too, like buy some new juggling balls. |
| 06:28.30 | paulproteus | In one day, let's say. (-: |
| 06:28.35 | goxboxlive | paulproteus: :-) |
| 06:31.25 | paulproteus | I wonder if the Trolltech guys have some code they don't want to share and that's why they broke the snapshots. (-; |
| 06:31.47 | goxboxlive | paulproteus: yes i guess they have. |
| 06:32.12 | goxboxlive | is it still down? |
| 06:32.35 | paulproteus | ftp://ftp.trolltech.com/qtopia/snapshots ! |
| 06:32.41 | paulproteus | There's a new snapshot we can't access. (-: |
| 06:34.59 | goxboxlive | hmm strange |
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| 08:39.56 | kiozen | morning BabelO |
| 08:47.51 | BabelO | morning kiozen :) |
| 09:09.49 | kiozen | cr2: ? |
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| 10:10.17 | cr2 | hi kiozen |
| 10:10.24 | kiozen | hi cr2 |
| 10:11.27 | kiozen | cr2: setting up the qtopia emulator has reached a quite stabel and workable state |
| 10:12.19 | kiozen | cr2: thus I could develop without the device for some time, now. |
| 10:12.56 | kiozen | cr2: Thus if you wnat to have it I can send it to you |
| 10:13.59 | cr2 | kiozen: ok, i'll send you the address |
| 10:18.06 | kiozen | cr2: thanks, hope that produces some progress. Else I really have to try qtopa for wince :) |
| 10:20.04 | paulproteus | goxboxlive, cr2, others: re: Universal: http://blog.haerwu.biz/2008/01/07/how-to-replace-zaurus-pda/ |
| 10:22.05 | cr2 | kiozen: sent |
| 10:22.57 | kiozen | cr2: received, I will ship it the next days |
| 10:23.36 | cr2 | ok, it will certainly make many things easier |
| 10:26.18 | kiozen | cr2: searching bugs without being able to reproduce them sucks. I tried once with QLandkarte (and it still has problems to upload the Topo USA ) |
| 10:32.11 | cr2 | paulproteus: the answer to his question is obvious. and it should be trivial for him to fix the g3 driver if he really wants to boot from flash. |
| 10:33.57 | cr2 | paulproteus: actually it's the old moko vs. uni discussion. |
| 10:34.17 | paulproteus | cr2, The answer is "obviously" Uni? |
| 10:34.42 | paulproteus | Also, someone here told me my 2.x bootloader meant I have a G4 flash. |
| 10:34.55 | cr2 | yes, but it's a "politically incorrect" answer for him :) |
| 10:35.00 | paulproteus | So he may end up with a G4 flash also. |
| 10:35.33 | cr2 | the g3 vs g4 raw access differences are marginal. |
| 10:36.04 | paulproteus | Oh, okay. |
| 10:36.19 | cr2 | i'm not taking about a full block-dev driver. |
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| 13:38.26 | goxboxlive | hi BabelO |
| 13:38.49 | goxboxlive | Gstreamer isent nice to me. It just wouldnt build in Qtopia |
| 13:39.35 | goxboxlive | I have added openssl though. But i have no idea if it works or not since the build breaks when creating gstreamer. |
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| 15:45.52 | kiozen | anyone got a table of the symbol names on a keyboard? |
| 15:47.30 | Foxdie | is www.asciichart.com what you're after? |
| 15:47.35 | Foxdie | or www.asciitable.com |
| 15:47.36 | Foxdie | its one of the two |
| 15:53.13 | cr2 | kiozen: it's toolkit-dependent. |
| 15:53.20 | cr2 | X11/keysymdef.h is an example. |
| 15:53.44 | kiozen | cr2: no, I mean the names in plain English |
| 15:53.59 | kiozen | eg. how is that called : | |
| 15:54.20 | Foxdie | what symbol in particular kiozen? |
| 15:54.41 | kiozen | cr2: all :) |
| 15:57.42 | kiozen | oops sorry I meant Foxdie |
| 15:58.27 | Foxdie | lol |
| 15:58.45 | Foxdie | here you go |
| 15:58.49 | Foxdie | http://www.ascii.cl/htmlcodes.htm |
| 15:59.32 | cr2 | kiozen: man keymaps |
| 16:00.35 | kiozen | thanks Foxdie, that is a real nice table, I will change our internal bookmarks :) |
| 16:01.04 | kiozen | cr2: no it's more like the link from Foxdie ;) |
| 16:02.42 | cr2 | ok. |
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| 16:48.18 | dcordes | hi |
| 16:53.29 | goxboxlive | hi dcordes |
| 17:12.11 | kiozen | bbl |
| 17:16.00 | ellisway | hi all |
| 17:23.42 | dcordes | hi ellisway |
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| 17:39.14 | diogene31 | Hello. Does anybody experience resume problems in pxa2x_udc driver as I do (msleep in resume!) ? |
| 18:35.35 | goxboxlive | BabelO: i am fighting with gstreamer. |
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| 19:38.05 | cr2 | kiozen: from 'man gdalwarp' |
| 19:38.08 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:38.08 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:39.08 | cr2 | this is the most close option i can see |
| 19:42.04 | goxboxlive | BabelO: do you know what causing this? http://pastebin.no/3061 |
| 19:44.25 | pH5 | goxboxlive: looks like somebody forgot to link with libglib-2.0 |
| 19:45.09 | goxboxlive | pH5: ok, thx |
| 19:46.46 | BabelO | hi |
| 19:50.28 | goxboxlive | hi BabelO |
| 19:53.55 | BabelO | hi goxboxlive, do you have some feedback about my app ? |
| 19:57.25 | dcordes | cr2, any news on dmov/dma? |
| 19:57.56 | goxboxlive | BabelO: i havent uploaded it yet |
| 19:58.27 | goxboxlive | I havent made any image. No, hold on, i have uploaded it i think |
| 19:58.52 | BabelO | goxboxlive: it is in your latest image, it is why i ask |
| 19:59.09 | goxboxlive | I havent got any feedback about it. The only feedback i get is that " Why doesnt Qtopia have a terminal" |
| 19:59.36 | goxboxlive | BabelO: have you ever tried to build Qtopia with gstreamer? |
| 19:59.46 | BabelO | lol, i know about this one, very strange requirement ;) |
| 20:00.29 | BabelO | goxboxlive: no, and don t want to try, bad experience with gstreamer on my desktop already |
| 20:00.55 | goxboxlive | BabelO: Why, i am using mplayer on my desktop |
| 20:01.03 | goxboxlive | is gstreamer slow? |
| 20:01.55 | BabelO | goxboxlive: never try enough, it seem it is a good equivalent to lib xine |
| 20:03.21 | cr2 | dcordes: no. do you have the android git link somewhere around ? |
| 20:04.06 | cr2 | goxboxlive: i've seen your post to the moko list in its archive. why don't you have a map and the button pixmaps ? |
| 20:04.17 | cr2 | goxboxlive: on the screenshots |
| 20:06.08 | goxboxlive | cr2: The maps isent working. You know that, i showed you the bug. I asked you to make me a new one, and you said you wanted to talk to tsdogs first |
| 20:06.15 | goxboxlive | WHat is the button pixmap? |
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| 20:09.11 | cr2 | goxboxlive: D L G + |
| 20:09.56 | cr2 | should be replaced with pixmaps. if they are found in /opt/Qtopia/... |
| 20:10.17 | cr2 | ok, so this was the mainline version |
| 20:11.03 | goxboxlive | yes, but i have the same problem with the xanadux version. It gives me the same error |
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| 20:13.55 | cr2 | goxboxlive: then you must have a very old version |
| 20:14.09 | goxboxlive | cr2: maps, yes they are old |
| 20:14.15 | goxboxlive | i have the date, hold on |
| 20:14.26 | cr2 | goxboxlive: the only problem that i have with the mainline code is that it can't render the polygons. |
| 20:14.32 | cr2 | lakes/forests |
| 20:14.53 | goxboxlive | cr2: 20th June |
| 20:14.54 | cr2 | goxboxlive: i'll convert the OSM map of Oslo. |
| 20:14.59 | goxboxlive | thx |
| 20:15.18 | cr2 | hmm. where did i have the numbers... |
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| 20:29.54 | BabelO | pH5: did you see that hx4700.c send a asic3 reset in map_io function ? |
| 20:32.13 | pH5 | BabelO: no. which tree? |
| 20:33.34 | BabelO | pH5: it is in hh tree function hx4700_init() |
| 20:35.55 | pH5 | uh, I'm stupid. yes I see. that should probably be in asic3_base, not in hx4700.c :) |
| 20:36.36 | BabelO | pH5: ok it is called two times then, i ll look in asic3_base |
| 20:38.34 | pH5 | what could be the asic3 reset gpio on blueangel? 12? 61? 62? 73? |
| 20:40.09 | BabelO | pH5: i did not see it in the wiki :( |
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| 20:41.45 | AlGe | Hi, |
| 20:41.45 | AlGe | I'm still testing the phone functions of my BA, I noticed that sometomes output sound quality is very bad, it seems it is nice when callig from the linux-BA, but bad when calling into the linux-BA. |
| 20:41.45 | AlGe | Has anyone similar experiences? (the other end of the call is my other BA running wm2003) |
| 20:42.02 | pH5 | me neither. and I couldn't find it in the bootloader either. the code that checks the bootloader buttons on reset at least just reads the gpio regs without pulling any reset gpio first |
| 20:42.05 | bernt_ | pH5: Is the reset key connected to asic3 or is it a real reset pin of the processor? |
| 20:42.41 | pH5 | bernt_: not the reset key. the reset pin of the asic3. on hx4700 it is connected to a pxa gpio. |
| 20:42.54 | pH5 | the reset key is connected to the pxa reset pin |
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| 20:53.28 | cr2 | pH5: if there is an asic3 reset gpio, then it's in the BL. |
| 20:54.27 | pH5 | oh my. I guess I have to take apart the hx4700 bootloader too, to see how it looks like. |
| 20:54.46 | pH5 | I was just looking for the asic3 gpio setup functions and scanning around udelays. |
| 20:55.35 | pH5 | otoh maybe asic3 reset is not connected on BA. are we sure the asic3 silicon is the same on all devices? |
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| 21:04.00 | cr2 | pH5: try to look before the initial asic3 gpio direction setup |
| 21:04.19 | cr2 | it reminded me that there is something like that on universal too. |
| 21:04.34 | cr2 | it's not the same. |
| 21:04.43 | cr2 | there are -00 and -01 versions |
| 21:05.19 | cr2 | but i doubt that they have different reset pins. |
| 21:16.28 | pH5 | cr2: the very first thing it does to asic3 is set up GPIOC_OUT and GPIOC_DIR and then pull up gpio 20 (and check if gpio 9 is high) and then pull down gpio 20 for a while (and check if gpio 9 low, too) |
| 21:20.00 | pH5 | anyway, if the bootloader resets asic3, we don't have to do it anymore. and if it doesn't, we probably won't have to do it either? |
| 21:21.30 | cr2 | i'll look at my wiki notes |
| 21:21.52 | cr2 | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BlueangelGPIO |
| 21:21.58 | pH5 | the BA wiki thinks out20 is sound related |
| 21:22.36 | cr2 | that probably means i've seen it in the wavedev.dll disassembly. |
| 21:23.44 | cr2 | gpio9 is probably the serial cable insertion detect irq. |
| 21:24.02 | pH5 | oh. wavedev.dll is strange. on magician I first thought the flash vpp was car kit related because of wavedev.dll. |
| 21:24.24 | pH5 | cr2: so maybe this is not asic3 setup but just uses asic3 to check for some htc debug peripheral |
| 21:24.48 | cr2 | it's unlikely that BL will deal with sound. |
| 21:25.10 | pH5 | serial power and usb pullup are on gpioc |
| 21:25.41 | cr2 | it's an irq. |
| 21:26.03 | pH5 | let's see... |
| 21:26.07 | pH5 | ASIC3_GPIOC_OUT = 6c0 |
| 21:26.17 | pH5 | ASIC3_GPIOC_DIR = fff7 |
| 21:26.43 | cr2 | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BlueangelConnector |
| 21:26.51 | cr2 | hmm. where did i put it.. |
| 21:27.02 | pH5 | that turns on serial power, disables usb |
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| 21:27.23 | BabelO | cr2: what you need ? |
| 21:27.42 | pH5 | and the lower two bits are camera reset and SPI_CS? |
| 21:27.50 | cr2 | BabelO: do you have the serial cable ? |
| 21:28.02 | BabelO | cr2: no :( |
| 21:28.10 | cr2 | pH5: btw, i have hima/ba serial gps cable. |
| 21:28.33 | pH5 | then gpio9 and gpio20 are both serial port related |
| 21:28.45 | BabelO | i ve connector schematic somewhere |
| 21:28.45 | cr2 | the receiver is dead, but the power/link cable is here. |
| 21:29.00 | cr2 | hmm. i need to check wavedev.dll again. |
| 21:29.17 | pH5 | I can look where this leads some time, but it's not asic3 reset. At least the asic3 gpio block doesn't need to be reset in any way. |
| 21:29.50 | cr2 | ok. |
| 21:30.09 | cr2 | i don't see ak4641 reset on universal too. |
| 21:30.16 | cr2 | while it's there on hx4700 |
| 21:30.54 | BabelO | where is the sdg bootloader ? |
| 21:31.27 | cr2 | pH5: 'sound related' may be in reality 'docking station' related. |
| 21:31.45 | cr2 | BabelO: i had it somewhere on my disk. |
| 21:31.49 | BabelO | pH5: i like your htc-boot code, understand what you do, but not understand the 0x value you send sometime :( |
| 21:31.56 | pH5 | BabelO: http://www.sdgsystems.com/pub/ipaq/hx4700/src/bootldr-1.2.5.tgz |
| 21:32.09 | BabelO | pH5: thanks |
| 21:32.30 | cr2 | http://www.sdgsystems.com/pub/ipaq/hx4700/src/ |
| 21:32.44 | pH5 | BabelO: if you tell me which value you mean, I'll try to explain |
| 21:33.16 | cr2 | BabelO: i don't understand their w32x0 gpio manupulations. |
| 21:34.12 | pH5 | cr2: did you look at the w32x reset code in the BL? |
| 21:35.24 | cr2 | not really. |
| 21:35.38 | cr2 | cp15 did it. |
| 21:35.53 | cr2 | lol. /* Hardware Protect. Not sure what this is. */ |
| 21:36.23 | pH5 | hehe. this comment has to be be _really_ old. |
| 21:36.32 | BabelO | pH5: in the case MACH_BLUEANGEL , from where 0x90032bec is comming ? |
| 21:37.33 | pH5 | BabelO: that's in the bootloader command table |
| 21:37.46 | pH5 | the BL is copied to ram at 0x90030000 |
| 21:38.23 | pH5 | at offset +0x2bec there is the pointer to the function that is called when you enter the "prouter" command in the bootloader cmdline |
| 21:38.39 | pH5 | (0x90039ab4 originally) |
| 21:39.00 | cr2 | pH5: you don't use ramboot ? |
| 21:39.07 | pH5 | I overwrite that value with my own address later in ram and load my code there. |
| 21:39.15 | BabelO | pH5: ok, ah ah i understand better now :) |
| 21:39.37 | pH5 | cr2: ahem :) no |
| 21:40.14 | cr2 | ok. |
| 21:40.37 | cr2 | amazing. it was working on my half-dead uni. |
| 21:42.37 | cr2 | the bootldr hx4700 source deserves a prize for code uglyness ;) |
| 21:43.17 | pH5 | yeah. the asm code is the most readable part in there |
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| 21:45.28 | BabelO | there is code to initialize ATI Device |
| 21:47.42 | cr2 | BabelO: but it's raw binary |
| 21:48.03 | cr2 | the PLL registers are not commented |
| 21:48.24 | cr2 | and that's exactly the part which needs many changes on ba/hima |
| 21:48.46 | BabelO | cr2: where are hx4700 memory maps ? |
| 21:48.56 | cr2 | ? |
| 21:49.33 | pH5 | BabelO: http://rafb.net/p/bSLAbm90.html that's the ati init sequence from the BL |
| 21:50.21 | cr2 | pH5: it's much longer in lcd-hx4700.c |
| 21:50.39 | BabelO | cr2: i see this *((unsigned long *)0x40e0002c) = 0x80; *((unsigned long *)0x40e00020) = 0x80; |
| 21:50.45 | pH5 | what can I say, there are no other w3200 register accesses in the bootloader |
| 21:50.53 | BabelO | cr2: in initialize_asic3, and want to know what it is |
| 21:50.56 | pH5 | (except for the CHIP_ID read) |
| 21:51.04 | cr2 | pH5: and the boardid 6 needs the bitbanging spi_init. |
| 21:51.23 | cr2 | BabelO: pxa gpio ? |
| 21:51.34 | pH5 | cr2: ah right, I should stop looking at your bootloader and take BabelO's instead |
| 21:51.42 | BabelO | pH5: good , i ll check with current values |
| 21:51.46 | pH5 | but the pure lcdc initialization is the same in both |
| 21:52.12 | cr2 | pH5: there is some difference between 2.05 and 2.06 ? |
| 21:52.17 | BabelO | pH5: we have same board id |
| 21:52.39 | BabelO | but right maybe mine contain wwe board id init |
| 21:52.46 | pH5 | cr2: 2.05 doesn't have boardid6 support. in fact, I think it doesn't check the board id at all. |
| 21:52.58 | cr2 | hm. interesting. |
| 21:53.10 | cr2 | but i've bought it very early. |
| 21:53.31 | cr2 | just as it has appeared. |
| 21:53.36 | pH5 | cr2: the display protector foil looks that way ;) |
| 21:54.04 | cr2 | i didn't want hima because of wifi and kbd. |
| 21:54.06 | cr2 | lol. |
| 21:54.21 | cr2 | i've broken the original LCD |
| 21:54.52 | pH5 | ah, this is the famous ba with the broken lcd. I didn't remember that :) |
| 21:55.00 | cr2 | the foil is scratched because i've used it as a main gps map viewer. |
| 21:55.07 | cr2 | :) |
| 21:56.28 | cr2 | yeah, it's the second htc linux pda after hima of lkcl... |
| 22:04.35 | cr2 | BabelO: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Connectors |
| 22:05.26 | BabelO | cr2: good i can make my own serial connector ;) |
| 22:05.57 | BabelO | better maybe to test bootloader |
| 22:09.05 | kiozen | cool schematics... reminds me at my youth, when I was doing real electronics :) |
| 22:10.28 | cr2 | kiozen: it's all miniUSB now ;) |
| 22:11.01 | kiozen | And I sold most of my equipment... |
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| 23:53.10 | cr2 | java sucks ;) |
| 23:59.25 | paulproteus | heh, yes (-: |