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| 04:20.42 | chris___ | I've recently found the xda-develop~ homepage, and I'm interested in booting the Linux kernel and getting a shell and some basic stuff on a Qtek 1010 Wallaby PDA... Has anyone done this? |
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| 07:36.29 | goxboxlive | rob_w|laptop: you are quite familiar with openembedded right? |
| 07:36.40 | rob_w|laptop | i hope so |
| 07:36.45 | rob_w|laptop | how can i help |
| 07:37.08 | goxboxlive | rob_w|laptop: i have problem adding dbus-1 to console image. Do you know how i can have that installed? |
| 07:37.25 | goxboxlive | i want /etc/init.d/dbus-1 |
| 07:38.02 | goxboxlive | if a add to EXTRA_INSTALL "dbus" it failes under making rootfs and comlaines about missing package dbus-1. |
| 07:38.31 | goxboxlive | s/dbus-1/dbus |
| 07:38.55 | goxboxlive | and if i set to extra install "dbus-1" it wouldnt build at all. |
| 07:39.07 | goxboxlive | if you want i can pastebin both scenarios |
| 07:39.53 | rob_w|laptop | did you rebuild the cache ? so it pulls in the new console-image.bb ? |
| 07:41.30 | goxboxlive | http://pastebin.no/3378 |
| 07:41.43 | goxboxlive | yes several times |
| 07:41.57 | goxboxlive | now i will add just dbus |
| 07:42.10 | rob_w|laptop | yes dbus you need to add |
| 07:42.21 | rob_w|laptop | the package is named "dbus" and not "dbus-1" |
| 07:42.48 | rob_w|laptop | that should then work |
| 07:43.02 | rob_w|laptop | try bitbake dbus and see if that works out in your chain |
| 07:43.30 | goxboxlive | hold opn and you will see the output with dbus |
| 07:43.40 | rob_w|laptop | yuo |
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| 07:44.08 | goxboxlive | I jhave the sam eproblem with libstdc++ |
| 07:46.01 | goxboxlive | rob_w|laptop: http://pastebin.no/3379 |
| 07:46.02 | goxboxlive | the package is named dbus-1 but as you see in th elast pastebin it didnt work either. It fails before building. |
| 07:46.23 | goxboxlive | do you know any package that depends on dbus-1 that i might add? |
| 07:49.22 | rob_w|laptop | grep -nr dbus * | grep DEPENDS in yourn packages dir .. for example dhcdbd or cups |
| 07:49.55 | rob_w|laptop | did you clean the qtopia-gta01-image.bb before ? |
| 07:50.02 | rob_w|laptop | -c clean |
| 07:50.04 | goxboxlive | yes and task-base |
| 07:50.11 | rob_w|laptop | hmm |
| 07:50.27 | rob_w|laptop | can you build "bitbake dbus " |
| 07:50.55 | goxboxlive | exactly the same happends with libstdc++ / libstdc++6 |
| 07:53.06 | rob_w|laptop | i miss a "inherit image" in your bb file you pasted .. i have that in a custom image i have working |
| 07:53.11 | goxboxlive | dhcdbd adds bash. Man it's really going to be big console image |
| 07:53.18 | goxboxlive | rob_w|laptop: yes |
| 07:53.45 | rob_w|laptop | skip dhcbd .. you need to solve the initial problem |
| 07:54.10 | goxboxlive | it build just fine. The fynny part is if i add to extra_install "dbus-dev" it get added. but the image is getting so big |
| 07:54.18 | goxboxlive | right, skipped |
| 07:56.54 | rob_w|laptop | http://pastebin.org/21295 is what my custom image looks like |
| 07:57.40 | goxboxlive | rob_w|laptop: and it adds dbus-1 and libstdc++? |
| 07:57.45 | rob_w|laptop | no |
| 07:57.59 | rob_w|laptop | but a package named "osc" and "picolisp" .;-) |
| 07:58.58 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 08:00.09 | goxboxlive | stop smoking it will kill you |
| 08:03.40 | goxboxlive | I tried your way and added dbus but still the same. |
| 08:06.12 | rob_w|laptop | mark the = and not += . brb ..need to fix a printer |
| 08:09.27 | goxboxlive | ok |
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| 08:35.42 | rob_w|laptop | crap M$ .. it stops working for no reason ,, show no error message and acts if its all ok .. what a crap |
| 08:43.40 | goxboxlive | :-) |
| 08:44.19 | kiozen | sound like gpsd ;) |
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| 13:38.52 | kiozen | goxboxlive: did you succeed to use gpsd with your device? |
| 13:46.20 | goxboxlive | kiozen: yes |
| 13:46.58 | kiozen | goxboxlive: did you try the "o" command in the telnet console ? |
| 13:48.03 | kiozen | goxboxlive: and what version you are using ? :) |
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| 13:56.42 | goxboxlive | kiozen: no i didnt try the "o" command. I dont know what it does. I dont remember the version of gpsd. I am using the one OE provides me. Cant check, i sent my device back to the store, there where some bugs with it. |
| 13:56.52 | goxboxlive | I am getting a new one soon |
| 13:56.54 | goxboxlive | i hope |
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| 13:58.00 | kiozen | goxboxlive: ok, the o command should give you all relevant gps data , however with my BT gps it's returning nothing |
| 13:58.23 | kiozen | just want to make sure it's not just my device haveing problems |
| 13:58.31 | goxboxlive | ok, with r it gives me some nmea |
| 13:58.53 | kiozen | yes r means raw output, that works with mine, too |
| 13:59.06 | kiozen | however r is depreciated to use ^^ |
| 14:00.27 | kiozen | goxboxlive: btw do you know if the native output of your device was NMEA or did gpsd translate the binary protocol to nmea |
| 14:01.41 | goxboxlive | i dont know so much about it, but there awhere A1 before fix and A3 when i had a fix. It also gave me A2 but i dont know what that means |
| 14:03.15 | kiozen | most likely: a2 = 3 satelites / 2D a3 = 4 satelites / 3D |
| 14:03.20 | kiozen | ok thanks! :) |
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| 14:16.34 | goxboxlive | ok |
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| 15:11.17 | Pryan2 | hi all |
| 15:12.08 | Pryan2 | chris___ are you cr2 ? |
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| 15:19.24 | fenix | morning |
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| 15:37.33 | evalyn | hi |
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| 15:40.42 | evalyn | does someone know where i can get the htc universal kernel |
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| 15:58.15 | BabelO_ | evalyn: if you want to compile it yourself -> http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/UniversalKernel |
| 15:58.31 | BabelO_ | evalyn: else http://www.linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcuniversal/ |
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| 16:24.13 | evalyn | babel: thanks, i want to compile myself, because qtopia and openmoko are not working and i want to boot all of them |
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| 18:13.29 | goxboxlive | hi tsdogs |
| 18:13.45 | goxboxlive | how should the folder structure of roadmap be in the qtopia source? |
| 18:14.25 | goxboxlive | shoudl i just copy the whole roadmap folder to source/appcliactions and delete the CVS folder and start to compile (of course add it to general.pri) |
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| 18:18.42 | evalyn | downloading from cvs took me an hour and still not finished |
| 18:19.03 | d-harry | hi, has someone testet the latest angstrom ba X11 image? |
| 18:19.44 | d-harry | i think it works fine |
| 18:19.59 | d-harry | but the pfone function dosent work |
| 18:22.13 | tsdogs | hi goxboxlive |
| 18:22.52 | tsdogs | goxboxlive: yes I think that should work just fine. |
| 18:23.04 | goxboxlive | ok thx, i'll try |
| 18:23.24 | goxboxlive | tsdogs: why do i have to delete the CVS folders? |
| 18:23.59 | tsdogs | goxboxlive: well it depends on how u work with it, though u can leave them there. |
| 18:24.10 | tsdogs | dunno how it would interact with git though |
| 18:24.41 | goxboxlive | maybe i can add it to gitignore |
| 18:24.46 | tsdogs | goxboxlive: I have made a few changes which should make it a bit faster when moving the map around |
| 18:25.06 | tsdogs | goxboxlive: yes, so you could cvs up and git in the same folder :) |
| 18:25.10 | goxboxlive | is it commted yet? |
| 18:25.17 | tsdogs | goxboxlive: yes |
| 18:25.32 | goxboxlive | ok, i do an update. I did one a couple of days ago |
| 18:26.05 | tsdogs | cr2 added a data folder though I really have no idea on what it will be used for :) |
| 18:26.25 | tsdogs | goxboxlive: have u played around with QtWebKit? |
| 18:26.39 | goxboxlive | no, never |
| 18:26.45 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 18:28.02 | tsdogs | it seems pretty huge for me to be used on embedded platforms... |
| 18:28.22 | tsdogs | goxboxlive: u know if the iris browser will be released GPL or only commercial? |
| 18:28.39 | tsdogs | hmm, probably a question for ljp |
| 18:29.21 | goxboxlive | tsdogs: i have no idea, but wouldnt that be weird if they didnt release it with GPL? |
| 18:30.13 | tsdogs | well from Trolltech and Iris web sites there is no mention about gpl ... |
| 18:34.19 | tsdogs | s/Iris/Torch |
| 18:35.02 | goxboxlive | tsdogs: isent it 'find . -name CVS | rm -rf $Xargs' ? |
| 18:35.55 | tsdogs | goxboxlive: I usually do: for i in `find . -name CVS`; do rm -Rf $i; done |
| 18:36.12 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 18:37.44 | goxboxlive | hmm clever |
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| 19:17.36 | BabelO | hi tsdogs |
| 19:17.44 | tsdogs | hi BabelO |
| 19:17.53 | BabelO | how is your voice application ;) i can provide you some help on HMM and FFT |
| 19:18.27 | tsdogs | BabelO: I haven't worked on it lately, though I have been doing some experiments with pocketsphinx ... |
| 19:19.04 | tsdogs | BabelO: actually my ain't using hmm |
| 19:19.45 | tsdogs | It's using a FFT to extract the main features from the wav and then it uses a DTW for matching. |
| 19:20.32 | tsdogs | Though I'm not really an expert about it and cannot find what is wrong with the algorithms (which were taken from cvoicecontrol and adapted by me) |
| 19:21.15 | tsdogs | I get too close values for different wav and the match is not working well... |
| 19:22.03 | BabelO | tsdogs: i understand some part, you can see that you have only 16 samples and a 8khz sample |
| 19:22.32 | BabelO | tsdogs: this code works with window |
| 19:22.41 | tsdogs | ? |
| 19:22.59 | BabelO | tsdogs: in scope.cpp |
| 19:23.21 | tsdogs | score.cpp? |
| 19:23.30 | BabelO | yes sorru :) |
| 19:24.20 | tsdogs | BabelO: I have done a few tests with 16bit and 8bit samples just to see how it works... |
| 19:25.15 | tsdogs | BabelO: what u mean that it works with windows? |
| 19:25.45 | BabelO | yes it seem there is some settings to keep values only in a range |
| 19:26.17 | tsdogs | hmm, It should work something like this: |
| 19:26.43 | tsdogs | 1. take the wav file and split it in pieces. |
| 19:27.02 | tsdogs | 2. every piece extracts a value which is relevant for that part |
| 19:27.09 | tsdogs | 3. store the info |
| 19:27.28 | tsdogs | then recon uses a DTW algorithm to check which matches best |
| 19:30.03 | BabelO | do you have something to normalize volume |
| 19:30.41 | tsdogs | BabelO: it should be the channel_mean which right now has fixed values that should be ok for my mic :) |
| 19:30.57 | BabelO | ok |
| 19:31.46 | BabelO | i have some HMM expert at office, they use it to do ICR on picture |
| 19:31.58 | tsdogs | BabelO: though I'm not sure the values are correct, I used the values taken from cvoicecontrol, though I had to migrate it to alsa as it wasn't working with oss |
| 19:32.51 | tsdogs | for what I understand hmm is language dependent thoguhg (for voice of course) |
| 19:33.11 | tsdogs | but I might be wrong. |
| 19:34.56 | tsdogs | I might just try to remove the channel_mean, maybe it's only this which is causing the match problems... |
| 19:35.33 | tsdogs | BabelO: though I'd be glad if u ask your hmm expert to see if there's an easy solution for my dumb brain to implement this app :) |
| 19:36.32 | BabelO | tsdogs: yes i already start him to look at your code and it tell me that some implementation are strange |
| 19:37.09 | tsdogs | BabelO: :) that can be |
| 19:38.39 | BabelO | tsdogs: i look again tomorrow at lunch time ;) now i ve to understand why qtopia hang on at+CSCA? or AT+CSCS command |
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| 19:39.13 | tsdogs | BabelO: ok thanks, a hint is really apreciated :) |
| 19:40.27 | BabelO | tsdogs: me too i accept for qtopia modem support :) |
| 19:41.01 | tsdogs | BabelO: sorry, I have no knoledge of it... :( |
| 19:42.05 | tsdogs | gg. bbl |
| 19:44.56 | PCrazee | there seems to be some problem with the openmoko installer if the windows is not english. it installed the rootfs tar to "Storage Card" even if it's called different |
| 19:45.58 | PCrazee | boots fine after i moved the file |
| 19:46.15 | PCrazee | (universal) |
| 19:48.09 | goxboxlive | PCrazee: this is mention in the README file |
| 19:48.34 | goxboxlive | I have posted 100 times about this, and i have also mention this in the README file. |
| 19:48.50 | PCrazee | don't see a readme there: http://www.linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcuniversal/images/OpenMoko/ |
| 19:48.56 | goxboxlive | PCrazee: why dont you read the README before your use such files. |
| 19:49.46 | PCrazee | usualy i read the README file... if i see them ;) |
| 19:49.49 | goxboxlive | ####################################################################################### |
| 19:49.49 | goxboxlive | ######## CAB FILE FOR WWE (ENGLISH LANGUAGE) DEVICES ONLY ############################ |
| 19:49.49 | goxboxlive | ####################################################################################### |
| 19:50.07 | goxboxlive | in the OPIE section :-D I'll add it to openmoko too. |
| 19:50.20 | goxboxlive | But this has been mention in the xda forums |
| 19:50.25 | PCrazee | i got it booting after all |
| 19:50.38 | PCrazee | and the opie installed without this problem on my system |
| 19:50.55 | PCrazee | it installed to "Speicherkartw" |
| 19:51.16 | PCrazee | s/kartw/karte |
| 19:52.39 | goxboxlive | PCrazee: i added the README file now |
| 19:52.42 | goxboxlive | sorry |
| 19:53.13 | PCrazee | dont need to be sorry for that, i figured it out after all ;) |
| 19:53.47 | PCrazee | thx for the nice installers you made there :) |
| 19:53.57 | goxboxlive | welcome |
| 19:54.00 | dcordes_ | hola |
| 20:00.13 | goxboxlive | pH5: are you around? |
| 20:18.09 | pH5 | goxboxlive: yes |
| 20:18.22 | goxboxlive | hi pH5 |
| 20:18.57 | goxboxlive | Do you know how i can force dbus-1 (/etc/init.s/dbus-1) to be installed with a console image? |
| 20:19.18 | dcordes_ | --force-depends |
| 20:19.26 | goxboxlive | do you remember my trouble with libstdc++, i have the same with dbus/dbus-1 |
| 20:19.37 | goxboxlive | dcordes_: in OpenEmbedded? |
| 20:20.13 | dcordes_ | goxboxlive: you want that installed into your image? maybe extra_install in local.conf |
| 20:21.11 | goxboxlive | dcordes_: i have made a custom console-image where i have extra_install, but it doesnt help. It is some name confusing stuff with dbus/dbus-1 |
| 20:22.00 | pH5 | goxboxlive: does adding it to DISTRO_EXTRA_RDEPENDS in angstrom-2008.1.conf work? |
| 20:22.12 | pH5 | alternatively, add it to task-base somewhere. |
| 20:22.50 | goxboxlive | pH5: but the problem is with dbus it failes making rootfs, and with dbus-1 it failes before making the image. Hold i have a pastebin |
| 20:24.14 | goxboxlive | http://pastebin.no/3378 this one is with dbus-1 in my custom-console image After ########EOF######### is OE output bug |
| 20:24.37 | goxboxlive | http://pastebin.no/3379 is with dbus in my custom-console image After ########EOF######### is OE output bug |
| 20:24.52 | goxboxlive | you see the ipk is named dbus-1-version.ipk |
| 20:26.41 | goxboxlive | pH5: i had the same problem with libstdc++/libstdc++6 for some months ago. (havejt solved that either) |
| 20:27.02 | pH5 | yes, you cannot put packages that are renamed into IMAGE_INSTALL |
| 20:27.04 | goxboxlive | But the strange part is if i add dbus-dev then dbus-1 get installed |
| 20:27.12 | pH5 | you have to make some task package depend on it |
| 20:27.28 | goxboxlive | how do i do that? |
| 20:28.02 | BabelO | ph5 :) i m happy to see you |
| 20:28.11 | goxboxlive | BabelO: back off :-) |
| 20:28.19 | goxboxlive | he is helping me now |
| 20:28.28 | BabelO | goxboxlive: ok i wait :) |
| 20:28.28 | pH5 | goxboxlive: look at the qtopia-core-console-image |
| 20:28.41 | goxboxlive | i will |
| 20:28.45 | pH5 | it has a task in IMAGE_INSTALL: task-qtopia-core-console |
| 20:29.11 | pH5 | and tasks/task-qtopia-core-console RDEPENDs on the needed packages |
| 20:29.19 | pH5 | you can do the same |
| 20:29.24 | pH5 | hi BabelO |
| 20:29.41 | BabelO | hi pH5 |
| 20:29.54 | goxboxlive | pH5: i have tried building qtopia-core-console-image, but it doesnt add dbus-1 either, neither libstdc++ |
| 20:31.42 | pH5 | I know. but you can make images/goxbox-console-image.bb and tasks/task-goxbox-console.bb and add RDEPENDs on libstdc++ and dbus to the latter |
| 20:32.10 | goxboxlive | pH5: thx i will try |
| 20:32.25 | pH5 | what do you need dbus for? |
| 20:32.44 | pH5 | shouldn't it rather be pulled as a dependency of some program? |
| 20:35.03 | BabelO | pH5: (10)ATE0V1\nOK\n and AT <7>(4)\nOK\n |
| 20:39.29 | BabelO | pH5: http://pastebin.ca/919452 i think it is a bad patch, but don't know how to do it |
| 20:43.16 | goxboxlive | pH5: i bow for you |
| 20:43.27 | goxboxlive | thanska lot for your help, it finaly worked. |
| 20:43.32 | goxboxlive | yyeeaaahhhhaaa |
| 20:43.34 | goxboxlive | bbl |
| 20:44.56 | pH5 | goxboxlive: great |
| 20:46.21 | pH5 | BabelO: I still think that this does not belong in kernel space. |
| 20:46.34 | pH5 | at a quick glance, does this ever put 0xd into *dst? |
| 20:47.11 | pH5 | seems to me that if *src==0xd, you always hit the skip incoming characters part. |
| 20:47.43 | BabelO | pH5: i don't want to see 0xd characters |
| 20:48.09 | BabelO | pH5: i have a lot of \r on each line and it seem qtopia is confused by that |
| 20:49.44 | BabelO | all this at command make me crazy :( |
| 20:50.19 | pH5 | hm... |
| 20:51.03 | pH5 | I think it would be more worthwile to make the qtopia parser more robust. |
| 20:52.01 | BabelO | pH5: yes that what i try to do few month ago, but when i see that universal works without hack |
| 20:53.25 | BabelO | pH5: i was thinking that if my at command fit universal format, then i can use qtopia, but that is a bad idea |
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| 22:58.41 | sam1am | Anyone know if work is being done on TyTnII/Kaiser Linux? I couldn't find anything online other than snippets, and there is nothing on the HTC page at handhelds.org |
| 23:05.22 | dcordes_ | sam1am: there is work in progresse but unfortunately there is nothing yet to try out |
| 23:06.10 | sam1am | Cool, thanks. I'll keep watching for some news :) |
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| 23:27.30 | dcordes_ | sam1am: we have msm7200 in kaiser. git.android.com provides a linux kernel for msm7200a. problem is some differences between the two prevent us from getting further with the android kernel on kaiser |
| 23:28.23 | sam1am | Ah that's too bad |
| 23:29.49 | dcordes_ | sam1am: search wiki.xda-developers.com for kaiser. then you get an overview of our research work |
| 23:30.58 | sam1am | I don't see anything on the kaiser wiki page about linux or android |