| 00:01.19 | BabelO | cr2: i did not tryto compile with linload |
| 00:02.07 | cr2 | wow |
| 00:02.22 | cr2 | root@htcuniversal:~$ cat /dev/ttyS2 |
| 00:02.32 | cr2 | $GPGSV,3,1,12,20,00,000,,10,00,000,,25,00,000,,27,00,000,*79 |
| 00:02.32 | cr2 | $GPGSV,3,2,12,03,00,000,,31,00,000,,24,00,000,,15,00,000,*78 |
| 00:02.36 | cr2 | :) |
| 00:03.13 | BabelO | cr2: on n560 ? :) |
| 00:03.19 | cr2 | yes. |
| 00:03.35 | cr2 | artemis ? |
| 00:04.33 | cr2 | no keyboard on n560, no qtopia |
| 00:04.49 | cr2 | lol |
| 00:05.04 | cr2 | i can connect the usb keyboard to the usb host port :) |
| 00:08.21 | dcordes | does qtopia work on BA, btw? |
| 00:09.53 | BabelO | dcordes: yes, i told you already it works |
| 00:10.10 | dcordes | BabelO, sorry I missed that |
| 00:10.33 | dcordes | do we have images somewhere? |
| 00:10.46 | BabelO | cr2: no GPS on artemis :(, i think it is not the serial port, maybe mcbsp or others |
| 00:11.21 | BabelO | dcordes: only old image, currently i m compiling a fresh one maybe tomorrow or sunday |
| 00:11.37 | cr2 | BabelO: can't believe it |
| 00:12.01 | cr2 | time for the ncurses software :) |
| 00:12.24 | dcordes | BabelO, is old worth trying? |
| 00:13.12 | BabelO | dcordes: nothing works on old image, with new, phone call / receive works, sms receive works / gprs also |
| 00:15.28 | dcordes | sounds good BabelO are there instructions for building? |
| 00:16.08 | BabelO | dcordes: on #qtopia channel, look at header msg, it point you to qtopia git to check out |
| 00:34.55 | cr2 | BabelO: got a fix, and the coordinates are right :) |
| 00:35.47 | BabelO | cr2: and what about resume ? did kiozen can test it soon with gpsd ? |
| 00:36.29 | cr2 | i need to fix the lcd resume first. |
| 00:37.03 | cr2 | if he will add gpsd to the image, and gpsd support to M, i can test it. |
| 00:37.25 | cr2 | BabelO: where is pxafb in /sys ? |
| 00:37.38 | cr2 | BabelO: btw, change the STISR |
| 00:37.42 | BabelO | cr2: /sys/class/graphics |
| 00:38.19 | cr2 | suspend ? |
| 00:38.34 | cr2 | in state ? |
| 00:38.42 | cr2 | state=0 |
| 00:38.47 | BabelO | hmm maybe not here the in /sys/system/plateform |
| 00:38.54 | BabelO | something like that there is access to modules |
| 00:39.03 | cr2 | power/state |
| 00:39.31 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:40.43 | cr2 | does not react. |
| 00:42.41 | BabelO | cr2: my ba is discharged too much, can't boot it :( |
| 00:43.06 | cr2 | <7>[ 1179.180000] lcd power off. not implemented |
| 00:43.13 | cr2 | need to wakeup it ;) |
| 00:45.10 | cr2 | GSOD |
| 00:45.46 | dcordes | BabelO, I checked out qtopia git but it's very mysterious to me |
| 00:46.12 | BabelO | dcordes: i ve made a branch into this git |
| 00:46.20 | BabelO | git --branch htcblueangel |
| 00:47.18 | BabelO | i use qtopia.net toolchain |
| 00:47.28 | BabelO | then i do configure -device htcbluenagel then make |
| 00:47.40 | dcordes | ok let me try |
| 00:48.30 | dcordes | git clone git://git.asheesh.org/qtopia_snapshot.git --branch htcblueangel? |
| 00:48.53 | BabelO | dcordes: maybe yes, i don't know too much git |
| 00:50.08 | cr2 | haha. resumed into wince. |
| 00:57.13 | dcordes | cr2, ? |
| 00:59.09 | cr2 | ? |
| 01:02.32 | dcordes | cr2, you reseumed from suspend into windows? |
| 01:03.20 | tsdogs | dcordes: http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/Qtopia |
| 01:04.08 | cr2 | dcordes: yes. the resume process is very strange on n560 |
| 01:04.14 | dcordes | tsdogs, yes I already read this. I don't understand to add the branch though |
| 01:04.40 | cr2 | tsdogs: have gps running on n560. should be also easy on athena |
| 01:05.05 | cr2 | but have lost my athena gpio notes somewhere ;-) |
| 01:05.25 | tsdogs | cr2: lol, n560 I think is only kiozen having it, and athena is too much for my finances :) |
| 01:05.36 | tsdogs | lol |
| 01:05.43 | cr2 | tsdogs: kiozen sent me his n560 |
| 01:05.59 | tsdogs | ok, then it's only u having it :) |
| 01:06.05 | cr2 | lol |
| 01:09.41 | tsdogs | good night |
| 01:10.37 | cr2 | good night |
| 01:12.43 | BabelO | good night |
| 02:19.17 | Marex | cr2, looks like there will be slight delay with patches for hw6515d |
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| 11:08.57 | BabelO_ | hi |
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| 11:11.29 | tsdogs | BabelO: hi |
| 11:13.17 | pH5 | hi BabelO, tsdogs |
| 11:13.25 | tsdogs | pH5: hi |
| 11:13.39 | BabelO | hi pH5 |
| 11:13.55 | tsdogs | pH5: fyi openmoko-image fails to build openmoko-browser2 |
| 11:14.14 | BabelO | tsdogs: was working for me yesturday :) |
| 11:14.25 | pH5 | tsdogs: not anymore |
| 11:14.35 | BabelO | tsdogs: but i try pH5 tips to build my console-image, and it fail |
| 11:14.44 | tsdogs | pH5: I just updated, and retried :( |
| 11:14.54 | tsdogs | just = 1hour ago :) |
| 11:15.14 | tsdogs | should I try removing the source? |
| 11:15.21 | pH5 | tsdogs: I committed the fix yesterday, but forgot to bump glib-2.0 revision |
| 11:15.24 | pH5 | I only did that 15min ago |
| 11:15.24 | tsdogs | hmm it's svn |
| 11:15.31 | tsdogs | pH5: lol |
| 11:15.32 | tsdogs | ok |
| 11:19.13 | tsdogs | BabelO: I have a working Qtopia Uni now, if we only fixed the suspend I think it would be usable as a day phone :) |
| 11:20.05 | tsdogs | btw, I have a BA laying around at the office just to collect dust once u got the images I can test for u |
| 11:25.27 | BabelO | tsdogs: ok , i m updating oe, to rebuild this console-image |
| 11:26.05 | tsdogs | console and opie images finished for me |
| 11:28.35 | pH5 | BabelO: did you get a kernel+initramfs to work on BA? |
| 11:28.49 | pH5 | my current boots all fail somewhere in the initramfs image, before mounting the rootfs |
| 11:29.13 | BabelO | pH5: not with the 2.6 on linuxtogo :( |
| 11:29.50 | BabelO | pH5: did you force meme=128M, it is required to boot linux from wm5 |
| 11:30.16 | pH5 | cr2's BA has wm2003se |
| 11:30.41 | pH5 | that's why I'm so keen to get booting from the htc bootloader to work, but still no go :/ |
| 11:31.01 | BabelO | pH5: and mmc still does not works |
| 11:33.06 | Pryan | anybody knows a webchat based on ajax fully configurable to use my own irc server and free downloadable ? |
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| 11:47.16 | tsdogs | ~seen ymerejt |
| 11:47.18 | apt | ymerejt <n=jerry@ip-217.net-89-3-217.rev.numericable.fr> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 41d 12h 47m 14s ago, saying: 'goxboxlive: ~ping'. |
| 11:54.46 | pH5 | heh, same on magician. "initramfs: Loading /initrd.d/0â¾ module", "/init: source: 64: Can't open /initrd.d/0â¾" and then kernel panic when init dies. |
| 11:59.28 | pH5 | oh, that's *, not â¾ |
| 11:59.48 | pH5 | it tries to load /initrd.d/0* files, but there are no files beginning with 0 in there |
| 12:20.20 | BabelO | pH5: http://share-vplusr.3ds.com/de/where-is-philippe-now/ |
| 12:29.02 | pH5 | 3d virtual run? now they want people to *virtually* run for a good cause?! |
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| 12:31.56 | BabelO | pH5: yes i read this too, looks strange |
| 12:32.24 | BabelO | pH5: i found that while reading an article on rfid chip and us army batman, lol |
| 12:34.50 | BabelO | pH5: OE is very very very slow today :( |
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| 12:46.53 | pH5 | BabelO: try the wolfson or nslu2 mirrors |
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| 12:56.06 | simme1 | hello everybody |
| 12:57.13 | simme1 | i just booted my magician with linux for the first time, nice work so far |
| 12:58.30 | simme1 | where do i find the kernel sources, and what are the debugging possibilities? |
| 12:59.26 | tsdogs | simme1: kernel sources are on handhelds.org cvs, debugging can be done via ssh (wifi or usb afair) |
| 12:59.49 | BabelO | tsdogs: no wifi on magician ;) |
| 13:00.04 | tsdogs | BabelO: ok. |
| 13:00.29 | tsdogs | simme1: http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/UniversalKernel simply replace htcuniversal with htcmagician |
| 13:00.52 | simme1 | thanks |
| 13:01.45 | dcordes | somebody ever heard of ipaq514? It's an omap850 w/ smartphone ce. no touchscreen/qwerty. any way to run haret on it? |
| 13:06.07 | Marex | dcordes, just try it ;) |
| 13:06.30 | simme1 | tsdogs: can you point me to documentation regarding the boot procedure, how does haret work, how does it boot the kernel? i am new to this pda stuff, but im doing arm7nommu kernel development at work |
| 13:06.40 | simme1 | would like to tinker around a little... |
| 13:07.02 | dcordes | simme1, http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HaRET here's haret website |
| 13:07.20 | dcordes | http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HaRET_20Documentation |
| 13:07.32 | tsdogs | simme1: no haret expert, though it "simply" loads the kernel into available memory space and boots it |
| 13:08.35 | simme1 | thanks so far, see you later |
| 13:09.13 | dcordes | Marex, I will try latest binary |
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| 14:05.15 | dcordes | tsdogs, did you try acx patch yet? |
| 14:05.23 | dcordes | works well for me |
| 14:06.03 | tsdogs | dcordes: I tryed building it but complains about missing functions (?). though I'm more interested in the wpa |
| 14:07.07 | dcordes | tsdogs, I just downloaded patch into drivers/net/wireless/acx applied it, went through fine, and built |
| 14:07.17 | dcordes | all good I just copied and pasted from the guide |
| 14:07.38 | tsdogs | dcordes: ok |
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| 14:11.44 | dcordes | tsdogs, do you use OE toolchain? |
| 14:12.17 | tsdogs | dcordes: for kernel I use ficneo from qtopia.net (though it's still OE) |
| 14:15.21 | dcordes | arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi- is what I use |
| 14:16.58 | tsdogs | dcordes: same here, but I'm not interested in aircracking, so was just a try. Have more interesting things to do :) |
| 14:17.22 | dcordes | wpa would be neat |
| 14:17.29 | dcordes | but that's impossible with acx afaik |
| 14:17.51 | dcordes | cr2, maybe we could use the fic-gta02 driver |
| 14:18.02 | dcordes | s/cr2/cr2 said/ |
| 14:21.01 | simme1 | i just learned that the developer datasheets for the pxa chips are no longer available from the intel website, is there a way to get them? |
| 14:21.20 | tsdogs | dcordes: new acx supports wpa, but it needs a migration of current drivers to new kernel |
| 14:21.35 | tsdogs | simme1: you'd have to ask cr2 |
| 14:22.15 | tsdogs | simme1: google? :) |
| 14:22.23 | simme1 | cr2, can i get the pxa datasheets from you? |
| 14:23.12 | simme1 | my google karma helped me but it took a while, and there may be other stuff that i dont get through it |
| 14:24.19 | simme1 | btw if anyone wants i have 280000003.pdf, the pxa270 datasheet, in my download queue atm |
| 14:24.39 | simme1 | but very slooow... |
| 14:40.36 | cr2 | hi |
| 14:40.59 | simme1 | hi |
| 14:41.12 | pH5 | hi cr2, simme1 |
| 14:41.36 | cr2 | simme1: i can upload all my datasheets to xanadux.sf.net |
| 14:41.53 | simme1 | that would be nice |
| 14:41.55 | cr2 | but i have no idea how to configure things there. |
| 14:42.09 | cr2 | hi pH5 |
| 14:42.14 | simme1 | at least for intel pxa no link is working |
| 14:42.56 | cr2 | pH5: this n560 resume procedure is very fragile |
| 14:43.37 | cr2 | pH5: i think sometimes it jumps behind the kernel .text end |
| 14:43.37 | pH5 | dcordes: the magician booted now, after removing the kernel image in the rootfs that it failed to kexec into. the openmoko theme is still borked. |
| 14:44.03 | pH5 | cr2: I wish we could just jtag :/ |
| 14:44.37 | cr2 | pH5: i'm really thinking about patching the IPL, but don't have a good idea how we are going to do it in a general case |
| 14:45.15 | simme1 | ph5, cr2: is there a working kdbg implementation for pxa early in the boot process? |
| 14:45.18 | cr2 | i may just change the jump address. |
| 14:45.35 | cr2 | simme1: usually it's not needed |
| 14:46.21 | cr2 | simme1: you can use the serial or IR port for sending the decompress '.' and further messages |
| 14:46.40 | cr2 | but it depends on the cpu, how to implement it. |
| 14:47.53 | simme1 | jup i also thought about IR |
| 14:48.21 | cr2 | pH5: the newer devices always write to the zero page during wakeup, so they can adjust the RAM timings. is something stored there by linux ? |
| 14:48.57 | cr2 | simme1: pxa and s3c24xx are able to use IR for early debugging. |
| 14:49.03 | dcordes | pH5, ok thanks for report. did you yet boot BA? |
| 14:52.54 | pH5 | I'll try that now |
| 14:57.06 | pH5 | rebuilds kernel+initramfs once more |
| 14:57.24 | kiozen | BabelO: ? |
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| 14:57.44 | pH5 | cr2: I don't know |
| 14:59.01 | BabelO | hi kiozen |
| 14:59.54 | kiozen | hi, can you please check for me where projects.h is stored in your distribution? |
| 15:00.11 | kiozen | gdal.h was /usr/include/gdal.h right? |
| 15:00.21 | BabelO | kiozen: in /usr/include |
| 15:00.36 | BabelO | kiozen: yes same for gdal |
| 15:00.46 | kiozen | ok, thanks :) try to make cmake failsafe |
| 15:02.53 | BabelO | kiozen: i ll try to build with oe :( |
| 15:03.41 | kiozen | BabelO: that would be a bad idea with GT ;) |
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| 15:04.46 | BabelO | pH5: this make me crazy -> http://pastebin.ca/952782 |
| 15:05.55 | cr2 | kiozen: hi |
| 15:06.02 | kiozen | hi |
| 15:06.08 | cr2 | kiozen: gpsd support for M ? |
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| 15:06.34 | kiozen | hm, still same status, gpsd does not like my gps mouse |
| 15:06.38 | cr2 | kiozen: i still don't understand the GSOD, it must be some qtopia thing. |
| 15:07.17 | kiozen | cr2: I will make a complete new rootfs when the device is back |
| 15:07.26 | cr2 | kiozen: how do i add gpsd to your image ? otherwise i'm forced to do 'cat /dev/ttyS2 > gpslog.nmea' |
| 15:08.26 | kiozen | I used OE, thus it should be doen via bitbake. I could try.. |
| 15:08.49 | cr2 | kiozen: i need to make resume work stable. i'll think about other things where the physical device is needed. |
| 15:10.26 | kiozen | yes, the saving waypoint crash is peculiar. I could make a version of M with some dbg output. |
| 15:11.03 | kiozen | but you told it's not really crashing. Just the screen turns green, right? |
| 15:11.06 | cr2 | one can make funny things with resume. if i store 0x1a2b3c4d to the cpu scratch register on suspend, it'll resume into the bootloader. |
| 15:11.24 | cr2 | it's the screen going all green |
| 15:11.49 | cr2 | i may cat /dev/fb0 > GSOD.dump |
| 15:12.00 | cr2 | to check which color is that. |
| 15:12.17 | kiozen | but M ist still working, not termination, right? |
| 15:12.23 | cr2 | but i need to add the backlight support first. |
| 15:12.57 | cr2 | it's running, as a process, but how i can check if it responds ? |
| 15:13.31 | cr2 | hm. |
| 15:13.43 | cr2 | i need to add the lccr4 support too. |
| 15:13.54 | kiozen | hm, good question... |
| 15:14.08 | cr2 | like on the uni, since we are not using the 2.6.24 kernel. |
| 15:14.42 | cr2 | otherwise you'll get flickering after resume, because the refresh rate will drop by factor 2. |
| 15:16.14 | cr2 | kiozen: the n560 gps is reasonably good. it works not so good as 76Cx, but it's acceptable. i've compared it with sable, which uses the moko1-style hammerhead chip. |
| 15:17.25 | cr2 | a bt gps will have a better antenna, that's true. but i doubt it's really worth the whole pain. |
| 15:17.43 | kiozen | hm, I never got a fix close to my ballcony door, the 60scx and the gps mouse get one easily |
| 15:18.24 | cr2 | sure. the n560 antenna is obviously much worse than the others. |
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| 15:18.53 | kiozen | they must have placed it stupid as hell |
| 15:19.21 | cr2 | i think outside it will work ok. |
| 15:19.26 | dcordes | bbl |
| 15:19.54 | cr2 | my bt sirf3 loses the satellites in a dense forest |
| 15:20.30 | kiozen | hm, but working under the tree canopy is important |
| 15:20.35 | cr2 | and 76Cx uses a different firmware, so maybe garmin just uses some dirty tricks. |
| 15:21.04 | cr2 | kiozen: it depends on the kind of forest. |
| 15:21.19 | kiozen | don't think dirty tricks help with receiver quality |
| 15:21.57 | kiozen | Oberpfälzer forest :) nice deciduous forest |
| 15:22.21 | kiozen | but hell for high frequency signals |
| 15:22.43 | cr2 | afair you need to use web update for 60/76Cx |
| 15:23.03 | kiozen | yes |
| 15:23.05 | cr2 | i'd certainly like to look at their firmware :) |
| 15:23.42 | kiozen | that must be still the best part |
| 15:23.50 | cr2 | ok, you will see how it works. |
| 15:24.08 | cr2 | hmm. maybe i need to recheck the 0x60 command again :) |
| 15:25.28 | cr2 | 76Cx tries to track the sats even when a different firmware gives up. |
| 15:25.48 | kiozen | wonder why OE is compiling all kind of stuff just to do gpsd |
| 15:26.05 | cr2 | sometimes that leads to very strange tracks, but the LCD sat status menu looks good. |
| 15:26.31 | cr2 | because somebody added dbus and whatever . |
| 15:26.53 | cr2 | some motif client for drawing nmea data ;) |
| 15:27.18 | cr2 | and may other useless dependencies. |
| 15:27.24 | cr2 | s/may/many/ |
| 15:28.26 | kiozen | http://pastebin.ca/952808 |
| 15:28.43 | kiozen | sqlite failed :/ |
| 15:29.44 | cr2 | newer version on www.sqlite.org ? |
| 15:30.13 | cr2 | Version 3.5.7 |
| 15:30.32 | kiozen | yes seems to be too old |
| 15:30.35 | cr2 | and you look for 3.4.1 |
| 15:32.40 | kiozen | hm, if I update, I will become an installation orgie |
| 15:32.52 | cr2 | lol |
| 15:33.45 | cr2 | isn't sqlite included into qtopia ? |
| 15:34.07 | kiozen | don't know, OE wants it |
| 15:34.25 | cr2 | ok. |
| 15:34.44 | cr2 | i think i'll backport the generic-bl driver now. |
| 15:35.09 | kiozen | I hate those "you have to compile it all yourself" distros |
| 15:35.38 | cr2 | i don't have a problem with it, as long it's maintained. |
| 15:35.49 | kiozen | you loose more time on getting it compiled than doing real work |
| 15:36.16 | kiozen | for something that should be 0815 |
| 15:36.26 | cr2 | and the people keep their code clean. |
| 15:36.47 | cr2 | adding a motif dependency to gpsd is just insane. |
| 15:37.05 | cr2 | it's the same as gtk dependency in bluez-tools |
| 15:38.01 | kiozen | yes, in real life those things are not easily maintainable and the code is never sane |
| 15:38.34 | kiozen | thus frequent binary distribution would save a lot of time |
| 15:39.10 | cr2 | but somebody needs to build the binary distro. that was the promise of angstrom. |
| 15:40.02 | cr2 | but it seems they are more focused on some embedded stuff instead of the end-user programs. |
| 15:40.38 | cr2 | this way linux will never win, you can't lead with some 1985-style games ;) |
| 15:41.47 | cr2 | that's why i'm so interested in M and roadmap. |
| 15:42.10 | cr2 | because it's a real competition to our not so evil friends :) |
| 15:44.08 | kiozen | but if you have to be a rocket engineer to get this stuff running (read: compiled) the app can be good as hell, no one will use it |
| 15:45.51 | pH5 | kiozen: that's what the angstrom autobuilder is for |
| 15:45.54 | pH5 | dcordes: BA booted |
| 15:47.18 | kiozen | pH5: hm, I will look at it once I have to do a new rootfs for the Loox |
| 15:47.44 | kiozen | currently I need just gpsd running with my current |
| 15:47.52 | kiozen | oe rootfs |
| 15:48.29 | cr2 | i'm doing a disservice to the 1985-style games ;) |
| 15:48.32 | cr2 | http://www.techtite.com/Reviews/Archpc/Karateka.html |
| 15:52.00 | kiozen | cr2: what do I have to do again to cross compile an application, can't find my old notes |
| 15:53.26 | cr2 | it depends on your makefile |
| 15:53.48 | kiozen | usual autoconf automake stuff |
| 15:54.27 | cr2 | hmm. have not tried it in such mode for a long time |
| 15:54.35 | cr2 | --host and --target ? |
| 15:54.36 | kiozen | me either :) |
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| 15:55.07 | kiozen | yes , but what to write there? |
| 15:55.30 | cr2 | usually i just do PATH=/path/to/bin:$PATH CC=/path/to/cross-gcc CXX=/path/to/cross-g++ make |
| 15:56.20 | cr2 | and the right includes, but i all depends on how your makefile is written. |
| 15:56.32 | cr2 | i think it will detect the --host itself |
| 15:56.54 | cr2 | --target=arm-angstrom-gnueabi ? |
| 15:57.08 | cr2 | if that's how your compiler is named. |
| 16:02.14 | cr2 | hmm. it seems i need to roll back on the haret. the linboot.exe is completely broken. |
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| 17:58.23 | BabelO | pH5: does modem works with BA on openmoko ? ;) |
| 18:03.55 | pH5 | no idea, what I know though is that neither resume nor kexec work for me. |
| 18:04.32 | BabelO | pH5: you mean reboot in wince by kexec ? |
| 18:05.46 | pH5 | no, kexec into linux kernel in the rootfs |
| 18:06.34 | pH5 | it is how angstrom works (rather: should work) now. |
| 18:07.04 | BabelO | pH5: ah, it is a cool feature, how do you boot like that ? |
| 18:07.05 | pH5 | kernel+initramfs booted from haret/whatever is kind of a second/third stage bootloader that boots into a kernel in rootfs |
| 18:07.22 | pH5 | that way you can just opkg install new kernels |
| 18:07.53 | BabelO | pH5: so installer is always the same and can be same for all htc devices for example :) |
| 18:10.13 | pH5 | I think starting from 2.6.25 we can finally think about trying to have the same kernel for pxa25x and pxa27x devices. |
| 18:10.14 | BabelO | pH5: for lcd resume, it look strange, works for alge and me... and cr2 fix it with device you have |
| 18:21.47 | BabelO | pH5: where is this procedure ? for kexec boot ? |
| 18:28.17 | goxboxlive_ | pH5: diogene32 has 2.6.25 ready for mioa701 |
| 18:28.25 | goxboxlive_ | I am running it on my phone |
| 18:28.25 | cr2 | pH5: on which machine ? |
| 18:28.45 | goxboxlive_ | i guess he some patches |
| 18:28.58 | goxboxlive_ | or maybe it is in his own git branch |
| 18:34.44 | dcordes | pH5, I guess BA had the same theming issues as magician? Did you cope with making calls on either device? |
| 18:36.15 | pH5 | BabelO: it's in OE, ANGSTROM_MODE="uclibc" bitbake initramfs-bootmenu-image |
| 18:36.24 | pH5 | goxboxlive_: great, is he pushing it into mainline? |
| 18:36.41 | pH5 | cr2: sorry, what are you referring to? |
| 18:36.54 | pH5 | dcordes: yes and no |
| 18:37.33 | pH5 | somehow my images ended up with the default matchbox window theme. I didn't try to make calls yet, but on BA gsmd wasn't running at all. |
| 18:37.53 | cr2 | pH5: 2.6.25 kernel on BA ? how we can do it without asic3_mmc ? |
| 18:38.28 | goxboxlive_ | pH5: i dont know, have to ask him when he gets online. |
| 18:38.30 | pH5 | ah, ok. yes, asic3 is still missing for that. |
| 18:39.05 | pH5 | it's just that on <=2.6.23 it is just plain impossible to have a kernel for both 25x and 27x at the same time |
| 18:39.26 | goxboxlive_ | pH5: btw, at last i was able to build openmoko with angstrom as distro. I havent been able to do it for a while because of several bugs, like gnome-vfs. Thanks a lot for your help. |
| 18:39.45 | dcordes | pH5, the new boot method sounds interesting. is this documented somewhere? |
| 18:40.06 | pH5 | goxboxlive_: np, thanks for always spotting my mess-ups so quickly ;) |
| 18:40.31 | goxboxlive_ | :-) |
| 18:41.43 | pH5 | dcordes: has to be some psokolovsky RFC on angstrom or oe lists |
| 18:44.59 | pH5 | dcordes: http://projects.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/angstrom-distro-devel/2008-February/001776.html |
| 18:45.01 | pH5 | http://projects.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/angstrom-distro-devel/2008-February/001802.html |
| 18:45.09 | dcordes | already found it thanks :) |
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| 18:50.50 | dcordes_ | ah that's a great advance for zaurus sd booting ^^ |
| 18:58.48 | BabelO | yes agree with dcordes, very good for futur :) and also for new image install |
| 19:13.08 | dcordes_ | BabelO, did you try your qtopia build yet? |
| 19:16.20 | BabelO | dcordes_: no i m not able to compile console-image :( |
| 19:17.29 | dcordes_ | ok |
| 19:17.40 | dcordes_ | bbl |
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| 19:23.59 | goxboxlive_ | cr2: how is athena and linux status now. Have you gottenany further? |
| 19:25.36 | BabelO | pH5 : bootmenu fail with "Mounting /dev/ram0 on /mnt failed" |
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| 19:35.00 | Pryan | goxboxlive_ im looking for the same, i got an athena |
| 19:35.19 | Pryan | he will make devel of SD when finish other things |
| 19:38.25 | cr2 | goxboxlive_: i can make gps and bt working, but i'm mostly want to finish n560 now |
| 19:39.46 | BabelO | cr2: on athena a gui like maemo ( hildon ) look nicer |
| 19:43.11 | cr2 | BabelO: i choose toolkit because of the applications. there is now way in hell that gtk is an easier toolkit for app development. |
| 19:43.54 | goxboxlive_ | cr2: n560? Do you even have it? |
| 19:44.39 | cr2 | goxboxlive_: kiozen sent me his device for hacking. |
| 19:44.39 | goxboxlive_ | :-) |
| 19:44.52 | goxboxlive_ | BabelO: are we able to run maemo on our devices? |
| 19:45.22 | BabelO | goxboxlive_: i think yes, it is just gui but designed for 800x480 device |
| 19:47.47 | goxboxlive_ | ok |
| 19:49.34 | BabelO | goxboxlive_: are you able to build the console-image ? |
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| 20:09.58 | cr2 | the GT app of kiozen simply kicks ass :) |
| 20:10.29 | cr2 | with some minor fixes we will beat a lot of shareware. |
| 20:11.02 | kiozen | thinks: minor fixes, that sounds like major rebuild |
| 20:11.10 | BabelO | mpm |
| 20:11.40 | cr2 | lol |
| 20:12.07 | kiozen | cr2: I know you wishes, still trying to compile gpsd |
| 20:12.21 | kiozen | task 597 of 689 |
| 20:12.34 | cr2 | the doubleclick on the pin should highlight the gcp table line |
| 20:12.48 | cr2 | i don't think it's a major rebuild :) |
| 20:13.03 | kiozen | sure as easy as building gpsd :) |
| 20:13.16 | kiozen | and that is a major rebuild of oe |
| 20:13.23 | kiozen | ;) |
| 20:13.25 | cr2 | ok. |
| 20:13.45 | kiozen | but had to do it anyway one day |
| 20:14.05 | kiozen | if qtopia will work after that? |
| 20:15.12 | cr2 | you'll see. |
| 20:15.51 | kiozen | no, you'll see if it still works with new rootfs :P |
| 20:16.34 | cr2 | ok. |
| 20:17.07 | kiozen | best you save the old one and merge in the parts you need of the new one |
| 20:17.14 | cr2 | i'm calibrating the file.png with autogenerated file.png.gcp |
| 20:17.42 | cr2 | just moving the pins, and removing the redundant. very nice and easy to use program :) |
| 20:18.00 | kiozen | yes, but you get a "mouse hand" |
| 20:18.29 | cr2 | it may be helpful if the program autoloaded file.png.gcp for file.png, if it exists. |
| 20:18.44 | cr2 | i think qgis georeferencer does it |
| 20:18.57 | cr2 | load file.png.points for file.png |
| 20:19.47 | cr2 | the affine/quadratic modes should be probably shadowed if the gcp count <3 (<6) |
| 20:20.33 | kiozen | no, that would break the topo->bottom work flow |
| 20:20.50 | kiozen | blocking the go on button is enoght |
| 20:21.01 | cr2 | ok. |
| 20:21.11 | kiozen | yeah! it compiled gpsd |
| 20:21.22 | cr2 | but the 'go on' should reject it then. |
| 20:21.31 | kiozen | task 662 of 689, still some packages to go |
| 20:21.39 | cr2 | or the user gets some cryptic gdalwarp message. |
| 20:21.42 | cr2 | not that much. |
| 20:22.14 | kiozen | go on is disabled if you do not have the minimum number of gcps |
| 20:23.08 | kiozen | why on earth do I need a full blown python installation on an embedded device? |
| 20:23.37 | cr2 | because of the lazy people not using c++ ? |
| 20:24.16 | cr2 | no, i'm just pleased because of such nice linux applications for the pda/phone :) |
| 20:25.04 | kiozen | ok, where does bitbake hide the rootfs once again? |
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| 20:31.57 | kiozen | cr2: sent you the image data for gpsd |
| 20:36.37 | cr2 | got it. |
| 20:37.42 | cr2 | ah, now i know what python is needed. |
| 20:38.27 | kiozen | me too ;) |
| 20:39.19 | cr2 | image/usr/bin/.debug/* ? |
| 20:39.51 | kiozen | seems to be the debug version |
| 20:40.06 | kiozen | don't ask me what bitbake is doing |
| 20:40.15 | cr2 | hmm. how do i strip the toplevel dir from tar ? |
| 20:40.43 | cr2 | at least we know what should be done to disable python |
| 20:41.05 | kiozen | i would decompress it and copy the content to the rootfs |
| 20:43.05 | cr2 | ttyS3 is hardcoded as default. |
| 20:43.13 | cr2 | we should change it to ttyS2 |
| 20:43.33 | cr2 | a weird remnant from sl5500 times :) |
| 20:43.57 | kiozen | gpsd _is_ weird |
| 20:44.06 | cr2 | yeah. |
| 20:45.42 | cr2 | what is the latest tagged haret version ? |
| 20:45.56 | cr2 | i need working linboot.exe |
| 20:46.12 | cr2 | this zimage/default.txt mess drives me crazy :) |
| 20:46.35 | kiozen | is happy that it's not only him |
| 20:48.14 | cr2 | it's ok for debugging, i.e. for HARET, but not for booting. |
| 20:48.53 | cr2 | booting |
| 20:49.34 | cr2 | M barfs about QtSvg |
| 20:50.07 | cr2 | S50-usb-gadget : syntax error |
| 20:50.27 | cr2 | ok, logged in. |
| 20:50.55 | cr2 | cat /dev/ttyS2 gives nmea |
| 20:51.23 | cr2 | edited /etc/default/gpsd.default |
| 20:51.34 | kiozen | QtSvg? funny |
| 20:51.44 | cr2 | Starting gpsd: No GPS device, aborting gpsd startup. Check /etc/default/gpsd |
| 20:51.47 | cr2 | wtf ? |
| 20:51.50 | cr2 | ah. i know. |
| 20:52.08 | cr2 | cp /etc/default/gpsd.default /etc/default/gpsd |
| 20:52.14 | cr2 | very user-friendly :) |
| 20:52.29 | cr2 | Starting gpsd: success |
| 20:52.54 | cr2 | telnet localhost 2947 |
| 20:53.10 | cr2 | q |
| 20:53.10 | cr2 | GPSD,Q=0 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 |
| 20:53.30 | cr2 | hmm. too far from the window ;) |
| 20:53.54 | cr2 | ok, whas it 'cgps' ? |
| 20:54.00 | cr2 | i cal also try sirfmon. |
| 20:54.06 | cr2 | s/cal/can/ |
| 20:54.32 | cr2 | cgps |
| 20:54.34 | cr2 | GPSD,W=1 |
| 20:54.35 | cr2 | GPSD,O=? |
| 20:54.35 | cr2 | GPSD,I=SiRF binary GSW3.1.1HTC_3.1.00.07-C23P1.00a |
| 20:54.41 | cr2 | haha |
| 20:54.48 | cr2 | fw hacked by htc |
| 20:54.51 | goxboxlive_ | BabelO: i think so, should i try |
| 20:55.26 | cr2 | sirfmon is better |
| 20:55.42 | cr2 | it obviously picked the last fix from sirf SRAM :) |
| 20:56.05 | kiozen | is the o command working? |
| 20:56.05 | BabelO | goxboxlive_: it just fail when i build bitbake virtual/kernel , it fail in glibc |
| 20:56.32 | goxboxlive_ | BabelO: yes, it where build. Ohh do a pull and it will build. PH5 updated glib today |
| 20:57.05 | cr2 | kiozen: in sirfmon ? |
| 20:57.14 | kiozen | no telnet |
| 20:57.20 | BabelO | goxboxlive_: i update to time today |
| 20:57.23 | cr2 | o |
| 20:57.23 | cr2 | GPSD,O=? |
| 20:57.25 | BabelO | ok, have to go |
| 20:57.26 | BabelO | bbl* |
| 20:57.36 | kiozen | cr2: do you have a fix? |
| 20:57.44 | cr2 | no. |
| 20:57.56 | kiozen | but GPSD,O=? is better than just GPSD |
| 20:58.17 | cr2 | i need to disconnect the keyboard and connect it to the usb host port |
| 20:58.22 | cr2 | and go to the window. |
| 20:58.38 | cr2 | can't disconnect the notebook, because my home is over nfs ;) |
| 20:58.48 | kiozen | hehe, wifi would be nice now |
| 20:59.13 | kiozen | but you finger in the antenna connector :P |
| 20:59.34 | cr2 | i don't have the matching connector |
| 21:00.02 | cr2 | the antenna for my old pcmcia sirf2 for sl5500 works perfectly with 76Cx |
| 21:00.37 | cr2 | going to the window. bbl |
| 21:00.45 | kiozen | yes FSC choose the one with the more expensive antennas :( |
| 21:00.54 | kiozen | :) |
| 21:12.33 | cr2 | kiozen: ok, got a fix. |
| 21:12.37 | cr2 | o works |
| 21:12.41 | cr2 | cgps works |
| 21:12.45 | cr2 | sirmon sux |
| 21:13.03 | cr2 | after i exited sirfmon, it can't start again ;) |
| 21:13.14 | kiozen | big question: is statitic navigation on by defualt? |
| 21:13.38 | cr2 | don't know, but it's easy to change |
| 21:13.53 | cr2 | by patching sirfmon, if it does not support it yet. |
| 21:17.24 | cr2 | i need to fix the backlight driver |
| 21:20.13 | kiozen | cr2: svn up, for select gcp in list when clicking on icon |
| 21:20.51 | cr2 | ok. |
| 21:21.00 | cr2 | i shutdown n560 |
| 21:21.07 | cr2 | because of the backlight |
| 22:05.25 | kiozen | cr2: released QLandkarte GT to the public :) |
| 22:06.06 | cr2 | ok :) |
| 22:06.14 | cr2 | congratulations! |
| 22:06.19 | kiozen | let the bug report flow! |
| 22:09.05 | cr2 | :) |
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| 22:10.54 | cr2 | i need some extra features, but will think about them. |
| 22:12.30 | clarkee | :( no support for htc touch |
| 22:16.12 | clarkee | i want a small/tiny umpc kinda device, super low power that runs linux/x |
| 22:16.20 | clarkee | even if it's only bluetooth and wifi |
| 22:16.23 | clarkee | ill be happy |
| 22:16.25 | clarkee | any suggestions? |
| 22:18.22 | cr2 | umpc ? |
| 22:26.43 | cr2 | kiozen: updating GT |
| 22:27.47 | kiozen | sorry no precompiled binary yet ;) |
| 22:28.23 | cr2 | don't see qlandkarte svn :( |
| 22:28.52 | clarkee | cr2: ultra mobile pc |
| 22:28.57 | clarkee | it's some crap marketing term |
| 22:30.07 | cr2 | clarkee: exactly :) what do you really want ? i don't think touch is umpc. athena, maybe... |
| 22:30.32 | kiozen | cr2: works for me |
| 22:30.50 | cr2 | kiozen: it's the evil wifi card |
| 22:31.05 | cr2 | installed the second default route. |
| 22:31.19 | cr2 | ooh. many changes. |
| 22:31.27 | cr2 | and a tag. |
| 22:31.45 | kiozen | sure had to find a solution for that BETA2007 file |
| 22:32.21 | cr2 | hmm. need to switch ccmake to 4.3.4 |
| 22:33.37 | cr2 | compiling |
| 22:34.08 | cr2 | kiozen: i've a program to convert ozf2 to tiff with gcps. |
| 22:34.20 | cr2 | it is written in c, and does not use gdal |
| 22:34.40 | cr2 | can't convert the projection because of that. |
| 22:35.04 | kiozen | hm, what license? |
| 22:35.26 | cr2 | self-written ;) |
| 22:35.50 | kiozen | lol, without GDAL? |
| 22:36.29 | cr2 | yes. |
| 22:36.56 | cr2 | but i can hardcode a translation table. |
| 22:37.04 | cr2 | gdal is not really needed |
| 22:37.06 | kiozen | isn't it you always telling that GDAL is the way to go :D |
| 22:37.15 | cr2 | just an annoying dependency. |
| 22:37.22 | kiozen | LOL |
| 22:37.34 | cr2 | yes, but not for that kind of a program. |
| 22:38.02 | cr2 | i don't see any big advantage for using gdal here. |
| 22:38.32 | cr2 | i may have written the gdal driver. |
| 22:38.46 | cr2 | but i dislike to write non-gpl software :) |
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| 22:39.13 | kiozen | a driver would be nice :) |
| 22:39.39 | cr2 | ok, i'll think about it. |
| 22:40.20 | cr2 | i think the ecw driver is gpl ? |
| 22:40.36 | kiozen | it's just legal issues that kept me from writing mpr2gtif as driver |
| 22:40.57 | cr2 | ozf2 is undocumented too. |
| 22:41.19 | cr2 | and i usually don't read shareware licenses |
| 22:41.56 | kiozen | EADS is not really what you would call a shareware company |
| 22:42.06 | cr2 | i've seen a funny link for you yesterday. |
| 22:42.10 | cr2 | i mean ozf2 |
| 22:43.02 | cr2 | here :) |
| 22:43.03 | cr2 | http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=505 |
| 22:45.33 | kiozen | oh, they gave a real detailed answer, that was realy nice |
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| 22:46.44 | cr2 | kiozen: i liked the part where they say, we destroy old maps, but still keep all rights :) |
| 22:47.44 | kiozen | hm, that is just current law, you can't loose you copyright, even if you destroy your masters |
| 22:48.13 | cr2 | ok |
| 22:49.00 | kiozen | time to sleep, my junior will get up early to chaise the easter bunny :) |
| 22:49.07 | kiozen | good night |
| 22:49.09 | cr2 | good night. |
| 22:49.11 | tsdogs | kiozen: congratulations for the release, u need to update the site |
| 22:49.15 | tsdogs | good night |
| 22:49.24 | kiozen | isn't it update? |
| 22:49.35 | tsdogs | not the download ... |
| 22:49.36 | kiozen | tsdogs: ? |
| 22:49.55 | kiozen | ah, ok, I'll do this later, thanks for telling me |
| 22:49.59 | kiozen | bbl |
| 22:50.01 | tsdogs | qlandkarte gt/m still talks about the cvs |
| 22:50.13 | tsdogs | ok |
| 22:51.14 | cr2 | tsdogs: there are many things that need an update there. |
| 22:51.55 | tsdogs | lol, I know, but making a source download link available makes it more likely to be downloaded by people |
| 22:52.25 | tsdogs | site is nice, and screenshots tell the great work kiozen and u have done :) |
| 22:52.58 | tsdogs | hmm also screenshots need to be updated :) |
| 22:54.39 | cr2 | i've done some really evil things in background :) |
| 22:54.51 | tsdogs | :) |
| 22:55.34 | cr2 | it'll become really interesting when gpsd will be added to M |
| 22:56.43 | tsdogs | yes. I don't understand why kiozen does not simply take the code from roadmap on this. |
| 22:56.59 | cr2 | and it's extremely important that we used gdal/ogr as a backend library. |
| 22:57.22 | cr2 | you don't mess with the work of an artist :) |
| 22:57.28 | tsdogs | lol |
| 22:57.57 | cr2 | i think he must have his own reasons, so let him decide. |
| 22:58.32 | cr2 | i've learned one important thing in the process |
| 22:59.13 | tsdogs | wow you missed something to be learned ? :) |
| 22:59.31 | cr2 | that i probably need to switch from bash+awk+ogr2ogr in preparing the map for roadmap to python. |
| 23:00.03 | cr2 | the gdal/ogr python binding is really nice. |
| 23:00.52 | cr2 | but i'm also working on the .mp parser in C, so it can be reused. |
| 23:01.01 | cr2 | thanks to your string splitter, btw :) |
| 23:01.06 | tsdogs | yes, and having an easy string manipulation language is of help |
| 23:01.28 | tsdogs | cr2: lol |
| 23:01.49 | cr2 | it's not really the strings, but the shapefile geometry support, and dbf support. |
| 23:01.53 | tsdogs | no need to thank, what should I say about my Uni running linux ? |
| 23:02.08 | tsdogs | TTTTTTTTTTTHHHHHHHHHXXXXXXXXXXXX |
| 23:02.11 | cr2 | that it should be finished :) |
| 23:02.51 | tsdogs | cr2: I think we only miss to handle the suspend right with qtopia then it's pretty finished yes |
| 23:02.58 | cr2 | the linload.exe is broken now, which i think is bad. |
| 23:03.20 | cr2 | the camera(s) |
| 23:03.43 | tsdogs | cr2: I can live without it, but would be nice. |
| 23:04.06 | tsdogs | cr2: is kernel suspend ok on Uni, or it needs work? |
| 23:04.34 | cr2 | only the acx suspend |
| 23:04.43 | cr2 | is suboptimal |
| 23:05.00 | tsdogs | what's the best way to suspend leaving the phone on |
| 23:05.03 | cr2 | the asic3 suspend code is not nice too. |
| 23:05.43 | tsdogs | I had it kill my battery in only a few hours, even with lcd off... |
| 23:06.03 | cr2 | not nice = not quite right |
| 23:06.05 | tsdogs | cr2: should we use apm? |
| 23:06.25 | tsdogs | or simply power everithing possible off? |
| 23:06.27 | cr2 | not suspending the phone is not that easy. |
| 23:06.42 | cr2 | what about the data channel ? |
| 23:06.50 | tsdogs | usbnet? |
| 23:07.07 | cr2 | usb host |
| 23:07.25 | cr2 | btw, we should check the usb host bits |
| 23:07.31 | tsdogs | cr2: no idea, should first find a cable to use that |
| 23:07.57 | cr2 | can you pick the gnu-haret from jornada820 and run 'dump pxa27x' ? |
| 23:08.09 | cr2 | i don't remember where is my uni :) |
| 23:08.20 | tsdogs | sure, but u need to guide me |
| 23:08.35 | tsdogs | ok rebooting into ce |
| 23:08.41 | cr2 | i have the usb host bits right on n560 and on athena. both work as expected. |
| 23:10.08 | tsdogs | cr2: why the jornada820 haret? |
| 23:10.39 | tsdogs | 0.5.1 ? |
| 23:17.05 | cr2 | no, the old gnu-haret at jornada820.sf.net/files/haret |
| 23:17.19 | cr2 | because i've not ported the 'dump pxa27x' to the mainline |
| 23:17.35 | cr2 | there are many nice things there that wait to be ported. |
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| 23:29.47 | tsdogs_ | cr2: sorry pc hang, |
| 23:29.59 | tsdogs_ | hmm haretconsole can't connect ... |
| 23:30.23 | cr2 | strange. |
| 23:31.00 | tsdogs_ | cr2: I think I need to update haret on device too :) |
| 23:32.03 | tsdogs_ | switching Pc now :) |
| 23:32.07 | cr2 | ok. |
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| 23:32.46 | tsdogs__ | cr2: is it better via usb or wifi? |
| 23:36.01 | tsdogs | hmm seems haret is turning off my wifi (?) |
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| 23:46.26 | Traveler0 | anyone know what's the diff between msm7200 and msm7200A ? |
| 23:47.45 | tsdogs_ | cr2: u know what ip winm uses when connected with rndis? |
| 23:49.09 | cr2 | no. google |
| 23:49.38 | cr2 | Traveler0: usb, interrupt controller+gpio and probably video. |
| 23:50.25 | cr2 | Traveler0: linux was successfully booted on msm7200, but it's only at it beginnings. |
| 23:50.43 | Traveler0 | using the msm7200A support? |
| 23:51.08 | Traveler0 | is the a group working on it? |
| 23:51.15 | Traveler0 | *their |
| 23:52.04 | Traveler0 | is their forum, repo, irc, or website devoted to it? |
| 23:59.05 | cr2 | no. |
| 23:59.27 | cr2 | 7200A is made by androids. git.android.com |
| 23:59.53 | cr2 | 7200 support is a nice hack made by dzo |