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| 01:11.19 | psionfenix | coffee is my friend. |
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| 01:42.45 | psionfenix | Hey dzo |
| 01:44.58 | psionfenix | anyone know much about the OKL4 kernel? |
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| 02:33.45 | psionfenix | dzo: you paying attention in here? |
| 02:43.07 | dzo | yes |
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| 02:43.46 | psionfenix | I got further with that new kernel, it didnt mtd part, msm_nand out on me, got to ANDROID_ |
| 02:44.18 | psionfenix | so, i'm playing with the initrd you have up there, and its not working for me (the one i was using got me where i was) |
| 02:45.16 | dzo | hmm, it's either running out of memory or the button driver is messing something up what ramsize have you got in default.txt? |
| 02:45.28 | psionfenix | im using your default.txt |
| 02:45.36 | psionfenix | (but i'm also using a titan) |
| 02:46.39 | dzo | try changing ramsize to 56M |
| 02:48.01 | dzo | or 64M might work thats 0x04000000 |
| 02:48.31 | psionfenix | Ok, let me reset from this last attempt and try that. |
| 02:48.44 | psionfenix | I usually get the pages error with initrd-android |
| 02:48.54 | dzo | looks like somebody got my zImage to boot on kaiser too. |
| 02:48.56 | psionfenix | should i continue trying that one or use the renamed ramdisk.img that got me as far as i got |
| 02:49.06 | psionfenix | you're a genius, dzo :P |
| 02:50.17 | dzo | well, if you're not using the android initrd, it won't boot android. zImage is just the kernel. What you probably need is a stripped down initrd. |
| 02:51.09 | psionfenix | yeah. i think the one on your site is too big for my craptastic-ram |
| 02:52.17 | dzo | I already stripped out a lot of stuff but it's probably possible to get it smaller. Do you have linux box you can use. |
| 02:52.52 | psionfenix | yeah, i only use windows for flashing roms. |
| 02:53.30 | psionfenix | hmm, it just started to load the progress bar, then reset itself...maybe my initrd is corrupted? i'll try commenting it out real quick |
| 02:53.53 | psionfenix | i've never reset my device so much, haha |
| 02:54.26 | dzo | ok, initrd is just a gzipped cpio archive, extract it somewhere, remove things that don't look useful, package it up again and try it out. |
| 02:56.05 | psionfenix | commented it out and just got tux only |
| 02:56.12 | psionfenix | I have it extracted already, actually |
| 02:56.56 | dzo | ok, to pack it up again, use cpio -H newc |
| 02:57.35 | dzo | sorry, got to go now.. let me know how you get on. |
| 02:57.45 | psionfenix | alright man, thanks :) |
| 03:27.32 | psionfenix | erm...crap |
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| 07:21.01 | BabelO_ | hi |
| 07:24.08 | kiozen | BabelO_: morning |
| 07:24.33 | BabelO_ | morning kiozen |
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| 07:36.27 | psionfenix | wow, i suck at initrd. |
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| 08:15.07 | xtedy067 | hello |
| 08:17.41 | xtedy067 | Is it possible to use gprs connection on htc with linux installed? |
| 08:22.19 | BabelO_ | xtedy067: which HTc ? |
| 08:22.29 | BabelO_ | or what HTC :) |
| 08:25.31 | xtedy067 | universal |
| 08:28.00 | xtedy067 | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:36.43 | BabelO_ | xtedy067: yes gprs works on htc universal |
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| 08:40.22 | xtedy067 | What image should be used for it? |
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| 08:42.41 | BabelO_ | xtedy946: http://www.linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcuniversal/images/Qtopia/ |
| 08:45.09 | xtedy946 | And does qtopia have a terminal? |
| 08:58.01 | BabelO_ | xtedy946: there is an external application to compile and install, not in this image |
| 09:02.05 | xtedy946 | Ok, thanks. I haven't found it there. Don't you know about some documentation about gprs problems in linux, or about compilation under qtopia? |
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| 09:26.14 | BabelO_ | xtedy946: it is there, you just need to found the startup script under devtools menu i think |
| 09:26.56 | BabelO_ | xtedy946: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=251584 |
| 09:27.04 | BabelO_ | good luck, thread is very long |
| 09:50.02 | xtedy946 | ok thx |
| 09:52.48 | xtedy946 | http://doc.trolltech.com/qtopia2.1/html/qtopia-gprs-networking.html |
| 09:57.22 | BabelO_ | xtedy946: qtopia already to this, on universal you need to send AT@USBPOWER=1 which bring up /dev/ttyUSB0 which is the gprs data channel |
| 10:13.53 | Marex | cr2_, hi, prepare for another megapatch |
| 10:13.55 | Marex | palmld |
| 10:34.25 | raph_ael | http://hiphoneproductreview.blogspot.com/ |
| 10:34.29 | raph_ael | not very on topic but do someone knows if something is done on hiphones : |
| 10:34.40 | raph_ael | i melted my posts :) |
| 10:35.03 | raph_ael | they seem quite nice devices |
| 10:38.14 | cr2_ | hi |
| 10:38.32 | cr2_ | raph_ael: which cpu do they use ? |
| 10:39.21 | raph_ael | cr2_: i'll look further for some specs |
| 10:39.32 | raph_ael | i haven't searched much for the moment |
| 10:40.41 | cr2_ | BabelO_: i'm very impressed with the medion tracks quality at low speed. maybe since it's a car navigator it is very powerhungry, but does a very good tracking/filtering job. |
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| 11:04.13 | zoolooc | hi there |
| 11:04.31 | zoolooc | I salute you, dzo, you're tha man! |
| 11:04.37 | kiozen | cr2_: if you know good trackfiltering algorithms with ready to use coefficients I would like to hear about it ;) |
| 11:05.00 | zoolooc | dzo: just reading the forums you got android up and running on vogue |
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| 11:32.16 | BabelO_ | cr2_: strange thing with M is that static nav is not enabled since i use gps2blue on my artemis, don't now why |
| 11:33.05 | BabelO_ | cr2_: i ve updated artemis and blueangel page at handhelds.org and made a post on xanadux forum about linux on bluenagel, because someone say it is slower than windaube ! |
| 11:47.15 | cr2_ | kiozen: gpsbabel has some track filtering implemented ? |
| 11:47.30 | cr2_ | BabelO_: ok. |
| 11:47.57 | BabelO_ | cr2_: does medion fix quickly ? |
| 11:49.05 | cr2_ | kiozen: i've documented the LCD spi stuff. now i need to check the byteorder for multibyte transmissions, not to destroy the LCD in process :) |
| 11:49.36 | cr2_ | BabelO_: yes, but it's probably unfair, because it always stores the last fix. |
| 11:49.51 | cr2_ | so it's not a real cold start. |
| 11:49.56 | BabelO_ | cr2_: ok like on artemis |
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| 12:05.28 | timi | is it possible to run linux on my htc touch cruise ? |
| 12:07.01 | Marex | cr2_, hi, is map_desc useful anymore > |
| 12:07.02 | Marex | ? |
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| 12:46.44 | cr2_ | Marex: don't think so, unless you have some very special needs. |
| 12:47.21 | Marex | ok |
| 13:02.35 | dcordes_ | hi |
| 13:02.59 | Marex | cr2_, I have some problem with harddrive driver, but everything else seems ok |
| 13:03.07 | Marex | cr2_, expect patch soon |
| 13:06.52 | cr2_ | ok |
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| 13:16.06 | Dhrly06 | Hi |
| 13:16.24 | Dhrly06 | i got a question |
| 13:18.21 | Dhrly06 | migrated to "ubuntu " (& very happy ) now i need to migrate to linux on my handheld ! htc hermes any suggestions ? |
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| 13:19.03 | Marex | stick with windows on both your desktop and handheld if you like it so much |
| 13:19.13 | zwox | hi there |
| 13:19.26 | Marex | zwox, hi |
| 13:20.01 | zwox | hey, i was wondering if the linux port on htc hermes is going on or if it is abondonned, because i can't found any recent build |
| 13:20.45 | Dhrly06 | nope off winblows for good !! |
| 13:22.38 | zwox | well i have to find a recent build |
| 13:25.12 | Dhrly06 | anybody ? |
| 13:25.18 | Marex | zwox, use OE and build it yourself ;) |
| 13:26.33 | BabelO_ | kiozen: this one is for you http://moblin.org/projects/projects_ppm.php |
| 13:27.57 | zwox | thank you |
| 13:28.06 | cr2_ | guys, hermes is stuck because of the ATI SD driver. it seems nobody wants to finish it, and i'm busy with finishing the n560 support myself. |
| 13:28.42 | kiozen | BabelO_: they don't like mobile devices |
| 13:28.47 | cr2_ | but there are some other minor things one can do better. the serial ports (BT and phone) come to mind, and the NAND driver. |
| 13:28.49 | zwox | cr2_: yeah i've heard about it |
| 13:29.24 | Marex | and I have no hermes but am busy too |
| 13:30.03 | cr2_ | zwox: somebody should dump the respective register values with haret, and read the samsung manual, and check with the kernel source. |
| 13:30.32 | zwox | cr2_: i see |
| 13:30.55 | cr2_ | zwox: i've tried to do it many moons ago, and couldn't do it very fast. maybe i've just misunderstood something. |
| 13:31.14 | zwox | i'm busy with my pma 400 and my nintendo DS now, but i'll try |
| 13:31.15 | cr2_ | the samsung manual is not that great like the pxa2xx manuals. |
| 13:31.55 | cr2_ | it all boils down to the UART divisor calculation given some core CPU speed register settings. |
| 13:32.33 | cr2_ | the NAND routing has some too conservative timing too. hmm, a similar problem. |
| 13:33.14 | zwox | i see |
| 13:33.14 | cr2_ | the NAND itself is detected properly, but then whines about some ECC problems. |
| 13:34.16 | zwox | well i'll have to read what had been done on xda-dev and try by my self |
| 13:34.32 | cr2_ | maybe HTC did something strange, but i'm not a NAND expert, therefore i'd prefer to to the ATI SD first. it#s also not a simple task, but seems easier than NANAD. at least for me. |
| 13:34.44 | zwox | we succed in boot a kernel on a htc trinity but phone function wasn't available |
| 13:35.11 | cr2_ | btw, trinity has different serial and NAND settings from hermes. |
| 13:35.40 | cr2_ | once you'll get the UART clocks right, the BT and the phone (AT part) should be working |
| 13:35.50 | cr2_ | and IR of course |
| 13:35.51 | zwox | yes bu i didn't knew |
| 13:36.04 | zwox | i discover that trying to boot the same kernel on my hermes |
| 13:36.21 | cr2_ | i guess that the UMTS is like on the universal, and uses the USB host port. |
| 13:37.39 | cr2_ | so it should work too, once you'll have serial AT port working, and will send the USB powerup command to MSM6275 |
| 13:38.48 | zwox | okay, i don't know well the hermes yet |
| 13:38.54 | cr2_ | the voice source switching is done by ak4641 (like on the universal), so the voice mic and speaker should be easy to do too. |
| 13:39.12 | cr2_ | playing sound is tough |
| 13:39.15 | zwox | i've got it since a few days |
| 13:39.39 | cr2_ | because (AFAIK) it uses the I2S on the ATI chip, not the PXA I2S. |
| 13:39.49 | zwox | so i've just try to boot it in bootloader mode and then connect to it with minicom but there is nothing to do here |
| 13:40.05 | zwox | so i'll try to dump with haret |
| 13:40.23 | cr2_ | do you have the 2442 manual ? |
| 13:40.35 | zwox | i've juste tried to dev some apps with windows media studio's framework ( i'm ashamed ) |
| 13:41.04 | zwox | cr2_: nop, d'ya know where i can get one please ? |
| 13:41.06 | cr2_ | i have it, but it seems samsung removed (or moved) it from their site. |
| 13:41.33 | cr2_ | once a wince app can be compiled with arm-wince-gcc (like haret or vlc) then it's ok :) |
| 13:42.40 | zwox | yep |
| 13:42.55 | cr2_ | such datasheets are of course useless http://www.samsung.com/global/system/business/semiconductor/product/2007/7/7/046670sc32442_msp.pdf |
| 13:43.12 | zwox | so i'm playing with c# now, but i never used it before ... |
| 13:43.34 | zwox | but i'm used to dev in c or cpp so i think it'll be ok |
| 13:43.41 | cr2_ | i have SC32442A45_Users_Manual_Rev11.pdf |
| 13:44.11 | cr2_ | google returns nothing :( |
| 13:44.38 | zwox | thank you |
| 13:45.49 | cr2_ | BabelO: adding .pdf to CVS is not a good idea ? |
| 13:46.56 | cr2_ | http://www.meritech.co.kr/products/product_view.php?num=52 |
| 13:47.25 | cr2_ | yeah, but the links lead nowhere. |
| 13:49.07 | zwox | yeah |
| 13:50.03 | zwox | well ... let's try |
| 13:50.33 | cr2_ | i may look for the password, and upload all the datasheets i have to htc-linux.org maybe. |
| 13:50.39 | xtedy946 | is it possible in qtopia rotate screen? |
| 13:53.16 | BabelO_ | xtedy946: not at the moment, planned in qtopia 4.4 release, sorry |
| 13:54.22 | BabelO_ | cr2_: pdf into cvs ? we do that here |
| 13:54.26 | cr2_ | xtedy946: you may try to rotate the kernel fb. but it'll be static then. |
| 13:55.00 | cr2_ | BabelO_: i don't know why this datasheet is not available anywhere. |
| 13:55.36 | cr2_ | it's 632 pages |
| 13:55.42 | cr2_ | with a lot of bugs :) |
| 13:56.59 | cr2_ | the SA11xx* datasheets are at jornada820.sf.net |
| 13:57.13 | cr2_ | and i have the PXA26x and PXA27x datasheets too. |
| 13:57.35 | cr2_ | hmm. maybe i'll even find the SH4 datasheet |
| 13:57.56 | cr2_ | zwox: nintendo DS ? is it also using SH4 cpu ? |
| 13:58.28 | zwox | not really |
| 13:58.47 | zwox | in fact the nintendo DS is using both arm9 and arm7 |
| 13:58.51 | BabelO_ | cr2_: wouah ! i just found this today but was looking for since many time now ;) http://gsmloc.org/ and http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/GeoClue , humm i need more and more holiday |
| 13:59.04 | zwox | try dslinux.org |
| 13:59.18 | zwox | there is a complete portage of uClinux |
| 13:59.36 | cr2_ | zwox: which one had SH4 ? |
| 13:59.51 | zwox | so the only thing i did was to recompil a kernel |
| 13:59.59 | cr2_ | BabelO_: you can do it wth +CREG=2 too. |
| 14:00.26 | zwox | duno |
| 14:00.31 | kiozen | BabelO_: I fixed that lousy dialog / ts / map moving bug :) |
| 14:00.42 | BabelO_ | cr2_: yes i know , but with the database, i can add single localisation |
| 14:01.00 | BabelO_ | kiozen: very good :) |
| 14:01.35 | cr2_ | BabelO_: +creg=2 and gps may give some nice logs :) |
| 14:01.44 | zwox | i just found out the dslinux.org website, so i didn't search more information |
| 14:02.05 | zwox | juste wanted to boot a linux embded |
| 14:02.11 | zwox | just* |
| 14:02.12 | cr2_ | zwox: sorry, it was gamecube. |
| 14:02.24 | kiozen | BabelO_ and as usual stupid simple :) just reimplement bool event() in the base class and digest all unused events |
| 14:02.30 | BabelO_ | cr2_: but when you have no gps ;) google want to do so on androids, to display advice when you reach a cofee shop or a pub :) |
| 14:02.37 | cr2_ | hm. dreamcast :) |
| 14:03.09 | kiozen | BabelO_: I do not need googles advice when I reach a pub - I need a beer! |
| 14:03.11 | BabelO_ | cr2_: accuracy can be around 1 km in a town |
| 14:03.12 | zwox | cr2_: okay |
| 14:03.25 | cr2_ | BabelO_: they are in a spy'n'spam business. i'm not :) |
| 14:08.31 | Marex | cr2_, looks like I need that map_desc for harddrive |
| 14:14.46 | dcordes_ | BabelO_: stop now. you want to drink a coffee. |
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| 16:54.24 | BabelO | hi pH5 |
| 16:55.20 | pH5 | hi BabelO |
| 16:56.06 | BabelO | pH5: did you look at acx ? :) |
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| 16:57.18 | pH5 | not yet.. |
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| 17:23.31 | pH5 | heh |
| 17:23.58 | pH5 | gives up trying to check out hh.org cvs and decides to use the mobile-linux git repo's hh.org branch instead |
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| 17:49.56 | Nickbee | hello everyone |
| 17:50.09 | Nickbee | whats new these days at htc-linux front? |
| 17:53.13 | Nickbee | hello cr2: are you working on athena these days ? |
| 17:55.17 | pH5 | hi Nickbee |
| 17:55.30 | Nickbee | Hello pH5 |
| 17:55.37 | Nickbee | how are you doing? |
| 17:56.00 | Nickbee | are you guys working for porting linux on athena these days ? |
| 17:56.23 | pH5 | cr2_ has been mostly working on n560 and some gps devices as I understand |
| 17:58.12 | pH5 | I'm working on getting magician ready for mainline, trying to get hx4700 and blueangel to run on 2.6.25 mostly. and I play with n810 dsp and powervr a bit |
| 17:58.51 | pH5 | right now I'm checking out BabelO's work on mac80211/acx. |
| 17:59.19 | Nickbee | Ok |
| 17:59.50 | Nickbee | i read somewhere that cr2 was able to boot linux and use qtopia 4 on athena |
| 17:59.54 | Nickbee | from usb stick |
| 18:00.09 | Nickbee | that immediatly caught my attention |
| 18:00.11 | Nickbee | :) |
| 18:00.48 | pH5 | yes, I think the ati/sd and mdoc/flash parts were the biggest missing bits? |
| 18:01.09 | Nickbee | from my perspective, its GSM |
| 18:01.44 | Nickbee | as i guess people can live without ati/sd or even without flash ... if they can use linux phone |
| 18:01.52 | pH5 | heh, right. |
| 18:02.12 | Nickbee | you see, GSM is the key from my perspective, if you can start using the phone as a phone, you can grow on that |
| 18:02.39 | Nickbee | but if the phone itself is not working, then its more of an accessory and will not catch up |
| 18:02.59 | Nickbee | or in other words, will not get the respect it deserves |
| 18:03.25 | pH5 | that's certainly true to a certain degree |
| 18:03.39 | pH5 | although I on the other hand want my phone to just work and not to hack on it |
| 18:04.07 | Nickbee | thats exactly my point ... |
| 18:04.32 | Nickbee | you see if the phone in linux device is not working or partially working, not everyone will use it |
| 18:04.51 | Nickbee | on the otherhand if you are confident about phone, rest of the things are add-ons :) |
| 18:05.01 | Nickbee | anyways ... |
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| 18:05.34 | Nickbee | I am using athena these days and even with an awesome hardware ... windows mobile just don't perform |
| 18:06.17 | Nickbee | I am a new age developer (not aware much about internals and drivers), i wish i could get some time out and help in this project |
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| 18:06.42 | Nickbee | but i think i will need to wait till my new venture gets stable |
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| 19:04.45 | cr2_ | Nickbee: how are you going to use athena without an SD as a phone ? with the USB cable and hanging HDD ? :) |
| 19:05.55 | psionfenix | sounds like a new trend. |
| 19:06.16 | psionfenix | rigs up a hdd to a necklace. "Now I'm styling!" |
| 19:08.00 | cr2_ | psionfenix: lol. do you know how big is athena ? |
| 19:08.14 | psionfenix | nah, i was just trying to be funny. :P |
| 19:08.26 | psionfenix | i've got a freaking titan. :( |
| 19:08.30 | cr2_ | athena is not really a phone. |
| 19:09.07 | psionfenix | just a handheld? |
| 19:09.08 | cr2_ | and afaik you can't just "talk" to it. |
| 19:09.20 | psionfenix | i was bummed when i found out the shift isn't a phone |
| 19:09.32 | cr2_ | BT headset, or maybe the wired headset. |
| 19:10.11 | psionfenix | ew! wires! |
| 19:10.27 | cr2_ | shift is a 800MHz notebook, with a ~kaiser bolted on the motherboard. i don't know if it will support voice call without soldering. |
| 19:11.11 | psionfenix | yeah. |
| 19:11.21 | psionfenix | i've decided i'll probably just purchase an eeepc anyway |
| 19:11.28 | psionfenix | and keep my mogul as a phone. |
| 19:11.40 | cr2_ | imho it's a better idea. |
| 19:12.07 | psionfenix | yeah |
| 19:12.16 | psionfenix | I wouldnt mind a cdma kaiser though |
| 19:12.38 | cr2_ | and 800MHz x86 cpu needs a bit more power than 624MHz pxa270 |
| 19:12.43 | kiozen | imagines eeepc as gps |
| 19:13.28 | cr2_ | kiozen: too big. |
| 19:13.44 | psionfenix | now if only i can put linux on my titan, i'll be semi-happier. |
| 19:13.50 | kiozen | hm, depends on what you want to do |
| 19:13.58 | psionfenix | it's like looking for the holy grail |
| 19:14.03 | cr2_ | kiozen: the wince on medion is horrible. it's as nonstandard as possible. |
| 19:14.04 | Nickbee | Hello all ... |
| 19:14.43 | kiozen | cr2_: didn't we tell you: don't visit media market :) |
| 19:14.49 | Nickbee | That was my first question ... can we using linux from SD on athena ? |
| 19:14.55 | cr2_ | kiozen: 80% of wince programs just reject to run there, and the sound produces endless error.s |
| 19:15.05 | psionfenix | wince is an error :P |
| 19:15.13 | dcordes | true |
| 19:15.13 | kiozen | but gps is good :P |
| 19:15.40 | cr2_ | kiozen: waiting for M on medion :) with TMC support |
| 19:16.06 | cr2_ | Nickbee: you can boot from SD, but can't use it in linux :) |
| 19:16.11 | kiozen | M on eeepc or olpc would be more fun |
| 19:16.27 | cr2_ | isn't olpc b&w ? |
| 19:16.39 | cr2_ | eeepc has builtin gps ? |
| 19:16.51 | kiozen | without ac adapter yes, with it's color |
| 19:17.05 | kiozen | no, you have to use bt |
| 19:17.06 | cr2_ | ok. |
| 19:17.46 | cr2_ | Nickbee: do you have an USB host (+TV/VGA) cable ? |
| 19:17.58 | kiozen | hope the eeepc isn't as slow as asus flash mumbo jumbo |
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| 19:18.17 | cr2_ | kiozen: never seen eeepc in real life. |
| 19:18.19 | Nickbee | Nope, the TV, VGA cable is there but no USB host |
| 19:18.37 | cr2_ | Nickbee: TV should be with USB |
| 19:18.47 | kiozen | cr2_: http://eeepc.asus.com/global/guide.htm |
| 19:19.11 | cr2_ | Nickbee: i've bought one, because my standard Ameo cable was VGA-only |
| 19:19.25 | Nickbee | nope, the one i have is VGA only |
| 19:19.28 | Nickbee | you are right |
| 19:20.05 | Nickbee | its the same standard ameo cable that i have as wel |
| 19:20.28 | cr2_ | kiozen: i prefer a pxa270 micro-notebook, which is athena |
| 19:20.52 | cr2_ | Nickbee: ok, then you can't really use linux now. |
| 19:21.09 | kiozen | cr2_: yes, but eeepc already runs linux without hacking |
| 19:21.15 | cr2_ | ok. |
| 19:21.42 | cr2_ | athena has builtin sirf3 & so on. 2 cams and other UMTS stuff. |
| 19:21.53 | Nickbee | I ordered a car charger from ebay 2 nonths back ... no delivery and case hanging with paypal ... so thinking if i should order something else from ebay or not |
| 19:21.55 | kiozen | ok 1:1 |
| 19:22.27 | cr2_ | kiozen: i think it's even HSDPA |
| 19:22.38 | Nickbee | athena is HSPDA |
| 19:23.11 | Nickbee | cr2, with on screen keyboard, its a very smooth device |
| 19:23.22 | cr2_ | Nickbee: do you use the hotplug spi keyboard ? |
| 19:23.39 | Nickbee | cr2: whats that? |
| 19:23.52 | cr2_ | the kayboard on magnet |
| 19:24.08 | Nickbee | nope, onscreen (fingure touch) |
| 19:24.14 | cr2_ | me too. |
| 19:24.17 | Nickbee | its much better ... |
| 19:24.27 | cr2_ | it's fun, not not really usable. |
| 19:25.04 | Nickbee | i have been using the onscreen keyboard for 3-4 days now and am getting hang of it now |
| 19:25.07 | cr2_ | kiozen: M on athena will be fun too. it's 5" VGA touchscreen |
| 19:25.22 | Nickbee | what "M" ? |
| 19:25.34 | cr2_ | http://qlandkarte.org |
| 19:26.09 | Nickbee | ah ok |
| 19:26.13 | cr2_ | i've lost my notes about athena gps CPLD gpios somewhere :( |
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| 19:26.34 | cr2_ | otherwise it may have been tested. |
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| 19:27.27 | cr2_ | kiozen: i've printed out the whole IPL asm code, and the starting part of SPL. |
| 19:27.47 | cr2_ | for n560. |
| 19:28.01 | kiozen | must be a book |
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| 19:28.19 | cr2_ | IPL is not big, 0x800 bytes |
| 19:28.25 | cr2_ | binary |
| 19:29.22 | cr2_ | i only need to find out when the FSC splash is loaded. |
| 19:29.22 | cr2_ | and why |
| 19:29.22 | BabelO | kiozen: http://linuxbox2.free.fr/qtapp/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=3&Itemid=15 |
| 19:29.53 | cr2_ | kiozen: the lcdspi needs to be checked 10times :) don't want to blow the LCD ;) |
| 19:30.23 | kiozen | BabelO: lol, the viking has to dance, and you need some of these dorky C64 tunes |
| 19:30.31 | kiozen | but looks great! |
| 19:30.56 | cr2_ | BabelO: qvga ? |
| 19:31.05 | BabelO | cr2_: yes |
| 19:31.16 | BabelO | cr2_: my app running on ba |
| 19:31.21 | cr2_ | BabelO: the upper bar takes too much space |
| 19:31.31 | kiozen | cr2_: oh, is that possible? |
| 19:31.45 | BabelO | cr2_: yes i can reduce in the theme xml i think |
| 19:31.57 | kiozen | BabelO: you need a pause button |
| 19:32.01 | cr2_ | kiozen: 240x240 is the target :) |
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| 19:32.28 | BabelO | kiozen: i use <marquee> .. </marquee> not w3c standard but works |
| 19:32.37 | kiozen | cr2_: pah, map apps are no fun at that resolution |
| 19:33.03 | cr2_ | kiozen: i'll check M. |
| 19:33.04 | Nickbee | cr2: any plans to work on athena linux? |
| 19:33.12 | Nickbee | to get it workng from SD ? |
| 19:33.13 | Nickbee | :) |
| 19:33.18 | cr2_ | kiozen: the only problem i have is to copy your image to miniSD |
| 19:33.36 | kiozen | no adapter? |
| 19:33.53 | cr2_ | Nickbee: yes, after i've finished the n560 LCD and resume |
| 19:34.04 | cr2_ | kiozen: adapter goes in other direction |
| 19:35.19 | Nickbee | cr2: I need to learn how to do the drivers etc ... but due to lack of time (from my new business venture) i am struggling ... is there something i can do in little time? |
| 19:35.34 | Nickbee | as in a head start ? |
| 19:35.59 | Nickbee | so i atleast try to help you somewhat ? |
| 19:36.25 | cr2_ | Nickbee: no. i've already done all the easy things. |
| 19:36.34 | Nickbee | ok |
| 19:36.51 | cr2_ | the remaining things need time and patience. |
| 19:37.10 | Nickbee | understood :) |
| 19:37.15 | Marex | cr2_, hi |
| 19:38.01 | cr2_ | hi Marex |
| 19:38.40 | cr2_ | Marex: let me finish the n560 :) |
| 19:38.43 | Marex | cr2_, commit mail I sent you |
| 19:38.46 | Marex | please |
| 19:38.56 | cr2_ | don't have any. |
| 19:39.00 | Marex | ok, finish it first |
| 19:39.05 | Marex | I just sent you one |
| 19:39.09 | Marex | cr2_, thanks :) |
| 19:40.19 | cr2_ | Marex: a really small patch |
| 19:40.35 | Marex | yea, just minor fixes |
| 19:41.17 | Marex | cr2_, thanks :) |
| 19:42.18 | Marex | cr2_, I will send you the palmld patch later |
| 19:42.21 | cr2_ | Marex: tt5 ? |
| 19:42.29 | cr2_ | i don't have it locally |
| 19:42.39 | Marex | what dont you have ? |
| 19:42.52 | Marex | and what about tt5 ? |
| 19:42.57 | cr2_ | ls: cannot access arch/arm/mach-pxa/palmtt5: No such file or directory |
| 19:43.39 | Marex | cvs up ;) |
| 19:43.40 | cr2_ | ah, pH5 added it. |
| 19:45.38 | Marex | cr2_, rather finish N560 :) |
| 19:46.02 | cr2_ | if it was so easy :) |
| 19:47.06 | cr2_ | pH5: do you have a "compilable" 2.6.25 for magician somewhere ? |
| 19:47.50 | cr2_ | Marex: hh.org CVS is huge |
| 19:47.52 | pH5 | cr2_: sure. it boots from mtd, but right now it's modulo sound/ts/gsm support |
| 19:48.47 | pH5 | I just submitted the egpio stuff to the arm patch tracker, htc-pasic3 is on the ML for review. |
| 19:51.17 | Marex | cr2_, yea |
| 20:06.06 | cr2_ | pH5: ok |
| 20:07.01 | cr2_ | Marex: i need to run cvs diff now, because i see some differences after update |
| 20:07.14 | Marex | ok |
| 20:07.59 | cr2_ | pH5: let me know when you'll have time (and nerves :) for asic3_. this one is vital too, and really hurts the eye in its current state. |
| 20:09.39 | pH5 | cr2_: ok :) |
| 20:10.29 | cr2_ | hmm. drivers/mmc/s3c2440mci.c |
| 20:13.24 | cr2_ | Marex: done |
| 20:13.33 | Marex | cr2_, thanks |
| 20:18.24 | Marex | cr2_, pH5 would you mind checking your mailbox? :) |
| 20:22.01 | pH5 | Marex: could you do the style cleanup before submitting? |
| 20:22.14 | Marex | what style cleanup ? |
| 20:22.59 | pH5 | of palmld.patch. checkpatch.pl has 20 style errors remaining. |
| 20:23.34 | Marex | I guess I should get the checkpatch.pl then |
| 20:24.02 | pH5 | Marex: it's in the scripts/ dir of the kernel, best use the one from current mainline. |
| 20:24.10 | pH5 | - printk(KERN_DEBUG "palmtt5_mci_init: irq registered\n"); |
| 20:24.15 | pH5 | + printk(KERN_DEBUG "%s: irq registered\n", __FUNCTION__); |
| 20:24.27 | Marex | isnt that more correct ? |
| 20:24.46 | pH5 | hm, isn't it exactly the same? |
| 20:25.32 | Marex | the second one is reusable ;) |
| 20:25.48 | cr2_ | Marex: you are copying the hx4700 pxa_uart hacks. it will certainly need a new rewrite. |
| 20:26.06 | pH5 | Marex: any .id = 0 can just be dropped |
| 20:26.14 | cr2_ | i mean things like that |
| 20:26.17 | cr2_ | +if (bt_funcs.configure != NULL) |
| 20:26.17 | cr2_ | +bt_funcs.configure(state); |
| 20:27.54 | Marex | how to use that checkpatch.pl, just give it patch as an argument, right ? |
| 20:28.00 | cr2_ | Marex: is it really intended this way: |
| 20:28.04 | cr2_ | +gpio_set_value(GPIO_NR_PALMLD_SCREEN, intensity); |
| 20:28.05 | pH5 | Marex: (the second printk is also slightly larger and slower) |
| 20:28.12 | cr2_ | +PWM_PWDUTY0= intensity; |
| 20:28.13 | pH5 | Marex: yes |
| 20:28.39 | Marex | cr2_, why not ? |
| 20:28.53 | cr2_ | what is the intensity value ? |
| 20:29.03 | Marex | it controls shuting down the screen if intensity == 0 |
| 20:29.04 | pH5 | cr2_: looks ok to me |
| 20:29.29 | cr2_ | the hackers :) |
| 20:31.14 | cr2_ | as a general note. it's bad that we don#t have a sane pxa-pwm driver yet. |
| 20:31.30 | cr2_ | you can feed any junk here PWM_PWDUTY0= intensity |
| 20:31.41 | cr2_ | also exceeding the PWM_PERVAL0 |
| 20:32.32 | pH5 | cr2_: there is one in arm-devel now, and I hope somebody is working on making that generic pwm |
| 20:32.51 | pH5 | although a first quick try failed, for now I'm still using generic-bl |
| 20:33.22 | cr2_ | ok. |
| 20:33.42 | cr2_ | hmm. generic pwm, or generic pxa pwm ? |
| 20:33.56 | pH5 | pxa-pwm-bl exists |
| 20:34.08 | cr2_ | we'd certainly want to clone it as an asic3-pwm |
| 20:34.34 | pH5 | on lak somebody submitted the same for s3c244x if I remember correctly, and then there was a short discussion about generalizing the pwm api |
| 20:34.35 | cr2_ | already in the kernel ? was it the pxa3xx-pwm you told me about ? |
| 20:34.58 | cr2_ | yes, the s3c244x-pwm is an openmoko2 patch. |
| 20:35.12 | pH5 | cr2_: not yet in mainline, but in rmk's queue |
| 20:35.18 | cr2_ | and it looked very good to me. |
| 20:35.18 | cr2_ | ok. |
| 20:35.39 | cr2_ | Marex: this is redundant | LCCR3_Bpp(4) |
| 20:35.56 | cr2_ | Marex: you already have +.bpp= 16, |
| 20:36.17 | cr2_ | pxafb will just produce a dmesg warning |
| 20:37.52 | cr2_ | Marex: how does the plamld boot ? off the IDE ? |
| 20:38.11 | Marex | off the card or off the microdrive |
| 20:38.17 | Marex | anyway it boots from palmos |
| 20:38.36 | cr2_ | i'm wondering if the map_desc is really needed. |
| 20:38.43 | cr2_ | +/* set AC97's GPIOs */ |
| 20:38.43 | cr2_ | +pxa_gpio_mode(GPIO28_BITCLK_AC97_MD); |
| 20:38.46 | cr2_ | ... |
| 20:38.59 | Marex | yea, without it the MD driver doesnt work |
| 20:39.02 | cr2_ | should it be in machine_init() ? |
| 20:39.19 | cr2_ | or in some _sound_probe() ? |
| 20:39.52 | pH5 | I'd say put that into the asoc machine driver. |
| 20:40.12 | pH5 | but machine_init is probably sane, too. |
| 20:41.32 | cr2_ | pH5: what happens if the asoc driver will be removed ? |
| 20:41.53 | Marex | cr2_, it wont be reset ! |
| 20:42.01 | pH5 | cr2_: nothing |
| 20:42.17 | cr2_ | yeah. i stays hanging and wasting power ;) |
| 20:42.38 | cr2_ | or maybe i'm spoiled by the n560 disasm. |
| 20:43.08 | pH5 | cr2_: as long as the clock isn't driving it, I doubt it wastes a measurable amount of power. |
| 20:43.14 | cr2_ | imho it does everything right on suspend. |
| 20:43.19 | pH5 | of course one could change it back to GPIO OUT |
| 20:43.29 | cr2_ | ok. |
| 20:43.43 | pH5 | but I haven't found any docs about the merits of either method |
| 20:44.32 | cr2_ | well, i think it should be traceable by ds276x. it it's available. |
| 20:44.43 | cr2_ | s/it /if / |
| 20:45.21 | cr2_ | Marex: btw, what is set here: |
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| 20:45.24 | cr2_ | +GPSR(GPIO48_nPOE_MD) =GPIO_bit(GPIO48_nPOE_MD) | |
| 20:45.24 | cr2_ | +GPIO_bit(GPIO49_nPWE_MD) | |
| 20:46.31 | Marex | cr2_, that file originates about half a year ago, how should I know ? :( |
| 20:46.34 | Marex | I dont really recall |
| 20:46.42 | Marex | but that bit is suspicious to me |
| 20:46.54 | cr2_ | yes, the left side. |
| 20:46.58 | Marex | I guess I copied if from hx47xx or something |
| 20:47.22 | cr2_ | gpio48 is gplr1 ? |
| 20:47.23 | pH5 | GPSR(*_MD) is very wrong |
| 20:47.37 | cr2_ | 0-31, 32-63 |
| 20:47.39 | cr2_ | yes. |
| 20:48.09 | cr2_ | should be set_*(GPSR1) |
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| 20:48.27 | cr2_ | something like that. i always forget the right kernel api :) |
| 20:48.39 | pH5 | gpio_set_value(GPIO48_nPOE, 1); |
| 20:48.47 | pH5 | gpio_set_value(GPIO48_nPWE, 1); |
| 20:48.53 | pH5 | s/48/49/ |
| 20:49.15 | cr2_ | pH5: he wants to set 10bits at once. |
| 20:49.35 | cr2_ | i've copied only the first 2 entries. |
| 20:50.38 | cr2_ | +#define PALMLD_USB_VIRT(0xf0000000) |
| 20:50.46 | cr2_ | i'm wondering if it's really used. |
| 20:51.13 | Marex | cr2_, I will try that tomorow at school |
| 20:51.58 | cr2_ | ok. |
| 20:51.59 | Marex | checkpatch is really nice :) |
| 20:52.19 | Marex | damn, sable needs cleanup :C |
| 20:52.39 | Marex | so much work and so little time :C |
| 20:52.41 | cr2_ | Marex: yeah, and it's asic3 too. |
| 20:52.50 | Marex | not only that |
| 20:52.57 | Marex | whole sable needs cleanup |
| 20:53.05 | Marex | and probably some other devices too |
| 20:53.23 | Marex | Im looking for the functionality first though :) |
| 20:53.52 | cr2_ | i expect a huge cleanup of ~10 machines after asic3 will be cleaned. |
| 20:55.54 | Marex | ok |
| 20:55.59 | Marex | so I should wait with sable too ? |
| 20:56.09 | BabelO | pH5: any luck with bootloader ? |
| 20:56.24 | Marex | btw examination period is in month and half, that'd be a little problem |
| 20:57.53 | cr2_ | Marex: fix the n_erhtc.c, and let's think about the kernel-userspace api. also check if resume works for you. |
| 20:58.10 | Marex | cr2_, n_erhtc is already in my kt |
| 20:58.18 | Marex | I can send you the file, it's still a bit messy though |
| 20:58.42 | cr2_ | Marex: a bit messy is better than nothing. |
| 20:58.57 | cr2_ | but i obviously don't have time to fix it ;) |
| 20:59.16 | pH5 | and remember a little messy usually means nobody will touch it again. |
| 20:59.22 | Marex | cr2_, just if you wanna try ... |
| 20:59.30 | pH5 | I still haven't managed to fix up the magician's touchscreen driver :( |
| 20:59.50 | Marex | I switched beetles to ads7846 and I dont care anymore :D |
| 20:59.50 | cr2_ | pH5: isn't it tsc2046 ? |
| 20:59.52 | pH5 | BabelO: no time |
| 21:00.20 | pH5 | cr2_: yes, but I'm still using the hacked old hx4700 driver because with the ts-adc driver I get distortions and strange noise peaks. |
| 21:00.27 | cr2_ | Marex: ads7846 _is_ noisy. |
| 21:00.33 | Marex | pH5, cr2_ ok, sent patch |
| 21:00.45 | cr2_ | pH5: the same on universal. |
| 21:00.54 | Marex | cr2_, yea I know, but better than having separate ts driver for each machine |
| 21:01.07 | Marex | cr2_, I noticed the noise already :/ |
| 21:01.15 | cr2_ | pH5: and ads7846 still does not use pxa2xx-spi |
| 21:01.36 | cr2_ | so BabelO is out of luck on artemis too. |
| 21:01.45 | cr2_ | and omap850 in general. |
| 21:02.49 | cr2_ | but the generic spi subsystem is hard :) i'm pulling my hair out because of the bitbang driver :) |
| 21:03.13 | cr2_ | but it supports everything possible. |
| 21:04.29 | Marex | Im just checking again if palmld still compiles |
| 21:04.48 | Marex | apart from that pcmcia stuff the patch should be ok |
| 21:05.12 | pH5 | good night |
| 21:05.33 | cr2_ | Marex: yes, the pcmcia looks wrong. |
| 21:05.59 | Marex | cr2_, I will look at that tomorow at school, ok ? |
| 21:10.33 | Marex | cr2_, will you commit that or wait till tomorow ? |
| 21:14.06 | BabelO | Marex: i had same noise on ba too, i use a real driver no ;) |
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| 21:14.55 | Marex | BabelO, do we know the exact resistance of the plates ? |
| 21:15.05 | Marex | (on the touchscreen, that can cause noise) |
| 21:17.27 | BabelO | Marex: don't think it is resistance of plat that cause noise, with a specific driver it works fine |
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| 21:17.45 | BabelO | on ba it measure x/y and z in one pass only, |
| 21:17.45 | Marex | hummm ... |
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| 21:19.33 | BabelO | Marex: it is better because all input are taken at same point |
| 21:20.03 | BabelO | else between each measure it can move or miss measure |
| 21:31.18 | cr2_ | Marex: fix the pcmcia code, it's obviously wrong |
| 21:31.27 | Marex | ok |
| 21:32.00 | Marex | I will look at it right away |
| 21:35.24 | Marex | cr2_, ok, fine, with that code the wifi chip is detected, I will try to drop it |
| 21:42.09 | Marex | cr2_, ok, you can delete that |
| 21:42.27 | Marex | cr2_, everything before pxa_gpio_mode is redundant |
| 21:48.28 | Marex | cr2_, ok, check your email |
| 21:51.52 | cr2_ | Marex: ok, looks better now. i'll remove the LCCR3 bpp |
| 21:53.08 | cr2_ | Marex: --ignore CVS please :) |
| 21:54.33 | Marex | dang, I missed that one |
| 21:54.34 | Marex | sorry |
| 21:54.45 | Marex | btw you can remove that from TT5 as well ... lccr3 that is |
| 21:54.49 | cr2_ | edited it out. |
| 21:59.40 | cr2_ | Marex: done. |
| 21:59.50 | Marex | thanks :) |
| 21:59.52 | cr2_ | Marex: looking for missing files. |
| 22:00.00 | cr2_ | check if it compiles. |
| 22:00.01 | Marex | what missing files? |
| 22:04.27 | cr2_ | missed one header |
| 22:04.37 | Marex | which one |
| 22:07.55 | cr2_ | palmld-init.h |
| 22:08.04 | cr2_ | already added |
| 22:11.23 | Marex | ok :) |
| 22:29.14 | cr2_ | good night |
| 22:30.18 | Marex | <PROTECTED> |
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