| 00:00.16 | darkerror05 | is there a good package? |
| 00:00.26 | cr2_ | dcordes_: alt3 is irq :) |
| 00:02.06 | dcordes_ | cr2_, huh what's alt3? |
| 00:02.20 | dcordes_ | hopes kaiser will be all blinking and shining when he boots now |
| 00:02.28 | cr2_ | lol |
| 00:02.33 | dcordes_ | what does kiozen say? playing the drum slowly ^^ |
| 00:03.43 | darkerror05 | Is there an install package for debian? |
| 00:04.05 | darkerror05 | aka a bootloader CAB and/or a filesystem? |
| 00:04.09 | dcordes_ | no but I bet there are prepared images w/ instructions. |
| 00:04.18 | dcordes_ | just google |
| 00:04.23 | dcordes_ | or use xda dev search |
| 00:07.11 | cr2_ | dcordes_: get the lights ? |
| 00:07.15 | dcordes_ | darkerror05, no=dunno |
| 00:07.37 | dcordes_ | second |
| 00:08.12 | dcordes_ | hope it boots at all did some minor changes |
| 00:08.46 | darkerror05 | I see that there are Otopia and Openmoko packages |
| 00:08.56 | dcordes_ | haha shit. otopia |
| 00:09.13 | darkerror05 | can I just install an Icewm arm port into those file systems? |
| 00:09.38 | dcordes_ | cr2_, hm no keypad light. I wonder if the green led blinked before |
| 00:10.02 | cr2_ | darkerror05: qtopia is not using x11 |
| 00:10.06 | cr2_ | good night |
| 00:10.10 | darkerror05 | mmk |
| 00:10.20 | darkerror05 | how about Moko? |
| 00:10.35 | dcordes_ | darkerror05, should meet everything you need to run it |
| 00:10.39 | dcordes_ | night cr2_ |
| 00:10.49 | darkerror05 | ok |
| 00:10.49 | darkerror05 | thanks |
| 00:11.34 | dcordes_ | darkerror05, I can build you an icewm package |
| 00:11.44 | darkerror05 | that would be beautiful |
| 00:11.52 | darkerror05 | but |
| 00:11.53 | dcordes_ | if you ping me when you have it setup |
| 00:12.01 | dcordes_ | it will require fiddling |
| 00:12.04 | dcordes_ | no ootb |
| 00:12.16 | dcordes_ | icewm_1.2.30.bb |
| 00:13.06 | darkerror05 | is there a port in the Debian Arm project? |
| 00:13.17 | dcordes_ | look it up |
| 00:13.50 | dcordes_ | darkerror05, there might be icewm.ipk files on openmoko package servers |
| 00:14.29 | darkerror05 | ill try that first |
| 00:14.36 | darkerror05 | if I dont find one I will let you know |
| 00:15.53 | dcordes_ | sure |
| 00:16.15 | dcordes_ | that's very distro specific. you could ask such things in #openmoko #angstrom |
| 00:16.34 | dcordes_ | a good place to look for ipks is angstrom-distribution.org/repo |
| 00:16.56 | darkerror05 | thanks very much |
| 00:17.46 | darkerror05 | I have a Xanadux X11 CAB |
| 00:17.56 | darkerror05 | (just found it) |
| 00:18.08 | darkerror05 | what packages would work best for that? |
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| 00:21.12 | dcordes_ | darkerror05, I believe most xanadux packages are ancient |
| 00:21.59 | darkerror05 | is it not worth trying to use that then? |
| 00:23.35 | dcordes_ | I would go for something fresher |
| 00:24.04 | darkerror05 | alright |
| 00:24.09 | darkerror05 | http://linmob.blogspot.com/2008/04/htc-on-debian-with-x.html |
| 00:24.12 | darkerror05 | wow |
| 00:24.26 | darkerror05 | an article from last month talking about Debian on a universal |
| 00:24.33 | darkerror05 | ah the wonders of google |
| 00:29.42 | dcordes_ | that blog is from a guy who was here during last week |
| 00:29.53 | dcordes_ | or still is present don't know |
| 00:29.59 | darkerror05 | wow |
| 00:30.03 | darkerror05 | talk about timing |
| 00:30.04 | darkerror05 | :P |
| 00:32.02 | darkerror05 | <alienjeff> stuffing six people in a room that only has 4 beds |
| 00:32.03 | darkerror05 | oops |
| 00:32.07 | darkerror05 | http://wiki.neilandtheresa.co.uk/Titchy_Mobile/Installing_Debian |
| 00:34.27 | dcordes_ | have fun |
| 00:34.32 | darkerror05 | heh I will |
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| 10:12.05 | cr2_ | kiozen: you have included the msvc?60.dll and msvc?71.dll but qt wants 8.0 |
| 10:20.35 | cr2_ | kiozen: i've downloaded the "Microsoft Visual C++ 2005 Redistributable Package (x86)" from m$ and installed it in wine. |
| 10:20.54 | kiozen | cr2_: funny that you need it, my plain xp installation does not care |
| 10:21.00 | cr2_ | kiozen: LOL. it works perfectly in wine :) |
| 10:21.13 | cr2_ | kiozen: for _wine_ |
| 10:22.23 | cr2_ | btw, the osm people use it as THE tool for editing .gpx tracks |
| 10:22.45 | cr2_ | very nice work indeed. thank you :) |
| 10:23.10 | cr2_ | i think i'll finish the lcdspi today. |
| 10:23.12 | cr2_ | bbl |
| 10:23.20 | kiozen | cr2_: thanks, you are welcome :) |
| 10:23.36 | kiozen | cr2_: I upload another *exe with the libs |
| 10:25.50 | kiozen | have to do it later |
| 10:25.51 | kiozen | bbl |
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| 11:23.41 | cr2_ | http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/productInfo.do?fmly_id=229&partnum=SC32442 |
| 11:24.17 | cr2_ | i have uploaded the s3c2442 user manual to http://jornada820.sf.net/docs/arm |
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| 12:05.47 | kiozen | cr2_: new binary is on the server |
| 12:07.14 | kiozen | cr2_: "btw, the osm people use it as THE tool for editing .gpx tracks" where did you read that? |
| 12:13.22 | cr2_ | http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=581 |
| 12:16.10 | kiozen | cr2_: well, I doubt it's what the original poster wanted to read. You can only purge bad track points, no way to edit them :) I hate spoofing measured data. |
| 12:19.46 | cr2_ | kiozen: that's exactly what is needed |
| 12:20.04 | cr2_ | if i really wanted to "edit" them, there is gpx2shp |
| 12:20.40 | cr2_ | http://gpx2shp.sourceforge.jp |
| 12:21.57 | kiozen | hm, no screenshots :P |
| 12:22.41 | cr2_ | you are not yet using the OGR part of gdal, but it should be easy to do such things. |
| 12:25.17 | kiozen | cr2_: btw how flat is your scanner, I mean does it have this silly plastic frame that causes distortion right at the borders if your map does not fit the plane? |
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| 12:27.56 | dcordes | hi kiozen cr2_ others |
| 12:28.12 | kiozen | hi dcordes |
| 12:29.23 | cr2_ | kiozen: http://www.mustek.de/ger_/html/produkte/sea3usb.htm |
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| 12:30.02 | dcordes | cr2_, I turned cpld gpios 0_4-7 (all 4 have led description in wiki) and 1_4 which is extkeylight to 1 with the htc_egpio_pinInfo pins function. but nothing was blinking |
| 12:31.36 | kiozen | cr2_: looks like it has the same silly frame, how do you handle distortions at the borders? crop each scan? |
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| 12:33.25 | cr2_ | kiozen: yes |
| 12:33.34 | kiozen | ok thanks |
| 12:34.32 | kiozen | this plastic frame is really stupid, every scanner has the same design flaw |
| 12:34.46 | cr2_ | dcordes: i don't know what should be blinking |
| 12:35.28 | cr2_ | kiozen: it's the cheapest A3 scanner i know (with linux support), has 300x600dpi, so i'm not really complaining. |
| 12:36.24 | dcordes | cr2_, leds and keypad backlight? |
| 12:36.33 | dcordes | at least that is what I thought should be |
| 12:36.40 | kiozen | cr2_: even the most expensive do have this frame. Maybe just my point of view about the word 'flat' is a different one :) |
| 12:36.55 | cr2_ | ok :) |
| 12:37.35 | kiozen | companies should spent more money on engineering than on marketing buzz words |
| 12:38.03 | dcordes | cr2_, I think the front led state can't be set with egpio as it is now. the leds stay in wince state after booting. |
| 12:40.28 | cr2_ | kiozen: hehe ;) |
| 12:41.10 | cr2_ | dcordes: leds use a different driver than the backlight in wince |
| 12:41.41 | cr2_ | it's the same in linux, but one can discuss if it's a good idea. |
| 12:42.10 | dcordes | cr2_, to have seperate drivers or to cope with led things right now? |
| 12:49.07 | cr2_ | dcordes: leds is really the last problem to solve on kaiser |
| 12:49.41 | dcordes | cr2_, it's not that I'm after them so much. I wanted to experiment with the cpld settings yesterday |
| 12:50.43 | dcordes | also tried to find out what extkeylight is |
| 12:54.04 | cr2_ | dcordes: PCOM_GPIO_CFG is not used because it's some weird rpc packing macro. |
| 12:54.21 | cr2_ | we don't need it |
| 12:54.43 | dcordes | I didn't do anything with proc comm. I used what I setup with babel |
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| 13:01.44 | dcordes | hi BabelO |
| 13:01.54 | BabelO | hi |
| 13:03.01 | dcordes | BabelO, I tried to expand the list of bootup gpio states we set. http://rafb.net/p/hfNMul46.html http://rafb.net/p/XQPBKa10.html |
| 13:39.16 | dcordes | cr2_, can we do anything with those cpu settings needed for sd you talked about yesterday? |
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| 14:09.43 | cr2_ | dcordes: you'd check the http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_IRQ |
| 14:10.02 | cr2_ | dcordes: the M2A things, and compare them with vogue patch |
| 14:10.18 | cr2_ | dcordes: this line 6 INT_A9_M2A_6 SD Insert/Eject, vibration, lcd on/off, USB Insert/Eject |
| 14:10.34 | cr2_ | may have something to do with our SD and MDP problems. |
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| 14:17.24 | dcordes | cr2_, that irq is mentioned in arch/arm/mach-msm/vogue-smd.c |
| 14:17.56 | dcordes | these interrupts are used by the ARM9 to tell us that data is ready to read. |
| 14:18.55 | cr2_ | dcordes: yes, so somehow the SD and MDP are under arm9 control on kaiser. |
| 14:19.46 | cr2_ | dcordes: and you'd find out the phone FIFO memory addresses for kaiser. on vogue they are probably different. |
| 14:20.55 | dcordes | pointer to heand a tail of the fifo |
| 14:22.51 | dcordes | cr2_, I just noticed I don't have vogue-smd.c |
| 14:23.48 | cr2_ | you need to modify it anyway. |
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| 14:24.14 | cr2_ | and you don't have any gpio control. vogue too. |
| 14:25.19 | cr2_ | dcordes: the android code is a bit obfuscated. |
| 14:26.03 | dcordes | looks like my local tree is based upon dzo's first patch |
| 14:26.27 | dcordes | cr2_, do I have to do much more than modifying and adding the smd? |
| 14:26.44 | cr2_ | yes |
| 14:27.29 | cr2_ | it has some FIFO addresses and channels hardcoded. i doubt that this data is the same on kaiser. |
| 14:28.15 | dcordes | so I have to define that stuff in the board header or where is that? |
| 14:28.36 | dcordes | dzo, second patch also adds smd_tty.c |
| 14:29.25 | dcordes | s/adds/changes/ |
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| 14:33.51 | dcordes | I'll clone fresh and apply the second patch in order to compare better |
| 14:35.21 | marbalon | dcordes: hi |
| 14:35.27 | dcordes | hey marbalon |
| 14:35.32 | marbalon | any news ? |
| 14:35.41 | dcordes | not really |
| 14:35.58 | dcordes | except of some KaiserMemoryMap and Kaiser_CPLD updating |
| 14:36.12 | dcordes | did you do the arrow keys? |
| 14:37.36 | marbalon | no, just pwr up my comp |
| 14:45.01 | dcordes | cr2_, I wonder why dzo needs no change in proc_comm.h |
| 14:48.43 | cr2_ | everything is setup in wince. |
| 14:49.23 | dcordes | ah I see |
| 14:50.05 | dcordes | cr2_, how to find out fifo shared mem addresses? |
| 14:52.12 | cr2_ | i think he did it by watching in haret. |
| 14:52.28 | cr2_ | in the 0x1f000* area |
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| 14:55.46 | dcordes | cr2_, HaRET(2)# pd 0xa0200000 1 |
| 14:55.46 | dcordes | a0200000 | 48c26a51 | Qj.H |
| 14:56.45 | dcordes | 00: Mapping a0200000(@10500000) accesses to e1100000 (tbl 10500402) |
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| 15:14.27 | Pryan | wenas |
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| 16:11.50 | majorburn | heh rackmount your mom? funny |
| 16:15.08 | tsdogs | cr2_: I have a buggy as hell qt4 version of the viewer :) |
| 16:17.54 | cr2_ | tsdogs: lol. it was always buggy :) |
| 16:18.09 | tsdogs | cr2_: this is more buggy :) |
| 16:18.49 | cr2_ | BabelO: lcdspi for artemis decoded. i've compared n560, ba6 and arte. there are some differences. |
| 16:18.59 | cr2_ | tsdogs: wget |
| 16:19.27 | tsdogs | hmm, fixing some things, it does not work as expected yet |
| 16:21.10 | BabelO | hi cr2_, i m looking at my irq issue |
| 16:21.43 | BabelO | cr2_: suspend does not work on artemis at the moment ;) |
| 16:25.19 | cr2_ | BabelO: there are more text comments also. |
| 16:25.40 | cr2_ | BabelO: the sed renaming script will help a lot. |
| 16:25.43 | cr2_ | tsdogs: ok. |
| 16:35.05 | cr2_ | these 4 lines of asm are weird. |
| 16:41.13 | cr2_ | mov r1, r0,asr#2 |
| 16:41.13 | cr2_ | add r1, r0, R1,lsr#29 |
| 16:41.14 | cr2_ | mov r1, r1,asr#3 |
| 16:41.14 | cr2_ | subs r1, r0, r1,lsl#3 |
| 16:42.35 | cr2_ | BabelO: what is the purpose of this code if r0 changes from 0 to 8 ? |
| 16:43.32 | cr2_ | i'll write a c program with inline asm to check :) |
| 16:43.59 | BabelO | cr2_: look like a mth function |
| 16:44.07 | BabelO | s/mth/math/ |
| 16:46.30 | cr2_ | r0-(((r0+(r0/4)>>29)/8)<<3) |
| 16:46.51 | cr2_ | does awk support << >> ? |
| 16:47.00 | cr2_ | afair no. |
| 16:49.40 | BabelO | cr2_: >> in awk is to append to a file :) |
| 16:50.00 | cr2_ | this is some bitshift function |
| 16:50.04 | majorburn | bullshift |
| 16:50.28 | cr2_ | yeah. |
| 16:50.39 | cr2_ | awk says it's always zero |
| 16:51.01 | cr2_ | seems to be some overzealous macro expanded |
| 16:51.48 | cr2_ | but if i'll make an error here, a lot of LCDs may be screwed :) |
| 16:52.40 | cr2_ | so i'm asking for some independent review. |
| 16:52.52 | majorburn | I thought the 5 second rule applied to LCDs too |
| 16:53.38 | cr2_ | a lot of data will be fed to LCD over spi |
| 16:55.15 | cr2_ | need to wait for kiozen. it's his LCD after all :) |
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| 16:59.30 | dcordes | cr2_, have you seen the haret output? |
| 17:04.10 | darkerror05 | hey I got debian runnign |
| 17:04.12 | darkerror05 | :) |
| 17:04.33 | darkerror05 | now all I need is a midori port |
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| 17:18.12 | tsdogs | BabelO: is there a way to have a ListWidgetItem to display a bigger QIcon on the left size (or should I use the ListViewItem?) |
| 17:20.55 | BabelO | tsdogs: hi, when i do this, i ll create the widget by hand then add it in listview |
| 17:21.14 | tsdogs | BabelO: listview or listwidget? |
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| 17:22.48 | BabelO | tsdogs: listwidget |
| 17:23.33 | tsdogs | hmm, how would you do that? subclass? |
| 17:27.52 | BabelO | tsdogs: http://pastebin.ca/1005184 |
| 17:28.09 | BabelO | tsdogs: this is to get the scroll |
| 17:28.49 | BabelO | tsdogs: so no, sorry, i did not use listwidget item :) |
| 17:28.53 | tsdogs | BabelO: lol, there is no listwidget there :) |
| 17:28.57 | tsdogs | :) |
| 17:29.16 | BabelO | tsdogs: i add my own widget to the scrool area, same effect ;) |
| 17:29.23 | tsdogs | :) |
| 17:29.48 | tsdogs | ok thx, I think it's not possible without subclassing listview which is a pita for simple code |
| 17:31.27 | cr2_ | bbl |
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| 18:07.40 | Marex | cr2_, can you verify if palmtt5_core.c was committed ? |
| 18:07.40 | Marex | thanks |
| 18:21.27 | paulproteus | exco, Hey now! |
| 18:22.11 | exco | Hey, paulproteus |
| 18:23.03 | exco | I found Angstrom, Openmoko and Qtopia images for the Magician |
| 18:23.13 | paulproteus | nods |
| 18:23.18 | paulproteus | From htcpxa? |
| 18:23.22 | paulproteus | Those are made by goxboxlive here. |
| 18:24.32 | exco | to be honest - I haven't gotten any to work - yet |
| 18:24.56 | exco | http://www.linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcmagician/images/ |
| 18:25.00 | paulproteus | You have to put the tar.bz2 in the FAT partition and leave the ext3 partition blank. |
| 18:25.09 | paulproteus | Then run the e.g. OpenMoko EXE from Windows Mobile. |
| 18:25.37 | paulproteus | Have you tried that? |
| 18:25.51 | exco | that's where I got the Qt and OM images from |
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| 18:27.51 | kiozen | cr2_: not sure what subs exactly does (could only find sub) |
| 18:27.59 | kiozen | but my result would be: |
| 18:28.08 | kiozen | r1 = r0 - (((r0 + ((unsigned)(r0 / 2) >> 29)) / 8) << 3) |
| 18:28.20 | exco | and Angstrom from here http://linuxtogo.org/~ph5/magician/ |
| 18:28.49 | kiozen | which is pretty much the same as yours, except the cast. |
| 18:29.04 | exco | no, haven't tried it yet - am about to |
| 18:29.11 | paulproteus | exco, Great! I think that should work fine. |
| 18:29.30 | kiozen | BabelO: thanks for the mail, have to check this on Monday |
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| 18:29.56 | BabelO | kiozen: ok :) |
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| 18:30.21 | kiozen | BabelO: I need a bigger hdd for my laptop |
| 18:30.22 | kiozen | :) |
| 18:30.29 | exco | with the latest files I get some error, but haven't tried older ones |
| 18:32.06 | exco | (kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (254,2)) |
| 18:32.25 | exco | sounds like I got my partitions wrong? |
| 18:34.26 | paulproteus | Let's see. |
| 18:34.31 | paulproteus | What's fdisk -l for your card? |
| 18:35.03 | exco | I'm just doing it over |
| 18:35.13 | paulproteus | Okay - feel free to tell me exactly what you're doing so I can sanity-check it. |
| 18:35.20 | paulproteus | Note that I haven't tried the latest images either I'm afraid. |
| 18:35.26 | paulproteus | But I think goxboxlive probably checked them before uploading them. |
| 18:35.27 | exco | /dev/sdb1 1 5 40131 b W95 FAT32 |
| 18:35.27 | exco | /dev/sdb2 6 31 208845 83 Linux |
| 18:36.02 | exco | so I made one fat32 partition and one ext2 |
| 18:36.39 | paulproteus | Cool, how big is the FAT32? Make sure it's >= the size of that tar.bz + the EXE. |
| 18:36.45 | exco | hret zimage and default.txt to fat -> extract the image to ext2 |
| 18:36.57 | exco | actually it's bigger |
| 18:37.46 | exco | I thought my device had problems with to small fat partitions (fat 16 should be min 16MB, fat 32 min 32MB) but turns out the magician just doesn't like sdhc's? |
| 18:39.01 | paulproteus | It may be possible Linux likes SDHCs less than Windows does. I don't remember where the drivers stand on this. |
| 18:39.04 | exco | can you tell me what I'm doing wrong if I get those errors unpacking: |
| 18:39.04 | exco | tar: ./dev/tty1: Cannot mknod: Operation not permitted |
| 18:39.05 | exco | tar: ./dev/hda: Cannot mknod: Operation not permitted |
| 18:39.13 | paulproteus | redo the tar with sudo |
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| 18:40.42 | paulproteus | exco, The problem is that your regular user account isn't allowed to create device nodes. |
| 18:40.55 | exco | ok |
| 18:41.04 | paulproteus | exco, But actually, you're not supposed to do those on your own system - you're supposed to let the EXE untar the stuff itself. |
| 18:41.06 | exco | so I'm trying from within Krusader running as sudo |
| 18:41.07 | paulproteus | That's what I meant by: |
| 18:41.18 | exco | ok |
| 18:41.20 | paulproteus | <paulproteus> You have to put the tar.bz2 in the FAT partition and leave the ext3 partition blank. |
| 18:42.14 | exco | in the txt it says bzcat Angstrom-gpe-image-test-20070111-magician.rootfs.tar.bz2 | (cd /mnt; tar x) |
| 18:42.20 | paulproteus | Er, which txt? URL? |
| 18:42.22 | paulproteus | Oh, I see. |
| 18:42.28 | exco | so I guess the Angstrom image is supposed to be extracted |
| 18:42.29 | paulproteus | You're using the Angstrom image, not the OpenMoko image. That's fine then. |
| 18:42.31 | paulproteus | nods |
| 18:42.35 | paulproteus | I was thinking of the OM image myself. |
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| 18:42.57 | exco | but doesn't the OM image get extracted to the ext2 partition then? |
| 18:43.18 | paulproteus | I'm confused - can you ask that again more verbosely? |
| 18:43.29 | paulproteus | Anyway, I agree with what you're doing, since the docs tell you to do it. (-: |
| 18:43.41 | paulproteus | As far as the Angstrom image, that is. |
| 18:43.51 | exco | :-) |
| 18:44.16 | exco | It's just a shame that I have to hardreset the device afterwards |
| 18:44.29 | paulproteus | Yeah, that's why I took my SIM out for now. |
| 18:45.03 | cr2_ | kiozen: is the result 0 ? |
| 18:45.07 | exco | that should be a priority getting fixed (although it's probably the hardest task?) |
| 18:45.15 | paulproteus | It's practically impossible. |
| 18:45.23 | paulproteus | Windows Mobile in these versions stores its configuration data in RAM. |
| 18:45.27 | cr2_ | Marex: sound for n560 first :) |
| 18:45.30 | exco | It's booting |
| 18:45.32 | paulproteus | So you use that RAM for Linux, and then it goes away. |
| 18:45.35 | paulproteus | exco, Yay! |
| 18:45.59 | paulproteus | exco, Now that I think of it, it's *possible* that one could store a raw image of RAM before booting Linux, and restore that on shutdown. |
| 18:46.00 | exco | just had a broken ext2 partition before (tried like the 5th time) |
| 18:46.02 | paulproteus | But that strikes me as dangerous. |
| 18:46.06 | paulproteus | exco, Why ext2 not ext3? |
| 18:46.09 | Marex | cr2_, you forgot to commit it, admit it ;-) |
| 18:46.27 | majorburn | If you can't commit, you must acquit |
| 18:46.34 | exco | I just thought this was based on an a not so recent version of linux? |
| 18:46.42 | exco | I will try ext3 next time |
| 18:47.20 | Marex | cr2_, N560 on my side is frozen, sorry |
| 18:47.38 | exco | touchscreen works |
| 18:47.47 | exco | sound does too |
| 18:48.14 | exco | get dialer: error connecting to gsmd (guess that's what you ment) |
| 18:48.39 | exco | anyways: just brings a smile to my face |
| 18:48.43 | paulproteus | exco, ! (-: |
| 18:48.45 | kiozen | cr2_: don't think so but I made a mistake |
| 18:48.51 | kiozen | cr2_: r1 = r0 - (((r0 + ((unsigned)(r0 / 4) >> 29)) / 8) << 3) |
| 18:49.31 | exco | I like the skin |
| 18:51.27 | exco | so the latest version from ~ph5 is actually "working" |
| 18:51.54 | paulproteus | exco, Great! So, if we want to use this as a phone, we need working GSM for sure. |
| 18:51.59 | paulproteus | I seem to recall it does work, though. Is your SIM in there? |
| 18:52.08 | exco | yes |
| 18:52.27 | paulproteus | Does that SIM require a PIN? |
| 18:52.33 | exco | pp: GSM would be really nice |
| 18:52.34 | paulproteus | Maybe this software isn't configured to handle SIM PINs. |
| 18:52.38 | exco | sim doesn't require pin |
| 18:52.52 | paulproteus | I could have sworn I did something useful with this in Linux once... |
| 18:52.52 | exco | I don't know if the gsm works |
| 18:53.08 | exco | navigation buttons seem to work |
| 18:53.16 | exco | dial buttons don't |
| 18:53.18 | paulproteus | Try the OpenMoko image next, exco. |
| 18:53.21 | paulproteus | I think that was what I used to dial. |
| 18:53.27 | exco | I will |
| 18:53.41 | paulproteus | Great. The other thing to know is the state of power management. |
| 18:53.45 | exco | is there an easy way to make an image of the whole prepared sd-card? |
| 18:53.55 | paulproteus | You could use dd to capture the raw SD card to a file on your computer. |
| 18:53.58 | paulproteus | That's the best thing I think. |
| 18:54.03 | exco | I can test it by letting mine run through the night |
| 18:54.05 | paulproteus | Do you know how to do that? |
| 18:54.43 | exco | no, but I can look it up |
| 18:54.49 | paulproteus | It should be pretty easy. |
| 18:54.53 | paulproteus | sudo dd if=/dev/sdb of=your_file.img |
| 18:54.59 | paulproteus | Assuming sdb is your card. |
| 18:55.04 | exco | yes it is |
| 18:55.07 | exco | I'll try |
| 18:55.11 | cr2_ | kiozen: i'll write a program. |
| 18:55.13 | paulproteus | Note that you should unmount the filesystems on the card before starting the backup. |
| 18:56.04 | exco | else? |
| 18:56.12 | paulproteus | Else you may get a corrupt backup. |
| 18:56.29 | exco | does it show an error or just corrupt the file |
| 18:56.34 | paulproteus | Just corrupt the file. |
| 18:56.46 | exco | ok so then I'll do it again |
| 18:57.06 | majorburn | dd is too complicated. |
| 18:57.07 | majorburn | uses cat |
| 18:57.26 | paulproteus | I actually like to use pv! I forgot to mention it. |
| 18:57.33 | paulproteus | sudo pv /dev/sdd > my_backup.img |
| 18:58.00 | paulproteus | I'm going to go away for an hour so for lunch. |
| 18:58.00 | majorburn | Nice, you are one character shorter than me |
| 18:58.03 | cr2_ | kiozen: strange. |
| 18:58.12 | kiozen | indeed |
| 18:58.23 | paulproteus | majorburn, but 'pv' shows an nice progress bar, too, that's the real trick. (-: |
| 18:58.36 | majorburn | paulproteus: that's pretty cool |
| 18:58.38 | exco | Ok - so ttyl then |
| 18:59.03 | kiozen | cr2_: any clue what this is for? |
| 18:59.41 | exco | so where do I get pv? |
| 19:00.04 | exco | sorry, my bad |
| 19:01.00 | cr2_ | kiozen: only n560 uses 16bit send, so this sequence is used between the bits to reinsert the clock level |
| 19:01.13 | cr2_ | kiozen: i can send you the whole routine |
| 19:01.16 | cr2_ | [18:41] <cr2_> mov r1, r0,asr#2 |
| 19:01.16 | cr2_ | [18:41] <cr2_> add r1, r0, R1,lsr#29 |
| 19:01.16 | cr2_ | [18:41] <cr2_> mov r1, r1,asr#3 |
| 19:01.16 | cr2_ | [18:41] <cr2_> subs r1, r0, r1,lsl#3 |
| 19:01.44 | cr2_ | bne xxx |
| 19:02.46 | cr2_ | kiozen: i've checked the spl, and it uses the same code. |
| 19:04.17 | paulproteus | exco, It's in the Debian and Ubuntu repositories. |
| 19:04.22 | paulproteus | But it's not necessary - everyone has dd, so you can use that instead. |
| 19:04.43 | Marex | cr2_, one more commit ... please :) |
| 19:04.48 | exco | didn't you wanna go have dinner? |
| 19:04.59 | cr2_ | kiozen: gcc output |
| 19:05.02 | cr2_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:05.03 | cr2_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:05.03 | cr2_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:05.03 | cr2_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:05.03 | cr2_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:05.04 | cr2_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:05.04 | exco | nice progress bar btw |
| 19:05.18 | exco | the gsm doesn't seem to work |
| 19:05.37 | exco | also I get some kind of noise every 30sth seconds |
| 19:05.55 | cr2_ | kiozen: this is not right |
| 19:05.58 | cr2_ | [21:05] <cr2_> mov r3, r3, lsr #3 |
| 19:05.58 | cr2_ | [21:05] <cr2_> mov r3, r3, asl #3 |
| 19:06.24 | exco | the ui isn't too intuitive, but I'll manage |
| 19:06.28 | kiozen | cr2_: no not at all |
| 19:08.11 | cr2_ | kiozen: cc -S -O2 looks completely different :) |
| 19:09.24 | paulproteus | Seems I can be online during lunch. |
| 19:10.50 | paulproteus | exco, So keep hammering me with questions. I'm really excited to talk about Magician stuff. |
| 19:11.09 | exco | do you want the img? |
| 19:11.13 | exco | good |
| 19:11.30 | paulproteus | Well, so far it's just the same as you got from expanding the tar.bz2 so I don't need that image. |
| 19:11.47 | exco | you're right |
| 19:11.47 | exco | I will be testing the OP and Qt images after I'm done |
| 19:11.53 | exco | with this one |
| 19:12.12 | exco | so which one do you want to get working? |
| 19:12.48 | exco | if there's different things working in those different "distros" |
| 19:12.48 | exco | we can harvest and put it into one... |
| 19:12.57 | paulproteus | Let's see how they work first. |
| 19:13.00 | exco | if that hasen't been done |
| 19:13.05 | exco | yeah |
| 19:13.59 | exco | do you want me to try sth. with the version currently running or should I move to the next? |
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| 19:14.10 | paulproteus | Which one are you using right now? |
| 19:14.15 | paulproteus | Angstrom? |
| 19:14.17 | paulproteus | Or OM? |
| 19:14.26 | exco | Angstrom-openmoko-devel-image-glibc-ipk-2008.1-test-20071028-magician.rootfs |
| 19:14.35 | paulproteus | Got it. Let's try the OM image, since it's more recent. |
| 19:15.11 | exco | ok |
| 19:15.48 | exco | OM - I would put the Openmoko-Magician-Linux.exe on the fat partition and extract the tar.bz2 to the ext one? |
| 19:16.11 | paulproteus | No, in this case, the OM image works that you put the tar.bz2 on the FAT an the EXE on the FAT, empty out the ext3 partition, then run the EXE. |
| 19:16.19 | paulproteus | The EXE running on the phone will extract the tar.bz2 to the card. |
| 19:17.02 | exco | doesn't sound like much difference |
| 19:17.40 | cr2_ | kiozen: i've adding some comments |
| 19:17.55 | paulproteus | exco, The big thing is that you don't extract the tar.bz2 in the OM case. |
| 19:18.15 | kiozen | cr2_: yes ? |
| 19:18.37 | exco | pp: hardresetting ... then ready for OM |
| 19:19.26 | exco | pp: why does your name change color? any deeper meaning (IRC?) |
| 19:19.47 | majorburn | um.... thats a client thing... |
| 19:19.51 | paulproteus | exco, Yeah - it happens when I say your nickname. |
| 19:19.57 | paulproteus | Like above, but not like here. |
| 19:20.28 | exco | pp: nice feature (so I know when spoken to :-) |
| 19:20.43 | paulproteus | (- |
| 19:20.44 | paulproteus | : |
| 19:20.45 | exco | ok the OM is creating some root file |
| 19:21.27 | exco | I don't seem to be able to do much with IRC through pidgin... |
| 19:21.48 | majorburn | irssi is the console client standard |
| 19:22.04 | paulproteus | I used to use pidgin, but nowadays I use X-Chat. |
| 19:22.13 | paulproteus | But pidgin is an okay client. |
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| 19:22.44 | goxboxlive | hi paulproteus |
| 19:22.57 | paulproteus | Howdy goxboxlive, how have you been? |
| 19:23.05 | goxboxlive | i am fine, and u? |
| 19:23.18 | paulproteus | Pretty well! |
| 19:23.41 | paulproteus | I'm having exco check out the state of your Magician images. I can't remember what the state of power management and GSM was. |
| 19:23.53 | paulproteus | I'd do it but I'm at a work lunch instead and I'm busy tonight. (-: |
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| 19:24.37 | goxboxlive | i dont remember the staus my self, but as i remember Openmoko should handle the phone ok. |
| 19:25.10 | goxboxlive | My Qtopia image doesnt. But maybe BabelO's Qtopia images for BA work. They are allmost the same. Just change the port settings |
| 19:25.23 | paulproteus | nods |
| 19:25.27 | paulproteus | That's in git also, right? |
| 19:25.31 | exco | pp, I don't know how long this is supposed to take (100MB r&w SD could take some time), |
| 19:25.31 | exco | the cursor keeps blinking |
| 19:26.05 | paulproteus | I don't remember either, but a fair bit of time. |
| 19:26.33 | exco | the Magician is somewhat "aged" nonetheless the CPU is still one of the fastest in those Smartphones |
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| 19:27.45 | exco | normally I'd listen if the harddrive makes any noise ... guess no luck with an SD-card |
| 19:27.49 | p3t3r__ | Hi, wanted to ask if there is a bugtracker for htccuniversal somewhere |
| 19:27.52 | kiozen | cr2_: bbl, have to collect some friends from the airport |
| 19:28.17 | cr2_ | kiozen: sent. |
| 19:28.19 | cr2_ | ok. |
| 19:28.51 | paulproteus | p3t3r__, I meant to set one up but I haven't and it's been a long time. |
| 19:28.58 | paulproteus | Well, I did set up a Trac but no one uses it. (-: |
| 19:29.07 | paulproteus | Maybe we should just track bugs on the handhelds.org wiki maybe. |
| 19:31.58 | p3t3r__ | ok, because besides acx-problems there are some other probs - after suspend the keyboard does not work well......... |
| 19:32.51 | paulproteus | I did create http://phonetrac.asheesh.org/cgi-bin/trac.cgi |
| 19:33.47 | exco | so the Angstrom image booted way faster |
| 19:34.01 | paulproteus | exco, The OM image will boot faster the next time. |
| 19:34.30 | exco | couldn't I just unpack the tar beforehand to speed it up? |
| 19:35.14 | exco | I mean the SD speed inside the Magician is just awful |
| 19:35.23 | paulproteus | I don't know how to extract the kernel out of the EXE. |
| 19:36.00 | paulproteus | If you could, then you could wrap it in haret and just boot via haret. |
| 19:36.16 | cr2_ | Update |
| 19:36.16 | cr2_ | Milestone: milestone1 |
| 19:36.17 | cr2_ | paulproteus: No date set |
| 19:36.32 | paulproteus | cr2_, Yeah, it's just an empty Trac. |
| 19:36.45 | paulproteus | I think better would be either a more plain bug tracker or to use a wiki page. |
| 19:37.52 | exco | can't I compile the kernel myself and use it with hret? |
| 19:37.57 | paulproteus | 'Course you can. |
| 19:38.05 | paulproteus | That just takes marginally longer. (-; |
| 19:38.20 | paulproteus | goxboxlive, Is your .config somewhere? |
| 19:38.35 | exco | My XDA is done with the 100MiB file, but doesn't seem to do anything now |
| 19:38.57 | goxboxlive | paulproteus: what .config? FOr magician? It's in the hh.org source |
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| 19:39.13 | paulproteus | Oh, okay, cool. |
| 19:39.16 | paulproteus | Howdy tsdogs. |
| 19:39.20 | exco | so atm there isn't much interest in Magician? |
| 19:39.27 | tsdogs | hi paulproteus |
| 19:39.46 | exco | I guess once Android is out on the first HTC phone that's gonna change? |
| 19:39.52 | paulproteus | exco, Heh, probably. (-: |
| 19:39.57 | paulproteus | exco, I'm personally interested in Magician. |
| 19:40.19 | cr2_ | exco: what's so special about magician ? |
| 19:40.27 | exco | I just like it |
| 19:40.35 | exco | nice fast CPU |
| 19:40.45 | paulproteus | My family doesn't make fun of me for its size like with Uni. (-: |
| 19:40.54 | exco | :-) |
| 19:40.57 | cr2_ | exco: a simple qvga phone with the 99% linux kernel port working |
| 19:41.21 | cr2_ | paulproteus: tell them about athena |
| 19:41.49 | paulproteus | http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/23/t-mobile-rolls-out-htc-athena-as-ameo/ - wow... |
| 19:42.08 | exco | I'd get an Artemis/Love if it wasn't sooo slow |
| 19:42.15 | cr2_ | paulproteus: runs qtopia for me. |
| 19:42.38 | exco | also I really like the Niki... just misses wlan and GPS |
| 19:42.38 | paulproteus | cr2_, Awesome. (-: |
| 19:42.48 | exco | so until... I'm sticking with my Magician |
| 19:43.25 | BabelO | cr2_: what is dwmode_sel ? |
| 19:43.35 | paulproteus | exco, It's supposed to boot OM once it finished untarring... |
| 19:44.11 | exco | pp: well it shows 19 more lines - so far |
| 19:44.21 | paulproteus | exco, that's good (-: |
| 19:44.39 | cr2_ | BabelO: sending the last version |
| 19:44.47 | exco | I put an sd card as ruler on it so I can see if sth progresses |
| 19:44.52 | BabelO | cr2_: ok thx |
| 19:45.41 | exco | the athena really looks nice - but as phone it's just too big |
| 19:46.40 | exco | also for that money... why not get one of those new eepc's? |
| 19:47.11 | cr2_ | exco: power consumption |
| 19:47.32 | cr2_ | athena is a pxa270 notebook |
| 19:47.35 | exco | less power = less power? |
| 19:47.36 | paulproteus | cr2_, Sleep and wake on ring work I guess? |
| 19:47.55 | cr2_ | paulproteus: the cpu sleep/wake is not a problem |
| 19:48.03 | exco | so ... linux runs on it... as on the ee? |
| 19:48.24 | cr2_ | paulproteus: the ATI wake is, hmm, rather complex without the docs |
| 19:48.34 | paulproteus | ATI... video? |
| 19:48.37 | cr2_ | exco: yes, and for a long time. |
| 19:48.39 | cr2_ | yes. |
| 19:49.01 | cr2_ | i use vsfb now, it will not survive suspend/resume |
| 19:49.05 | paulproteus | Interesting... |
| 19:50.01 | exco | we'll ... I don't usually need my laptop when I'm not in the vicinity of an electric outlet :-) |
| 19:50.09 | majorburn | how much driver reverse engineering do you use to figure things out?" |
| 19:50.13 | cr2_ | BabelO: sent |
| 19:50.41 | BabelO | cr2_: thx |
| 19:50.55 | exco | that seems like an awful long time for boot? |
| 19:51.32 | cr2_ | majorburn: many |
| 19:51.45 | paulproteus | exco, Right, but it's shorter the next time now that the thing has untarred. |
| 19:52.20 | exco | I'm not that patient ... so as long as the cursor flashes it's ok? |
| 19:52.41 | paulproteus | ...I think so... |
| 19:53.33 | exco | the athena is ~ 500 on ebay btw |
| 19:57.35 | exco | are there htc phones with better linux support? |
| 19:57.43 | dcordes | cr2_, can you assist me finding out fifo registers? |
| 19:58.18 | cr2_ | dcordes: not really. i'm missing the kaiser kernel for some reason ;) hmm. |
| 19:58.28 | exco | got 7 more lines |
| 19:58.56 | exco | head: Standard Output: I/O error doesn't sound too good though |
| 19:59.03 | cr2_ | exco: linux for magician is one of the best. universal is good and has a lot of other hardware. |
| 19:59.39 | paulproteus | exco, No, I agree... |
| 19:59.42 | exco | would it be useful to know the jtag points for further development |
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| 20:00.04 | exco | if - I would by a broken one and bake it :-P |
| 20:00.28 | cr2_ | exco: on magician ? only if you want to reflash the htc bootloader :) |
| 20:00.56 | exco | that' the goal in the long run ... isn't it? |
| 20:01.35 | paulproteus | By that point in the long run, we'll all have devices *meant* to run Linux. (-; |
| 20:02.25 | exco | I'll try a reset on my Magician |
| 20:04.49 | exco | guess sth went wrong. |
| 20:05.34 | exco | is that the latest image http://www.linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcmagician/ for OM? |
| 20:05.46 | cr2_ | exco: reflashing the bootloader is too dangerous for normal people. |
| 20:06.26 | exco | yes, but you could do it through a tool like when reflashing a baked image? |
| 20:06.58 | exco | or can you only do that through jtag? |
| 20:07.10 | exco | I mean replacing the bootloader |
| 20:08.41 | exco | the automount in Hardy is weird |
| 20:09.24 | dcordes | cr2_, I'm official developers of the linuxtogo kernel development now. looks like I should do some git reading |
| 20:10.34 | exco | back to creating the root file ... agian |
| 20:12.03 | exco | ok... I guess the partition is too small for a 100MB img on it... so. slap me on the head |
| 20:12.51 | majorburn | apt: smack exco |
| 20:12.51 | apt | ACTION smacks exco upside the head. |
| 20:13.38 | exco | thanks |
| 20:13.46 | majorburn | apt: cookie |
| 20:14.23 | dcordes | cr2_, http://projects.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/mobile-linux-discuss/2008-May/000029.html |
| 20:14.41 | exco | I'm trying qtopia before redoing the SD-card... |
| 20:19.06 | exco | same problem as before - no GSM |
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| 20:19.54 | pikapika | hi |
| 20:20.15 | majorburn | whatup |
| 20:20.34 | paulproteus | exco, rehi |
| 20:20.56 | exco | I just tried the qtopia image before redoing the partitions on the sd card |
| 20:21.14 | paulproteus | It should be feasible to rebuild Qtopia to work on the Magician with GSM. |
| 20:21.20 | exco | turns out I didn't have enough space on the fat |
| 20:21.33 | paulproteus | exco, Interesting, okay. |
| 20:21.37 | paulproteus | What makes you think that was the problem? |
| 20:21.39 | exco | the image from http://www.linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcmagician/ |
| 20:21.45 | exco | works but without gsm |
| 20:22.11 | exco | i only have 40 sth MB so the img only got 7MB big |
| 20:22.16 | paulproteus | exco, Also, do test the power stuff for sure, on whichever of these images has the newest kernel. |
| 20:22.37 | exco | power stuff? |
| 20:23.07 | exco | as far as I can tell the OM has the latest kernel (2.6.21-hh18) |
| 20:23.16 | paulproteus | exco, The questions I wanted answers to in that email. |
| 20:24.19 | exco | http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/Magician states GSM module workign |
| 20:24.34 | paulproteus | Yes - you can probably test it in e.g. Angstrom in a terminal by dialing maanually. |
| 20:24.43 | paulproteus | The hh.org wiki has instructions on that somewhere... |
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| 20:25.19 | dcordes | Kevin2, ping |
| 20:25.45 | exco | ok I'll look it up |
| 20:26.02 | exco | also if I get the OM working I'll let it stay on through the night |
| 20:26.36 | exco | I guess it will last though .. I've got a new high capacity battery |
| 20:27.59 | cr2_ | exco: you need to load the n_tihtc line discipline driver. |
| 20:28.26 | cr2_ | exco: GSM support in not really a kernel problem |
| 20:29.17 | exco | I can't even find a console for now |
| 20:29.19 | exco | :-) |
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| 20:34.09 | exco | ok... I guess I can do that |
| 20:34.51 | exco | cr2_: you're talking about that: http://projects.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/openembedded-commits/2007-March/004570.html? |
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| 20:37.18 | cr2_ | exco: yes |
| 20:37.49 | exco | cr2_: can I do that from the magician |
| 20:39.10 | Zoolooc | hi there |
| 20:39.43 | exco | hi |
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| 21:22.47 | BabelO | cr2_: serial8250.0: ttyS0 at MMIO 0xfffb0000 (irq = 47) is a ST16654 |
| 21:22.57 | BabelO | cr2_: serial8250.0: ttyS1 at MMIO 0xfffb0800 (irq = 46) is a ST16654 |
| 21:23.19 | BabelO | cr2_: but still hang when trying to cat on gps or use hciattach |
| 21:31.58 | cr2_ | BabelO: hangs ? |
| 21:32.07 | BabelO | cr2_: freeze |
| 21:32.15 | cr2_ | BabelO: the kernel crashes without any oops message ? |
| 21:32.20 | exco | paulproteus: with the OM image gsm is working |
| 21:32.34 | BabelO | cr2_: no ops messages |
| 21:35.16 | paulproteus | exco, Great! |
| 21:41.11 | exco | ui seems "unresponsive"/slow |
| 21:44.07 | cr2_ | BabelO: the sed script comes first :) |
| 21:46.41 | exco | I can even talk to myself over the phone :-) |
| 21:46.54 | exco | so mic and speaker are working too |
| 21:54.29 | exco | how can I pv an image back to the sd card? |
| 21:54.44 | majorburn | card back to an image you mean? |
| 21:55.38 | exco | if I extract with sudo pv /dev/sdb > /home/.../OpenMoko.img |
| 21:55.47 | exco | how can I do it the other way round? |
| 21:56.25 | majorburn | cat image > /dev/sdb |
| 21:56.33 | exco | wohow... I made my first call with linux |
| 21:56.42 | majorburn | nice feeling I bet |
| 21:56.59 | exco | I can't wipe that smile off |
| 21:57.50 | exco | thanks |
| 21:58.14 | majorburn | ah yes, if only someone was there when I experienced the same. at least i can give it to others. |
| 21:59.11 | exco | do I have to unmount the partitions or does it have a different reason that I get permission denied when trying to copy that image to the SD card |
| 22:00.12 | majorburn | may do bad things if you rewrite the underlying filesystem while its mounted |
| 22:01.00 | majorburn | at best you'll end up with an inconsistent image |
| 22:01.32 | exco | we'll I already have the images (hopefully not inconsistent ones though :-) ) |
| 22:01.53 | majorburn | errr, yeah. an inconsistent result rather |
| 22:02.19 | majorburn | freebsd would probably panic if it saw its underlying fs structures changed like that |
| 22:02.35 | majorburn | can only guess what linux would do |
| 22:02.48 | exco | $ sudo cat /home/.../Angstrom.img > /dev/sdb |
| 22:02.58 | exco | bash: /dev/sdb: Permission denied |
| 22:03.48 | majorburn | it's unmounted and doing that, and your SD write protect isnt on? |
| 22:04.17 | majorburn | do you have selinux enabled or something? |
| 22:04.18 | dcordes | exco, is that an image of the complete device or of a partition? |
| 22:04.29 | exco | unmounted (even deleted all partitions), no write protect |
| 22:04.36 | exco | image is of the complete device |
| 22:04.52 | exco | extracted with sudo pv /dev/sdb > /home/.../OpenMoko.img |
| 22:05.05 | majorburn | any selinux or the like? |
| 22:05.14 | exco | not that I know of |
| 22:05.17 | dcordes | don't know that. I do such things with dd or ddrescue |
| 22:05.46 | exco | I should find some more SD cards |
| 22:07.03 | majorburn | maybe it is an issue with cat :P |
| 22:07.44 | majorburn | errr the > /dev/sdb probably isn't being executed under sudo |
| 22:08.16 | dcordes | maybe some automounter stuff gets in your way. or it is really simply a permission problem? |
| 22:08.16 | majorburn | I think he's redirecting as his user :P |
| 22:08.16 | dcordes | try with sudo -s |
| 22:08.54 | exco | same output |
| 22:09.43 | Pryan | wenas |
| 22:09.44 | exco | I should have started using linux earlier... |
| 22:09.51 | dcordes | Pryan, what? |
| 22:11.08 | majorburn | I dunno, without figuring out the intricasies of sudo, I recommend sudo bash and then using the command :P |
| 22:13.04 | exco | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:13.21 | majorburn | yeah, that's because you're not using the shell redirect ">" |
| 22:13.39 | exco | learnt sth again |
| 22:13.48 | majorburn | what 'sudo cat something > file' does is run 'cat something' as root, then tries to redirect that, as your userm to 'file' |
| 22:14.53 | exco | thanks, ... guess that also explains why |
| 22:15.14 | exco | bzcat 123.tar.bz2 | (cd /mnt; tar x) |
| 22:15.17 | exco | doesn't work |
| 22:15.54 | majorburn | ahh, 'doesnt work' will frustate many people trying to help you. include some sort of diagnostic |
| 22:17.04 | exco | I mean, the one statement will be executed with sudo, the other won't |
| 22:17.11 | exco | like with | |
| 22:17.13 | exco | > |
| 22:17.28 | majorburn | oh sorry. i didnt realize those 3 lines were one statement |
| 22:18.03 | majorburn | i'd try quoting it. dont know if it would try to execute it as one single command though or not. that's probably what the -s has to do with. although i didnt look it up |
| 22:20.24 | exco | do you know of a gui tool for imagecreation and restoring? |
| 22:20.53 | majorburn | mmmm... creating iso images... |
| 22:21.06 | majorburn | im assuming you're talking about more than just cat device > image and cat image > device |
| 22:21.32 | exco | I gotta stop UI or I will never learn how to proper use the CLI |
| 22:31.28 | paulproteus | waves |
| 22:31.42 | paulproteus | Erm. |
| 22:31.42 | majorburn | have fun |
| 22:34.56 | Pryan | dcordes hi in spanish |
| 22:35.31 | exco | waves at who? |
| 22:36.20 | paulproteus | I dunno, everyone, but mostly you, exco. |
| 22:36.48 | paulproteus | Let me know if you have any more questions. |
| 22:37.03 | paulproteus | No question is to nooby. |
| 22:37.08 | paulproteus | too, even. |
| 22:37.15 | exco | :-) |
| 22:37.51 | exco | I'm currently trying the Angstrom image with the latest Kernel (don't expect much) |
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| 22:38.39 | miknix | hello all |
| 22:39.35 | dcordes | hi miknix |
| 22:44.48 | cr2_ | hi miknix |
| 22:45.58 | miknix | hum... |
| 22:46.02 | exco | gotta go for today... |
| 22:46.03 | miknix | SF.net uses openID? |
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| 22:47.02 | cr2_ | afaik not |
| 22:50.05 | miknix | cr2_, yeah.. it now uses openID |
| 22:52.01 | miknix | wonders if openID is compatible with google accounts |
| 22:57.11 | cr2_ | BabelO: 178 omap850 unique register names are referenced directly |
| 22:57.52 | BabelO | hi miknix |
| 22:57.54 | cr2_ | BabelO: now i need to join it with the OMAP850_Registers wiki table |
| 22:58.05 | cr2_ | to get the sane names |
| 22:58.09 | BabelO | cr2_: and a lot are referebced with iffset |
| 22:58.09 | exco | paulproteus: still here? |
| 22:58.17 | paulproteus | exco, Yup. |
| 22:58.34 | miknix | cr2_, the linwizard wiki has some information regarding the GPIOS too: http://linwizard.wiki.sourceforge.net/GPIO+Lines |
| 22:58.45 | cr2_ | BabelO: yes, but you'll never be able to dereference then in an automatic way |
| 22:58.50 | exco | do you know why sometimes I can see a fat16/32 partition on the Magician and sometimes not |
| 22:58.57 | miknix | I'm linking the XDA GPIOS page there |
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| 22:59.05 | exco | It seems I don't always get it right creating the partitions |
| 22:59.33 | cr2_ | BabelO: do you have the cam on artemis ? |
| 22:59.45 | BabelO | cr2_: yes 2Mpixel |
| 22:59.55 | cr2_ | BabelO: gpio traces ? |
| 23:00.42 | cr2_ | miknix: but it's on the prophet. are you sure that the gpios are 100% compatible with wiza ? |
| 23:01.07 | miknix | cr2_, dont know. I didn't touch on that page |
| 23:01.27 | miknix | usb is correct |
| 23:01.36 | BabelO | cr2_: not for camera |
| 23:02.36 | cr2_ | miknix: can you trace the i2c data register ? |
| 23:02.48 | cr2_ | miknix: btw, what does work on wizard ? |
| 23:03.13 | BabelO | cr2_: yes i have gpios 19 |
| 23:04.37 | cr2_ | BabelO: 19 ? |
| 23:04.46 | majorburn | according to the hermes instructions on the wiki, they talk about sd cards, and partitions. so does the sd work on the hermes? I haven't been able to try yet as I am still locating a microSD |
| 23:04.47 | miknix | cr2_, currently the keypad except directional keys, USB works, MMC worked with previous kernel versions (something is breaking it) although people with other HTC variants have MMC working with our branch. framebuffer works (although I have some interference on the screen when sliding the keyboard) |
| 23:05.17 | BabelO | cr2_: yes for camera and i2c transfer too |
| 23:05.32 | cr2_ | majorburn: for hermes you'd get the s3c2442 manual first, that i've posted yesterday night. |
| 23:05.38 | dcordes | cr2_, I did a rudimentary integration of smd into my kaiser tree |
| 23:05.50 | majorburn | 07:23 < cr2_> i have uploaded the s3c2442 user manual to http://jornada820.sf.net/docs/arm |
| 23:05.53 | majorburn | ok |
| 23:06.49 | cr2_ | miknix: how many LCD panels do you have on wizard ? i know a lot about artemis, but don't have time for wiza |
| 23:07.11 | cr2_ | miknix: so the SD is working, and it's the BabelO's config is wrong... |
| 23:07.39 | miknix | cr2_, on the HTC wizard technical paper it references two brands. TOPOLLY and SAMSUNG |
| 23:07.44 | BabelO | cr2_: sd does not work with latest kernel |
| 23:07.53 | cr2_ | dcordes: i think somebody (maybe even you) did a memory dump on kaiser. i'll check. |
| 23:08.45 | cr2_ | miknix: can you gather the technical data somewhere ? |
| 23:09.00 | miknix | cr2_, http://miknix.homelinux.com/linwizard |
| 23:09.08 | miknix | look at the ref-docs |
| 23:09.15 | miknix | the paper is there |
| 23:09.18 | cr2_ | BabelO: your fm radio is using i2c ? is it possible to trace i2c on arte ? |
| 23:09.34 | cr2_ | miknix: have you tried to trace the cpld ? |
| 23:09.41 | BabelO | cr2_: yes it is possible to trace i2c, i can trace camera i2c |
| 23:09.41 | miknix | cr2_, no |
| 23:09.58 | miknix | cr2_, lemmi finish cleaning the wiki, I'll take a look at it |
| 23:10.09 | cr2_ | miknix: the first thing we want to know is the i2c id of the cpld. |
| 23:10.19 | BabelO | cr2_: but i can only trace with usb, and radio need usb headphone connected, it is same connector |
| 23:11.01 | cr2_ | miknix: have you tried the i2c tools from lm_sensors ? |
| 23:11.10 | miknix | cr2_, no |
| 23:11.24 | cr2_ | BabelO: ok. my wifi ap looks dead in the recent time too ;) |
| 23:11.35 | dcordes | cr2_, think somebody else did it. I can make a new one of course |
| 23:12.45 | cr2_ | BabelO: http://pastebin.ca/1005517 |
| 23:14.03 | cr2_ | BabelO: i see some junk entries there, but otherwise it's ok. |
| 23:17.12 | exco | what if jumping to kernel doesn't work? does linux have sth against microsd cards? |
| 23:17.59 | majorburn | Pages 502->514 are SD. Does this mean it's relatively simple, or major pieces are missing... |
| 23:18.03 | paulproteus | exco, Hmm, I don't know I'm afraid. |
| 23:18.39 | paulproteus | exco, I never tried uSD, only normal SD myself. But uSD should be okay inside an adapter... |
| 23:19.14 | cr2_ | majorburn: there are 2 SDIO controllers on hermes. |
| 23:19.53 | cr2_ | majorburn: the S3C2442 controller is used for wifi SDIO config, and the ATI SD for the microSD card |
| 23:20.18 | miknix | cr2_, I've updated the http://linwizard.wiki.sourceforge.net/GPIO+Lines page with information available on the XDA wiki for wizard |
| 23:20.31 | cr2_ | majorburn: it's the same on trinity and similar to the athena. on athena wifi is on PXA270 SDIO and ATI SD is used for the miniSD card |
| 23:20.47 | miknix | cr2_, we can point http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=WizardGPIO to http://linwizard.wiki.sourceforge.net/GPIO+Lines |
| 23:21.09 | exco | hmm... so maybe I messed up the partitions again |
| 23:21.47 | exco | I can check that if I dv that 128MB MicroSD card and put it back on a regular SD card? |
| 23:21.49 | miknix | cr2_, K. its updated |
| 23:21.58 | cr2_ | miknix: ok. |
| 23:22.10 | miknix | there was too much redundancy |
| 23:22.38 | dcordes | do I need any filesystem kernel drivers when I only boot from initrd? |
| 23:22.56 | cr2_ | dcordes: ext2, if it's your initrd fs |
| 23:23.17 | dcordes | cr2_, they are cpio.gz files |
| 23:23.19 | paulproteus | exco, You can dd that 128MB uSD card and it should work fine on an SD card of equal or larger size. |
| 23:23.37 | dcordes | cr2_, I'm trying to get a lean kaiser .config |
| 23:23.45 | cr2_ | miknix: it's really interesting to see the i2c datastream. |
| 23:23.49 | exco | paulproteus: can I use pv to restore that image to the sd card? |
| 23:23.55 | paulproteus | exco, Sure, that should be fine. |
| 23:23.59 | paulproteus | Wherever I refer to dd you can use pv instead. |
| 23:24.00 | cr2_ | dcordes: then it's not an initrd but the initramfs |
| 23:24.05 | exco | how do I do that? |
| 23:24.26 | paulproteus | You should just run the pv as root. |
| 23:24.33 | paulproteus | Rather, run pv in a shell run as root. |
| 23:24.35 | paulproteus | sudo -s |
| 23:24.50 | paulproteus | Now pv /path/to/my/backup.img > /dev/sdb |
| 23:25.37 | exco | /dev/sdb: Permission denied |
| 23:25.40 | paulproteus | Hey! |
| 23:25.45 | dcordes | cr2_, ok do initramfs need any extra fs drivers? |
| 23:25.46 | paulproteus | I said to run it in a root shell, which you create with "sudo -s". |
| 23:26.21 | exco | ah... ok 2 separate commands |
| 23:26.41 | paulproteus | (-: |
| 23:27.19 | exco | ok... seems like I have sth wrong with my partitions again |
| 23:27.31 | exco | because the SD card now produces the same error |
| 23:28.55 | paulproteus | You might have just run out of space. |
| 23:28.59 | paulproteus | a 128MB card is rather small. |
| 23:29.17 | miknix | cr2_, K. I'm going to cross-compile lm sensors to get some i2c info |
| 23:29.36 | exco | the first partiton is 16,3 MB fat16 so that Windows Mobile can see it |
| 23:30.49 | exco | the second one ~105MB, ext3 - so it's enough ... |
| 23:31.16 | exco | seems you were right about unmouning before dumping an image |
| 23:31.33 | exco | 2/3 succeeded :-( |
| 23:31.34 | paulproteus | (-: exco |
| 23:31.39 | paulproteus | I don't give this advice for no reason. |
| 23:31.56 | exco | yes, I knew you were right |
| 23:32.18 | exco | it's just that I'm "addicted" to the red hot |
| 23:33.05 | paulproteus | (-: |
| 23:34.01 | cr2_ | miknix: you can use 'addlist mmutrace' in haret for the I2C data regiser |
| 23:34.44 | miknix | cr2_, hum.. I though I could find some interesting sensor like temperature sensors for touchscreen |
| 23:34.45 | exco | so ... the OM image has working GSM ... but the latest kernel I found is magician-linux-2.6.21-hh16 |
| 23:35.10 | exco | do you think I have a chance of getting the magician-linux-2.6.21-hh16 to worki with any of those images? |
| 23:36.45 | exco | I'll probably just go to a store tomorrow and buy some more SD cards |
| 23:36.57 | exco | darned - I had all working |
| 23:40.07 | dcordes | cr2_, I'm inside running kernel with (vogue) smd now |
| 23:41.25 | dcordes | oops forgot to add to initdata |
| 23:45.20 | cr2_ | BabelO: it's a bit bruteforced, but looks much better now. |
| 23:46.50 | cr2_ | BabelO: i'll send you the .lst and .sed, you can modify .sed from trm and send to me. |
| 23:47.07 | BabelO | cr2_: ok :) |
| 23:47.18 | BabelO | cr2_: i try with omap.c from tornado tree |
| 23:47.43 | dcordes | hm looks like smd needs no init |
| 23:48.08 | miknix | cr2_, I'm in haret |
| 23:48.40 | miknix | cr2_, what's the address range for the i2c? |
| 23:49.53 | cr2_ | miknix: wiki |
| 23:50.07 | BabelO | cr2_: lol, this one freeze the device |
| 23:50.20 | BabelO | miknix: 3800 |
| 23:50.25 | cr2_ | 0xfffb380e OMAP_I2C_DATA_REG |
| 23:50.56 | cr2_ | addlist mmutrace p2v(0xfffb380e) 4 |
| 23:50.59 | cr2_ | wi |
| 23:51.59 | cr2_ | wow. with such a huge list sed is really slow |
| 23:55.08 | dcordes | cr2_, did you find kaiser memory dump? |
| 23:55.35 | cr2_ | dcordes: no. only tita |
| 23:57.19 | paulproteus | exco, I think the later kernel could work with these images, sure. |
| 23:57.26 | paulproteus | exco, Just be sure to copy over the modules also. |
| 23:58.36 | miknix | cr2_, there: http://pastebin.com/d2f0e8f4f (using objdump) |
| 23:58.42 | dcordes | cr2_, how do you make memory dumps? |
| 23:58.43 | exco | if I can find them |
| 23:58.52 | dcordes | cr2_, can't find it in the haret doku |