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| 01:14.39 | mistadman | Whats up cr2! |
| 01:15.08 | mistadman | and everyone else... |
| 01:15.39 | paulproteus | (-:, mistadman |
| 01:15.49 | paulproteus | My Magician seems to show a red LED instead of powering on. |
| 01:15.52 | paulproteus | I wonder what that's about. |
| 01:16.25 | paulproteus | Oh, there it goes, now it works. |
| 01:16.35 | mistadman | paulproteus: Are you familar with the Linux Kernel? |
| 01:16.51 | mistadman | Hacking that is... |
| 01:16.59 | paulproteus | mistadman, Not super familiar, no, but I've done a little. Why? |
| 01:17.46 | mistadman | I am in the process of (trying) porting Android to the Athena, and had some questions |
| 01:18.00 | mistadman | Maybe you can answer them... |
| 01:18.49 | mistadman | Are you familar with register address? Example:http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwiki.xda-developers.com%2Findex.php%3Fpagename%3DATIWxxxx&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a |
| 01:24.29 | paulproteus | mistadman, I'm afraid not, but ph5 or cr2 are your two best bets. |
| 01:24.39 | paulproteus | As far as I know, at least; they sure talk a lot. (-: |
| 01:24.50 | mistadman | Cool, thanks anyways!!! |
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| 05:00.07 | paulproteus | Howdy goxboxlive. |
| 05:00.18 | goxboxlive | hi paulproteus |
| 05:00.30 | paulproteus | I'm bitbaking a new openmoko-devel-image for Magician. |
| 05:00.40 | goxboxlive | good |
| 05:01.12 | goxboxlive | How is openmoko working om magiacian theese days? I havent tested it for months now. |
| 05:01.22 | paulproteus | Your old image was pretty good, actually. |
| 05:01.29 | goxboxlive | i c |
| 05:01.30 | paulproteus | Wake on ring works, and suspend works. |
| 05:01.36 | goxboxlive | good |
| 05:01.54 | paulproteus | The screen is a little sensitive, and sometimes it doesn't stay asleep for me. |
| 05:02.02 | paulproteus | But maybe that's because I cause some event that wakes it up. |
| 05:02.31 | paulproteus | What was the difference between how you built your "Angstrom" image and your "OpenMoko" image? (re: the ones at htcpxa) |
| 05:02.42 | paulproteus | http://www.linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcmagician/ , that is. |
| 05:02.58 | paulproteus | I'm building OM using Angstrom. For some reason, the Angstrom one didn't have working GSM. |
| 05:03.24 | paulproteus | That is, your Angstrom image. Mine hasn't built yet. |
| 05:03.41 | goxboxlive | hmm i dont remember. It should be the same, OM is based on Angstrom |
| 05:03.49 | paulproteus | Yeah, I know, that's why I'm confused. (-: |
| 05:04.20 | goxboxlive | But, there might have been some changes in gsmd since i builded a image |
| 05:04.54 | goxboxlive | and maybe pH5 hasent updated the source for it. You should ask him about the status |
| 05:05.01 | paulproteus | You think changes that may have broken gsmd on Magician in those five months? |
| 05:05.08 | goxboxlive | yes |
| 05:05.14 | paulproteus | Interesting, I guess I'll see. |
| 05:05.15 | goxboxlive | that might be. |
| 05:05.50 | goxboxlive | There have been several of them when i was building images for magician. I allways told pH5 about it hand then he fixed it. |
| 05:06.11 | paulproteus | Okay, that's good at least. (-: |
| 05:06.19 | goxboxlive | So i guess, if no one has build images for magician the last five months that might cause it. |
| 05:06.29 | goxboxlive | Hav you tried to start gsmd manually via ssh? |
| 05:06.37 | paulproteus | Oh, no, I didn't try that on the Angstrom image. |
| 05:06.38 | goxboxlive | if you do you can see where it breaks |
| 05:06.51 | paulproteus | Also, I have forgotten how to compile Qtopia. |
| 05:07.00 | goxboxlive | allmost m,e to :-) |
| 05:07.01 | paulproteus | I seem to recall there's a .bb I can use. |
| 05:07.05 | paulproteus | (-: |
| 05:07.11 | goxboxlive | not for Qtopia |
| 05:07.22 | paulproteus | I thought there was one in the Qtopia tree. |
| 05:07.39 | paulproteus | Maybe not. |
| 05:07.58 | paulproteus | I remember we were supposed to do out-of-tree builds for some reason. |
| 05:08.00 | goxboxlive | well, it's for the NEO. I havent tested it but it is old now. |
| 05:08.19 | paulproteus | Okay. |
| 05:09.04 | goxboxlive | zecke has added Qtopia to Openembedded, but it need some work to have it working with uni/magician. I tested it once (several months ago) but it didnt run for me on the NEO. |
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| 05:09.19 | paulproteus | Oh, that's good to hear anyway. |
| 05:09.28 | goxboxlive | I have decided to wait for Qtopia-4.4 before o build new iomages for Universal/Magician. |
| 05:09.40 | paulproteus | For rotation, I guess? |
| 05:09.53 | paulproteus | He's not online right now - where does zecke hang out usually? |
| 05:10.38 | goxboxlive | Yes, and a webbrowser. There are so little that is changes in the source in the daily snapshot so i dont see the point anymore to use a lot of time to make images every day :-). |
| 05:11.18 | goxboxlive | Have you heard anything form the Gentoo guy lately? Has he got it running yet? |
| 05:11.31 | paulproteus | Oh, that Gentoo guy. |
| 05:11.37 | paulproteus | No, I don't think I've heard much from him. |
| 05:11.53 | paulproteus | I've been out of touch for a few months also, though, only just getting back into things. |
| 05:13.02 | goxboxlive | right |
| 05:13.48 | goxboxlive | i figured out i jused too much time on this, so thats why i am not is so active anymore :-) |
| 05:14.04 | goxboxlive | s/jused/used/ |
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| 05:19.04 | paulproteus | BTW, how do you create those crazy EXEs? |
| 05:21.59 | paulproteus | The ones with kernels and haret built in, I mean. |
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| 06:01.45 | paulproteus | goxboxlive, Er, the bitbake finished! |
| 06:01.49 | paulproteus | ...now, where does it put the image? |
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| 06:10.08 | paulproteus | Okay found it! |
| 06:26.33 | goxboxlive | good |
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| 07:00.07 | paulproteus | I'm going to go to sleep now. My Magician is at work, so I'll try the image tomorrow. (-: |
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| 09:51.48 | okias | Hello, probably HaRET not working on Kaiser correctly... i booted linux only twice... anytime it's stock on HaRET: Booting Linux ... |
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| 10:53.53 | marbalon | okias: do you boot just after reset ? what initrd image are you using ? |
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| 11:14.40 | okias | marbalon: http://baliniak.pl/android/ |
| 11:16.40 | marbalon | okias: wait a moment, I will update kernel and config |
| 11:22.07 | marbalon | okias: ok, update default.txt, and try to run haret |
| 11:22.26 | dcordes | hey okias my friend |
| 11:22.42 | marbalon | current config is for angstrom-console |
| 11:22.44 | dcordes | finally got your kaiser? :) |
| 11:22.47 | okias | dcordes: hi :-) |
| 11:22.55 | okias | dcordes: yeeeessssss :-D |
| 11:22.58 | dcordes | nice |
| 11:23.00 | okias | dcordes: but i hate WM :-D |
| 11:23.26 | okias | dcordes: USB mass storage crashing kaiser, wifi drivers dont have support promiscuis mode... :-D |
| 11:23.51 | dcordes | did you connect an usb stick? |
| 11:24.24 | okias | dcordes: i using WM5torage :-( |
| 11:24.31 | dcordes | ah ok |
| 11:24.41 | dcordes | you need extra power |
| 11:24.46 | okias | dcordes: after i click on Disconnect, WM freeze... :-/ great USB drivers |
| 11:25.06 | dcordes | so you can use it and it only freezes on disc.? |
| 11:25.08 | okias | dcordes: no, i mean using Kaiser like usb flash :-) |
| 11:25.16 | dcordes | ahh got ya |
| 11:26.34 | okias | marbalon: going to upload to Kaiser :-) |
| 11:27.08 | dcordes | okias: do you run on stock rom? |
| 11:28.11 | okias | dcordes: stock rom? i using default rom (MDA Vario III/Czech) |
| 11:28.17 | dcordes | ok |
| 11:28.51 | dcordes | marbalon: I looked at your patches yesterday and didn't understand one thing: why do you remove keypad init from board.c? Is it not needed? |
| 11:30.05 | marbalon | no, there is new driver for keyboard, it is inited via module_init() |
| 11:30.23 | dcordes | so you build it as a module, not built in? |
| 11:30.42 | marbalon | no build in, but module_init() is called to |
| 11:30.50 | dcordes | ok |
| 11:31.53 | okias | marbalon: why is initrd set to angstrom? |
| 11:32.08 | dcordes | set it to initrd-android |
| 11:32.14 | dcordes | when you want to boot initrd-android |
| 11:32.31 | marbalon | now try to boot smaler initrd file |
| 11:33.20 | dcordes | okias: at the moment booting can be hard some times. you will experience numerous crashes |
| 11:33.25 | marbalon | sometimes meny people have a problem wit big initrd file, but no solution found |
| 11:33.26 | okias | marbalon: ok, and any movement with SDIO wifi? :-) |
| 11:33.45 | dcordes | no relax. we don't have sd controllers working yet |
| 11:34.24 | dcordes | wifi is useful to get a remote console but it's more important to have storage working |
| 11:34.58 | dcordes | you will get your aircrack sooner or later :P |
| 11:36.05 | okias | :-D |
| 11:37.19 | okias | I can't decrypt WEP without promisc mode support :-( I must wait to linux drivers :-) |
| 11:37.35 | dcordes | beurk ltg git is not working |
| 11:38.15 | Marex | okias, EN:hi / CZ: cau |
| 11:38.46 | okias | Marex: Hi :-) |
| 11:39.21 | okias | Marex: neuhodnes co mam :-D |
| 11:39.26 | Marex | okias, pm |
| 11:39.40 | okias | ok :-) |
| 11:45.28 | dcordes | ~ping cr2 |
| 11:45.29 | apt | pong cr2 |
| 11:50.09 | okias | bye for now, i must go |
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| 12:25.46 | dcordes | marbalon: can I make \ somehow with the old keymap? |
| 12:27.19 | marbalon | dcordes: what key do you want to change ? |
| 12:29.58 | dcordes | marbalon: don't know. can I change keymap in running kernel? |
| 12:34.20 | dcordes | marbalon: I will rebuild with your new keymap later when git runs |
| 12:34.28 | dcordes | trying to talk to the modem |
| 12:34.32 | dcordes | at least finally I got the device node |
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| 12:54.35 | dcordes | modem won't talk to me. looks like we need to find out the correct size for AT fifo |
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| 13:20.07 | marbalon | dcordes: I have arrow keys working, now need to add backlight, clean up the code and maybe I finish kbd driver today |
| 13:20.44 | marbalon | dcordes: maybe camera btn as \ ? |
| 13:22.15 | dzo | hi dcordes, got smd working yet? |
| 13:24.10 | cr2 | hi |
| 13:24.30 | cr2 | dzo: do you know something about DEX ? |
| 13:24.47 | dzo | just lookad at the logs, seems not. probably uses a different A2M comms address |
| 13:25.34 | dzo | DEX is the wince name for the simple comms between a11 and a9 |
| 13:25.45 | cr2 | dzo: the uart1, sd and other registers are ioremap()'d |
| 13:25.52 | dzo | Data Exchange, it's not used much on vogue though. |
| 13:26.06 | cr2 | on the kaiser unfortunately. |
| 13:26.56 | cr2 | i've also fixed the DMA config area. it's different on 7x00 from 7x00A, and is my best guess |
| 13:27.07 | dzo | all regs are shadow regs really i think |
| 13:27.12 | cr2 | dzo: i've also documented all gpio with ALT function settings. |
| 13:27.18 | dzo | thats good, what is different |
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| 13:27.58 | cr2 | 7200A has the same base DMA offset, 7x00 has split the areas |
| 13:28.53 | cr2 | a94* - a97* on 7x00, and a97* only on 7200A |
| 13:29.19 | dzo | ok, what needs dma? sd uses it and audio, anything else? |
| 13:30.27 | cr2 | BT |
| 13:30.40 | dzo | ok, that would be useful. |
| 13:30.42 | cr2 | +dex'd uart1 |
| 13:31.02 | cr2 | on kaiser. is it shadowed on vogue ? |
| 13:31.03 | dzo | what's that? |
| 13:31.24 | dzo | is what shadowed? |
| 13:31.30 | cr2 | the uart1 |
| 13:31.49 | cr2 | can you trace the uart1 register access ? |
| 13:31.50 | dzo | isn't everything shadowed? |
| 13:31.58 | cr2 | afaik no. |
| 13:32.13 | dzo | i'll try some time. |
| 13:32.15 | cr2 | the SD regs on titan were traceable, but not on kaiser. |
| 13:32.46 | dzo | I don't really understand why not. |
| 13:33.39 | dzo | is it a problem with haret. surely you should be able to cause a page fault for mem accesses to hardware. |
| 13:36.27 | cr2 | ok |
| 13:37.24 | dzo | on vogue, i/o is done by marking mem as device-nonshared in the pte with the ext bits. |
| 13:37.37 | cr2 | i've also identified both cams on kaiser. |
| 13:37.48 | cr2 | are the ext bit documented somewhere ? |
| 13:38.12 | cr2 | one cam has an OLPC driver, for the bigger i've found the datasheet. |
| 13:38.12 | dzo | good, how are they attached? |
| 13:38.34 | dzo | in the arm1136 docs. |
| 13:39.00 | cr2 | msm7x00 has an alt gpio + mddi2 |
| 13:39.11 | cr2 | ok |
| 13:40.51 | cr2 | here is the full kaiser list http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=KaiserResearch |
| 13:41.33 | dzo | ok, I've got to go, it's late here... good night. I'm writing a RIL interface for android to get some more phone functions working, it's nearly done. I'll check out the kaiser stuff. |
| 13:41.51 | BabelO | hi |
| 13:41.55 | cr2 | ok, good night |
| 13:41.59 | cr2 | hi BabelO |
| 13:42.02 | BabelO | cr2: what about your lcdspi driver ? :) |
| 13:42.20 | cr2 | BabelO: had no time to finish it. |
| 13:42.39 | cr2 | BabelO: ba6 and artemis should be easier to support. |
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| 14:57.33 | dcordes | hi |
| 14:57.57 | dcordes | holy moly now I missed dzo |
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| 14:59.48 | dcordes | anyway I got the device node. it was a problem with my rootfs. /proc was not mounted |
| 15:01.04 | dcordes | but the arm9 is very silent now. I think the current fifo registers I set are not working that way |
| 15:01.10 | dcordes | I need to get the correct size I think |
| 15:01.30 | dcordes | I issued several at commands but get no reply |
| 15:06.07 | dcordes | cr2: "pwf kaiser9 0x0 0x900000" will dump the complete shared memory region? |
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| 15:28.36 | dcordes | ah that's the bootloader and stuff |
| 15:31.04 | dcordes | 0x01f00000 is the base so I would pwf smem ? 0x01f00000 |
| 15:31.07 | dcordes | what's ?`? |
| 15:31.51 | dcordes | pwf addr size |
| 15:32.09 | dcordes | pwf 0x01f00000 what's the size I need to dump the complete kaiser shared mem? |
| 15:32.12 | cr2 | dcordes: yes. |
| 15:32.22 | cr2 | 1MB, and you have already done it |
| 15:32.28 | cr2 | BabelO: http://googlesightseeing.com/2008/05/07/street-view-sabotage |
| 15:32.44 | dcordes | cr2: I know. I tried to find it in the logs |
| 15:33.40 | dcordes | cr2: but we couldn't get the correct size out of the dump and dzo told me maybe the buffers were not full |
| 15:34.12 | dcordes | so I decided to do other dumps while I stress the buffer de/registring to the network |
| 15:36.44 | dcordes | pwf smem 0x01f00000 0x100000 |
| 15:38.50 | dcordes | hmm 11 should sufice |
| 15:38.59 | cr2 | 8K looks like a full AT buffer |
| 15:39.11 | cr2 | hm. is mean FIFO |
| 15:39.40 | cr2 | it's obviuosly full, and cut at both sides. |
| 15:40.49 | dcordes | the dump you have? |
| 15:42.03 | cr2 | yes |
| 15:43.04 | cr2 | dcordes: i'd say fixing the mmutrace for msm should be done before guessing. |
| 15:44.49 | dcordes | cr2: ok the dumps I have now look all the same |
| 15:44.55 | dcordes | so they should bring the same results |
| 15:45.34 | dcordes | (excpet of the first one having asterisk lines) |
| 15:46.07 | dcordes | oh they all do |
| 15:47.08 | dcordes | cr2: so how can we fix the mmutracing? We get erros becuase the ram is protected, right? |
| 15:50.11 | cr2 | we need to ask Kevin2 |
| 15:50.26 | dcordes | Kevin2: ping |
| 15:51.50 | dcordes | cr2: maybe there is some stupid watchdog that creates the crash? |
| 15:52.29 | dcordes | oh no crash that was something else |
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| 15:56.10 | BabelO | cr2: lol, after the ghost o picture, now thebag over camera :) good idea |
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| 16:00.18 | BabelO | cr2: do you know this http://citeseer.ist.psu.edu/ , very usefull for my work, you can find interesting things too |
| 16:00.23 | dcordes | bbl |
| 16:00.48 | cr2 | BabelO: yes. |
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| 16:20.39 | cr2 | BabelO: qt4.4 released ? |
| 16:21.30 | BabelO | cr2: don't know, i did not check |
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| 16:47.24 | p3t3r__ | BabelO, cr2: http://labs.trolltech.com/blogs/2008/05/06/qt-440-fully-released/ |
| 16:48.14 | cr2 | p3t3r__: yes, i'm compiling the x11 version. what about qtopia ? |
| 16:49.09 | dcordes | cr2: what is a RIL interface dzo mentioned? |
| 16:50.10 | cr2 | dcordes: ril is the microsoft way to talk to the phone. don't know what android innovated around it. |
| 16:52.13 | dcordes | cr2: software that handles the smem at and data flow? |
| 16:53.17 | cr2 | no, smem should be handled by the kernel |
| 16:54.35 | dcordes | cr2: what is actually happening through the smem? AT commands... ? |
| 16:55.14 | cr2 | BabelO: qtopia is still 4.3.1 |
| 16:55.32 | cr2 | dcordes: yes ,but not only that. |
| 16:56.55 | p3t3r__ | cr2: nothing new there ftp://ftp.trolltech.com/qtopia/source/ |
| 16:57.42 | dcordes | cr2: what else? |
| 17:00.17 | cr2 | dcordes: the data channel |
| 17:01.22 | dcordes | cr2: does data include audio? |
| 17:05.26 | miknix | cr2, I made a i2c-cpld driver |
| 17:06.00 | cr2 | dcordes: no, i meant the UMTS data. don't know about the audio. |
| 17:06.06 | miknix | cr2, it works great |
| 17:06.12 | cr2 | miknix: a link to the source ? |
| 17:06.20 | cr2 | miknix: very nice indeed. |
| 17:06.38 | dcordes | cr2: I see AT=at commands, SMD1=umts, I guess audio also has one smem channel then? |
| 17:07.07 | cr2 | SMD7 gps |
| 17:07.17 | dcordes | cr2: anyway.. what I wanted to ask: What information do we need to provide for Kevin2 to help with the mmutrace problem? |
| 17:07.17 | miknix | cr2, http://pastebin.com/d6ee71631 |
| 17:07.39 | cr2 | dcordes: can you switch gps on, and peek into the 0x1f* megabyte ? |
| 17:08.08 | miknix | cr2, do you think this will work with other HTCs? I can start thinking in a more "general" way to implement the driver |
| 17:08.20 | cr2 | #include <linux/i2c/htcwizard-cpld.h> |
| 17:08.22 | dcordes | cr2: of course. I would like to tell the haret mailinglist about the problem |
| 17:09.13 | miknix | cr2, http://pastebin.com/d105110fd |
| 17:09.16 | cr2 | miknix: yes, all other omap850 htc phones use i2c-cpld (except artemis) |
| 17:10.03 | cr2 | miknix: orange != red+green ? we always have this discussion :) |
| 17:10.19 | dcordes | amber |
| 17:10.24 | cr2 | yes |
| 17:10.29 | miknix | cr2, it looks like a different led to me |
| 17:10.58 | miknix | cr2, http://pastebin.com/d7f22cb0a |
| 17:11.00 | cr2 | miknix: if you switch red and green on at the same time, what happens ? |
| 17:11.08 | miknix | cr2, orange |
| 17:11.25 | cr2 | the same, or different ? |
| 17:11.45 | miknix | cr2, the same |
| 17:11.59 | miknix | cr2, look at the logic input of the cpld: http://linwizard.wiki.sourceforge.net/I2C |
| 17:12.14 | cr2 | miknix: i think it's a good idea to replace htcwizard-cpld by more device-neutral name |
| 17:12.26 | miknix | cr2, i2c-cpld? |
| 17:12.32 | miknix | htc-cpld? |
| 17:12.46 | dcordes | maybe something that goes together with htc-egpio well |
| 17:12.47 | cr2 | htc-i2c-cpld ? |
| 17:12.48 | dcordes | just an idea |
| 17:13.55 | miknix | cr2, ok |
| 17:14.38 | cr2 | miknix: backlight_device_register ("htcwiz-bl" |
| 17:14.55 | cr2 | can you name it generic-bl ? |
| 17:15.03 | miknix | cr2, course |
| 17:15.08 | dcordes | cr2: can you answer my question above concerning mmutrace? I think it would be good to post the problem on haret ml |
| 17:15.33 | cr2 | because it will make the userspace more simple. |
| 17:16.16 | cr2 | dcordes: yes, i agree. somebody (Kevin2?) needs to fix the mmu bits/ control for arm1136 cpus. |
| 17:16.48 | cr2 | miknix: what about SD power ? |
| 17:17.10 | miknix | cr2, its located under chip 5, but could not find exactly the logic to enable it |
| 17:18.05 | cr2 | miknix: is there any correlation with wizardcpld wiki page ? the values there are as they are used by htc. |
| 17:18.25 | cr2 | maybe it'll give you some hint |
| 17:18.26 | dcordes | cr2: I think it would be better if you could compose the mail. I don't have a too good understanding of the issue. |
| 17:18.50 | miknix | cr2, didnt look much at wizardcpld |
| 17:18.54 | miknix | page |
| 17:19.52 | miknix | cr2, are all the logic combinations similar to all htc cplds? |
| 17:20.03 | cr2 | 5 2 0x04 sd power=1 |
| 17:20.31 | cr2 | miknix: i doubt that htc produced different cplds for omap850 phones. |
| 17:20.43 | paulproteus | exco, Hey, I have a new Magician rootfs. |
| 17:20.46 | paulproteus | Let me make it appear on the web. |
| 17:20.55 | dcordes | cr2: ok with you? |
| 17:21.17 | cr2 | miknix: wizardcpld ^^^ |
| 17:21.22 | cr2 | dcordes: sure |
| 17:21.50 | miknix | cr2, hum.. cause otherwise it would be complicated to make the htc-i2c-cpld driver working for all |
| 17:21.53 | cr2 | miknix: can you control the vibra ? |
| 17:21.54 | exco | paulproteus: I know... I've seen it when I got up this morning :-) |
| 17:21.56 | miknix | cr2, yes |
| 17:22.00 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:22.01 | paulproteus | exco, Cool (-: |
| 17:22.18 | paulproteus | exco, The complete build from scratch took about 15 hours for openmoko-devel-image and happened without any trouble. |
| 17:22.18 | exco | but I couldn't find out how to download it |
| 17:22.31 | miknix | cr2, yeah.. that bit is similar to us too |
| 17:22.34 | exco | otherwise I'd already tested it |
| 17:23.04 | miknix | cr2, I'll need you help later when implementing the keypad handler |
| 17:23.36 | miknix | cr2, I need to find some way to get interrupts when the dpad is pressed |
| 17:23.53 | miknix | cr2, otherwise I'll have to do polling |
| 17:23.55 | dcordes | cr2: cool thanks. Hope somebody will be able to fix this. |
| 17:24.01 | cr2 | miknix: ok |
| 17:24.02 | paulproteus | exco, http://unstable.makesad.us/~paulproteus/deploy/ |
| 17:24.11 | paulproteus | In particular, http://unstable.makesad.us/~paulproteus/deploy/glibc/images/magician/ |
| 17:24.38 | paulproteus | I have to do some work, so I can't test that right now - so how about you test it? (-: |
| 17:24.46 | miknix | cr2, also, what do you know about values returned by i2c chips? |
| 17:25.59 | exco | I will download and try it out as soon as I get home |
| 17:26.00 | miknix | cr2, we know that odd number chips returns the status of direactional pad buttons and even number chips returns the status of the directional pad of qwerty kb |
| 17:26.48 | exco | I hope it works better than the one I upgraded to destruction |
| 17:27.07 | paulproteus | exco, Great (-: |
| 17:27.14 | paulproteus | BTW, it took 17G of disk space. |
| 17:27.50 | Marex | smells OE |
| 17:27.52 | exco | paulproteus: ... I read somewhere it takes about 5GB so I didn't really look when I tried building |
| 17:28.58 | exco | and normally diskspace isn't a problem - just now I have this messed up ntfs partition(s) that I need to take care of (restoring files...) so I couldn't use those |
| 17:29.13 | dcordes | paulproteus: that's nothing for OE :) |
| 17:29.15 | paulproteus | nods |
| 17:29.38 | dcordes | what did you bake? |
| 17:29.46 | dcordes | openmoko-image? |
| 17:30.11 | paulproteus | openmoko-devel-image |
| 17:31.25 | exco | openmoko-devel-image |
| 17:32.05 | dcordes | think that's the openmoko-image+debug stuff |
| 17:32.30 | dcordes | do you guys have a reasonably working GUI with that new image? |
| 17:32.39 | dcordes | or still qvga breakage? |
| 17:32.39 | paulproteus | Beats me, exco or I will be testing later (-: |
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| 17:33.12 | dcordes | ok let me know. I'm really curious about that. |
| 17:33.32 | dcordes | wants to make a nice openmoko image for blueangel |
| 17:34.02 | exco | I hope it's working with qvga, but I expect a result similar to the one I'm having with upgrading an older OM image using the daily build feed |
| 17:34.28 | dcordes | exco: what kind of image did you base that on? qvga one? |
| 17:34.37 | exco | yes, dcordes |
| 17:34.50 | dcordes | what date? |
| 17:35.03 | exco | dec 07 |
| 17:35.36 | dcordes | ah ok that is like two months before I experienced the same with htcbluenagel builds. did you see bugzilla yet, btw? |
| 17:36.19 | paulproteus | dcordes, I haven't. |
| 17:36.36 | exco | I've seen a filed bug on qvga (if I remember correctly) with some proposed solutions |
| 17:38.03 | exco | btw, what happened to Zabel stepping up as machine mentor for magician? |
| 17:38.38 | dcordes | http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1280 http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1283 |
| 17:39.42 | dcordes | exco: pH5? I think machine mentor for OE can be very time consuming and pH5 seems pretty busy with lots of stuffs |
| 17:40.18 | paulproteus | Looks like we should use openmoko-standard instead of the qvga theme. |
| 17:40.46 | exco | I was just wondering because I read in some post he was considering it. |
| 17:40.54 | dcordes | paulproteus: for the first look yes. but there is not only the icons changing vga>qvga but also the gtk theming. |
| 17:41.21 | dcordes | look at the openmoko-theme-standard2.bb |
| 17:42.13 | exco | so that doesn't sound too good |
| 17:42.49 | dcordes | I think the most logic solution would be to put gtk qvga theme also into the normal theme |
| 17:43.30 | dcordes | take a look at task-openmoko-ui*.bb |
| 17:43.38 | dcordes | (in tasks) |
| 17:45.19 | paulproteus | exco, You have sudo on unstable.makesad.us so feel free to "sudo su - paulproteus" and look around. |
| 17:49.32 | exco | thanks, I will |
| 17:51.15 | dcordes | paulproteus: exco would be great if you could append your observations on the ui problem to the bug #1280 |
| 17:51.21 | dcordes | bbl |
| 17:51.32 | paulproteus | nods |
| 17:51.41 | paulproteus | I won't be observing anything until later tonight; hopefully exco can beat me to the punch! |
| 17:54.58 | exco | I certainly will -> 1280 |
| 17:55.13 | exco | I can report back in about 2h |
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| 19:04.20 | kiozen | hi all |
| 19:04.29 | kiozen | cr2: around? |
| 19:06.47 | BabelO | hi kiozen |
| 19:06.53 | kiozen | hi BabelO |
| 19:07.18 | BabelO | how is the loox ? |
| 19:07.42 | kiozen | so,so, around 60% success |
| 19:07.52 | BabelO | ? |
| 19:08.01 | kiozen | major problem was booting the device |
| 19:08.19 | kiozen | the kernel hangs 4 aoutof 5 times because |
| 19:08.30 | kiozen | it failes to mount the rootfs |
| 19:08.52 | kiozen | if it succeed it booted right into M |
| 19:09.08 | kiozen | however the gps is real shit |
| 19:09.21 | kiozen | we sat under a tree and hardly got a sattelite |
| 19:09.30 | BabelO | :( |
| 19:09.38 | kiozen | when we finally had a fix I noticed |
| 19:09.47 | BabelO | even with the rootdelay parameter ? |
| 19:10.09 | BabelO | kiozen: my artemis gps is fine :) |
| 19:10.15 | kiozen | that something in the projection stuff is wrong as the location was 180m too much north |
| 19:10.28 | kiozen | BabelO: has nothing to do with rootdelay |
| 19:10.55 | kiozen | They perfectly fucked up the sirfIII in the Loox :( |
| 19:11.25 | kiozen | a waypoint was 180m north too |
| 19:11.55 | kiozen | Thus I could show the basic funtions, but also presented thes big problems |
| 19:12.23 | kiozen | however slippy map was pretty fast and smooth :) |
| 19:13.10 | BabelO | what s the big problem ? |
| 19:13.26 | kiozen | booting |
| 19:13.38 | kiozen | and many little issues with M |
| 19:13.48 | BabelO | that's strange cr2 did not found why ;) |
| 19:14.04 | kiozen | cr2: he is using haret not loadlin |
| 19:14.15 | BabelO | ahh |
| 19:14.26 | BabelO | and it boot with haret on first start ? |
| 19:14.56 | BabelO | that is the same |
| 19:16.22 | kiozen | hm, can't tell, sofar I had always problems with loadlin |
| 19:16.54 | kiozen | if you wait a bit after booting wince it seems that chances to boot in linux are better |
| 19:17.22 | kiozen | maybe wince is setting up / interfering with the hw in some unexpected was |
| 19:17.33 | kiozen | s/was/way/ |
| 19:18.20 | kiozen | Anyway, I could proof that the concept is working in real life and that it worth to wait a few more month :) |
| 19:18.43 | kiozen | but still some way to go until the 1st release |
| 19:19.43 | BabelO | kiozen: that strange , Marex have similar device than you |
| 19:20.03 | BabelO | kiozen: what command line did you use ? |
| 19:20.22 | kiozen | commandline? simply started linload.exe |
| 19:20.37 | kiozen | don't know what cr2 compiled in |
| 19:20.44 | BabelO | kiozen: yes but when you compile linload.exe you pass a startup.txt file |
| 19:21.16 | kiozen | set MTYPE 1417 |
| 19:21.16 | kiozen | set cmdline "root=/dev/mmcblk0 rootdelay=10" |
| 19:21.16 | kiozen | ramboot |
| 19:21.34 | kiozen | that is what I used, but don't know what cr2 actually did |
| 19:23.06 | BabelO | kiozen: you can try to add mem=60M , hey you boot without partition ? |
| 19:23.36 | kiozen | BabelO: yes, but can't try anything now - no device :) |
| 19:24.20 | cr2 | hi kiozen |
| 19:24.28 | cr2 | i've read the log |
| 19:24.39 | kiozen | hi cr2 :) |
| 19:24.57 | kiozen | still some work left until world domination |
| 19:24.59 | cr2 | these are obviously the haret problems. |
| 19:25.42 | cr2 | i think haret should disable much more while booting. |
| 19:26.40 | kiozen | I had the feeling that chances increase if you give wince a minute to do waht ever it wants to do |
| 19:27.02 | cr2 | some things can be already done by extending the default.txt |
| 19:27.32 | cr2 | kiozen: did you switch to 624MHz before booting ? |
| 19:28.25 | kiozen | nope |
| 19:28.45 | cr2 | that's bad. |
| 19:28.56 | kiozen | what is the default of wince? |
| 19:28.57 | cr2 | usually wince runs at104MHZ |
| 19:29.00 | kiozen | ok |
| 19:29.05 | cr2 | it's dynamic. |
| 19:29.34 | cr2 | and i guess the CPU runs with lower voltage. |
| 19:29.50 | cr2 | when you boot linux, it runs at 624MHz |
| 19:30.14 | cr2 | don't know if it's pissible to change that on the kernel commandline |
| 19:30.27 | cr2 | but 624MHz needs higher voltage. |
| 19:30.51 | cr2 | so it may randomly crash at boot. |
| 19:31.44 | kiozen | it's always the same error that it failes to find/mount/access the rootfs |
| 19:32.06 | cr2 | ? |
| 19:32.07 | kiozen | maybe the SD controller is setup badly? |
| 19:32.23 | cr2 | never seen that with haret |
| 19:32.41 | kiozen | me very often with loadlin |
| 19:32.57 | kiozen | linload :) |
| 19:33.03 | cr2 | strange. |
| 19:33.21 | kiozen | maybe my SD card? |
| 19:33.46 | cr2 | maybe it's the slow card, |
| 19:33.58 | cr2 | but then it's a pxamci driver problem |
| 19:34.11 | kiozen | hm, I just bought it befor last christmas |
| 19:34.16 | cr2 | how big was your card ? |
| 19:34.30 | cr2 | mine was an old 512MB toshiba card. |
| 19:34.49 | kiozen | 2GB |
| 19:34.56 | cr2 | and a 512MB miniSD |
| 19:35.08 | cr2 | hmm. |
| 19:35.26 | cr2 | ok, i think we'd switch to 2.6.25 first |
| 19:35.38 | cr2 | because it has the pxamci driver rewritten. |
| 19:36.35 | cr2 | kiozen: btw, was it like that ? :) http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-de/2008-May/010549.html |
| 19:38.24 | kiozen | noooo, geocachers are more like wizzards, we try to stay unrecognized in the muggle world |
| 19:38.30 | cr2 | kiozen: i've compiled qt4.4, we will see if GT still works. |
| 19:38.31 | cr2 | lol |
| 19:39.12 | kiozen | that is why we sit with pdas and laptops in the beergarden and discuss loudly about tuppaware and map projections |
| 19:39.41 | cr2 | ok |
| 19:40.10 | cr2 | BabelO: do you have the new htc-egpio driver for artemis ? i'd like to check it with n560 |
| 19:41.21 | kiozen | shit I forgot to commit GT from work pc |
| 19:44.06 | kiozen | cr2: btw I got my A3 scanner today |
| 19:44.25 | cr2 | kiozen: i'm going to test lcdspi today, and if it'll work, i'll switch to 2.6.25 |
| 19:44.31 | cr2 | a good one ? |
| 19:44.53 | kiozen | http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B000VJ6ZMM |
| 19:45.17 | kiozen | tought it's the same as yours, but seems to be not. it's not supported by sane |
| 19:45.26 | cr2 | 600x1200 |
| 19:45.32 | cr2 | it's twice the resultion |
| 19:45.40 | cr2 | "Pro" is the difference. |
| 19:46.20 | kiozen | hm |
| 19:47.09 | kiozen | well I told VirtualBox to relay the usb device :) |
| 19:47.25 | cr2 | ok. |
| 19:48.59 | kiozen | grr that is really bad with the missing commit, I wanted to test my Garmin integration in GT |
| 19:50.51 | cr2 | for tracks/points ? |
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| 19:52.40 | kiozen | cr2: yes |
| 19:52.57 | kiozen | and PVT information |
| 19:54.35 | cr2 | ok |
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| 20:18.57 | miknix | cr2, http://pastebin.com/d7c1247b |
| 20:19.43 | miknix | cr2, http://pastebin.com/d3d82396c |
| 20:20.17 | miknix | cr2, http://pastebin.com/d2f6aa7 |
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| 20:58.54 | paulproteus | exco, Keep me posted (-: |
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| 21:27.33 | exco | hi paulproteus, downloaded everything... phone boots for about 15 minutes (does it take this long the first time?) |
| 21:27.48 | paulproteus | Uh, wow, that's a long time. |
| 21:27.50 | paulproteus | I don't know, maybe... |
| 21:27.54 | exco | and still hasn't loaded the UI |
| 21:27.59 | paulproteus | Boy oh boy. |
| 21:28.01 | paulproteus | SSH in I guess. |
| 21:28.04 | paulproteus | That's Kwality with a capital K. |
| 21:29.02 | exco | can't ssh in - maybe I just have to adjust interfaces or load g_ether |
| 21:29.26 | exco | or I'm doing sth wrong |
| 21:30.16 | paulproteus | Can you ping it? |
| 21:33.07 | exco | I'll setup interfaces according my config and try again |
| 21:48.52 | exco | I can't get it to work :-( |
| 21:52.05 | dcordes | wifi? |
| 21:52.38 | dcordes | exco: |
| 21:54.30 | exco | dcordes: Magician has no wifi |
| 21:55.23 | exco | the zImages are identical as are the openmoko-devel-image-magician.tar and Angstrom-openmoko-devel-image-glibc-ipk-2008.1-test-20080509-magician.rootfs.tar? |
| 21:58.11 | goxboxlive | paulproteus: did you test your openmoko image? |
| 21:58.29 | paulproteus | exco is testing it. |
| 21:58.36 | paulproteus | It seems to be failing tests... |
| 21:59.50 | goxboxlive | tests? |
| 22:09.07 | exco | http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/4763/magicianmay102008fz2.jpg |
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| 22:17.20 | exco | tar -> ext, /boot/zImage -> fat, default.txt + hret (did I miss sth?) |
| 22:24.13 | dcordes | is building qvga minimal-openmoko-image |
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| 22:37.40 | exco | what do I have to do to be able to copy files to the device using fish? |
| 22:37.54 | exco | (it's already connected through usb) |
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| 23:05.23 | paulproteus | exco, Nope, that should be it. |
| 23:05.35 | paulproteus | exco, fish requires being able to SSH to the thing. |
| 23:06.08 | paulproteus | Curious that kexec is used. |
| 23:06.12 | paulproteus | I don't remember it being used before. |
| 23:09.07 | exco | did you give it a try with the new image? |
| 23:09.17 | paulproteus | Not yet. |
| 23:18.47 | dcordes | yawns |
| 23:18.58 | dcordes | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:48.48 | exco | :-) that's pretty fast compared to my box |
