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| 00:01.27 | cr2 | to blank |
| 00:01.34 | Marex | oyasumi ! :) |
| 00:01.36 | cr2 | login over usb |
| 00:01.43 | Marex | time for a good night sleep :) |
| 00:01.48 | cr2 | Marex: wm9750 |
| 00:02.07 | Marex | cr2, gnight to you too :) |
| 00:02.20 | cr2 | Marex: think about it while you are sleeping :) |
| 00:02.43 | Marex | damn ... now I'll have nightmares ;/ |
| 00:03.12 | dcordes | cr2: no usb |
| 00:03.23 | dcordes | maybe I should try with the BabelO qtopia |
| 00:03.56 | BabelO | dcordes: apm -s |
| 00:04.52 | dcordes | BabelO: and wakeup? |
| 00:05.12 | BabelO | press power |
| 00:05.28 | cr2 | dcordes: use echo 4 ; sleep 5; echo 0 |
| 00:08.38 | BabelO | cr2: ok, things in eol works like when i boot from wince |
| 00:10.16 | cr2 | BabelO: you can enhance eol :) |
| 00:10.39 | BabelO | cr2: should be hard to add asic3 mmc here ? |
| 00:10.47 | cr2 | where ? |
| 00:10.54 | BabelO | cr2: for eol |
| 00:11.12 | cr2 | eol is very omap-centered |
| 00:11.27 | BabelO | cr2: it is used to parse fat partition for multiboot |
| 00:11.39 | cr2 | i think even the hx4700 bootldr doesn't support asic3_mmc |
| 00:11.41 | BabelO | cr2: any way now i ve the artemis key for it |
| 00:11.59 | cr2 | it's different ? |
| 00:12.03 | BabelO | cr2: strange thing is that my key are same than tornado, but not in same order |
| 00:12.11 | cr2 | ok. |
| 00:12.29 | cr2 | they didn't pick it from /dev/urandom |
| 00:12.54 | BabelO | :) |
| 00:13.11 | cr2 | BabelO: i'm wondering why ba does not do ramboot. at least for me. |
| 00:13.13 | BabelO | there is a random generator in omap :) |
| 00:13.56 | cr2 | BabelO: we should create a todo list. |
| 00:14.06 | BabelO | cr2: i need to buy a new phone :) things are going slow now ... |
| 00:14.08 | revertive | BabelO: multi boot works with eol, the only problem is that the keys dont seem to work ;p |
| 00:14.09 | cr2 | ba vpen is somewhere at the top :) |
| 00:14.41 | cr2 | revertive: which keys ? |
| 00:15.08 | BabelO | revertive: i use gpio keys here not mpuio |
| 00:15.15 | revertive | cr2: keys on wizard/artemis volume keys etc... |
| 00:15.22 | cr2 | ok. |
| 00:16.27 | BabelO | cr2: do you have the battery.dll ? |
| 00:17.00 | BabelO | cr2: and second question, where i can find what i miss for suspend / resume |
| 00:18.36 | cr2 | BabelO: there is no battery.dll |
| 00:20.13 | cr2 | BabelO: i think battdrv.dll uses ipc with the phone |
| 00:20.23 | dcordes | I'm just downloading the qtopia image now.. |
| 00:20.43 | cr2 | ok, good night. |
| 00:20.49 | dcordes | cr2: can I use BabelO's rootfs or do I need to install modules? |
| 00:21.08 | dcordes | ie is blueangel lcd module or built in? |
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| 00:33.39 | dcordes | cr2: booting.. |
| 00:34.01 | dcordes | unable to mount rootfs on unknown block |
| 00:39.30 | dcordes | please append a correct root= option |
| 00:39.45 | dcordes | I specify /dev/mmcblk0p2 where babel0's rootfs is |
| 00:40.43 | dcordes | haret zImage script are on p1 which is fat16, rootfs is on p2 which is ext2 |
| 00:40.47 | dcordes | that always worked |
| 00:41.48 | dcordes | it says mmc0 blablablockize (ro) before |
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| 00:57.46 | dcordes | turns out my taped 2gb sd is only rw in my card reader, not in BA |
| 00:58.16 | dcordes | is there a blueangel rom that supports sd cards > 2gb? |
| 00:58.25 | dcordes | (wince rom) |
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| 01:30.23 | dcordes | cr2: finally managed to suspend |
| 01:30.34 | dcordes | fired up qtopia and did an apm -s |
| 01:30.50 | dcordes | backlight turned off and screen slowly cleared (as before) |
| 01:31.36 | dcordes | then I resumed pressing power and screen turned white slowly also as usual |
| 01:34.30 | dcordes | now when I try to boot I see an evil smily showing up and sound comes outta the speaker it says 'bwahahaha, brick'D!!" |
| 02:02.51 | dcordes | lol with htc-egpio it's possible to remove kaiser SIM while kaiser is on |
| 02:27.25 | BabelO | Kevin3: hi, mainline is now rc3 :) |
| 02:28.00 | BabelO | good night all |
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| 09:24.14 | kiozen | hi danielkbx |
| 09:24.34 | danielkbx | hi |
| 09:24.42 | kiozen | so you made it! |
| 09:24.58 | danielkbx | jap, hard work. |
| 09:25.06 | danielkbx | My first irc session. |
| 09:25.35 | kiozen | yes there has to be a first one sometimes |
| 09:25.59 | kiozen | guess BabelO will show up in 3 or 4 hours |
| 09:26.11 | danielkbx | No I just have to figure out how to get this irc stuff into my jabber account since I just want to have one client. |
| 09:26.19 | danielkbx | I'll be online then. |
| 09:26.49 | danielkbx | So your Landkarte need to run on Linux? |
| 09:27.39 | kiozen | the Garmin version and GT version run on unis, osx and win32 |
| 09:27.59 | kiozen | QLandkarte M is designed for mobile devices |
| 09:28.10 | kiozen | and that is why I hang around here |
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| 09:28.54 | danielkbx | It uses Qtopia, right? |
| 09:29.01 | kiozen | yes |
| 09:29.11 | kiozen | qtopia 4.3 |
| 09:29.21 | danielkbx | Yeah, then you'll nee Linux on the devices. |
| 09:29.41 | kiozen | the target platform for me is a FSC Loox N560 |
| 09:29.57 | kiozen | you don't need linux neccessarily |
| 09:30.09 | kiozen | there is qtopia for wince |
| 09:30.15 | danielkbx | Really? |
| 09:30.16 | kiozen | but haven't tried it sofar |
| 09:30.23 | kiozen | sure |
| 09:30.35 | danielkbx | Oh, that's new to me. |
| 09:30.37 | kiozen | just go over to brisbane and ask the trolls |
| 09:30.37 | danielkbx | Okay. |
| 09:31.02 | danielkbx | The screenshot on the page was taken from a linux-running device, right? |
| 09:31.15 | kiozen | yes no fake :) |
| 09:31.16 | danielkbx | Brisbane ist yet to see, maybe in 2 months. |
| 09:32.07 | kiozen | then you could drop by the qtopia lads |
| 09:32.20 | kiozen | qtopia is developed there |
| 09:32.40 | kiozen | you can announce yourself at #qtoopia |
| 09:32.57 | kiozen | s/#qtoopia/#qtopia/ |
| 09:33.57 | danielkbx | Will there be coffee? |
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| 09:34.15 | kiozen | just coffee or real coffee? |
| 09:35.36 | kiozen | best you ask ljp @ #qtopia, he can tell |
| 09:35.58 | danielkbx | Have to switch to Jabber, give me a sec. |
| 09:36.01 | kiozen | ok, let's wait for BabelO.. |
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| 09:38.45 | holymoly | hi guys |
| 09:41.25 | holymoly | is it possibe to buy one of the htc devices with the foldout keyboards with linux preinstalled on it? |
| 09:41.54 | holymoly | with a somewhat functional device - i understand not everything would be completely supported |
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| 09:45.29 | p3t3r__ | cr2: You were asking some days ago whether Debian armel/Titchy Mobile on HTC Universal has QT4 libs, that's a part of the answer ;) : http://packages.debian.org/de/sid/libs/libqt4-core |
| 09:47.54 | holymoly | is debian what runs on these things? |
| 09:48.35 | p3t3r__ | you can run debian, but you don't have to |
| 09:48.56 | holymoly | sweet |
| 09:49.28 | holymoly | so htc by and large constitutce a genery pda type device, htc just builds them with off the shelf chipsets and parts it looks like? |
| 09:50.01 | p3t3r__ | (at least you can run debian on htc universal easily as there is a rootfs available which makes things a lot easier) |
| 09:50.13 | holymoly | i was just looking at universal |
| 09:50.18 | holymoly | that looks like an amazing device |
| 09:50.28 | p3t3r__ | yes, it's huge ;) |
| 09:50.35 | holymoly | can phone calls be placed via universal reasonably reliably? |
| 09:50.56 | holymoly | i just found out about this project as i'm awaiting the release of the moko |
| 09:51.10 | holymoly | i'm kinda floored what you guys are doing with the htc devices |
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| 09:52.28 | p3t3r__ | that depends which "image" you want to use, there is a QTopia (not Debian) image which works quite well for phoning. Concerning the Debian stuff I use ATM it's like that: You can call people easily, but I had problems to receive calls while the device was suspended |
| 09:52.45 | p3t3r__ | btw: I am no developer, just a user ;) |
| 09:52.57 | holymoly | *nod* totally |
| 09:53.17 | holymoly | i'm like a 5 minute noob at this point in time so everyone constitutes as the community :) |
| 09:53.18 | holymoly | lol |
| 09:53.30 | holymoly | p3t3r__: you run debian on your universal? |
| 09:53.35 | p3t3r__ | yes |
| 09:54.12 | p3t3r__ | it's nice to call someone without a graphical interface |
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| 09:54.14 | holymoly | neat, how do you find it? |
| 09:55.16 | holymoly | is there a gui of any kind availabe for debian that allows calling? |
| 09:55.34 | holymoly | i guess one can setup e17 and pull some of the moko stuff if one wanted to right? |
| 09:55.38 | p3t3r__ | it's good, but of course there are still some things that could be better, e.g. afaik there is no x-Gui to call someone yet; there is a whiptail GUI which is usable |
| 09:56.02 | p3t3r__ | holymoly: yes, i am pretty sure that would work |
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| 09:56.19 | p3t3r__ | but it might be a little bit difficult |
| 09:56.34 | holymoly | oh yeah *nod* just curious |
| 09:56.43 | holymoly | might it be possible to buy a universal with debian preinstalled? |
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| 09:56.55 | holymoly | is anyone in the community kinda doing something like it? |
| 09:57.00 | holymoly | i'd buy one just to mess around |
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| 09:57.08 | p3t3r__1 | there are no openmoko packages in debian |
| 09:57.33 | Marex | bad debian ;) |
| 09:57.56 | holymoly | ubuntu seems to have som elibs |
| 09:58.00 | p3t3r_1 | Marex: ;) |
| 09:58.15 | holymoly | even a python moko binding |
| 09:58.16 | holymoly | heh |
| 09:58.26 | p3t3r_1 | holymoly: ubuntu ARMEL or i386 |
| 09:58.33 | Marex | yea, ubuntu is the best |
| 09:58.51 | Marex | I hope you get Im ironic the most I can be ... |
| 09:58.58 | holymoly | so i guess no one kinda sells these with debian preinstalled? |
| 09:59.14 | p3t3r_1 | you're right |
| 09:59.15 | holymoly | kinda read to go for mucking about |
| 09:59.16 | Marex | holymoly, sells what ? |
| 09:59.19 | holymoly | danke. |
| 09:59.26 | holymoly | Marex: htc universal |
| 09:59.43 | holymoly | i'd like one with debian preinstalled and wince wiped. i don't wanna muck too much with the installation part |
| 09:59.43 | p3t3r_1 | but as you start linux with haret, you _need_ WM |
| 09:59.47 | Pablo | hi every one. i have problem with magician and Angstrom-openmoko-devel-image-glibc-ipk-2008.1-test-20071028-magician.rootfs.tar.bz2 - when i'm trying to run it with haret-0.5.0, the screen goes white after "jumping to kernel" |
| 10:00.01 | p3t3r_1 | holymoly: installation is easy |
| 10:00.15 | Pablo | but if i do the same think with Angstrom-gpe-image-test-20070111-magician.rootfs.tar.bz2 it's working well :( |
| 10:00.42 | Marex | holymoly, poor you, you'll have to reinstall yourself |
| 10:01.19 | exco | Hi Pablo |
| 10:01.28 | holymoly | oh okay i don't haveto compile a kernel okay that isn't too bad actually |
| 10:01.30 | holymoly | you are right |
| 10:01.34 | holymoly | okay time to find one of these |
| 10:01.41 | Pablo | hihi |
| 10:01.44 | Pablo | hi:) |
| 10:02.29 | exco | where did you get the images you're talking about, Pablo |
| 10:02.57 | Pablo | http://www.linuxtogo.org/~ph5/magician/ |
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| 10:03.19 | Pablo | from here i took Angstrom-openmoko |
| 10:03.26 | exco | the 2008.1 should definitely be "working" |
| 10:03.32 | mistadman | Hello! |
| 10:03.38 | p3t3r_1 | holymoly: compiling E17 will be much harder, as it isn't in debian repos (but it won't be too hard) |
| 10:04.06 | holymoly | right |
| 10:04.24 | holymoly | okay do i haveto watch for any particular versions of universal to be compatible with the images available? |
| 10:04.34 | holymoly | chipset wise and so forth? |
| 10:04.39 | holymoly | http://cgi.ebay.com/i-Mate-JASJAR-3G-WiFi-Pocket-PC-Phone-HTC-Universal_W0QQitemZ320252711044QQihZ011QQcategoryZ38331QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
| 10:04.43 | holymoly | that one looks old |
| 10:05.54 | exco | Pablo: if you follow the readme it should work (at least on my Magician it does) |
| 10:06.35 | Pablo | ok |
| 10:06.41 | exco | you can even use the latest kernel (which improves gui responsiveness afaict) |
| 10:06.43 | Pablo | i will try again |
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| 10:07.35 | exco | fyi, Pablo: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/autobuild/magician/ |
| 10:07.57 | Pablo | thanks :) |
| 10:08.01 | holymoly | man oh man |
| 10:08.10 | holymoly | this htc universal could be a frontend/controller for mythtv |
| 10:08.13 | Pablo | and which image i should try?? |
| 10:08.14 | holymoly | *blink* |
| 10:08.20 | holymoly | i think i just fused a few neurons |
| 10:08.31 | exco | If you want I can send you an working image of a 256MB SD-card, once I get home |
| 10:09.31 | exco | I would use the one from the link you provided and see how it goes :-) |
| 10:09.34 | holymoly | lol |
| 10:09.39 | holymoly | universal is a little on the big side |
| 10:09.40 | holymoly | haha |
| 10:09.48 | holymoly | i have a umpc by fujitsue |
| 10:09.51 | holymoly | its not that much larger |
| 10:09.55 | holymoly | maybe twice the size |
| 10:09.56 | holymoly | interesting |
| 10:10.28 | p3t3r_1 | holymoly: there are different versions of htc universal, but it shouldn't matter |
| 10:10.29 | Pablo | as i wrote with Angstrom-gpe-image-test-20070111-magician.rootfs.tar.bz2 it's working wel |
| 10:10.56 | holymoly | p3t3r_1 how do i know which one is the newest model? is there a model no. refernce somewhere? |
| 10:12.12 | Pablo | i tried again and now with the openmoko image it's hangs after "Openmoko" loading screen and displays "toppoly LCD power off egpio set: reg 0 = 0x64" |
| 10:13.31 | exco | Pablo: are you sure you're doing everything right? |
| 10:13.40 | p3t3r_1 | holymoly: no, there are just minor differences, doesn't matter. if you just want to have a look at it, get a cheap used one |
| 10:13.58 | holymoly | sweet |
| 10:14.06 | holymoly | p3t3r_1: thanks very much for answering my questions |
| 10:14.09 | holymoly | greatly appreciate it |
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| 10:15.28 | Pablo | i am copyting haret, zImage and default.txt to first partition os my sd card ( FAT) and i extract Angstrom-openmok on the second partition on my card ( ext3) - i tried with ext2 but the same problem:( |
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| 10:15.56 | exco | sounds good to me |
| 10:17.25 | Pablo | i will try with the zImage from link which you gived |
| 10:17.31 | exco | I had the same problem (toppoly..) once, but I can't remember what the problem was |
| 10:17.57 | exco | make sure you also extract the corresponding modules to your ext partition |
| 10:18.30 | holymoly | as a sdie note |
| 10:18.38 | holymoly | i wonder if the guts of the moko would fit into this case |
| 10:18.39 | holymoly | heh |
| 10:19.40 | Pablo | on README there wasn't any information that ia must extract also modules:( |
| 10:19.48 | Pablo | thanks i will try now:) |
| 10:20.41 | exco | if you use a different kernel than the one(s) provided with the image you have to make sure you also have the right modules |
| 10:21.10 | holymoly | p3t3r_1: did you keep your wince stuff or ditch it? |
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| 10:33.05 | holymoly | which one one of the devices on http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HTC_2dPhones are a TYTAN II device? |
| 10:33.08 | holymoly | just curious |
| 10:36.02 | holymoly | heh must be titan |
| 10:36.04 | holymoly | duh |
| 10:36.05 | holymoly | k |
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| 12:36.40 | cr2 | lol |
| 12:36.56 | cr2 | holymoly: TYTAN II is kaiser :) |
| 12:37.50 | kiozen | hi cr2 |
| 12:38.59 | kiozen | cr2: got 5 min ? |
| 12:42.14 | lama | am I right that kaiser uses similar gfx chipset that touch diamond? |
| 12:46.29 | cr2 | lama: no. |
| 12:46.35 | cr2 | kiozen: hmm. wait 5 min |
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| 12:51.27 | mistadman | Hey cr2 |
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| 13:04.42 | mistadman | hey cr2, have you tried hacking the W2884 yet? |
| 13:04.58 | mistadman | Can you give me some insight on this chip? |
| 13:05.18 | mistadman | I have already read: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=ATIWxxxx |
| 13:06.07 | cr2 | mistadman: i have some handwritten notes only |
| 13:06.13 | cr2 | kiozen: i'm back |
| 13:06.15 | mistadman | btw, how accurate is that info? Do you have any idea? |
| 13:06.38 | kiozen | cr2: I am thinking about what data to store in a track log |
| 13:07.08 | kiozen | cr2: it should be enought to get all parameters from it |
| 13:07.22 | cr2 | kiozen: nmea/full_gpx ? |
| 13:07.34 | kiozen | cr2: it should be common to different protocol :) |
| 13:07.52 | cr2 | mistadman: it's inaccurate in some places, because the "known" register list comes from w100 |
| 13:07.53 | kiozen | cr2: it's for recording |
| 13:07.58 | mistadman | I have used some of the code from the W100, they are very simular |
| 13:08.01 | mistadman | Ahhh! |
| 13:08.36 | mistadman | That explains why when I write to reg, I do not get the disired resaults |
| 13:08.36 | cr2 | kiozen: usually you have some nmea subset only |
| 13:09.10 | kiozen | cr2: I would say time, lon, lat, alt, error as a start |
| 13:09.22 | mistadman | cr2: In part due to your help, I got the Athena boot Android! |
| 13:09.25 | cr2 | mistadman: why is it a problem for you ? you don't need to change anything there unless you want to resume the device. |
| 13:09.47 | mistadman | Well, I am hacking the touch screen... |
| 13:09.50 | kiozen | cr2: I can do it kind of appendable, but I want start with a good subset right from the beginning |
| 13:10.06 | kiozen | cr2: what would you need if recording a track= |
| 13:10.09 | cr2 | kiozen: the timestamp. that's what ozi .plt does. |
| 13:10.22 | mistadman | It is working flawless, except for the fact the Android thinks its horizantal and not vertical |
| 13:10.39 | kiozen | cr2: yes : time, lon, lat, alt, error |
| 13:10.42 | cr2 | kiozen: lol. i'd switch it in sirf binary mode and write the RINEX-style stuff :) |
| 13:11.36 | cr2 | kiozen: "error" is mostly useless (imho) for any serious application |
| 13:11.44 | kiozen | cr2: well, we can do it device dependent |
| 13:11.52 | kiozen | cr2: never sure about the error |
| 13:12.03 | cr2 | kiozen: because you can calculate it from the lat/long and the ephemeris |
| 13:12.23 | cr2 | mistadman: use the kernel framebuffer rotation. |
| 13:12.37 | kiozen | cr2: ok, that the kind of stuff I want to know :) |
| 13:12.54 | cr2 | kiozen: it's fun to have, but it has close to zero scientific value |
| 13:13.01 | mistadman | cr2: That was my plan, if I couldn't get any where with the ATI chip's regs. |
| 13:13.28 | kiozen | cr2: I always thought about drawing a track with an error corridor |
| 13:14.02 | mistadman | Seemed so much easier using hardware regs when you look at: http://www.mnementh.co.uk/eseries/docs/imageon/ |
| 13:14.15 | kiozen | cr2: not that it really would change the result, but a semitransparent corridor is cool :) |
| 13:14.35 | mistadman | and here: http://www.mnementh.co.uk/eseries/docs/imageon/lcd_rotate.html |
| 13:15.39 | mistadman | cr2: whats involved with rotating the frame buffer? I was trying to look for existing examples, but they all seemed to use hardware rotation... |
| 13:16.12 | mistadman | Does the omapfb employ software rotation? |
| 13:17.41 | kiozen | cr2: that RINEX stuff looks complicated |
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| 13:19.24 | kiozen | hi BabelO, you have got a new fan :) |
| 13:21.37 | mistadman | cr2: What is involved with rotating the framebuffer? |
| 13:22.07 | danielkbx | I think that was the moment I was supposed to say hello to BabelO. |
| 13:22.12 | danielkbx | Sorry, I missed it. |
| 13:22.19 | danielkbx | Hi BabelO. |
| 13:22.47 | BabelO | hi |
| 13:22.59 | BabelO | hello danielkbx |
| 13:23.23 | danielkbx | I saw one of kiozen's pictures of a HTC Artemis running his software. |
| 13:23.26 | BabelO | hi kiozen |
| 13:23.31 | kiozen | BabelO: your phone is famous! I told you :) |
| 13:23.41 | BabelO | danielkbx: you have an artemis ? |
| 13:23.48 | lama | http://www.reuters.com/article/technologyNews/idUSL207696020080520 |
| 13:23.48 | danielkbx | I do. |
| 13:24.00 | danielkbx | I was wondering if it is a linux running on the device. |
| 13:24.00 | BabelO | :) |
| 13:24.20 | BabelO | danielkbx: there is now :) |
| 13:24.52 | danielkbx | Give me details, that's quite interesting :-). |
| 13:25.33 | BabelO | danielkbx: i need to package it like i ve done for blueangel, gps and basic stuff are running on linux |
| 13:25.41 | danielkbx | Really? |
| 13:25.54 | danielkbx | Sound extremly great. |
| 13:25.59 | BabelO | danielkbx: http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/Artemis |
| 13:26.14 | BabelO | danielkbx: and you can see kiozen picture on website (not a fake ) :) |
| 13:27.03 | cr2 | kiozen: it was a joke about RINEX |
| 13:27.31 | cr2 | mistadman: it's some parameter on the kernel command line, i don't rememeber |
| 13:27.32 | kiozen | wonders why I printed 20 pages of specification |
| 13:27.57 | danielkbx | The site says, the phone does not work so far. |
| 13:28.07 | cr2 | kiozen: there was some hack for writing RINEX out of the garmin binary data |
| 13:28.30 | kiozen | cr2: you still have it? |
| 13:29.11 | cr2 | mistadman: wince does not do hardware rotation on athena |
| 13:29.16 | cr2 | kiozen: looking for it. |
| 13:30.05 | BabelO | danielkbx: yes, i did not look at the moment, there is a gsm modules, but does not work |
| 13:30.08 | cr2 | kiozen: it's an old software |
| 13:30.13 | cr2 | kiozen: http://artico.lma.fi.upm.es/numerico/miembros/antonio/async/ |
| 13:30.43 | kiozen | cr2: but that still does not answer my question :/ what data is important to record |
| 13:30.46 | cr2 | kiozen: i wish somebody did it with sirf, but the gpsd people stalled for an unknown reason. |
| 13:31.07 | cr2 | kiozen: x y z t. 4 parameters. |
| 13:31.13 | kiozen | cr2: because gpsd is stall software <evil grin> |
| 13:31.23 | danielkbx | But there is hope. Wonderful. |
| 13:31.28 | cr2 | you can always save them. if you have 3D fix |
| 13:31.54 | cr2 | kiozen: and x y dummy t for 2D fix |
| 13:31.55 | danielkbx | Do you have a link for instruction? I wanna give it a try. |
| 13:32.00 | kiozen | cr2: anything else that would be nice to have? |
| 13:32.01 | BabelO | danielkbx: yes there is hope |
| 13:32.34 | kiozen | BabelO: guess he wants a rootfs from you :) |
| 13:32.59 | cr2 | kiozen: everything else is not really useful. unless you do it professionally with RINEX. and it's not so easy to do right. |
| 13:33.27 | BabelO | kiozen: yes, i m doing it, i use blueangel rootfs :) |
| 13:33.36 | cr2 | kiozen: for RINEX you need the raw data, which you don't have with NMEA anyway. so forget about it. |
| 13:33.39 | kiozen | cr2: ok 4x32bit per point as binary, that sounds pretty compact :) |
| 13:33.57 | cr2 | kiozen: compare with .mps |
| 13:34.14 | kiozen | cr2: think we do a sirfIII driver one day |
| 13:34.33 | kiozen | cr2: need that anyway to switch off static navigation |
| 13:34.42 | cr2 | kiozen: i'm not sure if .mps saves 'z', but may be wrong. check the gpsbabel source. |
| 13:35.21 | cr2 | kiozen: yes, think of the survey plugin. i'll do the math for it, only need a window+simple widgets from you. |
| 13:35.26 | BabelO | danielkbx: are you qt developer ? |
| 13:35.44 | danielkbx | Right, kiozen, a rootfs from BabelO would be a great :-). |
| 13:36.13 | danielkbx | Nope, I am maily OS X and .NET developer. |
| 13:36.15 | kiozen | cr2: no problem with that, just define what you need :) |
| 13:37.14 | mistadman | cr2: I have already implemented fbcon=rotate:3, which works fine. But only rotates the fbconsole :-p |
| 13:38.10 | BabelO | danielkbx: i m doing a quick rootfs for you :) |
| 13:38.31 | dcordes | hi all |
| 13:38.39 | danielkbx | Wonderful. So if you'll need any help with my things, just say it. |
| 13:38.52 | kiozen | BabelO: we should publish more screenshots :) |
| 13:39.28 | BabelO | danielkbx: you have maps for M ? |
| 13:39.46 | danielkbx | I have plenty of web servers for pictures. |
| 13:39.57 | danielkbx | No maps so far. |
| 13:40.00 | kiozen | danielkbx: you need geotiffs |
| 13:40.04 | cr2 | mistadman: it's an android problem then |
| 13:40.06 | dcordes | also looked for a bit to force resolution but found none. In the faq I can only see a windows related answer on the config question |
| 13:40.11 | dcordes | oops |
| 13:40.20 | cr2 | mistadman: because it does not honor the fb orientation. |
| 13:40.27 | dcordes | reading the logs |
| 13:40.41 | kiozen | danielkbx: you can scan paper maps with a grid and reference them |
| 13:40.53 | danielkbx | Okay, I am having a look at the web page. |
| 13:40.55 | BabelO | kiozen: what to you thinnk to put button in right and left border ( half masked ) it look like and elips with onlly + or - for zoom ? |
| 13:40.56 | cr2 | danielkbx: can you compile M for wince using qt4.4 for wince ? that would be fun. |
| 13:41.00 | danielkbx | I have TomTom maps :-D |
| 13:41.04 | dcordes | cr2: did you see the boardid 6 suspend result? |
| 13:41.24 | cr2 | danielkbx: you should use roadmap for vector maps. |
| 13:41.33 | danielkbx | Just kidding :-) |
| 13:42.10 | cr2 | dcordes: yes. but that may be some timing problem with w100, as it is already written in blueangel_lcd.c |
| 13:42.13 | kiozen | BabelO: sounds ok for me, you can just add a new virtual key class |
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| 13:42.38 | kiozen | BabelO: and a detection for low resolution displays, to load it on startup |
| 13:42.41 | BabelO | danielkbx: OXS is linux, right ? |
| 13:42.53 | cr2 | lol |
| 13:42.57 | danielkbx | OS X is Mac :-) |
| 13:42.57 | BabelO | kiozen: ok |
| 13:42.59 | dcordes | cr2: I'm happy it didn't brick and setup a nice angstrom image |
| 13:43.25 | BabelO | danielkbx: yes, but kernel is linux and other is compatible , no ? |
| 13:43.52 | danielkbx | The OS X kernel is remotly a linux kernel. |
| 13:43.59 | BabelO | danielkbx: just want to know about partition ext2/3 |
| 13:44.23 | danielkbx | ext3 sounds good to me. |
| 13:44.32 | danielkbx | Does not depend on OS X. |
| 13:45.11 | danielkbx | cr2, you want to built M with wince? |
| 13:45.25 | danielkbx | Kinda challange? |
| 13:45.29 | kiozen | BabelO: you want to subclass IKeys, and you can use CKeysFourButton as example |
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| 13:46.22 | kiozen | danielkbx: no, he wants to make you built M on wince ;) |
| 13:46.49 | kiozen | just kidding :) |
| 13:46.50 | BabelO | kiozen: ok, but i need gdal for arm, that s my problem |
| 13:46.51 | cr2 | danielkbx: i don't have msvc*, and the evil trolls don't compile qt4.4 with cegcc. |
| 13:46.56 | danielkbx | I know, writing full sentences is quite impossible at the moment :-) |
| 13:47.23 | danielkbx | You want me to talk to them when I am in Brisbane? |
| 13:47.28 | dcordes | BabelO: do you do anything to get sound working on blueangel angstrom? |
| 13:47.44 | kiozen | danielkbx: lol, be happy if you get a coffee |
| 13:48.05 | cr2 | danielkbx: not really, i somehow understand their decision. but it's still nice to have. |
| 13:48.37 | dcordes | BabelO: I have no sound in autobuild image and when I run alsamixer I get an error |
| 13:48.42 | kiozen | BabelO: gdal is still not compiling for you? |
| 13:49.12 | BabelO | kiozen: no, but i just found your gdal's and include files |
| 13:49.30 | kiozen | BabelO: ok, maybe you are luck with that |
| 13:50.02 | kiozen | s/luck/lucky/ |
| 13:51.15 | BabelO | kiozen: i just need to create a .desktop file for M |
| 13:52.19 | kiozen | BabelO: send me a patch if you have done it, it's still missing in the codebase |
| 13:52.49 | BabelO | kiozen: ok |
| 13:52.54 | danielkbx | kiozen, Yeah, real coffee would be great. |
| 13:53.25 | kiozen | danielkbx: I can push you a cup, here :P |
| 13:54.09 | kiozen | danielkbx: but I would exchange a coffee for Perth |
| 13:55.24 | danielkbx | You're right, Perth is worth it. |
| 13:55.50 | kiozen | danielkbx: you work or study there? |
| 13:56.23 | BabelO | danielkbx: ok making a simple installer :) and you can test :) |
| 13:56.43 | BabelO | danielkbx: osX support usbnet connection ? |
| 13:57.31 | danielkbx | I am working here, great country. |
| 13:57.38 | danielkbx | babelo, I guess, not sure. |
| 13:59.28 | BabelO | danielkbx: it is midnight for you :) |
| 13:59.51 | danielkbx | Don't forget the daylight saving. It is 10 pm. |
| 14:00.06 | danielkbx | But in general, you're right. |
| 14:00.13 | BabelO | oh :( i m not up to date |
| 14:00.48 | BabelO | hum linux don't let me do that :( |
| 14:01.10 | danielkbx | Bad bad linux :-) |
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| 14:01.51 | danielkbx | What is the general way to boot it. I thought about preparing the SD card and using haret. Am i right? |
| 14:02.09 | kiozen | danielkbx: yup |
| 14:02.16 | BabelO | danielkbx: i create an installer, so you just put two file on top of your sdcard then start exe file |
| 14:02.43 | danielkbx | Sounds great. |
| 14:02.48 | cr2 | danielkbx: linload.exe target in haret Makefile |
| 14:07.09 | danielkbx | Any way to say thank you? |
| 14:07.36 | kiozen | ten barrels of pastice |
| 14:07.47 | danielkbx | Pastice? What's that? |
| 14:08.04 | kiozen | maybe a type... wait |
| 14:08.36 | kiozen | http://www.foodreference.com/html/artpastis.html |
| 14:08.38 | kiozen | typo |
| 14:09.42 | danielkbx | Ahhh. |
| 14:09.57 | BabelO | kiozen: Pastir or Ricard, that's the question :) |
| 14:10.20 | kiozen | BabelO: lol, choices, choices |
| 14:10.50 | danielkbx | Tu dors savoir, ce que tu veux boire. |
| 14:11.25 | danielkbx | Hmâ¦looks strange. |
| 14:11.41 | BabelO | danielkbx: uploading image :) |
| 14:11.49 | danielkbx | Yeah. |
| 14:13.03 | BabelO | i just need to make a test here :) |
| 14:14.50 | kiozen | danielkbx: did you try to compile QLandkarte GT for OSX? |
| 14:18.41 | danielkbx | Not yet, but I can. |
| 14:19.08 | kiozen | danielkbx: taht would help you to refrence the scanned maps |
| 14:19.17 | danielkbx | Okay. |
| 14:19.21 | danielkbx | What do I need? |
| 14:19.35 | kiozen | danielkbx: you need gdal and proj4 for osx, too |
| 14:19.49 | kiozen | danielkbx: and Qt of course |
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| 14:20.04 | kiozen | danielkbx: no clue if there is gcc for osx |
| 14:20.15 | danielkbx | It is. |
| 14:20.32 | kiozen | danielkbx: and cmake |
| 14:20.46 | dcordes | BabelO: do you know this error in angstrom image on blueangel? "alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device" |
| 14:20.46 | danielkbx | The whole gcc suite. |
| 14:21.41 | kiozen | dcordes: I had that, had to patch qtopia to shut up |
| 14:22.14 | BabelO | dcordes: no |
| 14:22.33 | danielkbx | Do I need the Qt sources? |
| 14:22.54 | kiozen | danielkbx: headers and libs shoud be fine |
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| 14:23.36 | kiozen | danielkbx: but most likely you have to complie your own |
| 14:23.49 | lama | http://www.tranquilpc-shop.co.uk/acatalog/Motherboards.html |
| 14:25.03 | BabelO | danielkbx: you can start downloading http://linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcartemis/qtopia/QtopiaPhone-artemis-image.rootfs.tar.bz2 |
| 14:25.07 | danielkbx | Okay, I'll see. |
| 14:25.34 | danielkbx | I am downloading. Exciting. |
| 14:26.42 | BabelO | danielkbx: it is not a clean image, i have to remove bluenagel modules, but i hope at end we have common image |
| 14:27.15 | dcordes | kiozen: hm the problem is, I don't want it to shut up but to say something :) |
| 14:28.28 | kiozen | dcordes: the problem is that the sound dev seems to miss or the dev node has a different name. |
| 14:28.46 | dcordes | kiozen: do you recall what you linked where? |
| 14:29.25 | kiozen | dcordes: no, the n560 had no sound anyway when I did this, and the error stoped me from starting qtopia |
| 14:29.55 | kiozen | dcordes: guess you have to get alsa running first |
| 14:34.15 | dcordes | kiozen: no clue how I'd do that |
| 14:34.20 | cr2 | kiozen: i'll check BT and will move to the sound. |
| 14:35.21 | kiozen | dcordes: I would start to log into the device and try to start the alsa script in /etc/init.d manually to see what is happening |
| 14:35.29 | kiozen | cr2: ok |
| 14:36.08 | dcordes | /usr/sbin/alsactl: load_state:1327: No soundcards found... |
| 14:36.43 | kiozen | dcordes: maybe the kernel has no sound support? |
| 14:37.15 | kiozen | cr2 or BabelO should know better :) |
| 14:37.55 | BabelO | dcordes: you miss the module i think |
| 14:39.42 | dcordes | BabelO: I have several soc-bla |
| 14:40.57 | danielkbx | If I have M working I will write a small tutorial for you, kiozen. |
| 14:41.06 | danielkbx | It's not that simple- |
| 14:41.07 | dcordes | oh looks like only the acx module is active |
| 14:41.37 | BabelO | danielkbx: did you download the file ? |
| 14:41.46 | danielkbx | Nearly finished. |
| 14:41.53 | danielkbx | 10 MBs left. |
| 14:41.54 | kiozen | danielkbx: starting linux or using M? |
| 14:42.06 | danielkbx | Compiling M on OS X. |
| 14:42.15 | danielkbx | Maybe we can make a DMG. |
| 14:42.27 | kiozen | danielkbx: Compiling GT on OS X |
| 14:42.34 | danielkbx | Yeah, sorry. |
| 14:42.34 | BabelO | danielkbx: ok, i ve a problem with linload, so better if you can create ext3 partition, aqround 200 Mb on sdcard with gparted or equivalent |
| 14:42.36 | kiozen | M is for mobile devices only |
| 14:42.53 | kiozen | danielkbx: a binary for OS X would be greate! |
| 14:42.58 | danielkbx | Okay, I'll try this. |
| 14:43.40 | danielkbx | Do I have to copy the content into that partition or must it be "dd"? |
| 14:43.46 | kiozen | danielkbx: there is another child of mine, QLandkarte for Garmin devices, that needs a binary package maintainer :) |
| 14:43.54 | dcordes | kiozen: BabelO works when I load some modules in drivers/sound manually. why don't they start automagically? I installed them with make modules_install |
| 14:44.18 | danielkbx | Kiozen, sounds not bad. |
| 14:44.44 | danielkbx | Let me play a bit and then we'll do all that negotiaten stuff :-) |
| 14:44.59 | BabelO | danielkbx: once partition is done, just tar xvjf QtopiaPhone...... on top of partition |
| 14:45.17 | BabelO | dcordes: what angstrom image ? |
| 14:45.19 | danielkbx | Okay. |
| 14:45.31 | dcordes | BabelO: 2007.12 autobuilder |
| 14:45.43 | dcordes | I enjoy gpe more ;) |
| 14:46.00 | BabelO | dcordes: that s why, if not mine, you have to create etc/modutils entry for modules you want to load at boot time |
| 14:46.07 | dcordes | BabelO: this one http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/autobuild/htcblueangel/Angstrom-x11-image-glibc-ipk-2007.12-r14-htcblueangel.rootfs.tar.gz |
| 14:46.18 | danielkbx | Download finished, BabelO |
| 14:46.19 | dcordes | BabelO: ok thanks |
| 14:46.21 | BabelO | cr2: mmcblk0 is not created with omap, why ? |
| 14:46.25 | kiozen | danielkbx: sure, no constraints, just if you are bored :) |
| 14:46.50 | BabelO | cr2: maybe udev module ? |
| 14:46.52 | dcordes | BabelO: is there one ba sound module that loads all the needed sound dependencies? |
| 14:47.39 | BabelO | dcordes: look at my images, i don't remember |
| 14:48.40 | dcordes | snd-mixer-oss snd-pcm-oss |
| 14:54.10 | dcordes | I wonder if not openmoko would be the best distro for blueangel since both, the moko and the ba have the ti calypso modem |
| 14:54.20 | dcordes | one could use the whole phone stuff as is from moko |
| 14:56.03 | BabelO | danielkbx: i think installer should be ok now |
| 14:57.50 | danielkbx | Sounds goot. |
| 14:58.01 | danielkbx | I cannot create ext2/3 partitions with OS X. |
| 14:58.46 | kiozen | bad bad OSX :P |
| 14:58.50 | danielkbx | :-D |
| 14:59.00 | BabelO | danielkbx: ok, so wait few minutes more :) |
| 14:59.09 | danielkbx | I am waiting and thankful. |
| 14:59.30 | BabelO | danielkbx: write a .NET program to create linux partition :) |
| 14:59.40 | kiozen | lol |
| 14:59.48 | kiozen | ok, got to go, bbl |
| 14:59.49 | danielkbx | Okay, that we can create ext3 on Windows. |
| 14:59.54 | danielkbx | Bye. |
| 15:00.12 | danielkbx | However, your idea is not that bad. |
| 15:00.14 | kiozen | create ext3 on windows would help a lot |
| 15:00.42 | danielkbx | Is there no tool? |
| 15:00.52 | danielkbx | Cygwin? |
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| 15:06.54 | BabelO | roh i ve a big problem, i use root.cgz from Kevin3, i unpack it to add two lines and repack it, but size is not same ??????? |
| 15:07.43 | dcordes | dzo: hi, any progress with vogue? |
| 15:09.36 | BabelO | cr2: are you cpio expert ? :) |
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| 15:09.50 | dcordes | BabelO: I am |
| 15:09.59 | danielkbx | Sorry, I crashed the system. |
| 15:10.11 | BabelO | dcordes: extract cpio archive and keep symlink ? |
| 15:10.53 | dcordes | BabelO: I use "find ./ | cpio -H newc -o | gzip > ../initrd.cpio.gz" inside rootfs folder to make cpio.gz as root |
| 15:11.24 | BabelO | dcordes: to extract and keep syumlink ? |
| 15:11.53 | dcordes | and I use "gunzip2 rootfs.cpio.gz && cpio -i < rootfs.cpio" as root to extract |
| 15:12.32 | dcordes | s/gunzip2/gunzip/ |
| 15:12.46 | BabelO | not that |
| 15:12.53 | dcordes | it should keep symlinks because it always works. |
| 15:13.10 | danielkbx | Sorry BabalO, did you post the linkt to linload.exe already? |
| 15:13.25 | BabelO | danielkbx: no, small problem :) |
| 15:13.41 | dcordes | BabelO: how did you extract? |
| 15:13.49 | dcordes | cpio -i always works-for-me |
| 15:13.49 | danielkbx | :-) |
| 15:19.32 | BabelO | danielkbx: uploading .exe file and testing |
| 15:19.44 | danielkbx | Great. |
| 15:19.55 | dcordes | BabelO: did it work? |
| 15:20.06 | BabelO | dcordes: yes, with you r compress line |
| 15:20.25 | dcordes | ok good |
| 15:20.37 | dcordes | I need this often for kaiser ramdisk boot |
| 15:20.47 | dcordes | artemis is also ramdisk only at the moment? |
| 15:20.57 | BabelO | dcordes: no |
| 15:27.04 | BabelO | danielkbx: http://linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcartemis/qtopia/Qtopia-Linux-htcartemis.exe |
| 15:27.49 | danielkbx | Downloading |
| 15:29.02 | danielkbx | Okay, I'll try. |
| 15:30.08 | BabelO | danielkbx: copy this one and the previous on top of your sdcard |
| 15:30.18 | BabelO | danielkbx: just hope you have 200Mb free :) |
| 15:30.35 | BabelO | danielkbx: tomtom take 1.2Gb here :) |
| 15:33.38 | BabelO | danielkbx: i just hope you have same lcd panel than me :) |
| 15:33.54 | BabelO | danielkbx: is it htc p3300 too ? or another naming ? |
| 15:39.04 | danielkbx | Looks good. |
| 15:39.13 | danielkbx | It is called o2 orbit. |
| 15:39.34 | danielkbx | Is my spare card, so there os enough space. |
| 15:39.42 | danielkbx | Still creating rootfs. |
| 15:39.50 | danielkbx | But I am already impressed. |
| 15:40.13 | danielkbx | Thank you so much. |
| 15:40.17 | BabelO | humm |
| 15:40.25 | BabelO | should not boot to qtopia :( |
| 15:40.29 | BabelO | i miss something |
| 15:41.41 | danielkbx | Jap, segmentation fault. |
| 15:42.05 | BabelO | danielkbx: yep :) i try to correct it it is just .exe to change |
| 15:42.06 | danielkbx | However, the kernel boots. |
| 15:42.25 | danielkbx | Okay, I will be back in some minutes. |
| 15:42.31 | danielkbx | Great work, mate. |
| 15:45.19 | BabelO | ok |
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| 15:56.15 | BabelO | danielkbx: are you able to mount the .img image ? |
| 16:06.22 | cr2 | BabelO: did i tell you that suse10.3 sucks ? |
| 16:06.43 | cr2 | kioslave: ####### CRASH ###### protocol = kio_bluetooth pid = 1009 signal = 6 |
| 16:06.57 | cr2 | on inserting the usb bt. |
| 16:07.04 | cr2 | it was working in 10.1 |
| 16:07.43 | BabelO | cr2: works for me but i change the kernel |
| 16:08.15 | danielkbx | So, back again. |
| 16:08.26 | danielkbx | To mount which image? |
| 16:08.40 | BabelO | danielkbx: on your sdcard you have a .img now |
| 16:08.54 | danielkbx | How do test this? |
| 16:08.56 | BabelO | cr2: mmcblk0 has not same major / minor than pax devices ..... |
| 16:10.07 | BabelO | danielkbx: mount -o loop ....img /mnt |
| 16:10.29 | danielkbx | On the Artemis? |
| 16:11.04 | BabelO | danielkbx: yes, else you have to wait tomorrow until i found the problem :) |
| 16:11.15 | danielkbx | It is booting at the moment. |
| 16:11.24 | danielkbx | Now it tries to start Qtopia. |
| 16:11.33 | kiozen | (or boot linux on th emac) |
| 16:11.42 | BabelO | danielkbx: no, under mac OSX |
| 16:12.19 | danielkbx | I'll try later. Just tell me what to change. |
| 16:12.31 | danielkbx | I cannot mount ext on OSX. |
| 16:12.33 | danielkbx | :-( |
| 16:12.37 | cr2 | kiozen: hehe. can't test the notebook -> n560 link. need to search for bt gps. |
| 16:13.21 | kiozen | cr2: I can send you one if you don't find your's |
| 16:14.31 | danielkbx | I found a tool to mount ext. |
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| 16:16.55 | danielkbx | I think I'll continue tomorrow. Now it is midnight :-). |
| 16:17.01 | danielkbx | Thank you a lot. |
| 16:17.09 | danielkbx | See you tomorrow. |
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| 17:01.39 | BabelO | paulproteus: hi, if i try to fetch from your server, it told me that key have changed |
| 17:01.53 | paulproteus | BabelO, Yes - that was due to the Debian SSL/SSH key vunlerability. |
| 17:01.57 | paulproteus | It totally sucks, I know. |
| 17:02.12 | BabelO | paulproteus: so how i do now :) |
| 17:04.43 | paulproteus | BabelO, ssh-keygen -R git.asheesh.org |
| 17:04.53 | paulproteus | BabelO, That will "R"emove git.asheesh.org's cached host key from your ~/.ssh/known_hosts. |
| 17:04.57 | paulproteus | Then try again. |
| 17:06.04 | BabelO | paulproteus: oh, there is a command line to do that :) i always use vi to delete the key |
| 17:06.15 | BabelO | paulproteus: yes works |
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| 17:06.36 | paulproteus | goxboxlive, anyone else who has problems, feel free to let me know. |
| 17:06.41 | paulproteus | BabelO, Great. (-: |
| 17:08.47 | dcordes | cr2: can you help with kaiser at send fifo? |
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| 17:19.47 | exco | hi paulproteus |
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| 17:19.55 | paulproteus | Hey exco. |
| 17:20.59 | exco | I was busy the last days - but I'll try to recheck the image today and post on the mailinglist and file a bug report |
| 17:22.42 | exco | did you make any progress with the OM image? |
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| 17:46.42 | BabelO | cr2: what is gpio_dir in nk ? 0 mean inputor poutput ? |
| 17:51.10 | dcordes | bbl |
| 18:07.08 | paulproteus | exco, No, I've been busy also. )-: |
| 18:14.04 | BabelO | cr2: oh, now bt works on artemis too :) |
| 18:18.06 | BabelO | cr2: http://pastebin.ca/1025093 first time i see this message |
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| 18:59.38 | pikapika | hi |
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| 19:19.13 | cr2 | BabelO: it's ok. but i doubt that _exactly_ this firmware version is useful for anything. |
| 19:19.29 | cr2 | BabelO: the only useful command there is "switch to 921600" |
| 19:20.25 | cr2 | BabelO: that's why i always say that we need a .bts compiler- |
| 19:22.01 | cr2 | kiozen_: the svn tags are evil :) |
| 19:22.15 | kiozen_ | cr2: are they? |
| 19:23.13 | cr2 | they take a lot of space |
| 19:23.25 | kiozen_ | cr2: doubt it |
| 19:23.49 | cr2 | i've lownloaded 9GB in this was from cegcc svn |
| 19:23.55 | cr2 | s/was/way/ |
| 19:24.21 | cr2 | kiozen_: you want M to control all the n560 hanrdware ? |
| 19:24.56 | kiozen_ | cr2: because you checked out all :) on the server it's just a reference ;) |
| 19:25.20 | kiozen_ | cr2: I want to control as much as posible via qtopia |
| 19:25.48 | cr2 | kiozen_: hm. you will not run with -qws ? |
| 19:25.50 | BabelO | cr2: can you send me back the .bts script i send to you from artemis ? i did not see it in wm6 :( |
| 19:26.22 | cr2 | BabelO: i can send you the full library :) |
| 19:26.32 | kiozen_ | cr2: -qws simply starts a qtopia framework server built-in the app |
| 19:26.42 | cr2 | BabelO: i'd commit the 2 .bts decompilers to xanadux CVS |
| 19:26.50 | kiozen_ | cr2: without -qws this server has to run already |
| 19:27.14 | kiozen_ | cr2: from the hw control point of view there is not much difference |
| 19:27.41 | cr2 | kiozen_: but all these applets et al., are they just independent programs ? |
| 19:28.14 | kiozen_ | cr2: partly |
| 19:28.19 | cr2 | kiozen_: i have no clue, and may run debian+qt4-core on athena or ba. 128MB is enough. |
| 19:28.39 | BabelO | cr thx |
| 19:28.41 | kiozen_ | cr2: they use a common api provided by qtopia |
| 19:29.08 | cr2 | kiozen_: ok, but why is managing the bt on/off for example ? |
| 19:29.10 | BabelO | cr2: parser found here too http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285419&page=2 |
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| 19:29.23 | kiozen_ | cr2: the virtual keybord is a good example |
| 19:29.40 | kiozen_ | I detect if qpe is running |
| 19:30.03 | kiozen_ | if not I register my own keyboard service for text inputs |
| 19:30.20 | kiozen_ | if qpe is runinng I use the one provided by qpe |
| 19:31.00 | cr2 | BabelO: sent |
| 19:31.38 | cr2 | kiozen: ok, but then you need to write several extentions for qtopia |
| 19:32.17 | kiozen | cr2: well afaik I have to append the qtopia stuff a bit |
| 19:32.33 | kiozen | cr2: I need to create a new device |
| 19:32.35 | cr2 | you don't care about BT pcm audio, or the phone support, but shall take care of multiple backlights, leds, bt, gps and wifi |
| 19:33.19 | cr2 | kiozen: yes, you may start from the zaurus code. |
| 19:33.45 | kiozen | cr2: or htcphone, never the less quite a bit work to do :) |
| 19:33.54 | cr2 | but do it in a portable way so these pars may be reused on other phone devices. |
| 19:34.21 | cr2 | i don't think it's so much work. |
| 19:34.37 | cr2 | the controls are buttons and /sys files |
| 19:34.39 | kiozen | cr2: the qtopia framework does not allow more portability than copy-n-paste |
| 19:35.08 | cr2 | yes, then do just as if you've had a phone on n560 :) |
| 19:35.23 | kiozen | cr2: from what I saw in htcphone it's trivial if you know what to do |
| 19:35.35 | kiozen | the hard part is to find out what to do |
| 19:35.39 | cr2 | yes. |
| 19:35.48 | kiozen | qtopia docs isn't as nice as qt |
| 19:35.59 | cr2 | and to have respective controls in /sys and as buttons/keys/switches |
| 19:37.05 | kiozen | yes it's finding out how qtopia likes to have it and then mapping the resources to that scheme |
| 19:37.35 | kiozen | and if qtopia is too dorky I do it my own way :/ |
| 19:37.54 | kiozen | as I have done with the virtual keys |
| 19:39.22 | cr2 | lol |
| 19:39.31 | cr2 | qtopia should deal with bt. |
| 19:39.54 | cr2 | but it has obscure wifi handling, and no gps controls at all. |
| 19:40.04 | cr2 | you may clone BT handler here. |
| 19:42.46 | kiozen | cr2: http://wiki.trekbuddy.net/index.php/Main_Page |
| 19:42.52 | kiozen | you know this one? |
| 19:44.50 | BabelO | cr2: what is the one for artemis :) |
| 19:45.59 | cr2 | BabelO: got the .bts collection ? |
| 19:46.25 | BabelO | cr2: yes :) |
| 19:46.58 | BabelO | cr2: i see one from me, but don't remember if it is from bluenagel |
| 19:47.32 | cr2 | i think so |
| 19:47.54 | cr2 | kiozen: looks familiar :) |
| 19:48.25 | cr2 | kiozen: but have _much_ better screens |
| 19:48.51 | cr2 | BabelO: hm. i forgot to send the decompiler. |
| 19:50.17 | cr2 | BabelO: sent |
| 19:50.38 | BabelO | cr2: i see , thanks |
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| 19:59.05 | kiozen | cr2: screen? |
| 20:00.45 | BabelO | kiozen: danielkbx should be happy tomorrow :) |
| 20:01.17 | kiozen | BabelO: he still misses maps |
| 20:01.24 | cr2 | kiozen: yes, the cursor |
| 20:01.43 | kiozen | cr2: ???? |
| 20:01.52 | kiozen | don't get you |
| 20:02.39 | cr2 | kiozen: he can fetch them from some not evil^H^H^H^HH^H^H company :) |
| 20:02.57 | cr2 | kiozen: the ring cursor looks like M |
| 20:03.17 | kiozen | cr2: well it's common to all these apps |
| 20:03.32 | kiozen | cr2: for australia? |
| 20:04.44 | BabelO | cr2: 0x08000000 wifi related :) |
| 20:05.39 | cr2 | BabelO: mmutrace ? |
| 20:06.06 | BabelO | cr2: pd trace, i ll try mmutrace now |
| 20:07.01 | cr2 | ok. |
| 20:07.13 | cr2 | BabelO: you have used the acx100 offsets ? |
| 20:07.24 | BabelO | cr2: irq GIRQ5: IS128(224)=1 |
| 20:07.37 | cr2 | this can be checked |
| 20:07.46 | BabelO | cr2: no mmutraces , which offset ? |
| 20:08.19 | cr2 | BabelO: btw, it may be that after applying power an a sdio kick it will just work |
| 20:08.59 | cr2 | mmaped acx100 uses 2 registers to control the chip. |
| 20:09.02 | BabelO | cr2: you think sdio too ... i look at sdio_uart driver, look like pcmcia |
| 20:09.11 | cr2 | they were traceable on the universal. |
| 20:09.40 | cr2 | yes, but the sdio func offsets are different. but afair are documented. |
| 20:09.51 | cr2 | and we have a lot of data to fill the holes. |
| 20:10.18 | BabelO | kiozen: we need a commmanager like app for qtopia :) |
| 20:11.07 | cr2 | BabelO: by cloning the BT |
| 20:11.34 | cr2 | kiozen: do you have a nice icon for gps control ? |
| 20:11.41 | BabelO | cr2: i prefer the separated power on / off than the open port solution :) |
| 20:12.24 | kiozen | cr2: hm, I always 'steal' the icons form nuvola icon them, and afaik there is no nice satelit icon |
| 20:12.56 | cr2 | ms gps icon is ugly. |
| 20:13.15 | kiozen | maybe oxigen icon theme, it's newer |
| 20:13.22 | cr2 | a780 ? |
| 20:13.49 | cr2 | it's a 45° slanted parabolic antenna on a triangle. |
| 20:14.54 | kiozen | we should kidnap an artist, hide him in the cellar and make him draw icons for us |
| 20:15.47 | kiozen | cr2: http://qlandkarte.org/remote.png |
| 20:17.09 | cr2 | lol |
| 20:17.30 | cr2 | kiozen: looks like wifi |
| 20:17.42 | cr2 | local short-range emitter |
| 20:18.09 | kiozen | hm, I know |
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| 20:32.02 | cr2 | kiozen: i've found the bt gps :) |
| 20:33.11 | kiozen | pictures cr2 digging thru piles of hw |
| 20:34.03 | BabelO | cr2: http://git.linuxtogo.org/?p=groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git;a=blob;f=drivers/net/wireless/libertas/if_sdio.c;h=51f664bbee9d281d524f6e4881f98912bd09684d;hb=73aaad6d06b4d9e6707693e201e7eb3847c506cc |
| 20:35.36 | BabelO | cr2: if it is really acx 100 port, i think we can do something for sdio with that :) |
| 20:35.56 | cr2 | kiozen: piles of GPS hw ;) |
| 20:36.26 | cr2 | BabelO: yes, on n560 sdio should work. |
| 20:36.46 | cr2 | BabelO: but i need to port the code to 2.6.26 first. |
| 20:37.11 | cr2 | BabelO: i can even check the sdio gps on n560 :) |
| 20:37.49 | cr2 | kiozen: imagine, the 60CSx on the usb host, sirf3 builtin, sirf3 BT and sirf2 on sdio :) |
| 20:38.15 | kiozen | cr2: differential gps? |
| 20:38.31 | kiozen | or a real squirel killer |
| 20:38.36 | cr2 | no, dgps is different. |
| 20:38.47 | cr2 | squirrel killer :) |
| 20:39.28 | BabelO | cr2: ok i try to copy acx 100 driver from 2.6.21 :) |
| 20:40.41 | cr2 | BabelO: don't forget the wifi power. i think i've listed all gpios. |
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| 20:41.41 | BabelO | cr2: i hope you have done it :) cr2 so gpio 128 is irq accordint to that irq GIRQ5: IS128(224)=1 |
| 20:44.07 | cr2 | ok |
| 20:56.46 | paulproteus | exco, http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-May/017504.html |
| 20:56.58 | paulproteus | I think we're going to want to move to Qtopia (perhaps even Qtopia on X11) for Magician. |
| 20:57.57 | cr2 | BabelO: how to add multiple entries in bash's case ? |
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| 20:58.54 | BabelO | cr2: don't know, nerver used bash :) |
| 20:59.06 | BabelO | cr2: usually i copy script from /etc/init.d :) |
| 21:00.15 | cr2 | which hciattach did you use on arte ? |
| 21:00.44 | cr2 | hciattach /dev/ttyS1 -s 115200 texas ? |
| 21:00.55 | cr2 | Texas module LMP version : 0x02 |
| 21:00.56 | cr2 | Texas module LMP sub-version : 0x0e1b |
| 21:04.45 | BabelO | cr2: i ve used the one from angstrom, but does not work after this message |
| 21:05.17 | cr2 | hm. here too. |
| 21:05.18 | BabelO | cr2: hciattach -S /etc/bluetooth/TI_INIT_;;;;.bts /dev/ttyS0 texas |
| 21:05.33 | cr2 | something is broken. |
| 21:05.39 | BabelO | cr2: only works with hciattach /dev/ttyS0 any 115200 |
| 21:09.21 | cr2 | kiozen_: hciattach: invalid option -- S |
| 21:09.42 | cr2 | kiozen_: your rootfs sucks :) |
| 21:09.49 | kiozen_ | tell oe |
| 21:09.56 | cr2 | hciattach supports -S since 2 years. |
| 21:10.43 | cr2 | kiozen_: the power is applied, the bt onchip fw responds, but the tools are lame. |
| 21:10.47 | kiozen_ | it's just oe compiled last december :) |
| 21:11.08 | cr2 | kiozen_: compile somehting more recent :) |
| 21:11.24 | kiozen_ | cr2: but don't you use rfcomm for bt gps? |
| 21:12.02 | cr2 | kiozen_: i've tested with the goxboxlive image some time ago. |
| 21:12.15 | cr2 | yes, but hciconfig should work first. |
| 21:12.28 | kiozen_ | cr2: think there is not much sense in compiling a new image, send it to you, then fixing bugs, and resend it |
| 21:12.34 | cr2 | i need to see the bt gps with 'hcitool scan' |
| 21:12.38 | cr2 | hmm. |
| 21:13.02 | cr2 | BabelO: is there some BT *.ipk ? |
| 21:13.06 | kiozen_ | that stuff is a bit too fat for my dsl line upstream :) |
| 21:13.15 | BabelO | cr2: bluez-utils |
| 21:13.18 | cr2 | kiozen_: yes, i understand it. |
| 21:13.34 | cr2 | BabelO: link ? |
| 21:13.51 | cr2 | i've not worked on this usespace things for too long :) |
| 21:14.15 | kiozen_ | because compiling oe sucks :) |
| 21:14.39 | kiozen_ | but I am looking forward to it on my new quad core |
| 21:14.48 | cr2 | lol |
| 21:14.57 | BabelO | cr2: opkg update && opkg install bluez-utils |
| 21:15.04 | cr2 | and a quad TB raid ;) |
| 21:15.14 | kiozen_ | with that you get the peculiar error messages faster |
| 21:15.35 | cr2 | BabelO: i need iptables & co for that to relay from usb. |
| 21:15.35 | BabelO | cr2: http dl http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/?name=bluez&arch=&action=search |
| 21:15.42 | cr2 | ok. |
| 21:16.31 | cr2 | Depends: |
| 21:16.31 | cr2 | update-rc.d, libglib-2.0-0 (>= 2.16.1), libc6 (>= 2.6.1), libdbus-1-3 (>= 1.2.1), |
| 21:16.34 | cr2 | wtf ? |
| 21:16.39 | kiozen_ | GT can do now a livelog bread crum trail |
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| 21:18.38 | cr2 | kiozen_: this sux |
| 21:18.41 | cr2 | ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for bluez-utils: |
| 21:18.41 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:18.55 | kiozen_ | oe? |
| 21:19.18 | cr2 | it was really dumb that somebody inbcluded glib dependency here. |
| 21:19.30 | cr2 | nokia & co. suck too ! |
| 21:20.11 | cr2 | ok. somebody should take care about the rootfs. |
| 21:20.35 | kiozen_ | trying to compile bluez-utils for oe |
| 21:20.45 | cr2 | kiozen_: your rootfs is on its way to /dev/null |
| 21:20.56 | cr2 | kiozen_: it doesn't like libc6 |
| 21:23.34 | kiozen_ | distributing linux via compile system sucks, same with gentoo. |
| 21:24.05 | kiozen_ | if you do not update frequently you can't install components on the fly |
| 21:24.17 | cr2 | BabelO: what do you think ? where do we get some stable qtopia ? |
| 21:24.33 | kiozen_ | and it trashed your discspace with loads of temporary files |
| 21:24.44 | cr2 | kiozen_: yeah, if the libc needs a replacement, it's a miserable failure ;) |
| 21:25.29 | kiozen_ | is there a binary distribution? |
| 21:25.45 | kiozen_ | one updated every 2 or three times a year? |
| 21:26.50 | cr2 | are there stable angstrom releases ? |
| 21:27.00 | cr2 | i think yes, but not for out devices. |
| 21:27.02 | BabelO | cr2: i compile qtopia for ba one hour ago :) fresh one |
| 21:27.07 | cr2 | maybe for the universal/magician |
| 21:27.23 | BabelO | cr2: about package i have same problem here, can only build from oe |
| 21:30.25 | cr2 | BabelO: ok, we really need a universal "universal" qtopia image. |
| 21:30.50 | cr2 | kiozen_: i think i've booted off the usb stick on n560 |
| 21:36.48 | kiozen_ | it's pathetic: I want compile bluez-utils and oe compiles the world |
| 21:40.06 | BabelO | cr2: replacement for SA_INTERRUPT IRQF_INTERRUPT ? |
| 21:44.21 | cr2 | BabelO: don't rememebr |
| 21:44.28 | cr2 | kiozen_: http://brilliantcorners.org/node/87-fixing-a-dead-garmin-gpsmap-60csx |
| 21:50.21 | BabelO | cr2: hmm -> acx: eCPU is already running. reset_dev() FAILED |
| 21:50.29 | BabelO | cr2: i already get that in the past :) |
| 21:53.16 | cr2 | hm. |
| 21:53.32 | cr2 | BabelO: you apply the power and do reset ? |
| 21:54.51 | BabelO | cr2: if i do notmistake yes 3_0 and 5_1 powered to 1 then 5_4 to 0 100ms then to 1 |
| 21:57.16 | cr2 | ok. |
| 21:57.36 | cr2 | BabelO: then you need the _sdio init. like _cs init on ba |
| 21:58.26 | BabelO | cr2: but on ba we gat it to pass that before _cs or _sdio |
| 21:59.03 | cr2 | BabelO: ok, it was only a guess |
| 21:59.30 | BabelO | cr2: ok, i ll try to reverse reset :) |
| 21:59.36 | cr2 | unless you trace trace the wifi data there, it's all just a guess |
| 22:05.01 | kiozen_ | cr2: compiled bulez-utils |
| 22:05.58 | kiozen_ | cr2: you need ipks? |
| 22:08.39 | kiozen_ | cr2: you are awake? |
| 22:11.49 | cr2 | kiozen_: yes, i can try |
| 22:13.22 | kiozen_ | cr2: sent |
| 22:14.46 | cr2 | kiozen_: 3.30 is the latest version ? |
| 22:15.19 | kiozen_ | cr2: didn't update oe database, that would have taken ages |
| 22:15.38 | cr2 | ok |
| 22:16.06 | kiozen_ | if it comes to oe you get humble |
| 22:17.52 | kiozen_ | cr2: tomorrow I have to take GT with me in the car for track recording |
| 22:17.52 | cr2 | ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for bluez-utils-compat: |
| 22:17.52 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:18.01 | cr2 | ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for bluez-utils-dbg: |
| 22:18.01 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:18.07 | cr2 | let's hope it's ok |
| 22:18.19 | cr2 | ok |
| 22:18.21 | cr2 | hciattach: option requires an argument -- S |
| 22:19.49 | kiozen_ | cr2: works? |
| 22:20.09 | cr2 | BabelO: yes, -S writes all comments to stdout now |
| 22:20.21 | cr2 | kiozen_: no. something else is missing |
| 22:20.35 | kiozen_ | what? |
| 22:20.35 | BabelO | cr2: never see that before |
| 22:20.38 | cr2 | hciconfig |
| 22:20.39 | cr2 | hci0: Type: UART |
| 22:20.39 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:20.39 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:20.39 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:20.39 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:20.52 | cr2 | BabelO: it was not doing it before. |
| 22:21.18 | cr2 | hehe |
| 22:21.21 | cr2 | stty -F /dev/ttyS1 |
| 22:21.21 | cr2 | speed 0 baud; |
| 22:21.35 | BabelO | cr2: yes same here is i use bts script |
| 22:21.49 | cr2 | busybox is still broken since 2 years ;) |
| 22:22.00 | cr2 | it does not know about 921600 |
| 22:22.42 | cr2 | hciattach /dev/ttyS1 texas 115200 |
| 22:22.42 | cr2 | Texas module LMP version : 0x02 |
| 22:22.42 | cr2 | Texas module LMP sub-version : 0x0e1b |
| 22:22.54 | cr2 | the communication works. |
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| 22:24.19 | cr2 | hm. it seems i need to boot off the usb tomorrow. |
| 22:25.42 | cr2 | weird. |
| 22:26.03 | cr2 | ok. good night. |
| 22:26.22 | kiozen_ | good night |
| 22:26.30 | kiozen_ | leaving too, bbl |
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| 23:31.27 | BabelO | cr2: http://pastebin.ca/1025396 |
| 23:31.57 | BabelO | kiozen an image is available for danielkbx tomorrow at http://linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcartemis/qtopia/ |
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| 23:44.17 | BabelO | Kevin3: around ? |
| 23:59.11 | lama | hello |
| 23:59.22 | mistadman | hello |
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