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01:05.25Kevin3BabelO: Hi..
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01:24.37dcordeshi
01:25.24dcordescr2: http://smancke.blogs.evolvis.org/2008/05/21/cool-neo-running-an-l4-microkernel/ doesn't kaiser's arm9 also base on one of those l4 microkernels?
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06:19.08no2cheminteresting, didn't know much about this channel..
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08:14.05kiozendanielkbx: morning
08:14.15kiozendanielkbx: did you read the logs?
08:14.21kiozendanielkbx: http://irclog.iclem.net/?chan=htc-linux&msgonly=1
08:14.45kiozendanielkbx: BabelO has new binaries for you
08:14.52kiozenbbl
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08:18.29danielkbxHi kiozwn.
08:18.40danielkbxDid not read them til now.
08:18.43danielkbxGood news.
08:19.13danielkbxFound it.
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10:50.23kiozenhi all
10:50.38kiozendanielkbx: dusitwork?
10:51.01BabelOhi :)
10:51.18kiozenhi BabelO
10:54.47danielkbxHi.
10:54.52danielkbxYeah, it works.
10:55.00danielkbxGreat.
10:55.22danielkbxHad a couple of crashes when using some functions but I expected this.
10:55.36BabelOhi danielkbx
10:55.44BabelOdanielkbx:  what function crash ?
10:55.56danielkbxHui, I don't know anymore :-).
10:56.10danielkbxHm…I clicked on a button.
10:56.12danielkbx:-)
10:56.21danielkbxAh, I know.
10:56.28danielkbxI pressed on of the hardware buttons.
10:56.50kiozenthere is a "Don't Panic" button in QLandkarte M :)
10:57.20danielkbxGood idea.
10:57.26kiozendanielkbx: hw button during QLankdarte M?
10:57.33danielkbxI'll try QLandkart later.
10:57.49danielkbxI just tried the qtopia so far. I have a job :-).
10:57.50kiozenwooot you didn't try it first!!! ;)
10:58.05danielkbxI am sorry.
10:58.11kiozen:)))))
10:58.55kiozenalways remember: the universe is orbiting around QLandkarte not vice versa
10:59.44kiozendanielkbx: but you still have to  look for a map
10:59.50BabelOdanielkbx: pressing a button crash, that's strange, i ve tried all button :), i you can reproduce, tell me how
11:00.34danielkbxI have to finish some work here, but than I will find out what I did.
11:00.40danielkbxAnother strange thing.
11:00.50danielkbxI could not set the timezone.
11:01.10danielkbxJust tell me, it is early-beta and I'll be quiet.
11:01.18kiozenthinks live would be so much fun without work
11:01.37danielkbxloves his work.
11:01.45danielkbx:-)
11:01.56kiozenloves work, but loves his toy more
11:02.48danielkbxagrees to kiozen.
11:03.16miknixBabelO, hey
11:03.25BabelOola miknix
11:04.02miknixBabelO, I'm trying your mmc config code on artemis
11:04.17BabelOmiknix: and ?
11:04.32miknixBabelO, on wm5 we also have gpios 141 and 121 enabled
11:04.58miknixBabelO, although I dont notice any change on them when I insert the card
11:05.37cr2hi
11:05.42miknixhi cr2
11:05.45BabelOhi cr2
11:06.00cr2kiozen: where is qlandkarte for arm :)
11:06.06miknixBabelO, http://pastebin.com/d7fcd9342
11:06.41kiozencr2: didn't BabelO create such a monster?
11:07.04BabelOmiknix: possible, because on arte, i can't monitor sd gpio :) can not remove / insert sd :)
11:07.26miknixBabelO, hum.. how did you find the gpios then?
11:07.29cr2i'd like to create a wiki table with hardware features of all our devices, so we will know what to support in qtopia.
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11:08.01cr2kiozen: yes, that was my first question when i've seen qlandkarte. where is the arm version :)
11:08.04BabelOmiknix: did you try that ? omap_writel(omap_readl(0xfffe0834) | 0x1000, 0xfffe0834); it is the mmc clock
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11:08.30miknixBabelO, yeah.. I have that one
11:08.37cr2BabelO: s/0xfffe0834/IO_2_or_whatever/
11:08.39miknixBabelO, but I dont understand the others
11:09.06miknixBabelO, whats ECO spare 1 ?
11:09.15BabelOcr2: clock ... but not documented :) so don't know the name
11:09.16cr2BabelO: a macro will be even better.
11:09.34BabelOcr2: do you see my answer about joke at xda-dev ?
11:09.47cr2BabelO: we name the gpios, even if they are not documented.
11:09.55cr2no :)
11:09.58cr2looking
11:10.44kiozenBabelO: link?
11:11.19BabelOkiozen: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=388809&page=3
11:11.47cr2BabelO: you forgot about the LCD and backlight control.
11:12.20miknixcr2, BabelO PERSEUS_PCC_CONF_REG
11:12.28cr2kiozen: somebody said that linux on kaiser run very well (in the artemis thread)
11:12.28BabelOcr2: minor, nobody see that, btw i ve added it to this qtopia version :)
11:13.32cr2kiozen: "Linux is working fine but not on Artemis, but Kaiser"
11:14.28BabelOcr2: "I wrote an email to one of the developers asking for enlightenment. I'll keep you posted." who is the developper ?
11:14.38kiozenI like the starting question about the table - they do look all the same on these kind of screenshots :)
11:15.18cr2lol
11:16.08cr2i wanted to write something there, because otherwise the people will think linux on artemis is all photoshop.
11:17.02BabelOcr2: and they still think about that :)
11:17.08cr2and it's the only option to tell the people about it, because we don't have a ms-style propaganda machine :)
11:17.15kiozencr2: that would be a hell of a photo job
11:17.49kiozenBabelO: I told you : your phone is famous now
11:18.13kiozenit's amazing what this little picture produced
11:18.24cr2kiozen: there were a lot of fake android screenshots/movies around. it's all about $$
11:19.10BabelOwhen android will be released ?
11:19.20miknixlol
11:19.23miknixphotoshop?
11:19.24kiozen"when it is done"
11:19.47lamaQ3/Q4 2008?
11:19.49cr2kiozen: welcome to the globalized world :) now a lot of people know about M, even if they were not interested about it.
11:20.06BabelOthey are doing like qtopia, they always soon :), but qtopia is working :)
11:20.28kiozencr2:  but can't see svn access rising :(
11:20.48holymolycr2 ... who wrote linux is running fine on kaiser?
11:20.51holymolyi'd love to know more
11:20.52kiozenBabelO: or like Duke Nukem Forever
11:20.53holymolyi wanna get one
11:21.36cr2BabelO: qtopia works since 2.0
11:21.44BabelOkiozen: i ve it running on linux :)
11:21.54miknixBabelO, your mmc gets the clock from uart3?
11:22.05kiozencr2: maybe I should add a donate button to let the people look at the artemis pic.
11:22.25BabelOmiknix: no, you found that 0x1000 is uart3 ? :) i ve to remove that then
11:22.26kiozenBabelO: Duke Nukem Forever? That is vaporware
11:22.27cr2LOL. "donate for this DSL link"
11:22.38miknixBabelO, no.. no that one
11:22.46miknixBabelO, omap_writel(omap_readl(0xfffe10b4) | 0x4, 0xfffe10b4);
11:23.01miknixBabelO, 10b4 is PERSEUS_PCC_CONF_REG
11:23.26miknixBabelO, 0x4 is bit UART3_DPLL_REQ (for 44mhz clock)
11:23.47BabelOmiknix: no, it is bit 2 0x4
11:24.01miknixdamn
11:24.47miknixcorrect
11:25.14miknixfailed at hex
11:26.51danielkbxSorry, guys, I already sold your image to Bill Gates.
11:26.53danielkbx:-D
11:27.55cr2danielkbx: lol. i guess he has killed himself after seeing it :)
11:28.09lamagates doesnt throw chairs at least
11:28.09miknixBabelO, so your artemis is ready for everyday use of linux?
11:28.41BabelOmiknix: no sound and no suspend / resume, no battery :(
11:28.53miknixBabelO, :) almost there
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11:29.09danielkbxand  NO PHONE!
11:29.18miknix: o
11:29.22lamaheh
11:29.36lamaphone without phone
11:29.41lama:)
11:29.51cr2miknix: how does wiazrd compare to arte in hw support ?
11:30.17cr2danielkbx: there is some support for typhoon, but it needs to be checked an cleaned up.
11:30.23miknixwell.. I still find my wizard more useful with only linux and ssh running on it than wm5
11:30.34cr2danielkbx: and it's the same interface.
11:31.16goxboxlivecr2: what is the german word for splitting the cable? Like you take off som isolation and have only the leaders left.
11:31.28lamamiknix: does wifi work on wizard?
11:31.31miknixcr2, leds, vibrator, directional keys, full keyboard, backlight, MMC, framebuffer and usb
11:31.47miknixthe bluetooth driver is on the tree
11:31.55miknixso we should not have much problems
11:32.02miknixirda is also on the tree
11:32.15miknixnot sure about wifi
11:32.35miknixBabelO, still no mmc
11:32.52lamaheh
11:33.09lamaand i am selling wizard :)
11:33.16miknixlama, why?
11:33.25miknixBabelO, so far I have this: http://pastebin.com/d48562901
11:34.08lamai have bought g900 dont need two phones and i can get some $ back
11:34.39cr2goxboxlive: i'm not that much into electrical engineering. is "splitting the cable" some special term ?
11:34.42lamaand my wizard is old g3 with ugly paint
11:34.43danielkbxcr2: So you think, there is a chance, that it's working soon?
11:35.44cr2danielkbx: i think the AT interface may work
11:36.15goxboxlivecr2: Here in Norway we have a word for it, and i think the english word for it is "dismantling".
11:36.40kiozengoxboxlive: entisolieren
11:36.53cr2kiozen: http://www.weidmueller.de/22789/Produkte/Werkzeuge/Abisolieren/products.asp
11:37.00danielkbxMaybe I should port OS X for Artemis. I'll call it …let me think…iPhone?
11:37.10goxboxlivekiozen: thanks
11:37.12kiozengoxboxlive: and the tool is names "entisolierzange"
11:37.51goxboxlivethansk a lot. I am ordering som speaker cables from a german web shop, so i need to explain to them how i want my cable :-).
11:38.18kiozencr2, goxboxlive "abisolieren" is right <blush>
11:38.50kiozenshame on me :)
11:39.06cr2kiozen: lol. you are an electrical engineer :)
11:39.07lamamight be funny if htc will release android phones based on wizard/typhoon/touch hardware
11:39.23lamaand i bet they will start from such phones
11:39.42kiozencr2:  yes that is why it is so embarrassing
11:39.58goxboxlivethx
11:42.21cr2i think splitting the cable is not exactly removing the isolation, but maybe i'm wrong :)
11:44.30kiozencr2: yes I would think splitting the single cores, "abisolieren" is "to strip"
11:44.53kiozengoxboxlive: http://dict.tu-chemnitz.de/
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11:46.51cr2"abisolieren" was logical for "take off some isolation", so i tipped it in google, but you never know what terms the professionals use...
11:47.35cr2lama: what about some barebones kernel for g900 ?
11:48.20cr2kiozen: i'm looking at the sound. if it's some strange ac97 stuff, i'll continure bashing Marex :)
11:49.03lamacr2: have you compiled smthing?
11:50.41cr2lama: no, but i can try.
11:51.03cr2kiozen: i'll commit the BT support to hh.org CVS
11:52.03lamai can try it
11:52.24kiozencr2: BT is working?
11:53.07cr2no, but i think that the kernel side is ok.
11:53.20cr2hm. i need to boot off usb.
11:53.32lamabtw one could install vista on artemin running linux and qemu ;)
11:53.59cr2with the "universal" rootfs made by goxboxlive
11:55.22lamai have seen win95 on jornada 720/8 and bochs
11:56.13lamahttp://www.hpcfactor.com/reviews/editorial/bochs-2-1-1/
11:58.28danielkbxThat's really crazy.
11:59.18cr2lama: what a waste of good hardware :)
11:59.51cr2danielkbx: are there any real qt4 apps for wince ?
12:00.09danielkbxI don't think so.
12:00.30lamajlime project has first beta flashboard for jornada 7xx
12:00.57cr2lama: where do one gets the flashboard ?
12:01.13lamathat menas more ram (128) and full suspend and ability to flash linux
12:01.21lamacr2: nowhere yet
12:01.47cr2lama: i couldn't really find the connector for 820. but i have a rom board which may be adapted.
12:02.17cr2lama: it's the same for many years already. -> nowhere yet.
12:02.18lamahp was thinking about jornada with linux
12:02.34lamathere are rare flashboards from hp
12:02.47lamabut with 64mb of ram
12:03.19lamanow with new flashboard jornada might be quite nice device again
12:03.20cr2yeah, they should have used flash intstead of mask rom from the very beginning.
12:04.00cr2it's funny when i compare 820 and athena.
12:04.21lamayeah almost no progress with hardware :)
12:04.23cr2hp was so much ahead in 1998. dumbasses.
12:05.06lamawithout wince changes some old toys outperforme current ones
12:05.53cr2yes.
12:07.35lamafor example jornada 720 wince 3x reboots in 2 seconds and takes 800kb of ram or something like that with 32mb of ram more is left for user than with 64mb wm5 device :)
12:07.36cr2vga display, vga out (1024x768), usb host, spi keyboard, ps/2 touchpad, pcmcia and cf slots. it all was already done.
12:08.44cr2lama: but it mmaps the mask rom, linux kernel +apps can be xip too.
12:09.11lamaoh and with extended batttery jornada can be run for few days with wifi on :)
12:10.13lamathat is how it was done in last century :)
12:11.43cr2which wifi card do you use ?
12:11.55lamaprism and hermes
12:12.18cr2cf ? i've used ma701 cf card.
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12:12.33lamait doesnt have usb and express card so no big chance for 802g
12:13.00cr2i have a sinus 111 pcmcia (real 16bit) card,
12:13.01lamaiirc there is one or two cf 802g cards
12:13.22lamathere arent 16bit usb cards
12:13.24cr2it looks like a prism-based thing, but i can't make it to work in linux for some reason.
12:13.37cr2usb ?
12:13.46cr2i mean pcmcia.
12:14.05cr2720 does not have usb host.
12:14.12lamai men there arent 16bit pcmcia that are usb adapters
12:14.16lamamean
12:14.20cr2the sa1101 is there (as on 820), but it's not wired.
12:14.26cr2ok
12:14.31lamayes i know that
12:14.49lamabut battery life is impressive
12:15.01cr2hmm. i need to fix the 820 2.6 kernel.
12:15.25lamabattery uses 18650 cells so easy to upgrade
12:15.33cr2820 is big, so it's not suprrising that it works for 10hours. with vga 7" LCD btw.
12:15.40majorburnits also passive
12:15.47lamathere are netbbsd ports for jornadas and other handhelds too
12:16.04cr2they are not so advanced as linux
12:16.11lamag900 isnt tranflective too
12:16.18cr2ok
12:16.45cr2i have another one really nice dotcom thing
12:16.57cr2cpq aero 8000
12:17.19lamacr2: well in terms of hardware support you are right, but netbsd supports it from main src tree
12:17.24lamamips?
12:17.29cr2sh4
12:17.42cr2so no cegcc
12:17.51cr2afaik
12:18.05lamajornada 6xx is sh3
12:18.15lamai was using it for some time
12:18.22lamawith azerty keyboard
12:18.27cr2the linux port stalled because of the missing pcmcia support.
12:18.28lama:)
12:18.47cr2hmm. i wish there was haret for  jornada 6xx
12:19.26cr2aero 8000 was added to netbsd hpcboot.exe at my request
12:19.27lamathe problem with linux is that devices with native support of it wont be obsoleting :)
12:19.38cr2but it's a PITA to boot linux from hpcboot.
12:19.54lamaheh
12:20.19lamaas a loader hpcboot is nice
12:20.48cr2aero 8000 uses normal sodimm, so i've put 64M there instead of standard 16MB
12:20.56cr2and sh4 has hw fpu.
12:21.23cr2hpcboot looks more friendly than haret.
12:21.47cr2but it's a joke when it comes to "haret" capabilities.
12:22.24cr2hmm. maybe i'd read about the sh4 asm after all.
12:22.28lamanintendo dreamcast is sh4 iirc
12:22.36cr2yes.
12:23.12cr2aero 8000 has a builtin smartcard reader (fullsize)
12:23.26lamahpcboot as name states is only for booting
12:23.41lamaj7xx has smartcards reader too
12:23.46lamabut
12:24.14lamaonly very very rare 8 bit cards are working with wince and hp drivers
12:24.30lamaso it is useless hole for collecting dust
12:24.40cr2isn't it just an rs232 port ?
12:24.44cr2http://www.to-tech.com/windowsce/compaq/aero8000/
12:24.57cr2the LCD is 800x600 btw.
12:25.08lamathis hpc devices are better than umpc
12:25.43cr2sure. they were so much ahead of their time, so not a big surprise that they failed.
12:25.56lamaheh
12:27.29lamai use 7xx everyday as a ssh terminal with wince and pocketputty
12:28.25cr2lama: i'll try to compile the g900 kernel.
12:28.31lamawith suspend and dimmed screen and two batteries it has enough juice for whole week of my heavy use
13:03.37cr2lama: compiling
13:06.39lamacr2: waiting
13:06.40lama:P
13:15.34cr2lama: your mtype is 1697
13:15.50cr2i'll upload the zimage
13:17.07cr2your ramsize is 64M
13:18.54cr2lama: http://jornada820.sf.net/files/haret
13:24.34kiozencr2: Live log (track logging) for GT is now fully functional, svn up!
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13:25.08kiozencr2: think I will test and improve it and than port it to M
13:26.05cr2ok.
13:26.27kiozencr2: and I should play with a Kalman filter
13:26.56cr2i've fixed the big in Kconfig while adding G900 config. the N560 submenu entries are in the right place now.
13:27.03cr2kiozen: from gpsbabel ?
13:27.36cr2kiozen: btw, you may consider the track edit+upload to osm.
13:28.27kiozencr2: nooo, that would replace a java app, I can't do that, really no, that would help too much :P
13:29.08cr2lol
13:29.27cr2edit= remove points. i thought you already have it.
13:29.41lamacr2: do I need something more than set mtype and set kernel ?
13:29.46cr2uploading the track is really trivial.
13:30.19cr2lama: no. you'd just see the penguin and crash on missing rootfs mount.
13:31.35kiozencr2: sure I have it, just the upload is missing, no clue what OSM does
13:31.41lamawell I am asking cause I do not see penguin :P
13:32.03lamajumping to kernel and thats is all
13:32.25cr2kiozen: i've used curl, but for qt4 stuff you may look in merkaartor source.
13:32.42cr2lama: ok.
13:32.52lamathose haret fonts are so small on 800x480/3" :P
13:32.57cr2lama: add kernelcrc 1, just to be sure.
13:33.19cr2lama: yeah, they were done for 240x320
13:33.21kiozencr2: I am not sure if I can take JOSM out of business, Garmin is ok, but JOSM?
13:33.25lamaset kernelcrc 1 ?
13:34.04cr2kiozen: lol. java wheel reinventors deserve to be taken out of business :)
13:34.23cr2kiozen: i prefer merkaartor anyway.
13:35.04cr2but be be honest, both apps are lame.
13:35.07kiozennot sure waht JOSM does anyway, It looks complicated, but if it is only track edit and upload...
13:35.36lamaI think there are some additional line before jumping to kernel now
13:35.39cr2they should have written a qgis plugin, instead of wasting their time, and the time of other people.
13:35.42lamabut I can read it - too small :P
13:36.54kiozenhm, following the osm dev mailing list, I think waisting time is waht they all prefer
13:37.06cr2kiozen: JOSM is a java NIH topological plot program.
13:37.51kiozenNIH?
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13:38.02cr2NotInventedHere
13:38.37kiozenlol
13:38.38cr2leaking memory and slow as dog on filled polygons. without any spatial indexing.
13:38.54cr2well, something that you normally expect from a java program.
13:39.20kiozenleaking memory? that would be the last thing I would expect from java
13:39.44cr2i load a 38MB track there
13:39.56cr2the VM limit is 1GB RAM
13:40.14cr2it exits with "not enough memory error"
13:41.17cr2java programs leak memory as all other programs.
13:41.33cr2they just pretend that it's not a problem
13:41.54cr2but garbage collection
13:42.33kiozenhm, garbage collection in python is quite trusty, I would think it's the same in java
13:42.56lamacr2: anythine else to try/do/debug?
13:43.01lamaanything
13:46.17cr2lama: does it say 'ok' ?
13:46.39lamayes I think I see ok at the of two linse before Jumping to kernel
13:48.35cr2ok, so it's something else.
13:51.15kiozenhave to do some field testing, bbl
13:51.18lamawhole haret text is displayed on 1cm x 1.5cm screen area:P
13:52.05lamaI like small fonts - for ssh and www - but this is too much even for me :)
13:52.12cr2lol
13:57.58cr2lama: changed to 8x16
13:58.16cr2in linux, not in haret
14:01.41lamaheh
14:01.53lamayeah maybe penguin was so small that I couldn't see it :P
14:01.55lamalol
14:02.21cr2lama: i'll commit my changes, but there are several things to do
14:02.35cr2lama: compare to the htcathena.c
14:03.19cr2you don't have the CPLD, but you may reuse the matrix keybaord setup, gpio keys, and the pxa_mci config.
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14:18.40lamaI see your commit
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14:25.09cr2kiozen: can you checkout an compile the n560 kernel ?
14:25.42kiozencr2: just update the one I have got?
14:26.09cr2i'm tired of the dumb plain pxafb setup, and would like to do it in the same way as on the universal.
14:26.16cr2?
14:26.26kiozen:pserver:anoncvs@anoncvs.handhelds.org:/cvs
14:27.35cr2but i'll #ifdef the setup
14:27.36cr2yes.
14:28.03kiozencr2:  ok , cvs up
14:30.25cr2hm. i also need to add the LCD id detection.
14:40.18kiozencr2: ok update, guess my config is bad, how to fix that?
14:43.59cr2kiozen: ?
14:44.05cr2which config ?
14:44.24kiozenfrom last time I compiled the kerenl
14:44.57cr2$(MAKE) looxn560_defconfig
14:45.25kiozenarch/arm/mach-pxa/Kconfig:46: can't open file "arch/arm/mach-pxa/mioa701/Kconfig"
14:45.25kiozenmake[1]: *** [looxn560_defconfig] Fehler 1
14:45.25kiozenmake: *** [looxn560_defconfig] Fehler 2
14:45.51kiozencr2: ?
14:50.12cr2kiozen: do you have arch/arm/mach-pxa/mioa701/ ?
14:50.33cr2cvs up -dfP
14:50.44cr2cvs is not svn :)
14:51.07kiozenhm, ok
14:51.33kiozencvs sucks..
14:53.01kiozencr2: ok, better compiling ...
14:54.11kiozencr2:  you broke it http://pastebin.ca/1025938
14:55.13cr2ok, the .h file update was lost
14:56.13cr2kiozen: done.
14:56.27kiozencvs up ..
14:57.47kiozenmake -j2 ....
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14:58.36kiozenhm, quite some warnings ...
15:00.50kiozencr2: compiled, but loads of scary warnings
15:03.22lamacr2: what with g900, how can you debugg what is wrong without serial console?
15:04.15cr2kiozen: scary ?
15:04.31kiozeneg:
15:04.32cr2kiozen: why do i get the warnings in loox* related files ?
15:04.33kiozenIn file included from arch/arm/boot/compressed/misc.c:30:
15:04.34kiozeninclude/asm/arch/uncompress.h:21: warning: conflicting types for built-in function ‘putc’
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15:05.04cr2lama: do you have serial console ? IR ?
15:05.15cr2kiozen: this one is not so bad.
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15:05.40kiozendrivers/usb/gadget/pxa27x_udc.c: In function ‘pxa27x_ep_alloc_buffer’:
15:05.40kiozendrivers/usb/gadget/pxa27x_udc.c:358: warning: ‘virt_to_bus’ is deprecated (declared at include/asm/memory.h:192)
15:05.40kiozendrivers/usb/gadget/pxa27x_udc.c: In function ‘validate_fifo_size’:
15:05.40kiozendrivers/usb/gadget/pxa27x_udc.c:1176: warning: control reaches end of non-void function
15:06.04cr2kiozen: it works.
15:06.20kiozenCC      drivers/base/power/suspend.o
15:06.20kiozenfs/block_dev.c: In function ‘bd_claim_by_disk’:
15:06.20kiozenfs/block_dev.c:953: warning: ‘found’ may be used uninitialized in this function
15:06.20kiozenfs/block_dev.c:953: note: ‘found’ was declared here
15:06.31kiozenand so on...
15:06.38cr2kiozen: check the loox* files.
15:07.10kiozencr2: ok
15:07.14kiozen<PROTECTED>
15:07.17cr2kiozen: these things do not hurt the -> 2.6.26 transition
15:07.18kiozenarch/arm/mach-pxa/looxc550/looxc550.c:51: warning: function declaration isn’t a prototype
15:07.18kiozenarch/arm/mach-pxa/looxc550/looxc550.c:57: warning: function declaration isn’t a prototype
15:07.18kiozenarch/arm/mach-pxa/looxc550/looxc550.c:64: warning: function declaration isn’t a prototype
15:07.18kiozenarch/arm/mach-pxa/looxc550/looxc550.c:70: warning: function declaration isn’t a prototype
15:07.18kiozenarch/arm/mach-pxa/looxc550/looxc550.c:78: warning: function declaration isn’t a prototype
15:07.19kiozenarch/arm/mach-pxa/looxc550/looxc550.c:78: warning: ‘set_re’ defined but not used
15:07.23cr2yes.
15:07.33cr2why is that ? warning: function declaration isn’t a prototype
15:07.47cr2set_re is ok.
15:08.06kiozendon't know, I recompile and capture the complete log
15:08.24lamacr2: no
15:08.35lamabut afaik X01t has irda!
15:12.57cr2hm.
15:13.02cr2one more bug.
15:15.11cr2fixed.
15:15.32kiozencr2: http://pastebin.ca/1025961
15:15.52kiozenlooks like the above is the only loox related
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15:21.00cr2kiozen: why does it dislike the function declaration ?
15:22.13kiozencr2 unless gpio_cs is a macro the parameter type is missing
15:22.34kiozenwe don't do python here  :)
15:23.02cr2ok, i'm dumb :)
15:23.23kiozenhehe :)
15:23.27cr2i always think that the function params are sizeof(register) :)
15:23.36cr2and don't need any declarations.
15:23.48cr2too much disassembly :)
15:24.07cr2you see, sometimes C is too high-level .
15:24.12kiozenI have made myself a complete moron on the qt-interest list yesterday :)
15:24.33kiozensimply did see the obvious
15:25.08cr2shit happens :)
15:25.14kiozenyup :)
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15:25.33kiozentell me when you fixed it
15:26.11cr2i've moved the things to a different file. trying to boot it now.
15:30.23cr2kiozen: the boot "crash" has something to do with the lcd.
15:30.33cr2it's not a real crash.
15:31.16kiozencr2: ? what crash
15:31.47cr2"freeze" on boot
15:32.09cr2heh. works now, but wtf the lcd is not enabled by default ??
15:32.34cr2i must login and do 'echo 0 > /sys/class/lcd/pxa2xx-fb/power' :)
15:33.17kiozenwhat has the lcd to do with failing to mount root device?
15:33.35cr2it works on the universal.
15:33.43cr2mount is a different issue.
15:34.13cr2ok, so the transition to a "subclassed" pxafb was half-successful :)
15:39.17cr2ok, not it's clean.
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15:47.35cr2kiozen: ok, i'll try usb now.
15:48.09kiozennodes
15:51.18dcordescr2: have you seen the pinochio on moko link?
15:53.11cr2dcordes: yes. that will make gnu hurd run  on moko :)
16:08.40cr2kiozen: it's your qtopia on the usb stick too ;
16:08.59kiozenon the usb stick?
16:09.01lamacr2: are you going to prepare something else for g900 today?
16:09.58cr2kiozen: yes. uh. M is really ancient there.
16:10.16cr2kiozen: but it works.
16:10.33cr2lama: i'm fighting with n560 now.
16:10.52kiozencr2: use the one from www.qlandkarte.org/QLandkarteM
16:10.53dcordesmartin__: ping
16:11.00dcordesmsm needs you
16:11.18BabelOcr2: any idea to fix the bt support ?  do you see my post this night ?
16:11.43lamacr2: ok
16:11.47cr2BabelO: no
16:12.04dcordesBabelO: hi, somebody asked me about a wince free htc. How do you boot artemis?
16:12.12cr2BabelO: i need some common qtopia image. that may be tested on uni too.
16:12.30BabelOcr2: http://pastebin.ca/1025396
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16:14.00BabelOdcordes: i boot with eol ( directly from htc bootloazder) or from haret
16:14.11cr2BabelO: it was the same on n560
16:15.28BabelOcr2: so our problem is due to hciattach 921600 support ?
16:15.28cr2dcordes: wince-free htc may be the blueangel (v5). but we need the flash vpp, and some simple bootloader.
16:16.00dcordescr2: why not v6? and btw did you modify the spi code?
16:16.03cr2BabelO: don't know. i need some tools that work, and may be tested in parallel on the universal.
16:18.19cr2kiozen: it works too
16:18.58cr2kiozen: there is some fsckup with the initial lcd state, need to track it later.  but it's a minor issue.
16:19.57kiozencr2: ok, that is booting via loadlin or via haret?
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16:24.26cr2kiozen: i boot with linload off the usb stick.
16:25.54kiozencr2: ok, possible to do this from sd too? I am a bit concerned about this frequent hangup
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16:26.18BabelOcr2: i ve updated wiki cpld
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16:31.47cr2kiozen: ok, i have some ideas what can be done better about the pxamci.
16:32.19kiozencr2: do you get the same hangups as I?
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16:37.17cr2kiozen: no, but i'll try to boot with linload.exe now.
16:42.42kiozenok, got to go, bbl
16:44.22cr2BabelO: spamming for athena http://hardware.slashdot.org/hardware/08/05/22/1616218.shtml
16:45.45BabelOcr2: lol, "It is technically a smartphone" no no technically a computer :)
16:46.14cr2ameo looks better
16:46.53BabelOcr2: i want to understand why g3 does not work
16:47.17BabelOcr2: i look at trueFFS.dll and it seem that i m wrong g3 is at 0x40000000
16:49.13cr2BabelO: try to load docg3 at 0x40000000
16:50.02cr2BabelO: the driver does not look nice ( like the other typhoon code :) but it detects the g3 if it's there.
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16:53.38BabelOcr2: i m trying with typhoon code , but don't think it works
16:54.56cr2BabelO: docg3.c is typhoon code
16:54.56cr2BabelO: this is something for Marex :)
16:54.56cr2The X7510 runs the Windows Mobile 6.1 Professional operating system. The differences between 6.0 and 6.1 in the Professional (touchscreen) version are minimal. Apart from the threaded SMS support, few users will notice much of a change from the OS that ran on the prior version of the Advantage.
16:56.41lamamy phone has 6.0 :-/
16:56.57lamaIE is bit different too
16:57.16lamaI've heard that m$ will release new IE for wm this year
16:57.26lamasomething like office "update" for wm5/6 users
16:58.30cr2lama: they are innovating :)
16:58.41lamayeah :>
16:58.54dcordesbbl
16:58.55cr2"threaded SMS support" is a very important feature.
16:59.01lamaCE6/wm7 is scheduled for end of the year too
16:59.13lamathat might be "whole new mobile experience" :P
16:59.21cr2lol
16:59.41lamam$ stated they aim for 40% market share in 2-3 years
17:00.01cr2wishful thinking ;-)
17:00.12lamawho knows, wm7 and devices like htc touch diamond might achive that
17:00.31lamaachieve
17:01.05cr2i'd like to look at the diamond rom.
17:01.28lamaanyway I will buy linux phone as soon as it will have "all" hardware toys like gps, vga, 3d, keyboard
17:01.54lamacr2: I think xda ppl have it
17:02.10lamasome things have been extracted allready: keyboard, new opera
17:02.37lamaand I think you were wrong with saying that keiser and touch do not have similar 3d chipset
17:02.47BabelOcr2: Doc_G3: chip id=5
17:02.53BabelOcr2: does not work at all
17:02.55lamaxda-devs are trying to "port" driver from touch to keisers
17:03.03lamabrb
17:06.55cr2ms people always do strange things.
17:33.35dcordescr2: kaiser send fifo? :)
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17:48.25cr2dcordes: i don't actually understand the problem
17:48.28BabelOola Marex, does your spam filter works well ? :)
17:48.56cr2send fifo is "your" fifo, you should set the head/tail so arm9 can pick it up.
17:48.57MarexBabelO, hello, hehe :)
17:49.24cr2when arm9 sets it for recv fifo, you pick it without any problems.
17:50.00cr2Marex: wm9750
17:58.24cr2BabelO: have you tried to talk to the AT fifo by using the typhoon code ?
17:59.16cr2BabelO:  btw, what happens if you do 'pd 0x0 0x800' ?
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18:08.56BabelOcr2: i ve tried typhoon code, but nothing ;(
18:09.09BabelOi try haet now
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18:24.49BabelOcr2: IPL ....3.13
18:25.05BabelOcr2: IPL_G4
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18:28.53cr2ok.
18:32.38BabelOcr2: you want full dump ? :)
18:33.17BabelOcr2: it seem you are right it is diskonchip here
18:45.44BabelOcr2: strange, i can monitor i2c irq and dma 1 channel irq when sound play, but i  cant see i2c traffic ... but i can for camera and radio ...
18:45.49BabelOtraffic is too fast ?
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19:18.15cr2BabelO: pwf arteipl 0x0 0x800
19:18.45cr2BabelO: trace in haret works reliably only on pxa
19:19.17cr2and sometimes also on pxa with quirks
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19:21.55BabelOcr2: mail sent
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19:47.30cr2BabelO: ok.
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19:51.14Marexhttp://www.darwinawards.com/legends/legends1998-08.html :)
19:52.54cr2Marex: evolution is only a theory :)
19:53.04Marexindeed
19:58.19Marexcr2, http://www.darwinawards.com/legends/legends1998-10.html well this is ... :D
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20:35.31pikapikahi
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21:00.23paulproteusHi pikapika.
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21:17.16cr2kiozen: hehe
21:17.19cr2root@htcuniversal:~$ cat /proc/apm
21:17.19cr21.13 1.2 0x02 0xff 0xff 0xff -1% -1 ?
21:19.22Marexcr2, something doesnt seem ok :)
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21:22.31majorburnIt looks like cat is broken
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21:30.31Marexmajorburn, I think it's dog, that is broken
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21:47.14cr2Marex: evil wm9750. looking for an expert :)
21:48.00Marexcr2, you mean yourself ? :)
21:54.25cr2Marex: no, somebody who is better than me :)
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22:24.04Marexcr2, who is that ?
22:28.25cr2Marex: it's some person that knows the alsa wm97* code well
22:30.13Marexcr2, hmm ... that has to be some pretty skilled kernel hacker :)
22:30.21cr2yes.
22:33.34miknixKevin3, ping
22:37.36cr2miknix: have you tried the gsm typhoon driver on wizard ?
22:37.44miknixcr2, no
22:38.17cr2i think it'll slowly become a good idea to do it.
22:38.51miknixsure :)
22:39.58cr2but it needs to be cleaned.
22:40.18cr2it's also a good idea to use the spi100k driver by BabelO
22:40.31miknixcr2, we are using spi100k
22:40.43cr2for syren
22:40.53cr2in the gsm-typhoon
22:41.37cr2miknix: BabelO has tried to boot the acx100 driver
22:44.35revertivecr2: i have tryed the gsm typhoon driver a couple of days ago, i loaded fine, but /dev/gsm didnt work
22:45.59BabelOcr2: i heard a "tac" when switching a gpio on bank 7 :) seem bank 7 contain a general power on
22:46.07cr2revertive: ok, do you have any debugging info from it ?
22:46.33cr2revertive: you run with 60MB RAM ?
22:46.40revertivecr2: no, dmesg didnt give me any debug messages
22:46.49revertivecr2: yes
22:47.03cr2revertive: there is some debugging code there. afair
22:47.07cr2ok
22:47.41cr2BabelO: i think we should dump a lot of data from this driver (syren  regs), and cross-correlate them
22:47.52cr2BabelO: the ipl is interesting.
22:49.12BabelOcr2: what do you see interesting ? suspoend / resume ? btw i2c detect something at 0x10
22:50.03BabelOcr2: and values are always changing at this adress :) i have to desactivate fm , just to see :)
22:50.44cr2BabelO: but the si47xx i2c_id is known ?
22:51.29BabelOcr2: don't seem it is that ...
22:52.22BabelOcr2: where is your wiki i2c page ? :)
22:53.42cr2http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_I2C_IDs
22:53.54cr2but nothing about arte there.
22:54.05cr2you'd look at the si47xx datasheet
22:55.09miknixwtf
22:56.05miknixon htc-bbkeys driver from Kevin3, dpad input works
22:56.24miknixhowever I'm not able to set cpld bits
22:57.33cr2BabelO: e1000 config
22:57.51cr2UPLD_CTRL
22:57.52mistadmanHello
22:58.36cr2BabelO: what is ec808 ? swdt ?
22:58.40mistadmanI need help on the Athena! Pls help. lol!
23:00.30mistadmanHow can I rotate the fb? And Not just the fbcon...
23:01.47BabelOcr2: it is the secure watchdog write F0 and A0 something, not sure about values, htcartemis is wrong ;à i see that yesturday
23:01.58mistadman"fbcon: rotate=" only rotates the console.
23:03.11BabelOcr2: and ec800 is the watchdog timer
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23:07.48cr2ok.
23:08.05cr2mistadman: do you have the andriod source ?
23:08.17cr2BabelO: ok.
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23:10.52miknixdamn
23:10.56miknixlinuxtogo webgit is down
23:11.15miknixcan someone plz pastebin the htcapache.c file?
23:19.25BabelOmiknix: http://pastebin.ca/1026452
23:19.32miknixBabelO, thanks
23:19.33cr2BabelO: we need an mcr cr15 wiki page ;)
23:20.06BabelOcr2: why ? this two register are mysterious for me i just read some doc about that s all
23:20.27cr2ok
23:20.29cr20x20031C04
23:20.34cr2is it in sram ?
23:21.06mistadmancr2:Yes, I have the source
23:21.24BabelOcr2: yes
23:21.43cr2mistadman: ok, then you should fix it :)
23:21.59cr2BabelO: ldr     r1, 0x201000
23:22.06cr2BabelO: it's the same as on n560
23:22.29cr2BabelO: sable also has g4, but uses ldr     r1, 0x1000 here
23:22.35BabelOcr2: a new htc resume handler ? :)
23:23.03cr2BabelO: so it's not suprising that you get a g3 detection failure ;)
23:23.10mistadmancr2: Ha ha. >:-(
23:23.19mistadmanHear me out...
23:23.33BabelOcr2: ok, same on ba
23:23.37cr2BabelO: first, you have g4. and _this_ g4 uses 0x201000 base address
23:23.44cr2BabelO: ba uses g3
23:23.56BabelOcr2: but ba not well detected too
23:24.02cr2BabelO: change the 0x1000 address
23:24.06BabelOcr2: ok so i try this adress ? :)
23:24.19cr2BabelO: ba uses 8bit bus, not 16bit.
23:24.26BabelOcr2: ok
23:24.44cr2BabelO: yes. then the g4 chip will be detected. let's hope you'll not destroy ipl in the progress :)
23:24.54BabelOcr2: so doc_location is still 0 but register read is 0x201000
23:25.04cr2location is 0
23:25.16cr2register base is not 0x1000 but 0x201000
23:25.23BabelOok
23:26.03cr2BabelO: hehe. 0xaa is written to 0x04000000 ?
23:26.15cr2wtf ?
23:26.29cr2BabelO: the rest is ok.
23:26.55cr2ah, it's cpld.
23:27.06mistadmanAndroid boots on the Athena, but my key pad operations horizontally, My tochscreen operations horizontally, but Android boots vertically... And I figured since the the Athena is designed to held horizontally, I would just rotate Android horizontally.
23:27.18cr2BabelO: what does 0xaa do with cpld0 ?
23:27.43BabelOcr2: so i add a chip +0x200000 to registers ?
23:27.45cr2mistadman: well, then rotate the android.
23:28.07BabelOcr2: cold0 is mysterious for me i did no touch and under linux all is set to 0
23:28.31cr2BabelO: add 0x200000 to these
23:28.34cr2#define DoC_G3_ChipID         0x1000
23:28.34cr2#define DoC_G3_DeviceIdSelect 0x100a
23:28.34cr2#define DoC_G3_Ctrl           0x100c
23:28.37cr2and so on.
23:29.08cr2BabelO: ipl writes 0xaa there.
23:29.19cr210101010 :)
23:29.53cr2BabelO: be careful with it :)
23:30.19cr2because it's done in the SPL load section.
23:30.31mistadmanThe problem is that android will also rotate my touch screen. Right?
23:30.39cr2BabelO: spooky stuff.
23:30.57cr2mistadman: i have no clue about andriod internals.
23:31.40mistadmanI just figured that rotating the framebuffer would be easier than changing my dpad and touchscreen.
23:31.49cr2BabelO: but the G4 detection should work.
23:32.45cr2mistadman: it has nothing to do with touchscreen
23:33.16cr2BabelO: otherwise the loader looks rather standard.
23:34.29BabelOcr2: ok trying now :)
23:34.48BabelOcr2: suspend / resume can work :)
23:35.09BabelOcr2: i don't want reboot in wince like you :)
23:36.09cr2lol
23:36.20cr2find the ba vpp ;)
23:36.38cr2i'd reflash g4 if you'll write the driver for it.
23:37.00cr2the py dis script by pH5 is very nice.
23:37.48cr2BabelO: this is the SPL loader start
23:37.51cr2<PROTECTED>
23:37.52cr2<PROTECTED>
23:37.52cr2<PROTECTED>
23:37.52cr2<PROTECTED>
23:38.42BabelOcr2: yes i m curious what 0xaa do :)
23:38.52BabelOcr2: i always boot with 0x0 here
23:39.16cr2BabelO: and later
23:39.19cr24ec:   e3a000bb        mov     r0, #187        ; 0xbb
23:39.19cr2<PROTECTED>
23:39.19cr2<PROTECTED>
23:39.45cr2may be some debug leds or so.
23:40.54cr2BabelO: i think we'd fully document it.
23:41.04cr2the loader.
23:41.21cr2then you may load eol/zimage this way.
23:42.00cr2BabelO: this is at the beginning
23:42.03cr2<PROTECTED>
23:42.03cr2<PROTECTED>
23:42.03cr2<PROTECTED>
23:42.15cr2look like step by step debugging to me.
23:42.18BabelOcr2: eol already work well like that, don't want to break device :)
23:42.52cr2<PROTECTED>
23:42.52cr2<PROTECTED>
23:42.52cr2<PROTECTED>
23:43.38cr2and it uses sram at 0x20031c04
23:44.08cr2stmia   r1!, {r4, r5, r6, r7}
23:44.57BabelOcr2: with adress changed, i get oops on load ...
23:45.22cr2hm. ioremap is bad ?
23:45.48cr2g3->virtaddr = ioremap(g3->physaddr, DoC_G3_IOREMAP_LEN);
23:46.05cr2#define DoC_G3_IOREMAP_LEN  0x8000
23:46.11cr2change this one too.
23:47.33BabelOyes good idea, surely that
23:52.11cr2BabelO: athena g4 is at 0x1000
23:52.21cr2like sable g4. older chips ?
23:52.44BabelObooting
23:52.48cr2ok
23:55.06BabelOcr2: Doc_G3: chip id=1000
23:55.13BabelOcr2: still this message failed
23:57.22cr2hm. strange.
23:58.28cr2BabelO: the code it trivial, i don't understand why it can fail.
23:58.32cr2good night.

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