| 00:00.09 | Kevin3 | Earlier you said it was working. What makes you say that? |
| 00:00.50 | miknix | Kevin3, I toke your driver and removed gpio functions |
| 00:01.18 | miknix | Kevin3, pressing the dpad successfully outputs input events |
| 00:02.24 | Kevin3 | Hrmm. So, it works for the keypad, but not the gpios? |
| 00:02.34 | miknix | Kevin3, kind of |
| 00:02.46 | miknix | Kevin3, the sysfs interface works like this |
| 00:02.53 | miknix | echo "r 3" > cpldio |
| 00:03.11 | miknix | this will let the driver that further reads are on reg 3 |
| 00:03.26 | miknix | s/that f/know that f/ |
| 00:03.51 | miknix | then |
| 00:03.57 | miknix | cat cpldio |
| 00:04.07 | miknix | this will call your bbkeys_read() function |
| 00:04.12 | miknix | for reg = 3 |
| 00:05.08 | miknix | now.. if I want to write to the cpld reg 3 value 0xf0 : echo "w 3 0xf0" > cpldio |
| 00:05.20 | miknix | that will call bbkeys_write() |
| 00:06.09 | miknix | Kevin3, now the problem is that echo "r 4" > cpldio; cat cpldio always returns 0xff (4 is the reg for dpad) |
| 00:07.42 | Kevin3 | miknix: That is normal for my phones. The register only reports non-zero bits when a key is depressed. |
| 00:08.14 | miknix | Kevin3, same here.. but I press the key several times and the value doesnt change |
| 00:09.01 | Kevin3 | miknix: What happens if you hold the key down while running the query? |
| 00:09.11 | miknix | Kevin3, 0xff |
| 00:09.38 | miknix | Kevin3, my experience with cpld through i2c is that it should return 0xfe |
| 00:09.58 | Kevin3 | So, what makes you say that it works then? |
| 00:10.56 | miknix | Kevin3, because when I use your driver (by only removing the gpio interface) when I press buttons, the driver actually reports them as keypresses |
| 00:11.49 | Kevin3 | miknix: The correct keypresses, or random ones? |
| 00:11.57 | miknix | Kevin3, correct |
| 00:12.08 | miknix | so I'm kind of lost |
| 00:12.41 | Kevin3 | Did you completely disable the bbkeys key processing in the driver that has the sysfs interface? |
| 00:13.01 | miknix | Kevin3, yes |
| 00:14.00 | Kevin3 | miknix: The chip may have a timeout between when the event is raised and when it must be read. You may not be able to manually simulate that. |
| 00:16.37 | Kevin3 | It looks like I didn't turn on auto key repeat, so I think the chip may have raised multiple individual key presses when the key is held down. |
| 00:16.38 | miknix | Kevin3, with my i2c cpld driver, if I keep pressing the dpad the returned value has pressed key bits enabled |
| 00:17.35 | Kevin3 | miknix: I don't know. But, if it works, why fight it? |
| 00:18.20 | miknix | Kevin3, I wanted to discover reg and values for enabling leds, vibrator... |
| 00:19.33 | Kevin3 | When you had dpad working, what was in your 'struct htc_bbkeys_platform_data' ? |
| 00:20.04 | miknix | same thing as I have now.. plus the IRQ for dpad presses |
| 00:20.28 | Kevin3 | miknix: Can you pastebin the init data structure? |
| 00:21.17 | miknix | Kevin3, http://pastebin.com/d56c4ef02 |
| 00:22.35 | Kevin3 | I meant the one where you had dpad working. What was your key1reg, key2reg, and ackreg? |
| 00:22.50 | miknix | Kevin3, the same as apache |
| 00:23.07 | miknix | key1=4 key2=5 ack=3 |
| 00:23.31 | miknix | hum.. |
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| 00:25.20 | Kevin3 | And you can't read reg 4 or reg 5 manually? |
| 00:25.25 | miknix | no |
| 00:25.31 | miknix | well.. it reads |
| 00:25.37 | miknix | but always return 0xff |
| 00:25.42 | miknix | even during dpad presses |
| 00:26.18 | Kevin3 | What happens if you read from other registers/ |
| 00:26.21 | Kevin3 | ? |
| 00:26.24 | miknix | 0xff |
| 00:27.43 | miknix | through i2c, registers with odd numbers returns directional keys status on the front pad, even numbers returns directional keys on the keyboard |
| 00:27.51 | Kevin3 | Have you tried putting a printk in bbkeys_read that shows what register is requested and what the value is? |
| 00:28.06 | miknix | Kevin3, yes.. the printk is there |
| 00:28.20 | Kevin3 | (And return to the working dpad driver?) |
| 00:28.39 | Kevin3 | Just to verify that with the working dpad driver you do get valid values back from bbkeys_read. |
| 00:28.44 | miknix | hum.. |
| 00:28.50 | miknix | that is a good idea |
| 00:29.10 | miknix | but I supposed that in order to report key events the 0xff must change to something else.. |
| 00:30.53 | Kevin3 | miknix: Another thing to try is to first ack the key, and then do the read. |
| 00:31.06 | miknix | Kevin3, I tried that |
| 00:31.08 | Kevin3 | If you look at the original driver, it does a bbkeys_write(bb, pdata->ackreg, 0); before reading. |
| 00:32.44 | Kevin3 | miknix: If you put aside key reads for a moment - can you drive the leds by writing to the registers? |
| 00:32.53 | miknix | Kevin3, no |
| 00:34.44 | Kevin3 | Have you tried rebooting the phone? Maybe the chip just got into a funky state? |
| 00:34.59 | miknix | Kevin3, yeah.. I even asked other ppl to test |
| 00:39.10 | Kevin3 | miknix: I don't know. It's very odd that it was working with dpad and then stopped. |
| 00:39.36 | miknix | indeed |
| 00:39.40 | Kevin3 | I guess the chip could be finicky about getting the key presses read off in a timely manor, but I don't recall having that issue with my phones. |
| 00:40.04 | miknix | Kevin3, maybe it is just returning 0xff.. and the driver is reporting it as enter |
| 00:40.22 | miknix | almost done reverting |
| 00:40.30 | Kevin3 | 0xffff should not report any event. |
| 00:41.03 | miknix | I dont have a explanation then |
| 00:41.57 | Kevin3 | Actually, it will report an event on 0xffff -- it reports key up for all the buttons.. Maybe you were seeing that? |
| 00:43.41 | miknix | we'll see what printk says |
| 00:45.07 | miknix | booting |
| 00:46.37 | miknix | Kevin3, you were right |
| 00:46.54 | miknix | 0xffff0000 |
| 00:47.55 | holymoly | waves |
| 00:47.58 | Kevin3 | Huh? |
| 00:48.31 | miknix | Kevin3, not sure about 0000 |
| 00:49.32 | Kevin3 | Yeah, that is odd - that means it read 0000 - the top bits shouldn't be set at all. |
| 00:50.18 | miknix | so I guess the bb algorithm is different then |
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| 00:51.02 | Kevin3 | Could be. I'm still confused on the i2c stuff that you used. Were you able to use the standard i2c protocol? |
| 00:51.25 | Kevin3 | The phones I have issue an address in 4 bits. The standard says use 7 bits. |
| 00:52.00 | miknix | Kevin3, yes.. it looks like standard i2c proto works |
| 00:52.19 | miknix | Kevin3, did you try the i2c bitbang bus? |
| 00:52.35 | Kevin3 | miknix: Try changing __bkeys_read/write so that the "send register" has a length of 8 instead of 5. |
| 00:53.22 | Kevin3 | miknix: No, I never tried using the standard drivers - wince definitely wasn't using a standard, so I didn't even bother trying. |
| 00:55.42 | miknix | Kevin3, http://pastebin.com/d44d452de |
| 00:56.18 | miknix | Kevin3, looks like the i2c bitbang bus has some code to detect the reg length |
| 01:00.12 | miknix | K.. changed the send register to 8 |
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| 01:02.01 | Kevin3 | miknix: The only thing I see is a test for 10 vs 8 bit addresses -- those are both standards - a 5 bit address is just weird. |
| 01:02.18 | miknix | lol |
| 01:04.15 | Kevin3 | ? |
| 01:04.16 | miknix | Kevin3, 8bit returns the same thing |
| 01:05.14 | Kevin3 | 0xffff0000 ? Where are you printing the value out? |
| 01:06.09 | miknix | after reading the status registers |
| 01:06.18 | miknix | on bbkeys_isr |
| 01:06.50 | miknix | regs = ~(bbkeys_read(bb, pdata->key1reg) |
| 01:06.50 | miknix | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:07.01 | miknix | both returns 0xffff |
| 01:08.25 | Kevin3 | Okay. You could try '7' instead of '8' or '5' (I seem to recall thinking I may have been off-by-one.) However, I'm not sure it's going to help. |
| 01:09.10 | Kevin3 | You've double checked the gpios for clock and data are correct? |
| 01:09.44 | miknix | Kevin3, yeah.. they are the same I use for the i2c bb bus |
| 01:10.24 | miknix | Kevin3, changing the address length wasnt supposed to violate the protocol? the controller seems always to ack |
| 01:12.25 | Kevin3 | An ack is a 1 bit -- so reading all 1s will seem like an ack. |
| 01:12.45 | miknix | well.. 50% prob :P |
| 01:15.44 | miknix | Kevin3, samething with 7 |
| 01:17.28 | Kevin3 | miknix: Okay - that's odd. I would have thought the bbkeys driver was close enough to i2c to drive your chip. |
| 01:18.22 | miknix | Kevin3, well.. looking at the i2c bb algorithm.. the protocol here seems complex |
| 01:18.31 | miknix | but very similar |
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| 11:28.41 | cr2 | hi |
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| 12:26.28 | pikapika | hi |
| 12:37.53 | dzo | hi |
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| 12:41.33 | dzo | I've made some progress with vogue, got msm_proc_comm working, allows audio calls and vibrate. It's very close to being usable as a phone now. Am working on PM. |
| 12:44.28 | cr2 | dzo: do you control the clocks and power_ic directly ? |
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| 12:59.46 | dcordes_ | hi |
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| 13:08.54 | marex | cr2, no |
| 13:12.56 | cr2 | dcordes_: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=394384 |
| 13:13.03 | cr2 | marex: wm9750 :) |
| 13:15.57 | marex | I have exam on monday, forget it |
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| 13:20.43 | dcordes_ | cr2: "Would be nice if someone tests this on a MSM7201 based kaiser" I wasn't aware there are 7201 kaisers |
| 13:21.01 | BabelO | hi |
| 13:21.29 | dcordes_ | hi BabelO |
| 13:22.15 | BabelO | cr2: i just start no eliminate gpio that are not used as gpio |
| 13:22.15 | cr2 | dcordes_: i think he menat diamond |
| 13:22.25 | cr2 | BabelO: ? |
| 13:22.58 | cr2 | dcordes_: what do they mean ? :) |
| 13:23.02 | cr2 | Smartphones bieten mit ihren offenen Betriebssystemen zwar Anreiz für |
| 13:23.02 | cr2 | Programmierer in böser Mission. Sie sind aber noch nicht weit genug |
| 13:23.02 | cr2 | verbreitet. |
| 13:23.27 | BabelO | cr2: all gpios that have not there IO_CONF settings to gpio, for exemple gpio 69 and 70 are set to i2c sda /sck pin |
| 13:24.03 | dcordes_ | cr2: haha ok this is an evil crusade! |
| 13:24.03 | cr2 | BabelO: ok. can you add it to wiki ? i've not read the IO_CONF documentation. |
| 13:24.15 | dcordes_ | where is that statement from? |
| 13:24.42 | cr2 | dcordes_: read somewhere, already forgot where. |
| 13:24.55 | BabelO | cr2: yes doing it :) |
| 13:25.39 | cr2 | dcordes_: i was wondering if the open systems are not widespread, or the programmers :) |
| 13:26.23 | dcordes_ | cr2: I had a discussion yesterday to which extent the systems are |
| 13:26.43 | dcordes_ | sad there are no figures |
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| 13:28.20 | dcordes_ | cr2: ah right concerning the 7201 kaisers I read one post in xda forum. a person said they sent their kaiser in for service and after that system information said msm7201 |
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| 13:29.02 | cr2 | dcordes_: then it's a "politically correct" version of 7200 |
| 13:29.22 | cr2 | still not the 'A' version. |
| 13:29.41 | cr2 | i guess it's the same cpu, like it was with sa1100 and sa1110 |
| 13:31.31 | dcordes_ | cr2: you mean beacuse of the imageon stuff? |
| 13:34.26 | cr2 | yes |
| 13:35.24 | lama | as I have said ppl are trying to hack drivers from diamond for keiser |
| 13:35.44 | cr2 | lama: link ? |
| 13:35.55 | dcordes_ | a diamon rom would be nice |
| 13:36.55 | lama | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=355345 |
| 13:37.01 | lama | cmonex is on freenode |
| 13:37.05 | lama | ask her for details |
| 13:38.18 | dcordes_ | A (Mark Moons, HTC): I can confirm we will release a ROM-update for the TyTN II this month which will solve and improve most issues. This will also be a 6.1 update so the TyTN II will be completely up to date. I cannot confirm this for other devices. |
| 13:38.37 | lama | dcordes_: it's allready on rapishare |
| 13:38.52 | lama | nothing impressive compared to cooked roms as far as i know |
| 13:38.56 | cr2 | yes, but it's not the A cpu |
| 13:39.14 | cr2 | lama: did you expect something else ? |
| 13:39.57 | lama | no, I don't expect anything for Keiser, and anything from m$ or anything from Toshiba/Nvidia (for my phone) |
| 13:40.23 | lama | I hope to get something like G900 with Linux out of the box at the end of this year:P |
| 13:40.26 | lama | that is all I need :P |
| 13:40.31 | dcordes_ | lama: do you know the page which details on diamon drivers? |
| 13:41.40 | lama | dcordes_: xda-dev? or join #hpcdev and ask cmonex/ no2chem /isotherm - I think they are/will be doing something with that |
| 13:42.02 | lama | there is xda channel too |
| 13:42.05 | cr2 | lama: do you know perl programming ? |
| 13:42.13 | dcordes_ | lama: no I mean in the thread |
| 13:42.17 | lama | cr2: no :P |
| 13:42.23 | lama | why are you asking? |
| 13:42.30 | lama | ? |
| 13:42.40 | lama | | |
| 13:42.56 | cr2 | there is a piece of pxa27xgpio decoding code in perl. |
| 13:43.36 | cr2 | i'd like to convert it to c/c++, and add to haret, so the life will be much easier for the px27x owners. |
| 13:44.02 | lama | there is perlce :p |
| 13:44.37 | cr2 | it's not about perl or ce, but the ease of use. |
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| 13:45.54 | cr2 | lama: you can also extend the g900 wiki page at hh.org |
| 13:47.41 | lama | http://estel.wpia.uw.edu.pl/~lama/g900/ it is back |
| 13:47.52 | cr2 | ok |
| 13:48.48 | lama | http://netbsd.pl/~lama/g900/ some is there too, and rest was pastebined |
| 13:49.12 | cr2 | ok |
| 13:50.24 | lama | cr2: I'm not only lazy - would be better if you do that - I'm not "skilled" :P |
| 13:51.00 | lama | I've just got pxa27x manual - btw it's gone from intel site and marvell doesn't have it too |
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| 13:55.21 | lama | cr2: we could ask someone from myg900.com to try something on X01t - it's softbank (.jp) branded G900 with irda (and no usb host?) |
| 13:58.02 | lama | dcordes_: if you haven't seen it yet http://www.modaco.com/content/pocket-pc-professional-news/268599/the-htc-kaiser-6-1-performance-update-is-here/ |
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| 14:35.20 | BabelO | cr2: still around ? |
| 14:35.55 | BabelO | cr2: wiki spio updated :) |
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| 14:41.03 | cr2 | BabelO: update http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Xanadux |
| 14:42.27 | cr2 | BabelO: no clashes ? |
| 14:42.40 | cr2 | BabelO: there is also the cpld page. |
| 14:42.56 | cr2 | BabelO: a very nice page :) |
| 14:45.40 | BabelO | cr2: only EMIF ... i found how to drive LED blink ( it seem LPG register is for that ) :) |
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| 14:46.42 | BabelO | cr2: yes, i ve to update cpld page too |
| 14:52.51 | BabelO | cr2: so it seem that lcdspi is not really needed, because it is wired and set to spi mode the one used for ts |
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| 14:56.07 | BabelO | cr2: for emif -> http://www.spansion.com/application_notes/intrfc_flash-ti_omap-proc_an_a0_e.pdf |
| 14:56.19 | cr2 | BabelO: why spl does bbang ? |
| 14:57.49 | BabelO | cr2: don't know, maybe they use a copy / paste code for spl :) or not for this board |
| 14:59.37 | cr2 | ok |
| 15:04.45 | BabelO | cr2: now i need to dump which are entry gpios |
| 15:40.53 | dcordes_ | martin__: any luck with the serial? |
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| 16:34.44 | BabelO | cr2: echo mem > /sys/power/state say suspending to console(s) done, that's all |
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| 17:30.32 | dcordes | cr2: did you look through the dzo patch? |
| 17:31.15 | dcordes | I wonder how audio works. there is no new fifo |
| 17:41.13 | dcordes | hmm I need the at send working first anyway |
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| 18:26.51 | Cetlinac | lol |
| 18:27.09 | Cetlinac | NickServ |
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| 18:49.12 | jerry_ | goxboxlive_: are you there ? |
| 18:54.02 | paulproteus | jerry_, Hey, what's up? |
| 18:54.23 | jerry_ | paulproteus: Now I'm working on MIO A701 :) |
| 18:54.27 | paulproteus | (-: |
| 18:55.22 | jerry_ | paulproteus: ASIC3 on HTC universal made me crasy |
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| 18:56.40 | paulproteus | Cool - btw, your SSH key might have been revoked due to this Debian SSL bug. |
| 18:56.44 | paulproteus | Still going the Qtopia route? |
| 18:57.02 | paulproteus | OpenMoko is also dropping maintenance of their GTK based apps, so Qtopia seems the way to go. |
| 18:58.21 | paulproteus | jerry_, What's the role of the ASIC3? |
| 18:58.42 | cr2 | jerry_: the hh.org mio701 kernel is a bit broken. |
| 18:58.58 | jerry_ | paulproteus: On Universal, managing many components on the phone |
| 18:59.01 | cr2 | jerry_: the 2.6.25 version should be better |
| 18:59.36 | jerry_ | cr2: yes the hh is not the good one. Diogene31 works to integrate in the standard linux kernel git |
| 18:59.50 | jerry_ | the 2.6.26 rc3 works not so bad |
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| 19:03.01 | cr2 | jerry_: asic3 code needs some major cleanup. |
| 19:03.18 | jerry_ | cr2: I'm agree with this |
| 19:03.25 | cr2 | jerry_: and asic3_mmc is not compatible with the 2.6.24+ |
| 19:03.51 | cr2 | jerry_: i'm waiting when pH5 will be in a better mood :) |
| 19:05.19 | BabelO | cr2: somthing funny :) i desactivate lot of code in htcartemis board file, if i desactivate lcd_init all seem to works, except usb , something is wrong |
| 19:06.03 | cr2 | BabelO: maybe you setup the usb io_conf in a wrong way ? |
| 19:07.47 | BabelO | cr2: no it is dma related i think |
| 19:07.48 | cr2 | BabelO: the arte spl is a bit strange. i guess the data at 0x0 changes sometimes :) |
| 19:07.56 | cr2 | ok. |
| 19:14.37 | paulproteus | jerry_, For userspace what are you using? |
| 19:14.56 | jerry_ | paulproteus: what do u mean by "userspace" ? |
| 19:15.06 | paulproteus | I mean, other than the kernel, what software are you running? |
| 19:15.22 | jerry_ | paulproteus: open embedded and Qtopia |
| 19:15.36 | paulproteus | How is battery life? |
| 19:15.39 | jerry_ | paulproteus: I'm working on Qtopia now |
| 19:16.13 | jerry_ | paulproteus: was better in the past I think and I have my MIO only from few days |
| 19:16.24 | jerry_ | paulproteus: And I'm working on battery indicator at this time |
| 19:16.37 | jerry_ | paulproteus: At minimum two days I think |
| 19:16.42 | jerry_ | paulproteus: probably more |
| 19:16.46 | paulproteus | Well, that's plenty. |
| 19:17.23 | jerry_ | paulproteus: Yes MIO works really fine. But need many improvements in userland |
| 19:17.31 | jerry_ | paulproteus: to be fully usable |
| 19:20.13 | paulproteus | What are the problems now, and what works? |
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| 19:49.05 | cr2 | BabelO: GPIOB3 removed ? |
| 19:49.39 | BabelO | cr2: where do you see it ? |
| 19:49.56 | goxboxlive_ | BabelO: zecke where really mad on TT? :-) |
| 19:50.16 | goxboxlive_ | He has been it since the Opie devs. |
| 19:50.50 | cr2 | goxboxlive_: ??? |
| 19:50.58 | cr2 | BabelO: in the wiki diffs |
| 19:51.33 | cr2 | goxboxlive_: you are cutting wires these days ? :) |
| 19:53.07 | goxboxlive_ | cr2: :-) No i ordered some speaker cables form a german store, and i needed them to make the so they fit my system. I haven got the cables yet. I guess they are at the factory. |
| 19:53.25 | goxboxlive_ | The cables where half the price copmared to the Norwegian market |
| 19:53.43 | no2chem|mobile | hmm |
| 19:53.47 | no2chem|mobile | cr2... |
| 19:53.59 | no2chem|mobile | you wrote titanmemorymap huh?.. |
| 19:54.33 | cr2 | no2chem|mobile: many moons ago |
| 19:54.35 | BabelO | cr2: no B3 it seem |
| 19:55.05 | no2chem|mobile | ah, its been pretty useful |
| 19:55.07 | cr2 | no2chem|mobile: there are some differences to kaiser, but the MSM hardware is better documented on the kaiser pages |
| 19:55.17 | no2chem|mobile | oh |
| 19:55.24 | no2chem|mobile | theres a kaisermemorymap as well? |
| 19:56.01 | cr2 | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=KaiserResearch |
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| 19:56.37 | no2chem|mobile | interesting |
| 19:56.51 | no2chem|mobile | so what do you do with all your research? linux support? |
| 19:56.56 | cr2 | yes |
| 19:56.57 | goxboxlive_ | cr2: are you living in Berlin? |
| 19:57.12 | cr2 | goxboxlive_: no. ask pH5 |
| 19:57.19 | goxboxlive_ | cr2: ok |
| 19:57.56 | no2chem|mobile | ah... i was rewriting drivers and found your stuff useful.. |
| 19:58.12 | no2chem|mobile | one question: do you know how to control the clock?.. |
| 19:58.12 | goxboxlive_ | cr2: i am going to berlin in midle of september. I thought you live there. |
| 19:58.31 | cr2 | lol. you have the wince source :) |
| 19:58.31 | goxboxlive_ | i grav a beer with ph5 then :-) |
| 19:58.36 | no2chem|mobile | heh |
| 19:58.50 | no2chem|mobile | well, i have the original drivers to disassemble, yes |
| 19:58.59 | cr2 | goxboxlive_: i may visit oslo in the end of july |
| 19:59.20 | goxboxlive_ | cr2: in end of july i am in Spain |
| 19:59.30 | goxboxlive_ | the klast week in July |
| 19:59.36 | no2chem|mobile | i rewrote msm_clk.dll, but it turns out it only has a stub to control clock, that doesn't actually do much |
| 19:59.38 | cr2 | no2chem|mobile: cpu clock of the device clocks ? |
| 19:59.42 | no2chem|mobile | cpu |
| 20:00.02 | paulproteus | no2chem|mobile, Are you rewriting these as Windows drivers or for Linux? |
| 20:00.04 | cr2 | no2chem|mobile: we are not that far yet. |
| 20:00.07 | no2chem|mobile | ah |
| 20:00.21 | no2chem|mobile | paulproteus .. .for windows =/ |
| 20:00.36 | paulproteus | no2chem|mobile, Interesting - are you going to release source code, and what is your motivation? |
| 20:00.59 | cr2 | no2chem|mobile: btw, the oemsbl looks like thumb code ? |
| 20:01.01 | no2chem|mobile | eh, maybe to have a bsp for my device eventually (titan), and yes |
| 20:01.17 | no2chem|mobile | cr2 - i haven't looked yet at oemsbl |
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| 20:02.00 | cr2 | ok |
| 20:02.04 | no2chem|mobile | im guessing your main goal is to get radio to work? |
| 20:02.30 | cr2 | i need to understand the smem differences between titan and kaiser. |
| 20:02.47 | cr2 | the AT rx works, but the AT tx does not. |
| 20:03.56 | no2chem|mobile | ah |
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| 20:06.47 | cr2 | LCD. ok. |
| 20:07.10 | no2chem|mobile | hmm |
| 20:07.22 | no2chem|mobile | QTV is contolled by aDSP? |
| 20:07.38 | cr2 | qtv uses adsp. i think |
| 20:07.50 | no2chem|mobile | hmm interesting, i have yet to make qtv work for titan |
| 20:08.02 | no2chem|mobile | seems like implementation is different in msm7500 or something |
| 20:08.09 | cr2 | maybe. |
| 20:08.54 | no2chem|mobile | how are you figuring stuff out though, .. disassembly of windows drivers, or poking around in haret? |
| 20:09.06 | cr2 | both |
| 20:09.21 | no2chem|mobile | ah ok |
| 20:09.46 | cr2 | msm is pita, because there are no cpu docs. |
| 20:09.57 | cr2 | pxa was much better. |
| 20:09.59 | no2chem|mobile | yeah, or we would know how to control clock already =/ |
| 20:10.27 | no2chem|mobile | maybe you can pretend you are about to design the device and trick qualcomm into sending them |
| 20:10.28 | no2chem|mobile | =p |
| 20:10.46 | goxboxlive_ | booting debian on uni |
| 20:10.50 | no2chem|mobile | but i guess, whats the fun in that |
| 20:11.21 | no2chem|mobile | anyway, i'll let you know when i get more drivers rewritten |
| 20:11.29 | no2chem|mobile | maybe you'll find it useful |
| 20:13.19 | cr2 | ok |
| 20:13.42 | cr2 | goxboxlive_: install qt4-core, and check if the qt4 programs work :) |
| 20:14.05 | BabelO | goxboxlive_: debian ? |
| 20:14.49 | cr2 | no2chem|mobile: it's certainly interesting, because the androids are not going to control the clock(s) too, so we need to work it out ourselves. |
| 20:15.05 | goxboxlive_ | BabelO: yes :-) I have done it before,, but this time it's a newer version |
| 20:15.07 | no2chem|mobile | oh |
| 20:15.12 | goxboxlive_ | i had ncursor working :-) |
| 20:15.16 | no2chem|mobile | cr2: one thing olipro told me |
| 20:15.24 | no2chem|mobile | spl sets clock to 200 MHz |
| 20:15.35 | no2chem|mobile | haven't looked at it yet |
| 20:15.55 | goxboxlive_ | I'll test getting Qtopia on it |
| 20:16.16 | BabelO | goxboxlive_: but angstrom base isn't already debian ? |
| 20:16.26 | cr2 | no2chem|mobile: we need to make the core things like SD and AT rx/tx first, so we are not looking too deep at the clock and power_ic things. |
| 20:16.48 | no2chem|mobile | ah, i see |
| 20:17.08 | cr2 | no2chem|mobile: and when you are changing the cpu clock, you'd take care of the voltages too. via power_ic |
| 20:17.12 | no2chem|mobile | well, without messing with the clock, is it set at 385/400 when you boot into linux? |
| 20:17.19 | no2chem|mobile | actually, you are booting from wince, no? |
| 20:17.31 | cr2 | no2chem|mobile: linux does not touch these wince settings. |
| 20:17.32 | cr2 | yes. |
| 20:17.54 | no2chem|mobile | ah i was thinking maybe if you booted from the bootloader maybe clock would still be at 200 |
| 20:17.55 | no2chem|mobile | heh |
| 20:18.54 | cr2 | no2chem|mobile: i think it's possible to boot linux as "firmware uploader" from spl |
| 20:19.05 | no2chem|mobile | yes |
| 20:19.05 | cr2 | no2chem|mobile: but then i need to know how to sign it properly. |
| 20:19.11 | no2chem|mobile | set kernelflags.. |
| 20:19.12 | no2chem|mobile | hmm |
| 20:19.19 | no2chem|mobile | ask olipro, he knows how |
| 20:19.22 | cr2 | ok |
| 20:19.33 | no2chem|mobile | i removed fwupdate from my images though |
| 20:19.34 | no2chem|mobile | heh |
| 20:19.41 | no2chem|mobile | thought it was useless =/ |
| 20:20.50 | goxboxlive_ | BabelO: it's close AFAIR |
| 20:21.32 | goxboxlive_ | I am also flashing my NEO now. Havent done that for moths :-) |
| 20:26.38 | cr2 | goxboxlive_: what about neo gps ? |
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| 20:27.16 | BabelO | lol, computer reboot fast :) |
| 20:27.33 | BabelO | goxboxlive_: i want ot reboot artemis, but wrong console |
| 20:27.49 | BabelO | goxboxlive_: did you see my screenshot yesturday ? about qlandkarteM ? |
| 20:31.55 | cr2 | goxboxlive_: you have mio701 ? |
| 20:33.48 | goxboxlive_ | cr2: i works, but i haven tested the NEO gps for months now. |
| 20:34.14 | goxboxlive_ | BabelO: no, what screenshoot |
| 20:34.23 | goxboxlive_ | cr2: yes i have a mio too :-) |
| 20:35.12 | BabelO | goxboxlive_: http://linuxbox2.free.fr/screen.png |
| 20:35.51 | goxboxlive_ | BabelO: i c, new menus |
| 20:36.06 | BabelO | goxboxlive_: not new, only for small screen |
| 20:36.22 | goxboxlive_ | ok |
| 20:36.38 | goxboxlive_ | i am trying out openmoko QTopia X11 on my Neo now |
| 20:36.53 | cr2 | goxboxlive_: i don't see any device worth buying anymore |
| 20:37.12 | goxboxlive_ | cr2: me neither. I am still using my A780 as main phone :-) |
| 20:37.29 | cr2 | goxboxlive_: http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/GoPalP4225 |
| 20:37.34 | cr2 | goxboxlive_: me too :) |
| 20:37.43 | goxboxlive_ | cr2: i thin the gta02 will be a killer. vga, gps, wifi |
| 20:38.25 | cr2 | 2.8" vga ? |
| 20:38.48 | cr2 | and no keyboard ? |
| 20:39.23 | cr2 | goxboxlive_: it uses the same accelerometer as in athena |
| 20:39.38 | goxboxlive_ | cr2: ok, then you will have the source for it |
| 20:39.57 | cr2 | used over spi, and not i2c. |
| 20:40.03 | cr2 | so i need to patch it. |
| 20:40.18 | goxboxlive_ | 2.8 isent that bad. I really enjoy my vga screen on my neo, but everything lse is so lousy |
| 20:40.22 | goxboxlive_ | ok |
| 20:40.38 | cr2 | goxboxlive_: 2.8" vga is insane |
| 20:40.46 | lama | wvga 3inch has same dpi |
| 20:40.59 | cr2 | goxboxlive_: a780 is 2.8" qvga, do you really see any difference ? |
| 20:41.50 | goxboxlive_ | cr2: yes, it's two diffrent workds |
| 20:41.52 | goxboxlive_ | worlds |
| 20:42.17 | cr2 | ok. |
| 20:42.26 | lama | i can easily use rdp with wvga |
| 20:42.34 | cr2 | i'm quite happy with 5" vga on athena. |
| 20:42.34 | lama | try that wit qq |
| 20:42.43 | lama | qvga |
| 20:43.10 | goxboxlive_ | of course, 5" is outstanding. But you have to use wince with it |
| 20:43.35 | cr2 | ? |
| 20:43.48 | cr2 | i use your qtopia |
| 20:43.50 | lama | 5" and vga only it should be full hd |
| 20:43.59 | lama | :) |
| 20:44.14 | lama | can you maka calls with qtopia |
| 20:44.23 | lama | or is pda only |
| 20:44.28 | cr2 | lama: not on athena yet. |
| 20:44.47 | cr2 | qtopia is "phone only" |
| 20:45.03 | cr2 | lama: it works very well on universal. |
| 20:45.49 | lama | everything suxs :) |
| 20:46.15 | lama | hope android phones will be good ones |
| 20:49.25 | cr2 | lama: it's no fun to use an android phone. |
| 20:50.02 | lama | why? too easy? |
| 20:50.18 | goxboxlive_ | cr2: but with Qtpia only some basic stuff works right? |
| 20:53.14 | goxboxlive_ | cr2: this si really something for you. The new debian distro for Uni has a ncursor dialer :-D |
| 20:53.30 | cr2 | goxboxlive_: really ? |
| 20:53.39 | goxboxlive_ | :-) yes, so cool |
| 20:53.46 | lama | lol |
| 20:53.50 | goxboxlive_ | it's blue and grey like the debian installer |
| 20:54.04 | lama | too easy |
| 20:54.10 | cr2 | goxboxlive_: if x11+qt4 will work, i'll switch to it on the 128MB machines. |
| 20:54.12 | goxboxlive_ | too great |
| 20:54.14 | lama | echo is better |
| 20:54.41 | goxboxlive_ | cr2: i am runing the x11 and qt4 now. It exist in OE |
| 20:54.43 | lama | what 128mb machines? |
| 20:54.46 | goxboxlive_ | as images |
| 20:55.35 | cr2 | lama: i'll prefer a good color ncurses app for many purposes. |
| 20:55.48 | cr2 | lama: with 128MB ram. |
| 20:55.55 | cr2 | lama: hima/ba/athena |
| 20:56.37 | lama | i like ncurses but dont believe it might be usefull as a dialer |
| 20:56.57 | cr2 | why not ? |
| 20:58.28 | lama | dialer should be user friendly |
| 20:58.41 | lama | ncurses arent user friendly |
| 20:58.57 | lama | it is geeks solution |
| 20:59.51 | lama | on the other hand with vga device it would be great to have console ncourses enviroment for phones |
| 21:00.54 | lama | does emacs have dialler module? :) |
| 21:01.17 | cr2 | lol |
| 21:01.26 | cr2 | write a .el file |
| 21:03.05 | lama | but seriously emacs wouldee to difficult withou alt ctrl esc keys |
| 21:03.34 | lama | or maybe softkeys could be remaped |
| 21:04.15 | cr2 | lama: it's not a problem on uni/athena, who have a 64+ button keyboard. |
| 21:04.37 | cr2 | to redefine some silly m$ keys for a good purpose. |
| 21:05.07 | lama | does richard stallman use mobile phone if yes there would be one user at least |
| 21:05.26 | cr2 | no, he says it's a personal tracking device :) |
| 21:05.33 | cr2 | and he is right ;) |
| 21:05.37 | lama | ah |
| 21:05.48 | lama | but who cares |
| 21:06.19 | cr2 | google cares |
| 21:23.33 | goxboxlive_ | :-) apt-get update on universal |
| 21:23.44 | goxboxlive_ | with wlan |
| 21:29.17 | goxboxlive_ | i'm installing xfce now over wlan. i have downloaded over 100 packages over wlan without fail |
| 21:29.31 | goxboxlive_ | paulproteus: you shopuld really try out debian 8titchy) |
| 21:30.50 | goxboxlive_ | 159 packages |
| 21:32.38 | goxboxlive_ | ok i downloaded 191 packeges (80.4MB) over wlan with universal |
| 21:33.14 | goxboxlive_ | without failing |
| 21:33.29 | goxboxlive_ | unbelivable |
| 21:33.51 | marex | impressive :) |
| 21:34.00 | goxboxlive_ | hi marex |
| 21:34.03 | cr2 | marex: wm9750 :) |
| 21:34.04 | marex | hi goxboxlive_ :) |
| 21:34.27 | marex | cr2, damned ... exam in two days time, dont blackmail me you damned blackmailer ;E~ |
| 21:34.31 | goxboxlive_ | debian realy rules on universal |
| 21:34.33 | cr2 | LOL |
| 21:34.44 | goxboxlive_ | :-) |
| 21:35.08 | goxboxlive_ | marex: exam what term? |
| 21:35.10 | marex | is so depressed :-( world around me is so happy and possitive, that leaves me in depression |
| 21:35.25 | marex | goxboxlive_, monday - exam from Programming II |
| 21:36.01 | goxboxlive_ | damn , no more space left on the device. I have to reinstall |
| 21:36.09 | cr2 | lol |
| 21:36.21 | marex | goxboxlive_, that's also very depressive :( |
| 21:36.32 | lama | rotfl |
| 21:36.39 | goxboxlive_ | yes it is. But i have a couple of 4GB crads |
| 21:36.43 | cr2 | goxboxlive_: it's because of the stupid package info and docs ? |
| 21:37.16 | goxboxlive_ | cr2: i dont think so. Because it's a special edited debian version for embedded devices. |
| 21:37.16 | marex | apt-get install apt ... update apt, it will show you how much space will be requiered after unpacking |
| 21:37.21 | goxboxlive_ | titchy |
| 21:37.37 | marex | also /var/cache/apt contains shitload of packages ... apt doesnt delete them |
| 21:37.46 | marex | goxboxlive_, ah I see |
| 21:37.59 | marex | goxboxlive_, tits_y :) |
| 21:38.14 | goxboxlive_ | :-) |
| 21:41.57 | marex | that titsy may be actually usable on N560 pretty well |
| 21:42.03 | marex | (no blackmailing please) |
| 21:42.31 | cr2 | marex: yes, with working sound. |
| 21:42.48 | marex | cr2, even without it ;) |
| 21:46.08 | goxboxlive_ | have made a new sd card now. extracting |
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| 22:01.57 | goxboxlive_ | hmm my universalk cant read sdhc cards |
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| 22:04.17 | cmonex | hey |
| 22:04.31 | goxboxlive_ | hi |
| 22:06.53 | cmonex | hi all |
| 22:06.59 | cmonex | cr2 you asked something? |
| 22:13.07 | marex | cmonex, hello |
| 22:13.18 | marex | http://youtube.com/watch?v=NOh4KdVd0uM nice :-) |
| 22:14.10 | marex | cr2, flash doesnt run on non-x86 devices, so you can watch it with sound ... if you dont have wm9750 on your PC :/ |
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| 23:04.42 | martin__ | dcordes: I reported where i'd got to late last night |
| 23:04.53 | martin__ | should be in the logs |
| 23:05.02 | martin__ | nothing further to report today |
| 23:05.08 | martin__ | i'll continue tomorrow evening... |
| 23:10.18 | marex | well then this is really something ... dvd drive in my lenovo t61 refused to play dvd |
| 23:10.26 | marex | (original dvd with movie) |
| 23:10.40 | marex | matsushita dvd drives are really something |
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| 23:27.39 | dwaradzyn | damn, i can't get android kernel to boot on my polaris. i succeeded compiling it from two sources (git.android.com and git.linuxtogo.org/home/groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git) |
| 23:28.34 | dwaradzyn | i tried some available .configs and everytime i try to boot zImage created on my machine it hangs after Go Go Go... |
| 23:30.29 | dwaradzyn | some folks on xda-dev reported that my kernel does boot on kaiser (example: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2214804&postcount=446) |
| 23:32.04 | marex | make polaris_defconfig ? |
| 23:32.16 | dwaradzyn | i have no idea what could be wrong... latest kernel from http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/ boots everytime for me |
| 23:32.29 | dwaradzyn | even if it was intended for htc vogue |
| 23:32.51 | marex | try compiling the vogue kernel then ;) |
| 23:32.57 | dwaradzyn | marex: i did make msm_defconfig, i'll try right off |
| 23:33.24 | dwaradzyn | yes i tried .config from the vogue kernel that boots |
| 23:33.47 | marex | does that boot ? |
| 23:34.12 | dwaradzyn | no |
| 23:34.22 | dwaradzyn | make polaris_defconfig: Can't find default configuration "arch/arm/configs/polaris_defconfig"! |
| 23:39.15 | dwaradzyn | i think the closest to polaris/kaiser hardware is the arch/arm/configs/msm_defconfig |
| 23:53.26 | BabelO | mastill around ? |
| 23:57.53 | BabelO | oups marex ? |
