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| 04:42.10 | paulproteus | Howdy goxboxlive. |
| 04:42.38 | goxboxlive | hi there |
| 04:54.46 | ellisway | mornin paulproteus goxboxlive |
| 04:55.02 | paulproteus | Howdy pardners. |
| 04:57.42 | ellisway | when did qtopia remove the sources |
| 05:00.18 | dcordes | qtopia removed the sources? |
| 05:03.31 | ellisway | ftp://ftp.trolltech.com/qtopia/ |
| 05:04.42 | ellisway | just a readme saying they removed them due to copyright inconsistencies |
| 05:05.06 | dcordes | nokia found them |
| 05:05.09 | dcordes | lol |
| 05:05.30 | ellisway | how u getting on with the kaiser dcordes |
| 05:06.00 | ellisway | i sent mine back after less than a week |
| 05:06.26 | ellisway | now waiting on tmobile to get the new ameo |
| 05:07.23 | dcordes | ellisway: it's a pita at the moment. nothing happens. I know not enough about kernel development other people seem not so motivated |
| 05:07.49 | ellisway | i`m pretty much in the same state |
| 05:08.00 | ellisway | but i`ve done some kernel dev work in the past |
| 05:08.11 | dcordes | in the same state? about what device? |
| 05:08.37 | ellisway | i`m not doing a device atm |
| 05:08.53 | ellisway | drivers for my devices are pretty much done |
| 05:08.57 | ellisway | universal |
| 05:09.01 | ellisway | magician |
| 05:09.28 | ellisway | i`ll do some haret dumps etc once i get the new ameo |
| 05:09.40 | dcordes | what is the real name? |
| 05:09.42 | ellisway | but other than the htc devices |
| 05:09.53 | ellisway | the other phones i have are all motorola |
| 05:09.59 | ellisway | all with linux on them |
| 05:10.14 | ellisway | a760 a780 and a910 |
| 05:10.36 | ellisway | although getting a shell on the a910 is proving to be a pita |
| 05:10.51 | dcordes | get openmoko |
| 05:11.22 | dcordes | I think all the ezx motos are in openembedded |
| 05:11.36 | ellisway | and the gps on my 780 doesn`t get a sat fix |
| 05:12.32 | ellisway | although cr2 might be the 1 for me to have a chat with about that |
| 05:12.49 | ellisway | i seem to recall him playing about a bit with the gps stuff on the 780 |
| 05:13.14 | ellisway | still using the my universal as my main device though |
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| 05:46.20 | paulproteus | ellisway, FWIW I have a copy of all the Qtopia snapshot tarballs, as does my git repository. |
| 05:47.21 | paulproteus | reads this README_QTOPIA_GPL.txt |
| 05:47.29 | paulproteus | Huh, interesting.. |
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| 10:20.50 | dcordes | msm_proc_comm breaks kaiser boot the way dzo configured it for vogue. http://rafb.net/p/LR1fNG18.html that's the difference between the code with dzo's proc comm changes and the current htc-msm head |
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| 14:37.00 | pikapika | hi |
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| 16:10.00 | Guest55041 | hey dcordes |
| 16:10.14 | AstainHellbring | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=399762 |
| 16:11.54 | Guest55041 | what's that? |
| 16:12.14 | Guest55041 | or ... how do ROMs work? |
| 16:12.25 | AstainHellbring | Roms are the OS on the device |
| 16:12.41 | Guest55041 | do I just need to find a linux/android ROM for Htc NIKI and then use the RUU to flash it on? |
| 16:12.58 | AstainHellbring | no |
| 16:13.05 | AstainHellbring | android at runs only via haret |
| 16:13.08 | dcordes | AstainHellbring: aaah a rom flasher for linux |
| 16:13.16 | AstainHellbring | this is for the guys on here that only run linux |
| 16:13.18 | dcordes | hi Guest55041 |
| 16:13.24 | AstainHellbring | you like eh dcordes? |
| 16:14.05 | dcordes | AstainHellbring: yes |
| 16:14.13 | jchang | ah okay |
| 16:14.58 | dcordes | jchang: so did you finish the gpio wiki? |
| 16:15.39 | jchang | i'm uploading what i've found |
| 16:17.43 | dcordes | jchang: clean up the table before so you only fill in proofed values |
| 16:17.57 | dcordes | to avoid confusionm |
| 16:18.31 | jchang | yeah i've removed everything else |
| 16:20.07 | dcordes | perfect |
| 16:23.21 | jchang | sorry, formatting is taking a while |
| 16:32.41 | jchang | alright ... i just did button presses and touch screen movement |
| 16:32.45 | jchang | but i've updated the page |
| 16:32.51 | jchang | and some cam related ones |
| 16:44.55 | jchang | so what should I do now? |
| 16:51.30 | dcordes | install linux |
| 16:51.37 | dcordes | on your computer |
| 16:56.30 | jchang | and then what? |
| 16:58.27 | dcordes | dive into the kernel source |
| 16:58.41 | jchang | could you send me the link for that again? |
| 16:59.16 | dcordes | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396782 |
| 16:59.24 | dcordes | it has a description on how to fetch the git repository |
| 16:59.49 | dcordes | you should be working in this git, not in the vogue tree because niki and vogue are more similar (same chipset) |
| 17:01.03 | jchang | wait ... so i should be using the vogue git? or the kaiser git? |
| 17:01.13 | dcordes | kaiser git from the link |
| 17:01.24 | dcordes | 18:59 < dcordes> you should be working in this git, not in the vogue tree because niki and vogue are more similar (same chipset) |
| 17:01.29 | dcordes | oops. I meant |
| 17:01.38 | dcordes | you should be working in this git, not in the vogue tree because niki and kaiser are more similar (same chipset) |
| 17:01.42 | jchang | oh okay |
| 17:02.01 | jchang | do you have any pointers on where to dig with regards to the kernel source? |
| 17:02.18 | dcordes | arch/arm/mach-msm/board-kaiser-keypad.c |
| 17:02.51 | dcordes | you can use the wiki page Kaiser_GPIO to compare with the gpios in this file |
| 17:02.58 | jchang | okay |
| 17:03.17 | dcordes | and then in detail I don't know. Maybe get there first |
| 17:05.29 | jchang | it takes a while just to get the git |
| 17:05.42 | jchang | is that correct? or is it just my network |
| 17:14.22 | dcordes | correct |
| 17:16.43 | dcordes | jchang: bbl. look a bit at the code and gpios. there should be some documentation on this in your kernel source root in Documentation.. |
| 17:18.33 | jchang | alright ... it's taking a long time to download so |
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| 17:40.31 | dcordes | hi pH5 |
| 17:40.56 | pH5 | hi dcordes |
| 17:41.04 | pH5 | how is kaiser sd? |
| 17:41.41 | dcordes | pH5: I was about to ping you about that a minute ago. Tried to add the proc_comm from vogue. Since that, the kernel does not boot anymore |
| 17:42.44 | dcordes | I made a diff of that. Maybe you can take a look? http://rafb.net/p/LR1fNG18.html |
| 17:42.44 | pH5 | :/ |
| 17:43.19 | dcordes | http://rafb.net/p/LR1fNG18.txt |
| 17:44.21 | pH5 | are you sure the shared ram base and offsets are all correct? |
| 17:44.52 | dcordes | no I just copied it. Didn't know what to take care off |
| 17:45.09 | pH5 | and what about that INT_A9_M2A_6, is that the same on kaiser? |
| 17:45.10 | dcordes | clock.c just wen through fine and the rest I applied manually |
| 17:45.23 | pH5 | I guess you have to do some more haret research then to make sure it is correct. |
| 17:45.45 | dcordes | where are the sharead ram base and offsets? |
| 17:46.04 | pH5 | Right now it probably overwrites some wrong memory area, that could crash the ARM9 |
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| 17:46.35 | pH5 | MSM_SHARED_RAM_BASE, the 0xfc100 offset and PC_COMMAND, PC_STATUS etc. |
| 17:47.03 | dcordes | that is defined in msm_iomap.h I think |
| 17:47.08 | pH5 | it would be nice if you could somehow check with haret where this proc_comm stuff is taking place |
| 17:47.44 | dcordes | #define MSM_SHARED_RAM_PHYS 0x01F00000 that is correct |
| 17:48.11 | dcordes | but I'm not sure about the offset |
| 17:48.19 | dcordes | in the patch in clock.c |
| 17:48.31 | pH5 | it's certainly different on vogue and kaiser |
| 17:48.31 | dcordes | 0xfc100; |
| 17:49.06 | dcordes | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:49.20 | dcordes | that's what memory map says about this offset |
| 17:49.51 | dcordes | so we have no info here. Since I can't trace the smem in hared it's fscked |
| 17:49.58 | dcordes | as marbalo said we need to fix this |
| 17:50.04 | dcordes | s/marbalo/marbalon/ |
| 17:50.29 | dcordes | pH5: do you have any idea why it's impossible to trace it? |
| 17:52.36 | pH5 | nope, I'm no expert in that MMU area. |
| 17:53.24 | dcordes | obviously nobody knows that |
| 17:53.50 | dcordes | a pity that we are stuck on such a rather small problem |
| 17:55.01 | dcordes | I bet Kevin2 could fix it easily if he had access to a device |
| 17:55.27 | dcordes | pH5: what I don't understand is why dzo can find out all the registers easily on the vogue |
| 17:56.19 | pH5 | dcordes: can he trace? |
| 17:56.49 | dcordes | I'm not sure. But how should he have found out the registers w/o mmutrace? |
| 17:57.46 | pH5 | talk to him about it :) |
| 17:57.52 | pH5 | disassembly would be a possibility |
| 17:58.21 | dcordes | I think we talked about it already. Think he had no problems with haret |
| 17:58.41 | pH5 | hm. then there are differences in the mmu setup? |
| 17:59.43 | dcordes | would that be visible in dump mmu? |
| 18:00.30 | pH5 | I would think so. |
| 18:01.23 | dcordes | ok I will ask dzo again how he got the registers and for a vogue mmu dump |
| 18:07.16 | dcordes | got to go. bbl |
| 18:07.32 | pH5 | later then |
| 18:20.11 | jasta | is dzo on here? |
| 18:20.19 | jasta | or does he frequent here? |
| 18:23.35 | pH5 | never seen him here |
| 18:23.49 | pH5 | although I'm just a CET/CEST evening regular |
| 18:32.56 | tsdogs | ~seen dzo |
| 18:33.12 | apt | dzo <n=dzo@121.98.128.127> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 10d 8h 33m 3s ago, saying: 'I don't know, you should be able to mmutrace i2c commands on titan though.'. |
| 18:34.07 | pH5 | otoh that does sound like he was here :) |
| 18:34.25 | tsdogs | :) |
| 18:34.54 | tsdogs | ~seen cr2 |
| 18:34.55 | apt | cr2 <n=konversa@crpl6.physik.uni-wuppertal.de> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 10d 19h 41m 30s ago, saying: 'tsdogs: good night'. |
| 18:35.03 | tsdogs | ~seen cr2_ |
| 18:35.04 | apt | cr2_ <n=konversa@crpl6.physik.uni-wuppertal.de> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 4d 23h 9m 17s ago, saying: 'pH5: oe update ?'. |
| 18:35.28 | tsdogs | pH5: where's cr2? vacation? |
| 18:36.00 | kiozen | tsdogs: think he is pretty busy with real work, at least he was grumbling about it a few days ago :) |
| 18:36.40 | tsdogs | kiozen: thx, I wondered if he ever did some real work :) |
| 18:36.49 | kiozen | lol |
| 18:36.55 | tsdogs | ok bbl |
| 19:29.48 | jchang | hi, i've got a question with regards to getting the kernel source |
| 19:30.03 | jchang | i'm following the instructions on this page: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396782 |
| 19:30.16 | jchang | and i've gotten the past the git clone stage |
| 19:30.28 | jchang | but when i try git checkout |
| 19:30.57 | jchang | it says error: Entry 'net/ipv4/netfilter/ipt_ECN.c' not uptodate. Cannot merge. |
| 19:31.15 | jchang | is there a way to update everything in my git directory? or how should I fix this problem? |
| 19:41.31 | dcordes | hi |
| 19:42.14 | jchang | hey dcordes |
| 19:42.20 | dcordes | jchang: sorry I did not come across this error before |
| 19:42.30 | pH5 | jchang: do you have local changes in that file? |
| 19:42.32 | dcordes | people checkout well from latest head |
| 19:43.09 | jchang | wait, the instructions here describing checking out from the branch |
| 19:43.15 | jchang | the htc-msm branch |
| 19:43.17 | jchang | is that correct? |
| 19:43.27 | dcordes | Internetzer in my kaffeine |
| 19:43.31 | jchang | i just finished getting everything from git clone git://git.linuxtogo.org/home/groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git |
| 19:43.42 | dcordes | jchang: yese htc-msm is correct |
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| 19:43.57 | dcordes | I have a local file with instructions let me look |
| 19:44.24 | dcordes | git clone git://git.linuxtogo.org/home/groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git |
| 19:44.26 | dcordes | git checkout -b htc-msm origin/htc-msm |
| 19:44.33 | pH5 | you don't have to clone the whole repo actually, if you just want htc-msm. but if you already have everything, fine. no harm done. |
| 19:44.35 | dcordes | always works here. so did you change the file? |
| 19:44.46 | jchang | i haven't done anything yet |
| 19:44.49 | dcordes | pH5: did you receive my query? |
| 19:44.50 | jchang | i just finished downloading everything |
| 19:45.11 | pH5 | dcordes: which query? |
| 19:45.24 | dcordes | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:45.26 | pH5 | "got to go. bbl" is the last I heard from you |
| 19:46.00 | pH5 | nope.. |
| 19:46.08 | dcordes | odd |
| 19:46.19 | jchang | wait ... i'm just going to start all over |
| 19:46.26 | jchang | pH5: what should I do? |
| 19:46.51 | dcordes | jchang: try the two lines I pasted above |
| 19:47.09 | pH5 | jchang: check your tree |
| 19:47.15 | pH5 | 1) any local changes? (git diff) |
| 19:47.42 | pH5 | 2) where am I? (git branch -a) |
| 19:48.43 | jchang | when i typed in git diff nothing shows up and the prompt appears again |
| 19:48.53 | pH5 | which is good |
| 19:49.06 | pH5 | no local changes |
| 19:49.19 | jchang | actually hold up ... i was in android-kernel as opposed to kernel |
| 19:49.20 | pH5 | otoh then I don't understand that error message :/ |
| 19:49.22 | jchang | i've moved into kernel |
| 19:49.25 | jchang | and tried again |
| 19:49.28 | jchang | the git branch -a |
| 19:49.38 | jchang | gives me * master |
| 19:49.54 | jchang | and a bunch of origin directories |
| 19:50.01 | jchang | actually so git diff does show several things |
| 19:50.01 | pH5 | ok, so you see origin/htc-msm in that list? |
| 19:50.05 | jchang | but I haven't touched these files before |
| 19:50.59 | dcordes | pH5: dzo told me to go look in the kaiser mmu dump what logical addresses map to map to phys 0x01f00000 (the smem base). I found three addresses that map to it. He said there might be problems tracing 4k pages. |
| 19:51.19 | jchang | yes i see htc-msm |
| 19:52.16 | dcordes | does it have an * ? |
| 19:52.24 | jchang | no, only master has a star |
| 19:52.27 | jchang | the rest don't have stars |
| 19:52.38 | jchang | how do i revert the diff files back to their original state? |
| 19:53.03 | pH5 | jchang: git-reset --hard master |
| 19:53.22 | pH5 | this sounded like you had some operation on the working tree canceled midway. |
| 19:53.33 | dcordes | Kevin2: are you aware of any problems with haret tracing 4K mappings? |
| 19:53.40 | jchang | git-reset --hard master |
| 19:54.18 | dcordes | Kevin2: dzo hinted me that might be the problem why I can't mmutrace the htckaiser smem mappings correctly |
| 19:58.01 | dcordes | jchang: bug martin__ I think he built the htc-msm tree recently and it went fine |
| 19:58.08 | jchang | it still gives me some trouble |
| 19:58.16 | dcordes | still the same error? |
| 19:58.28 | jchang | it still says i have differences in xt_connmark.h |
| 19:58.46 | jchang | and ipt_connmark.h |
| 19:58.48 | dcordes | *_* WE never touched this |
| 19:59.08 | jchang | darn, so there's no way I could just get a copy from you guys or something? |
| 19:59.41 | dcordes | of course you can copy it but if you don't have the branch locally you won't be able to build and try what you did, which is bad |
| 20:00.15 | dcordes | you can also work with gitweb. I have really no idea what the problem is there. maybe you have an ancient git or so? |
| 20:00.43 | pH5 | jchang: after a git reset --hard master your git diff output is still non-empty? |
| 20:00.49 | jchang | yeah |
| 20:03.24 | pH5 | jchang: that's bad, reset --hard explicitly resets the working tree to the selected commit. the what happens if you just rm -rf * the entire tree contents (leaving .git) and then git checkout -b htc-msm origin/msm? |
| 20:04.02 | pH5 | either my understanding of git is seriously wrong or you have some git/os problems beyond that one repository. |
| 20:04.22 | jchang | alright, i'm rm -rf * from within the kernel directory |
| 20:07.22 | jchang | so it says: |
| 20:07.33 | jchang | fatal: git checkout: updating paths is incompatible with switching branches/forcing |
| 20:07.44 | jchang | Did you intend to checkout 'origin/msm/' which can not be resolved as commit? |
| 20:07.47 | dcordes | jchang: what'S your distro/git version? |
| 20:07.57 | jchang | 1.5.5.1 |
| 20:09.08 | dcordes | git version 1.5.4.3 with that all works well |
| 20:09.18 | dcordes | I'm using the git-core package in latest ubuntu |
| 20:09.47 | jchang | alright i'll try to version down |
| 20:10.12 | dcordes | hmm doubt that will do. I can try to clone and checkout maybe it's really broken |
| 20:11.13 | dcordes | jchang: and what's your linux distribution? |
| 20:11.29 | jchang | i'm using cygwin right now |
| 20:11.40 | jchang | do you think that's the problem? |
| 20:11.43 | dcordes | oooh |
| 20:12.11 | dcordes | Yes I think that's the problem. |
| 20:12.38 | dcordes | I'm not too familiar with cygwin but I seriously would not attempt kernel development from it |
| 20:13.05 | jchang | but i still should be able to see everything from it though |
| 20:13.06 | jchang | right? |
| 20:13.17 | jchang | just getting clones and checkouts shouldn't be affected? |
| 20:13.23 | dcordes | sorry no clue. I can suggest only to install a native distro |
| 20:15.03 | pH5 | 1.5.5.3 here, debian sid's default |
| 20:15.15 | pH5 | jchang: http://kerneltrap.org/mailarchive/git/2007/4/17/243823 <-- have a look at that, sounds similar? |
| 20:16.21 | dcordes | jchang: if you are a hater of linux partitions use a nice vmware |
| 20:16.49 | dcordes | that's ok for just compiling the changes in the kernel code. you don't have to clean all the time |
| 20:16.53 | dcordes | afaik |
| 20:17.18 | jchang | nah, i'm not a hater |
| 20:17.23 | jchang | it's just that i'm using a work computer |
| 20:17.36 | jchang | and i don't think i have enough space to load up vmware |
| 20:17.44 | jchang | but yeah ... i'll give that a try on my home computer |
| 20:17.44 | dcordes | if that means you can't partition around I would use vmware |
| 20:18.06 | dcordes | are you working as software developer? |
| 20:18.42 | jchang | yeah |
| 20:23.36 | dcordes | jchang: you should also show your banking friends openmoko when you start the presentation :) |
| 20:23.57 | jchang | what's openmoko? |
| 20:24.21 | dcordes | a linux distribution for mobile phones |
| 20:24.27 | jchang | oh nice |
| 20:24.31 | jchang | i'm checking out the site right now |
| 20:24.33 | jchang | looks pretty sweet |
| 20:24.40 | dcordes | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Main_Page |
| 20:25.19 | dcordes | android is similar to it. Android is just not open source entirely. Just the kernel is mostly |
| 20:25.53 | dcordes | in openmoko there is source code for every part of the system. from kernel to graphical frontends |
| 20:27.05 | jchang | hmm, yeah |
| 20:27.27 | dcordes | they also sell there own phones |
| 20:39.26 | jchang | alright. thanks a lot, i g2g |
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| 23:16.04 | dcordes_ | Kevin2: ping? |
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