| 00:00.20 | dzo | try tracing smem to look for something similar being sent to your radio. |
| 00:01.20 | dcordes__ | d'oh I need to get used to shutdown or at least sync before I eject the sd |
| 00:03.14 | dcordes__ | dzo: so with access to the adsp, we will be able to also make non phone use, of the audio stuff? |
| 00:04.39 | CPress | hey guys |
| 00:05.02 | dcordes__ | hey CPress |
| 00:06.26 | CPress | Hows the developement commin? |
| 00:06.40 | tmzt_mp900c | dcordes: I am on wifi, but keep losing connection because of stupidity with irq routing on this device, I think, or hostap and wpa |
| 00:06.40 | dcordes__ | CPress: nothing from my side |
| 00:07.23 | dcordes__ | tmzt_mp900c: I prefer wep out of plain lazyness |
| 00:07.28 | CPress | Where's the lates files located? I wanna try the new stuff |
| 00:07.29 | tmzt_mp900c | pcm for phone is from a9 isn't it, adsp is for audio from a11? |
| 00:08.12 | tmzt_mp900c | injection is now standard in iwlwifi, so no more wep for me, too easy to break |
| 00:08.13 | dcordes__ | tmzt_mp900c: can't tell exactly but yes, I think the audio is in command of arm9 |
| 00:08.20 | dzo | dcordes__: yes that is the plan, and i can see how it sends stuff to the adsp and android has a driver for it but it relies on RPC |
| 00:08.28 | dcordes__ | tmzt_mp900c: wpa is also getting there |
| 00:08.44 | tmzt_mp900c | of course, even ccmp (aes)? |
| 00:09.07 | dzo | no, a9 doesn't do audio but it controls the adsp more than a11 does. |
| 00:09.34 | dcordes__ | tmzt_mp900c: no but aircrack svn has some nasty wpa exploit, but only for qos networks or so |
| 00:09.35 | tmzt_mp900c | ok, so not like msm on other devices with pcm for phone |
| 00:09.50 | dzo | all that is needed is a few rpc calls and then you write to a buffer in the adsp mem space. |
| 00:10.37 | dzo | adsp has various "tasks" like playing audio, vid encoding wtc. |
| 00:11.03 | tmzt_mp900c | like n810 or similar then, with a dsp kernel? |
| 00:11.30 | dzo | it's all in adsp.c in the android kernel. |
| 00:11.47 | tmzt_mp900c | are you working on the .25 port or is that ginge? |
| 00:12.03 | dzo | yes .25 |
| 00:12.14 | tmzt_mp900c | what git for vogue/titan? |
| 00:12.23 | dcordes__ | tmzt_mp900c: but he is working on the vogue, not kaiser. ginge is on kaiser .25 |
| 00:13.04 | dzo | no git, i just have patches at http://cs-alb-pc3.massey.ac.nz/vogue hopefully they will be merged into a git repo one day. |
| 00:13.42 | tmzt_mp900c | so those patches against git.android android-msm-2.6.25? |
| 00:13.54 | dzo | yes, latest. |
| 00:14.28 | tmzt_mp900c | is hw keyboard working on titan, and what is the latest on titan sdio/wifi (not the driver, just the card) |
| 00:14.55 | wasup | i dont think so |
| 00:15.34 | wasup | its getting there.. still waiting for ginge |
| 00:15.35 | tmzt_mp900c | do you have two different input devices registered for onscreen keyboard and touchscreen? |
| 00:16.02 | tmzt_mp900c | (we're using a port of your osk to kaiser, and the flags seem to be wrong for tslib) |
| 00:16.07 | dzo | no, at the moment its all in the ts driver. |
| 00:16.11 | wasup | my responses are limited. |
| 00:16.15 | wasup | hahaha |
| 00:16.16 | wasup | jk |
| 00:16.20 | dcordes__ | dzo: now that ginge is running .25 on kaiser, I hope we will soon be able to merge the repo up with .25. also need to check up with polaris first but that should be no problem. I think ginge has some problems with the sd in 2.6.25 on kaiser |
| 00:16.48 | wasup | yeah i think he was talking about sd problems lastnight |
| 00:16.49 | dcordes__ | and then merge your patches in |
| 00:16.56 | tmzt_mp900c | we have moved away from osk and back to original tsc2003, and I have fixed the flags in a version for dcordes, |
| 00:17.23 | tmzt_mp900c | dcordes: does you hw keyboard work, I am just wondering how you are entering those commands |
| 00:17.26 | dzo | do you have a pendown irq or are you polling? |
| 00:17.42 | dcordes__ | tmzt_mp900c: yes. all keys work perfectly on the kaiser |
| 00:17.56 | dcordes__ | dzo: I think we are using pendown now. (polled before) |
| 00:18.28 | tmzt_mp900c | let me login to my desktop and check tsc2003.c |
| 00:18.31 | dzo | ok, thats good , i'll take a look at your driver some time. |
| 00:19.16 | dcordes__ | dzo: I'm struggling to get kaiser ts working in Xfbdev in order to be able to use openmoko at some point |
| 00:19.46 | dcordes__ | tmzt_mp900c: no need I'm on my desktop. wait a sec |
| 00:20.00 | tmzt_mp900c | penirq timer, that's polling right? |
| 00:20.09 | dzo | I've never tried to get X working but I think android treats ts differently to X. |
| 00:21.27 | dcordes__ | dzo: yes tmzt_mp900c put a patch http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/tsc2003-kaiser-tslib.diff for kaiser tsc2003.c http://git.linuxtogo.org/?p=groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git;a=blob;f=arch/arm/mach-msm/tsc2003.c;h=e9a3efec561b8b1a27fe2e4d1c70fb5c9464c607;hb=refs/heads/htc-msm in order to make use of it in tslib |
| 00:21.36 | tmzt_mp900c | yeah, tslib checks for ABS_X, ABS_Y, ABS_PRESSURE and BTN_TOUCH |
| 00:22.04 | dcordes__ | tmzt_mp900c: btw, did you see my thoughts about the hal/Invalid update errors? |
| 00:22.20 | tmzt_mp900c | yeah, but I don't think they are connected |
| 00:23.01 | dcordes__ | tmzt_mp900c: but what do you think about the value 'order'? |
| 00:23.09 | tmzt_mp900c | I wonder if you can register multiple input devices from one driver, maybe we could get osk to work again |
| 00:23.38 | tmzt_mp900c | in your bug? |
| 00:23.46 | dcordes__ | yea right |
| 00:24.35 | dcordes__ | zero pressure 320 some_changing_value |
| 00:24.51 | dcordes__ | 0 ... 320 are constant |
| 00:25.07 | tmzt_mp900c | a bunch of prints will run together if there is no \n |
| 00:25.41 | dcordes__ | I'm not so sure the second value in the errors represents pressure |
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| 00:26.39 | dcordes__ | Invalid update: 0 0 320 240 |
| 00:26.39 | dcordes__ | Invalid update: 0 156 320 84 |
| 00:26.39 | dcordes__ | Invalid update: 0 15 320 90 |
| 00:26.39 | dcordes__ | Invalid update: 0 144 320 96 |
| 00:28.26 | tmzt_mp900c | dcordes: do you get the x background and a X shaped cursor? |
| 00:28.40 | tmzt_mp900c | but you tap and it does not move |
| 00:28.49 | dcordes__ | yes |
| 00:29.09 | tmzt_mp900c | you get no mention of /dev/input/* in strace? |
| 00:29.20 | dcordes__ | well- sometimes it is stuck and darws only white underscore on black |
| 00:29.33 | dcordes__ | but I think that is not so relevant |
| 00:29.36 | tmzt_mp900c | can you send me the fb dump in email |
| 00:29.41 | tmzt_mp900c | when it does that |
| 00:29.56 | tmzt_mp900c | cat /dev/fb0 > fb.bin |
| 00:29.58 | dcordes__ | blabla & cat |
| 00:29.59 | dcordes__ | ok |
| 00:30.17 | tmzt_mp900c | is it 16*240*320 bytes? |
| 00:30.30 | tmzt_mp900c | I'll check python |
| 00:30.36 | dcordes__ | huh? |
| 00:30.56 | tmzt_mp900c | 1228800 |
| 00:31.05 | tmzt_mp900c | fb.bin |
| 00:31.10 | tmzt_mp900c | ls fb.bin |
| 00:32.23 | tmzt_mp900c | you have to do it in the background after sleeping a few seconds, or fbcon will redraw the framebuffer and you'll get a console prompt |
| 00:32.27 | tmzt_mp900c | in the bitmap |
| 00:32.41 | tmzt_mp900c | do you have strace in a file? |
| 00:32.52 | tmzt_mp900c | strace.txt |
| 00:33.27 | tmzt_mp900c | (I use python as a calculator on this device) |
| 00:38.37 | dcordes__ | sorry for the delay. will have the data in a few |
| 00:48.19 | dcordes__ | tmzt_mp900c: du -h fbdump.sh 624.0k |
| 00:49.03 | tmzt_mp900c | is fbdump.sh the bitmap, or is that a script |
| 00:49.24 | tmzt_mp900c | can you open it in gimp on your desktop and save it as png? |
| 00:52.53 | dcordes__ | s/.sh/.bin |
| 00:53.20 | dcordes__ | I'll catch some of the Xfbdump invalid errors |
| 00:53.59 | tmzt_mp900c | what is you depth in fbset? |
| 00:55.13 | Kevin2 | cr2: pong |
| 00:55.16 | dcordes__ | I'll get you the fbset -i output along with the bitmap hold up |
| 00:56.23 | tmzt_mp900c | what is latest haret for pxa with full gpio irq tracing, and what is the latest documentation for haret (not wiki?) |
| 00:56.58 | tmzt_mp900c | dcordes: can you email those? |
| 00:57.03 | dcordes__ | sure thing |
| 00:57.08 | tmzt_mp900c | and strace.txt if you have it |
| 00:57.33 | dcordes__ | ok |
| 00:58.34 | dcordes__ | now it won't go X cursor anymore and only half draws |
| 00:58.36 | dcordes__ | after I did the dump |
| 00:58.48 | tmzt_mp900c | also, is there someway to make lsmod work on ce.net 4.2? |
| 00:59.12 | dcordes__ | when it draws correctly, I get the ts stderrors, if not, I don't get them |
| 00:59.21 | tmzt_mp900c | I wonder if this is related to the virt res problem |
| 00:59.39 | tmzt_mp900c | your dump is half the size it should be for 16bit at qvga |
| 00:59.58 | tmzt_mp900c | (based on du -h output, I haven't checked my mail yet) |
| 01:00.28 | dcordes__ | tmzt_mp900c: I would try but still didn't figure how I pass/save/whatever fbset -g correctly |
| 01:02.48 | dcordes__ | it's just the yvres value that's shown wrong in fbset |
| 01:05.50 | tmzt_mp900c | xfbdev mmaps the framebuffer, so it might be mapping the virtual parts as well, then only drawing in the top half |
| 01:07.02 | tmzt_mp900c | I just need the bitdepth as reported by fbset |
| 01:07.37 | tmzt_mp900c | and the shift values for BGR if it lists them |
| 01:08.07 | tmzt_mp900c | but if its 16 it will either be 565 bgr or rgb, so it will show up in weird colors |
| 01:09.41 | tmzt_mp900c | fbset > tmp or fbset 2>tmp, but what's -g |
| 01:09.51 | dcordes__ | ah now I figured a way of turning Xfbdev on so it draws correctly and how to make it draw hafl |
| 01:10.33 | tmzt_mp900c | -g sets! the geometry, do you want to do that? |
| 01:10.42 | tmzt_mp900c | how? |
| 01:11.00 | dcordes__ | ..not. let me try some more |
| 01:11.18 | tmzt_mp900c | just fbset > tmp without the -g is what I need |
| 01:11.28 | tmzt_mp900c | but what are you passing to fbset -g ?? |
| 01:11.46 | tmzt_mp900c | fbset > fbset.txt |
| 01:12.05 | dcordes__ | only used it when I tried to permanently get rid off the not matching vyres |
| 01:12.21 | dcordes__ | I did fbset -g 240 320 240 320 16 |
| 01:12.32 | tmzt_mp900c | it's in the driver (kernel), it seems to set it anyway |
| 01:12.40 | tmzt_mp900c | did that work? |
| 01:12.41 | dcordes__ | so it would use that in Xfbdev instead of 240 320 240 600 16 |
| 01:12.44 | dcordes__ | no it did nothing. |
| 01:12.52 | tmzt_mp900c | do you have dd? |
| 01:13.15 | dcordes__ | i.e. I ran it, then checked with "fbset" and it reported still the 600 vyres! |
| 01:13.43 | dcordes__ | fbset man refers to /etc/fb.conf which has the full mode thing |
| 01:13.52 | dcordes__ | so I did fbset > /etc/fb.conf |
| 01:14.10 | dcordes__ | changed the 600 to 320 |
| 01:14.11 | tmzt_mp900c | dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/fb0 bs=1 count=61440 without X running |
| 01:14.27 | dcordes__ | and when I run fbset again it won't show 320 but still 600 |
| 01:14.42 | dcordes__ | so I wonder, what is /etc/fb.conf is for if not used, where else does it save its stuff? |
| 01:14.42 | tmzt_mp900c | yes, the driver appears to be ignoring those commands |
| 01:15.03 | tmzt_mp900c | but /etc/fb.conf can break other things, so you might want to move/delete it |
| 01:15.05 | dcordes__ | when I but the fbset -g 240 320 240 320 16 it prints the whole gemoetry once correctly |
| 01:16.03 | tmzt_mp900c | can you do that dd? |
| 01:16.20 | tmzt_mp900c | busybox might not support if= of= bs=, but I can check |
| 01:16.38 | tmzt_mp900c | dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/fb0 bs=16 count=61440 without X running |
| 01:16.46 | tmzt_mp900c | dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/fb0 bs=1 count=61440 without X running |
| 01:16.57 | dcordes__ | kaiser is offline so I can get fbdev.bin |
| 01:16.57 | tmzt_mp900c | sorry, I forgot I had already included the depth |
| 01:17.03 | tmzt_mp900c | ok |
| 01:17.09 | tmzt_mp900c | just email it |
| 01:18.17 | dcordes__ | gimp can't open, unknown filetype |
| 01:19.05 | tmzt_mp900c | yeah, its a raw bitmap, just the pixels, |
| 01:20.27 | tmzt | on my desktop |
| 01:22.10 | dcordes__ | how do you open it? |
| 01:23.19 | dcordes__ | tmzt_mp900c: sent |
| 01:23.24 | dcordes__ | tmzt: |
| 01:25.23 | dcordes__ | dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/fb0 bs=1 count=61440 now from fbcon? |
| 01:27.34 | pigeon | how do people here get their cross toolchains these days? build from crosstool or oe? |
| 01:29.01 | tmzt | I think I've got it, I can see that underline but the image is not clear |
| 01:29.18 | tmzt | still no 565 support in gimp |
| 01:31.02 | dcordes__ | tmzt: underline? |
| 01:31.08 | dcordes__ | pigeon: OE toolchain here. |
| 01:31.22 | tmzt | underscore |
| 01:31.34 | pigeon | dcordes__: thanks |
| 01:31.41 | tmzt | yes, from fbcon |
| 01:31.43 | dcordes__ | I am quite sure that one of the drew the full desktop |
| 01:31.52 | tmzt | the first one |
| 01:31.54 | tmzt | ? |
| 01:32.02 | dcordes__ | yes |
| 01:32.03 | tmzt | fbdump1.raw |
| 01:32.26 | dcordes__ | and I got them with the script |
| 01:32.33 | dcordes__ | which is also in the tarball X.sh |
| 01:32.39 | tmzt | did the dd fill the screen or half? |
| 01:32.46 | dcordes__ | booting now to try. |
| 01:33.13 | dcordes__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:33.18 | tmzt | what does kernel use to make its fb logos? |
| 01:33.26 | dcordes__ | no clue |
| 01:33.49 | tmzt_mp900c | dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/fb0 bs=1 count=61440 without X running |
| 01:33.54 | dcordes__ | ok |
| 01:34.08 | tmzt | had to up arrow on the other machine |
| 01:34.33 | dcordes__ | sorry, which machine? |
| 01:35.02 | tmzt | the mobile |
| 01:35.32 | dcordes__ | I press arrow up |
| 01:36.05 | tmzt | yes, but the line was on the other machine, not my desktop |
| 01:38.15 | dcordes__ | tmzt: dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/fb0 bs=1 count=61440 without X running => LSD colours |
| 01:38.52 | tmzt | half or whole screen? |
| 01:39.44 | dcordes__ | it starts off on the top off the screen |
| 01:39.55 | dcordes__ | and doesn't get further than..say 1/3 |
| 01:40.22 | dcordes__ | and that is just like the area that remains black when it is half drawn |
| 01:40.43 | dcordes__ | sometimes it only draws a line on the top along x axis |
| 01:40.51 | dcordes__ | then only some checkers |
| 01:40.59 | dcordes__ | I think that's because fbcon redraws it immediately |
| 01:43.35 | tmzt | ok, then add a sleep after |
| 01:45.39 | dcordes__ | hm |
| 01:45.39 | dcordes__ | odd |
| 01:48.05 | dcordes__ | while fbcom rotate=0 it doesn't draw anything |
| 01:53.32 | tmzt | fbcon is the only console on arm, right? |
| 01:54.13 | tmzt | cat /sys/class/graphics/fbcon/rotate |
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| 01:57.40 | tmzt | cat /sys/class/graphics/fbcon/rotate |
| 01:59.02 | dcordes | yes I have the 0 and 3 script for it |
| 02:01.03 | dcordes | tmzt: so what does the dd thing tell |
| 02:03.08 | tmzt | it just fills bytes with random data to see how many bytes make up the screen, to make sure I have the depth correct, and to figure out why X is only drawing half to screen sometimes |
| 02:05.59 | dcordes | maybe there is a conflict with fbcon that causes the random draw errors? |
| 02:06.29 | dcordes | need to reboot |
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| 02:17.29 | wasup | 'night everyone |
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| 02:19.11 | dcordes | tmzt_mp900c: just sent you a funny tar.bz2 |
| 02:21.18 | tmzt | hey, start Xfbdev with -dumb -softCursor -rawcoord |
| 02:22.11 | tmzt | just saw that in you txt file |
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| 02:23.22 | tmzt | well, I was trying to convert those with mplayer so this might help! |
| 02:23.47 | dcordes | the pics in the mail? |
| 02:24.01 | dcordes | I use eog and hold down left key |
| 02:24.36 | dcordes | Xfbdev with -dumb -softCursor -rawcoord |
| 02:24.38 | tmzt | the new one is downloading now |
| 02:24.44 | dcordes | no cursor movements |
| 02:25.02 | tmzt | but the cursor is drawn, try it a few times |
| 02:25.06 | dcordes | but I did not get the Xfbdev errors so I think it didn't get the output now |
| 02:25.16 | dcordes | sometimes it like the data, sometimes not |
| 02:25.28 | dcordes | that's as random as it being drawn correctly or not |
| 02:26.12 | tmzt | which means those were probably accel related |
| 02:26.46 | dcordes | huh why? |
| 02:26.50 | tmzt | but thanks for bz2'ing that one |
| 02:27.14 | tmzt | -dump disables accell |
| 02:27.18 | dcordes | oh |
| 02:27.29 | tmzt | -dumb |
| 02:27.37 | dcordes | that is shown in fbset => accel false |
| 02:27.37 | dcordes | anyway |
| 02:28.52 | tmzt | I think that xfbdev still attempts to accelerate things in the mmaped framebuffer with dirty rectangle |
| 02:29.10 | tmzt | meaning only those parts that changed would be redrawn |
| 02:29.38 | dcordes | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:29.56 | tmzt | do you have gpe-scap? |
| 02:30.09 | dcordes | that should be in the moko image but not here |
| 02:30.16 | tmzt | xwd? |
| 02:30.19 | dcordes | I had a problem startings apps in Xfbdev lately anyway |
| 02:30.21 | tmzt | do you have xwd |
| 02:30.22 | dcordes | how would I run any of those? |
| 02:30.33 | tmzt | DISPLAY=:0 |
| 02:30.43 | tmzt | export DISPLAY=:0 |
| 02:32.08 | dcordes | I have mplayer on the image |
| 02:32.36 | tmzt | mutt wouldn't save it, but it could pipe it out to cat |
| 02:33.08 | dcordes | what's the aim? |
| 02:33.38 | tmzt | just opening your latest mail now |
| 02:34.01 | dcordes | did I send it twice? |
| 02:38.33 | tmzt_mp900c | no |
| 02:38.54 | tmzt_mp900c | how did you get that exactly, with the timestamps? |
| 02:41.16 | tmzt_mp900c | dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/fb0 bs=1 count=1843200, I need to know if you get a device full message |
| 02:42.28 | dcordes | tmzt_mp900c: motion Version 3.2.9, Copyright 2000-2005 Jeroen Vreeken/Folkert van Heusden/Kenneth Lavrsen |
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| 02:51.18 | tmzt_mp900c | dcordes: hi, again |
| 02:52.12 | tmzt_mp900c | that was my guess |
| 02:54.44 | tmzt_mp900c | did you get that last dd? |
| 02:54.44 | tmzt_mp900c | did you do that last dd? (I checked the log) |
| 02:56.07 | tmzt_mp900c | its 16 bit per pixel, I did it again |
| 02:56.20 | tmzt_mp900c | thinking 16bits were two pixels |
| 02:56.25 | tmzt_mp900c | hold on |
| 02:59.05 | dcordes | was afk I'll try that command now |
| 02:59.36 | tmzt_mp900c | dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/fb0 bs=1 count=153600, check if you get device full |
| 03:00.02 | tmzt_mp900c | 16bits per pixel = 2bytes per pixel, so multiply by number of pixels |
| 03:00.06 | tmzt_mp900c | 2*320*240 |
| 03:02.04 | dcordes | I see. that accesses the whole screen |
| 03:02.11 | tmzt_mp900c | yes |
| 03:02.12 | dcordes | in landscape |
| 03:02.15 | tmzt_mp900c | it fills the screen |
| 03:02.17 | dcordes | now I will try portrait |
| 03:02.19 | tmzt_mp900c | doesn't matter |
| 03:02.47 | tmzt_mp900c | the same number of bytes either way 2*320*240 == 2*240*320 |
| 03:02.53 | dcordes | that also prints it entirely |
| 03:02.59 | dcordes | oh right |
| 03:03.04 | tmzt_mp900c | and that is only fbcon which draws to the framebuffer |
| 03:03.40 | tmzt_mp900c | dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/fb0 bs=1 count=76800 |
| 03:04.33 | dcordes | that's half the screen |
| 03:04.38 | tmzt_mp900c | dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/fb0 bs=1 count=307200, check if you get device full |
| 03:04.42 | tmzt_mp900c | that last one should be two screens high, which is what we want to know |
| 03:05.13 | tmzt_mp900c | right 76800 is half the screen, so it works |
| 03:07.19 | dcordes | 307200 draws it full |
| 03:08.33 | tmzt_mp900c | did you get the device full message? |
| 03:09.15 | dcordes | oh a message? |
| 03:09.17 | dcordes | wait |
| 03:09.29 | dcordes | I'm only semi awake |
| 03:09.45 | dcordes | no not full |
| 03:09.54 | dcordes | I only get the usual messages the other commands also print |
| 03:10.30 | tmzt_mp900c | which are? |
| 03:10.38 | tmzt_mp900c | you mean the prompt redrawing? |
| 03:11.25 | dcordes | 307200 (tries to) draw the screen completely and at the end |
| 03:11.39 | dcordes | 307200+0 records in |
| 03:11.43 | dcordes | 307200+0 records out |
| 03:12.06 | tmzt_mp900c | dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/fb0 bs=1 count=3072010 |
| 03:15.02 | dcordes | so that does the same as 307200 |
| 03:15.34 | tmzt_mp900c | yes, I know we got the device full when we did cat /dev/urandom > /dev/fb0 |
| 03:15.52 | tmzt_mp900c | I just thought it would be one or two screens worth of pixels |
| 03:17.15 | tmzt_mp900c | dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/fb0 bs=1, get the records number |
| 03:17.28 | dcordes | it is full with 634880 |
| 03:17.55 | dcordes | 634881 in |
| 03:17.59 | dcordes | 634880 out |
| 03:18.34 | dcordes | probably because of vyres 600? |
| 03:20.50 | tmzt_mp900c | 4 and 1/3 screens! |
| 03:21.01 | tmzt_mp900c | yres should be 640, shouldn't it? |
| 03:21.06 | tmzt_mp900c | vyres should be 640, shouldn't it? |
| 03:21.13 | dcordes | yes |
| 03:21.18 | dcordes | that's what fbset says |
| 03:21.46 | dcordes | 2*240*600? |
| 03:22.31 | dcordes | 640 |
| 03:22.41 | dcordes | 307200 |
| 03:22.46 | tmzt_mp900c | your Xfbdev had an option to set geometry |
| 03:22.57 | tmzt_mp900c | can you see what it was |
| 03:23.13 | dcordes | it's weird I didn't understand its syntax |
| 03:23.24 | tmzt_mp900c | just look at the first part |
| 03:23.30 | tmzt_mp900c | X*Y*depth |
| 03:23.37 | dcordes | -screen WIDTH[/WIDTHMM]xHEIGHT[/HEIGHTMM][@ROTATION][X][Y][xDEPTH/BPP{,DEPTH/BPP}[xFREQ]] Specify screen characteristics |
| 03:24.02 | tmzt_mp900c | the widthmm is the physical size of the screen, but its optional |
| 03:24.56 | tmzt_mp900c | -screen 320x240x16 -softCursor -dumb |
| 03:25.02 | tmzt_mp900c | try that |
| 03:25.20 | dcordes | by the way |
| 03:25.56 | dcordes | I have the TS_* variables in /etc/profile so the fbcon VT has them when I looged in. when I just type Xfbdev now, will Xfbdev also use those vars? |
| 03:30.59 | dcordes | now that was odd |
| 03:31.11 | tmzt_mp900c | yes |
| 03:31.38 | dcordes | I ran the command while I was in portrait (3), it had the screen drawn black and I only saw a line on top |
| 03:31.46 | dcordes | when I touched |
| 03:31.49 | tmzt_mp900c | and the script you pasted a few days ago also sources /etc/profile (. /etc/profile), so it would have them too |
| 03:32.02 | dcordes | that turned out to be the touch-touchscreen errors |
| 03:32.48 | tmzt_mp900c | if you have to rotate to 3 to get portrait, isn't your native orientation then landscape (320x240)? |
| 03:32.57 | tmzt_mp900c | or is the mdpfb rotating it? |
| 03:33.07 | dcordes | I rotated the screen (0) and I saw the errors. now when I try to rerun the same it says Fatal server error: no screens found |
| 03:33.10 | tmzt_mp900c | cat /sys/class/graphics/fb0/rotate |
| 03:33.20 | tmzt_mp900c | what command? |
| 03:33.43 | tmzt_mp900c | are you using the hw keyboard? |
| 03:33.46 | dcordes | sorry it should have been: I ran the command while I was in landscape (3), |
| 03:33.54 | tmzt_mp900c | with it slid out? |
| 03:33.59 | dcordes | yep |
| 03:34.12 | dcordes | yes I run cat /sys/class/graphics/fb0/rotate > 0 or 3 |
| 03:34.24 | tmzt_mp900c | this kdrive sounds a lot like x.org |
| 03:36.24 | tmzt_mp900c | did you get the installing message from dmesg earlier? |
| 03:36.24 | tmzt_mp900c | dmesg > tmp |
| 03:36.24 | tmzt_mp900c | grep installing tmp |
| 03:36.24 | tmzt_mp900c | no just cat /sys/class/graphics/fb0/rotate and give me the output |
| 03:36.24 | tmzt_mp900c | not fbcon |
| 03:36.54 | dcordes | need reboot |
| 03:37.03 | tmzt_mp900c | kaiser? |
| 03:37.23 | dcordes | y |
| 03:37.48 | dcordes | I wonder how I would make a key combination for changing vts |
| 03:38.09 | tmzt_mp900c | get that dmesg thing right after it boots |
| 03:38.15 | dcordes | so it's luxurious like on the zaurus |
| 03:38.21 | dcordes | ok |
| 03:38.44 | tmzt_mp900c | bind windows to alt? |
| 03:38.44 | tmzt_mp900c | does fn work? |
| 03:38.47 | tmzt_mp900c | windows is control, right |
| 03:38.49 | dcordes | yes |
| 03:39.35 | tmzt_mp900c | fbcon is interferring with x, or are you rotating the whole framebuffer |
| 03:39.38 | dcordes | I wonder how I fried my rt73 usb stick :(( |
| 03:39.48 | dcordes | no fbcon |
| 03:39.55 | tmzt_mp900c | no fbcon? |
| 03:40.07 | tmzt_mp900c | on kaiser |
| 03:40.42 | tmzt_mp900c | you mean no rotate in default.txt? |
| 03:40.43 | dcordes | echo 3 > /sys/class/graphics/fbcon/rotate |
| 03:40.46 | dcordes | makes it landscape |
| 03:40.53 | dcordes | 0 is default, portrait. |
| 03:41.04 | tmzt_mp900c | right, that makes more sense |
| 03:41.15 | tmzt_mp900c | so if you can get that installing line from dmesg |
| 03:41.20 | dcordes | (0=default, w/o fbcon:rotate in cmdline of course) |
| 03:41.21 | tmzt_mp900c | see |
| 03:41.56 | dcordes | msmfb_probe( installing 240x320 panel |
| 03:42.04 | tmzt_mp900c | default is portrait 240*320 |
| 03:42.11 | dcordes | msmfb_probe() installing 240x320 panel |
| 03:43.46 | tmzt_mp900c | and the half of the screen that filled was the top half landscape? |
| 03:44.49 | dcordes | always starting from the top |
| 03:45.10 | dcordes | and if it was half 3rd whatver it always was the top part only |
| 03:46.28 | tmzt_mp900c | that was holding it landscape? |
| 03:46.47 | tmzt_mp900c | cat /sys/class/graphics/fb0/rotate |
| 03:46.54 | tmzt_mp900c | just give me the result |
| 03:47.30 | tmzt_mp900c | did you ever see a response in xorg? |
| 03:47.49 | dcordes | well I'm holding it always landscape. but if I say top, I mean it from the perspective of holding it like usual pda in your hand (portrait) |
| 03:48.24 | tmzt_mp900c | that is very important, it tells me if the fb is rotated or not |
| 03:48.36 | dcordes | cat /sys/class/graphics/fb0/rotate => 0 |
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| 03:48.41 | dcordes | on bootup |
| 03:49.07 | tmzt_mp900c | yes, and I'm sure changing doesn't work |
| 03:49.10 | dcordes | 05:40 < dcordes> 0 is default, portrait. |
| 03:49.43 | tmzt_mp900c | fb0 and fbcon rotate or not the same |
| 03:49.53 | dcordes | oh I was not reading |
| 03:49.55 | tmzt_mp900c | fb0 would have to be in the framebuffer driver mdpfb |
| 03:50.15 | tmzt_mp900c | fbcon is software anyway so it can draw either rotation |
| 03:50.57 | dcordes | right, it doesn't do anything when I write a 3 to it |
| 03:50.58 | tmzt_mp900c | Xfbdev runs on framebuffer, so it must match the rotate of the fb0, as it mmaps the memory directly |
| 03:51.11 | tmzt_mp900c | does the 3 stay or is it still 0 |
| 03:51.28 | dcordes | I won't touch fbcon from now to avoid any confusion or conflicts with the programs |
| 03:51.40 | dcordes | let me see |
| 03:51.49 | dcordes | stays 3 when I write |
| 03:52.04 | tmzt_mp900c | when X only draws half the screen, that is the portrait top half right? |
| 03:52.19 | dcordes | yes |
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| 04:12.36 | tmzt_mp900c | hey, dcordes |
| 04:13.28 | tmzt_mp900c | then X is not rotating the screen |
| 04:13.39 | tmzt_mp900c | can you run xrandr with X running in background and DISPLAY=:0 set? |
| 04:13.58 | tmzt_mp900c | got wired pcmcia nic now |
| 04:15.32 | dcordes | tmzt_mp900c: ok. with the -screen -softCursor and -dumb bits? |
| 04:17.07 | tmzt_mp900c | yes |
| 04:18.23 | tmzt_mp900c | screen resolution, rotation and supported rotation?? |
| 04:18.45 | dcordes | wait a second |
| 04:18.58 | dcordes | I fubared the script |
| 04:19.03 | tmzt_mp900c | script? |
| 04:19.45 | tmzt_mp900c | (Xfbdev :0) & (sleep 1; chvt 1) & |
| 04:19.59 | dcordes | ok |
| 04:20.11 | tmzt_mp900c | export DISPLAY=:0 |
| 04:20.16 | tmzt_mp900c | xrandr |
| 04:20.39 | tmzt_mp900c | we'll try the other options in a minute |
| 04:21.12 | tmzt_mp900c | I think fbdev is always softcursor, at least |
| 04:21.52 | dcordes | had to make an fsck.ext2 |
| 04:22.10 | tmzt_mp900c | tunefs -j to enable ext3? |
| 04:22.29 | dcordes | I heard journaling on sd is not so good |
| 04:22.41 | tmzt_mp900c | oh, on sd |
| 04:22.55 | dcordes | beacuse it causes too much access |
| 04:23.03 | tmzt_mp900c | any nand flash will were out over time |
| 04:23.51 | tmzt_mp900c | the no fsck'ing most of the time is good though, if you shut off hard all the time |
| 04:24.22 | tmzt_mp900c | on mp900c, I have cf hdd, but the thing runs until arm clock or tft fails, don't know which |
| 04:24.38 | tmzt_mp900c | ce won't even boot at that level, it checks the battery |
| 04:24.41 | tmzt_mp900c | in bootloader |
| 04:26.06 | tmzt_mp900c | I mean, ce won't boot long before that point, so if I crash early it won't boot up even if linux would run a few more hours |
| 04:28.18 | tmzt_mp900c | did you ever get oabi kernel support built? |
| 04:29.55 | dcordes | now my screen is black after the script is ran |
| 04:30.20 | dcordes | I think I'd put a bigger pause before chvt is started |
| 04:30.32 | tmzt_mp900c | yes, just didn't want 10 |
| 04:31.04 | tmzt_mp900c | did xrandr work? |
| 04:31.15 | dcordes | no black screen, rebooting. |
| 04:31.32 | tmzt_mp900c | console didn't come back? |
| 04:31.35 | dcordes | yea |
| 04:32.32 | tmzt_mp900c | did you ever get oabi kernel support built? |
| 04:32.37 | dcordes | no |
| 04:32.42 | tmzt_mp900c | ok |
| 04:32.44 | dcordes | I never tried |
| 04:32.58 | tmzt_mp900c | if you build the zImage again, try adding that |
| 04:33.18 | tmzt_mp900c | CONFIG_OABI_COMPAT |
| 04:34.24 | tmzt_mp900c | those update messages you got earlier were interesting because it looked like Xfbdev might be getting the touch coordinates and trying to draw the cursor |
| 04:34.24 | dcordes | oh crap |
| 04:34.29 | tmzt_mp900c | what? |
| 04:34.31 | dcordes | crandr switch back to X |
| 04:34.47 | tmzt_mp900c | yeah, it does, doesn't it |
| 04:34.47 | dcordes | from the terminal |
| 04:35.14 | dcordes | it just did that |
| 04:35.22 | tmzt_mp900c | since we were looking for console output I didn't think about it |
| 04:35.33 | tmzt_mp900c | so you are stuck in X? |
| 04:35.42 | dcordes | I ran X on :0, switched back to fbcon vt, ran xrand, and now I'm stuck in the X |
| 04:35.59 | tmzt_mp900c | does fn work? |
| 04:36.07 | dcordes | yes |
| 04:36.15 | tmzt_mp900c | what keys work with fn? |
| 04:36.35 | dcordes | you mean, which ones are currently used by it? |
| 04:36.48 | dcordes | all except of the ones that make no sense |
| 04:36.59 | tmzt_mp900c | do fn+1 give you f1? |
| 04:37.12 | tmzt_mp900c | do you have alt? |
| 04:37.37 | tmzt_mp900c | probably reboot again |
| 04:37.43 | dcordes | unfortunately, kaiser qwerty has no 1234.. line, so fn enables like a numpad on laptop keyboards |
| 04:37.51 | dcordes | no alt |
| 04:38.14 | dcordes | I could map the camera button to alt, then use alt+left/right |
| 04:38.16 | tmzt_mp900c | maybe fn+zxcvbnm for f1..f7 |
| 04:38.35 | tmzt_mp900c | but not in X, can you? |
| 04:38.46 | tmzt_mp900c | ctrl+alt+left? |
| 04:39.05 | tmzt_mp900c | ctrl+alt+bksp? |
| 04:39.07 | dcordes | no I mean for future comfort |
| 04:39.11 | tmzt_mp900c | I know |
| 04:39.21 | dcordes | that would be highly useful |
| 04:39.29 | tmzt_mp900c | you have bksp fn+bksp=del |
| 04:39.30 | tmzt_mp900c | ? |
| 04:39.45 | tmzt_mp900c | and maybe sysrq |
| 04:39.55 | tmzt_mp900c | on something |
| 04:40.31 | dcordes | exactly |
| 04:40.32 | tmzt_mp900c | I should really get my pgup/pgdn mapped on here |
| 04:40.47 | tmzt_mp900c | should just be a loadkeys |
| 04:41.44 | tmzt_mp900c | I should have said fn+asdfghjkl since that would be under the other set |
| 04:53.18 | dcordes | bye |
| 05:09.40 | marajin | still up dcordes ? |
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| 08:18.18 | ftoledo | im test with files from here http://www.linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcuniversal/index.html but i have a MTYPE error |
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| 10:07.01 | ginge | morning |
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| 10:17.32 | marajin | ginge: h'lo |
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| 10:22.16 | ginge | I want to set up my blueangel as a wireless access point, is that possible? |
| 10:43.37 | cr2 | kiozen: ok. |
| 10:44.08 | cr2 | Kevin2: why does the mmutrace does not work (not registered) on strongarm ? |
| 10:44.44 | marajin | ginge: Erm yeah it is |
| 10:44.59 | marajin | ginge: I know I've seen the software for it on Hermes/Kaiser |
| 10:48.25 | cr2 | kiozen: how do you know that gps is 'off' ? your data about gps look strange. |
| 10:50.19 | kiozen | cr2: good question, I assume it is switched off when I close the gps app |
| 10:51.04 | cr2 | kiozen: the only way to be sure, ir to enable the IR. imho. |
| 10:51.16 | cr2 | s/,ir/,is/ |
| 10:51.16 | kiozen | ok |
| 10:54.41 | kiozen | cr2: if I enable IR, trigger it with my Zire21, disable IR and do wifi or bt only, I get the same values |
| 10:56.26 | cr2 | CPLD-A = 4 is the gps-related bit. 100% |
| 11:03.18 | kiozen | cr2: tested with powermon too, + ~100 mA with gps, and bits are the same as in the table |
| 11:04.04 | kiozen | this stuff is strange |
| 11:20.17 | marajin | cr2: Can you flash a BA from card/ |
| 11:22.48 | ginge | or vista? |
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| 11:47.12 | cr2 | marajin: yes, because it's pxa flash. but linux is not 100% ready for that. |
| 11:48.43 | marajin | cr2: No I don't mean flash linux to it, I mean flash WM6.x to it from card but it prolly doesn't matter now |
| 11:52.30 | cr2 | marajin: yes, it should work. you only need to prepare the card, with correct header and checksum. |
| 11:53.45 | marajin | cr2: Uhuh, it's for ginge but I think h's found an XP system to flash from anyway |
| 11:56.30 | ginge | cr2: any links to flashing from the card? |
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| 12:16.04 | cr2 | ginge: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HimalayaBootloaderSdCardFlashing |
| 12:16.23 | ginge | thanks |
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| 16:40.00 | matsuu | hi |
| 16:43.07 | cr2 | hi |
| 16:58.31 | ginge | joshts0: you about? |
| 16:59.31 | AstainHellbring | morning |
| 16:59.33 | ginge | or any titan people who fancy a haret trace :) |
| 16:59.49 | ginge | AstainHellbring: morning |
| 17:00.09 | AstainHellbring | I feel like a haret trace but not got my linux box setup yet.... |
| 17:00.45 | ginge | have you got python on your win box? |
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| 17:01.05 | AstainHellbring | no unfortunately lemme check my box next to me though I forgot it may have linux on it too |
| 17:01.41 | ginge | unless haretconsole can postprocess the data... |
| 17:04.05 | cr2 | java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: Java heap space |
| 17:11.23 | AstainHellbring | ginge, is there a linux distro that would be better than any others? |
| 17:12.14 | ginge | no not really, personal preference |
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| 18:02.28 | ginge | dzo: hi |
| 18:39.14 | joshts0 | ginge; hey im here |
| 18:39.32 | ginge | fancy tracing your titan in haret? |
| 18:41.16 | joshts0 | sure .. whats that mean exactly? ;) |
| 18:41.35 | ginge | similar to what you did for me the other day |
| 18:41.45 | ginge | load haret on the phone, load haretconsole on the pc |
| 18:42.24 | joshts0 | k let me get there |
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| 18:50.09 | joshts0 | ya sorry i work all day too so i get side tracked |
| 18:50.17 | joshts0 | (i actually do linux support ;o) |
| 18:50.22 | joshts0 | im there.. what do i need to do now? |
| 18:50.29 | ginge | in haretconsole do: joinlist traces gpios |
| 18:50.45 | ginge | can you remember which ibit you set last time? |
| 18:51.24 | joshts0 | for gpios? ummm i have the logs i can check |
| 18:51.35 | ginge | its easy to figure out. |
| 18:51.45 | ginge | do wirq 1 and see what spams |
| 18:53.46 | joshts0 | 203 primarily, so ibit irqs 203 right? |
| 18:54.34 | ginge | yeah |
| 18:56.46 | joshts0 | hmph, says Bit 203 is past max of 31 ... |
| 18:57.14 | ginge | oops irqs == traces |
| 18:58.02 | joshts0 | k, sorting through teh spam... sec.. |
| 18:58.58 | ginge | yeah I have about 6 to ibit on kaiser |
| 18:58.58 | joshts0 | hey how do you remove a ibitt? |
| 19:00.16 | ginge | not sure |
| 19:00.48 | joshts0 | k, theres quite a few... should iw orry about being too ibit happy? |
| 19:01.08 | ginge | you want it so there is nothing happening when you wirq it |
| 19:04.26 | joshts0 | okay got it now what |
| 19:05.25 | ginge | wirq 30 and then press the keys w s z t g v u j n shift return |
| 19:09.08 | ginge | you should see some a whole crapload of ins and outs going on |
| 19:09.51 | joshts0 | yep a shit ton now what |
| 19:10.00 | ginge | send me your haretlog |
| 19:10.20 | joshts0 | if i exit haretconsole but keep haret running, will i lose my ibits and stuff? |
| 19:10.43 | ginge | no, shouldn't do |
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| 19:29.25 | joshts0 | ginge |
| 19:29.28 | joshts0 | err |
| 19:29.31 | joshts0 | ginge: sent the log |
| 19:29.35 | ginge | thanks |
| 19:35.20 | ginge | joshts0: this looks odd |
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| 19:36.40 | ginge | joshts0: haretconsole didnt do the conversion by the looks of it |
| 19:40.32 | ginge | i see ni irqs either |
| 19:41.31 | joshts0 | should i try again? .. |
| 19:42.15 | ginge | this is what you should see... |
| 19:42.31 | ginge | 006.361 IRQS IRQ: IRQ28(28)=1006.361 TRACES in1: in1-21(213)=0006.361 TRACES in1: in1-19(211)=1006.361 TRACES out1_en: out1_en-19(371)=0 |
| 19:42.37 | ginge | etc |
| 19:43.09 | ginge | i think you need a newer haret |
| 19:43.25 | joshts0 | how can i get newer than the newest?! |
| 19:43.36 | ginge | what ver you on? |
| 19:43.41 | joshts0 | 0.5.1 is what it says im running... |
| 19:43.47 | ginge | old |
| 19:43.57 | joshts0 | ha okay, link? |
| 19:44.54 | ginge | um... |
| 19:45.06 | ginge | anyone? |
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| 19:46.27 | ginge | http://www.pierrox.net/G500/20080203/haret.exe maybe? |
| 19:46.44 | wasup | hey everyone |
| 19:46.54 | ginge | wasup: hi |
| 19:47.05 | wasup | any updates? i saw dzo released a new adroid.zip |
| 19:47.21 | wasup | android* |
| 19:47.47 | ginge | not much going on |
| 19:47.51 | AstainHellbring | another new zip huh wasup? |
| 19:48.13 | wasup | yeah... he replaced the system files to .gz |
| 19:48.39 | wasup | so u didnt have to copy 256 mb. |
| 19:48.43 | wasup | or something like that |
| 19:48.55 | wasup | Update(24/7/08): I've repackaged the files in android.zip and updated a few things. Now you don't need to copy 256M to your SD card, just put system.gz and data.gz on the card and the first time it boots they will be extracted to system.img and data.img (thanks to Kevin's initramfs installer for the idea). Keep your data.img if you have saved anything on it and delete system.img to use the new stiff. Audio in calls should be better, vibrate on receiving cal |
| 19:48.59 | AstainHellbring | just saw that very nice |
| 19:49.17 | AstainHellbring | just gotta get a good titan kernel and things will be rocking |
| 19:49.31 | wasup | yep...thats what im waiting for.. |
| 19:49.53 | wasup | ginge, did you get a chance to mess with the keyboard again? |
| 19:50.07 | ginge | wasup: were on it now |
| 19:50.17 | wasup | oh..cool |
| 19:50.25 | wasup | if u guys need anything let me know |
| 19:50.41 | AstainHellbring | btw ginge I almost have my linux box setup to help doing haret scans |
| 19:53.27 | wasup | has anyone tried booting open moko? |
| 19:53.42 | wasup | its based off of angstrom isnt it? |
| 19:53.46 | AstainHellbring | it has xserver issues if I recall what I heard right |
| 19:53.52 | ginge | wasup: dcordes is on it |
| 19:54.41 | wasup | oh.. i was trying but... idk.. i can only find the whole file structure for the SD card.. and then i just get lost... like setting root and all that |
| 19:58.31 | joshts0 | kay ill try again with this version |
| 20:05.55 | wasup | hey screen calibration what two points? |
| 20:07.02 | joshts0 | 203 278 270 290 281 276 ignore these.. |
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| 20:08.42 | Robot_kolej | hi all ;) |
| 20:08.54 | Robot_kolej | I got usb host working under WM6 |
| 20:09.47 | AstainHellbring | Robot_kolej, on what device? |
| 20:09.54 | Robot_kolej | hx4700 |
| 20:10.08 | wasup | sounds like a future robot car |
| 20:10.17 | wasup | im gonna google it |
| 20:10.49 | Robot_kolej | i was arguing a while ago that it should work :D and now i have tested it successfully |
| 20:11.10 | joshts0 | ginge: is that better...? (just sent one) |
| 20:11.41 | wasup | oh cool its a hp ipaq? |
| 20:11.48 | Robot_kolej | wasup: yes |
| 20:11.52 | wasup | cool |
| 20:12.39 | ginge | joshts0: nope :( |
| 20:12.46 | ginge | joshts0: i'll send over my hret |
| 20:12.56 | joshts0 | kk |
| 20:13.33 | joshts0 | (and i can still provide ssh access to a machien with haretconsole :) ) |
| 20:13.47 | marajin | ginge: Any success with the BA? |
| 20:14.02 | Robot_kolej | where can one get the newest haret ? (for wm6) |
| 20:14.15 | ginge | marajin: no, had to shred 10 years worth of paperwork |
| 20:15.08 | marajin | ginge: That's an interesting way to update firmware, did it work? ;) |
| 20:15.14 | wasup | handhelds.org/~koconnor/haret/ |
| 20:15.23 | wasup | i think that is updated |
| 20:16.02 | wasup | wow ive been running android for like 10 minutes... no freezing |
| 20:16.13 | marajin | wasup: Voodoo! |
| 20:16.19 | marajin | wasup: Pact with the devil! |
| 20:16.25 | wasup | hahaha |
| 20:16.49 | ginge | marajin: still wont boot with our fubar sd driver :( |
| 20:17.25 | wasup | what r u guys trying to do with the SD driver? |
| 20:17.49 | ginge | wasup: stop it from crashing out on large block transfers |
| 20:18.13 | wasup | oh... what was the max it would transfer befor crashing? |
| 20:18.42 | ginge | wasup: it varies 2-5MB generally |
| 20:19.09 | ginge | its irq related I think |
| 20:19.24 | wasup | oh |
| 20:20.07 | marajin | ginge: =/ |
| 20:20.14 | marajin | ginge: We need fault tolerance! |
| 20:20.29 | ginge | marajin: we need someone who knows this better than I do :) |
| 20:20.38 | marajin | ginge: No such person? :P |
| 20:21.08 | marajin | raises EGeniusNotFound |
| 20:21.25 | ginge | marajin: :) |
| 20:21.56 | marajin | my neighbour just told me I'm a very intelligent man, and given what he's like, I'm worried :P |
| 20:22.12 | wasup | hahaha |
| 20:22.54 | marajin | He's married with an 18 year old son, and I STILL wouldn't put it past him |
| 20:25.40 | AstainHellbring | so we needing some more haret console probing of a titan? I'm all setup to do stuff on a linux box now |
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| 20:35.50 | Zoolooc | hi there |
| 20:36.19 | Zoolooc | folks, did I understand right, the kaiser kernel now does fine with microSDHC? |
| 20:38.03 | Zoolooc | just ordered a new 8GB, need to use it from WM too (with navigation software and such), should I partition it for linux, is it recommendable, or should I just use image files when playing with android or linux distros? |
| 20:40.08 | ginge | Zoolooc: sd is not stable in kaiser |
| 20:40.18 | ginge | joshts0: how are you getting on? |
| 20:40.39 | ginge | AstainHellbring: joshts0 is doing some traces, you are welcome to join in |
| 20:40.42 | joshts0 | whatd i miss? |
| 20:40.59 | ginge | joshts0: did you reupgrade haret? |
| 20:41.18 | AstainHellbring | ok ginge: so what do I do to get it started? |
| 20:41.46 | ginge | AstainHellbring: load haret+haretconsole type: |
| 20:41.46 | ginge | joinlist traces gpios |
| 20:42.07 | ginge | hen ibit traces 203 278 270 290 281 276 |
| 20:42.13 | ginge | then wirq 30 |
| 20:42.13 | joshts0 | i missed the haret so ive gotta sheg |
| 20:42.18 | joshts0 | ha ya i think thats about all of them ;o |
| 20:42.34 | Zoolooc | ginge: oh, not yet? well, hopefully it will become stable eventually... nevertheless, as to avoid having to do it later, would you recommend partitioning? |
| 20:43.27 | ginge | Zoolooc: yeah, better than repartition later |
| 20:43.39 | ginge | just leave 1gb at the end |
| 20:43.49 | ginge | joshts0: sheg? |
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| 20:45.10 | Zoolooc | ginge: thx |
| 20:47.17 | ginge | AstainHellbring: then press e d x u j n leave a swcond before pressing the next in the sequence, makes it easier to work out which is which |
| 20:49.01 | joshts0 | ginge: got another ... |
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| 20:49.26 | wasupwithuman | hey... |
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| 20:49.38 | ginge | joshts0: does it look like the paste I did before? |
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| 20:50.43 | *** part/#htc-linux wasup1 (n=Tech@208.47.103.106) |
| 20:52.13 | wasup | hey ginge u guys need anymore help with traces... im bored |
| 20:52.49 | ginge | wasup: hopefully we should have enough when I get the other traces in |
| 20:53.04 | ginge | if you fancy learning how to trace the cpld you are welcome ;) |
| 20:53.16 | joshts0 | ya still nothign for me.. upgrading haretconsole and trying again.. |
| 20:53.21 | wasup | cpid? |
| 20:54.02 | ginge | its a chip that controls extra functions on the device. The mail cpu talk to it, and we need the traces of that communication |
| 20:54.04 | marajin | Back |
| 20:54.09 | ginge | s/mail/main |
| 20:54.32 | ginge | marajin: in black? |
| 20:54.46 | marajin | ginge: As a matter of fact, yes actually. |
| 20:54.50 | wasup | ok... and how do i begin tracing that? or is that the major question? |
| 20:56.26 | joshts0 | got another tha ti think is right.. |
| 20:58.25 | ginge | wasup: first you find the address of the CPLD in the memory map, that should be in the wiki |
| 20:58.38 | wasup | ok |
| 20:58.39 | joshts0 | ginge: sent another with e d x u j n (shift enter i think too.) |
| 20:58.41 | wasup | then? |
| 20:59.11 | ginge | wasup: then you dump mmu 2 that address and use the first reported virtual address in the trace... |
| 20:59.28 | wasup | ok |
| 20:59.37 | ginge | wasup: addlist mmutrace that_address however_long_it_is |
| 21:00.18 | wasup | ok |
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| 21:03.42 | ginge | joshts0: nah, still not right |
| 21:03.51 | joshts0 | dammit |
| 21:04.22 | ginge | 006.361 TRACES out1_en: out1_en-7(359)=1 |
| 21:04.27 | ginge | is what you should get |
| 21:04.54 | joshts0 | okay wtf i see that stuff when i type it but its not in my logs |
| 21:05.15 | ginge | ? |
| 21:06.00 | joshts0 | when i am donig wir and pressing those keys that is the output i get.. but when i look at the haretlog.log file i clearlys ee thats not what it looks like.. |
| 21:06.28 | ginge | if your back buffer big enough? copy paste? |
| 21:06.41 | ginge | s/enough?/enough to/ |
| 21:07.26 | joshts0 | test |
| 21:07.29 | joshts0 | s/test/a/ |
| 21:07.35 | joshts0 | heey cool |
| 21:08.01 | joshts0 | fun |
| 21:08.15 | joshts0 | so ya its not but i can do it again.. |
| 21:09.11 | AstainHellbring | ginge: sorry I'm confused what do I on pc and what do I do on phone? |
| 21:09.20 | joshts0 | ha how many lines do you think this is goign to be? |
| 21:09.46 | ginge | AstainHellbring: in haretconsole: joinlist traces gpios and the ibit numbers above |
| 21:10.10 | ginge | AstainHellbring: when I said press the keys, thats on the phone |
| 21:11.00 | AstainHellbring | oh ic haret console is the seperate app... ok what version of haret console do I want? |
| 21:12.15 | joshts0 | 683 750 770 759 758 756 760 ... |
| 21:13.01 | wasup | ok so i dumped the mmu |
| 21:14.16 | wasup | first virtual address 8c000000, physical address 00000000, description 1mb section, flags d=0 cb ap=1 |
| 21:14.55 | *** part/#htc-linux Robot_kolej (n=robot@adsl-dyn207.78-99-178.t-com.sk) |
| 21:16.56 | ginge | wasup: doesn't seem right... |
| 21:17.05 | ginge | what address did you dump? |
| 21:17.40 | wasup | was i suppose to dump the virtual or physical to mmu? |
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| 21:18.30 | joshts0 | okay i think this will be what you want |
| 21:18.41 | eTiger13 | anyone here have a vogue? |
| 21:19.13 | AstainHellbring | ginge, ok so what do I do to give the ips to machine and phone so I can do the haret console properly |
| 21:19.14 | ginge | wasup: physical dump mmu 2 0x90000000 I think on yours |
| 21:19.25 | joshts0 | ginge: okay check this one |
| 21:19.38 | ginge | AstainHellbring: have you got an AP you can connect the phone to |
| 21:19.54 | AstainHellbring | wireless? yes |
| 21:20.12 | ginge | connect up, then haretconsole ip_address |
| 21:20.34 | wasup | cp15: r1=00a5387f r2=102e0000 r3=00000001 r13=12000000 |
| 21:20.43 | wasup | ? |
| 21:20.54 | AstainHellbring | ahh ok makes sense now |
| 21:21.04 | ginge | joshts0: perfect, thanks |
| 21:21.36 | joshts0 | finally jeeze... what else/ |
| 21:21.38 | ginge | wasup: whats the first line under virtual |
| 21:22.11 | ginge | joshts0: so what order are these in? |
| 21:22.32 | wasup | 8c000000 |
| 21:22.53 | joshts0 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:23.03 | ginge | joshts0: thanks |
| 21:23.09 | ginge | wasup: 1MB section? |
| 21:23.16 | wasup | yep |
| 21:23.26 | ginge | thats not it then :/ |
| 21:23.38 | wasup | ok...what am i looking for? |
| 21:23.41 | joshts0 | ginge: should we do hw keys enxt or one step at a time? |
| 21:24.08 | ginge | joshts0: one step at a time ;) |
| 21:24.14 | ginge | wasup: maybe the wiki is wrong |
| 21:24.24 | joshts0 | ginge: kk, when do you think youl lhave some more tests to try? |
| 21:24.38 | wasup | 0xbc000000Â Â 0x94000000Â Â 2Â think thats it |
| 21:24.42 | ginge | joshts0: couple of hours assuming I can wade through the forealz log |
| 21:24.46 | wasup | screen is going crazy right now |
| 21:25.17 | wasup | gave me a who bunch of crap... what should the size be? |
| 21:26.16 | ginge | wasup: hmm not sure. |
| 21:26.24 | BlueCopy | just wanted to say thanks to all the people working on this. i will try to donate and support it in the future |
| 21:26.29 | ginge | wasup: its likely to be small |
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| 21:26.54 | wasup | small (4k) |
| 21:27.45 | ginge | 4k? quite large |
| 21:27.56 | wasup | idk it says small |
| 21:27.58 | wasup | hahaha |
| 21:28.24 | wasup | small, coarse, unmapped, tiny |
| 21:28.31 | wasup | are my choices |
| 21:28.35 | ginge | cr2: any idea how large a mem size we need to trace for the cpld? |
| 21:29.53 | cr2 | ginge: where ? |
| 21:30.19 | ginge | cr2: in haret not sure how big a window to trace for getting data out of the cpld |
| 21:30.27 | ginge | on the htc titan |
| 21:30.32 | cr2 | i mean which device ? |
| 21:30.55 | cr2 | hmm. i think i've check all led gpios yesterday. |
| 21:31.16 | cr2 | do you have the msm gpio and cpld gpio wiki pages already, like it's done for kaiser ? |
| 21:31.35 | ginge | empty, but I believe they are there |
| 21:32.01 | cr2 | create the pages, i'll fill a lot of data. |
| 21:32.06 | ginge | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Titan_GPIO |
| 21:32.28 | cr2 | i think the size is 10 15bit registers. 1 page will be good for tracing. |
| 21:32.43 | ginge | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=TitanMemoryMap |
| 21:32.46 | cr2 | cpld page ? |
| 21:32.50 | ginge | 15 bit? |
| 21:33.17 | cr2 | 16bit access, but i think they are 8bit. |
| 21:33.20 | ginge | cr2 working on it |
| 21:33.34 | cr2 | ok |
| 21:33.43 | wasup | u guys lost me... |
| 21:33.45 | wasup | hahaha |
| 21:35.46 | AstainHellbring | ginge: ok I have haret console loaded now |
| 21:35.50 | ginge | seems my login is no longer valid. Can't see where to create a new account |
| 21:36.34 | ginge | oh, right. I changed my password ;) |
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| 21:40.28 | ginge | cr2: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Titan_CPLD |
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| 21:47.08 | cr2 | ginge: edited. |
| 21:47.14 | ginge | thanks |
| 21:47.48 | cr2 | ginge: 0x10 is there too. |
| 21:48.03 | eTiger13 | anyone here have a vogue(touch)? |
| 21:48.32 | cr2 | ginge: added |
| 21:49.17 | cr2 | ginge: trace 1 full page |
| 21:53.09 | wasup | so how do i use the command addlist mmutrace? |
| 21:55.10 | wasup | slaps wasup around a bit with a large trout |
| 21:56.43 | wasup | hi |
| 21:59.51 | cr2 | ginge: editing |
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| 22:08.56 | samuelbarthelemy | so. |
| 22:09.13 | ginge | la |
| 22:10.26 | ginge | joshts0: did you switch to using edx ujn? |
| 22:11.07 | joshts0 | yeah should i do it again with w,etc? |
| 22:11.26 | ginge | yes please, I dont want to get myswlf confused :) |
| 22:13.01 | *** part/#htc-linux exco (n=exco@e181123110.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 22:14.38 | joshts0 | okay sec.. |
| 22:15.42 | *** part/#htc-linux scottish (n=Vadim@90.151.155.255) |
| 22:16.22 | joshts0 | ginge: sent... |
| 22:16.31 | joshts0 | wsz tgv ujn shift enter |
| 22:17.53 | ginge | thanks |
| 22:18.17 | cr2 | ginge: finished editing cpld bits. |
| 22:20.45 | ginge | cr2: I think bank G is repeated |
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| 22:26.13 | cr2 | ginge: fixed. |
| 22:27.02 | cr2 | ginge: some + read must be buttons. |
| 22:27.41 | cr2 | it seems some banks are used in 12bit mode |
| 22:28.11 | cr2 | don't see any cpld-related SD gpios. |
| 22:28.59 | cr2 | good night |
| 22:29.04 | ginge | cr2: useful to know. goodnight |
| 22:29.12 | ginge | cr2: thanks again |
| 22:36.38 | marajin | ginge: So when do you manage to get moved and sorted out anyway? |
| 22:36.59 | ginge | marajin: I move on monday. sorted out for me means ADSL, which takes ages |
| 22:37.28 | ginge | marajin: I reckon a week |
| 22:38.05 | marajin | ginge: Heh, takes a coupla days yeah, depending on provider etc. |
| 22:38.22 | ginge | I need to get a phone line and stuff |
| 22:38.45 | marajin | heh |
| 22:38.47 | marajin | yeah |
| 22:39.03 | marajin | I did very well last time I moved |
| 22:39.03 | ginge | I would have it ordered already but the damn estate agents don't know anything |
| 22:39.14 | marajin | I had phone, TV and net connected in < 3 days |
| 22:39.19 | ginge | nice |
| 22:39.24 | ginge | no cable :( |
| 22:39.31 | marajin | And the cable engineer guy was funny |
| 22:39.36 | ginge | I need good dsl |
| 22:39.59 | ginge | so... be internet eh? |
| 22:40.08 | marajin | "So, what do you do?" "Software developer" "Ah! So you don't need this crap" followed by him winging the setup CD into the bin |
| 22:40.36 | marajin | ginge: Nah, it's actually O2, The own Be now but trade under their own system too |
| 22:41.03 | ginge | o2 dsl? |
| 22:41.06 | marajin | yeah |
| 22:41.08 | ginge | hmm |
| 22:41.11 | marajin | they're quite good |
| 22:41.16 | ginge | define quit |
| 22:41.18 | ginge | e |
| 22:41.28 | marajin | I get 20M/2M + Static IP for er.. 15/month |
| 22:41.40 | marajin | They provide a decent thompson router free |
| 22:41.49 | marajin | and their call centers are 24/7 freephone UK |
| 22:42.12 | marajin | You're allowed to phone them at 3am and spend an hour having them tweak the obscure settings on your DSL line |
| 22:43.08 | samuelbarthelemy | 20 m? |
| 22:43.12 | samuelbarthelemy | holy crap |
| 22:43.12 | marajin | If your line isn't getting the throughput you're paying for, they'll email/txt you and try to get it fixed and if they can't fix it they'll drop your price tariff |
| 22:43.23 | samuelbarthelemy | mb or MB? |
| 22:43.46 | marajin | Mbits man, 20Megabyte DSL isn't even possible :P |
| 22:43.56 | samuelbarthelemy | thats what i thought |
| 22:44.03 | samuelbarthelemy | i work at a internet company |
| 22:44.10 | samuelbarthelemy | dude.. fast as hell |
| 22:44.29 | marajin | ...20+ Mbps connections are commonplace nowadays tho' |
| 22:44.34 | samuelbarthelemy | i get downloads at 2MB per sec |
| 22:44.38 | marajin | technically can get 50 Mbps but they liiiie |
| 22:44.50 | marajin | 2MB/s ~ = 20Mbps though |
| 22:45.03 | marajin | it's about 2.4MB/s @ 20 Mbps |
| 22:45.03 | samuelbarthelemy | yeah...but i live in a small little town |
| 22:45.06 | ginge | marajin: looks good |
| 22:45.22 | marajin | ginge: They impress me anyway, Plus they give 100 day money back guarantee |
| 22:45.38 | marajin | ginge: And their 2nd line actually have a brain. They're based in leeds heh |
| 22:46.10 | ginge | moving to clifton, so I erckon the best internet connection I can get will consist of a bloke carrying packets of data of daisywheel printed data in a wheelbarrow to and from the exchange. |
| 22:46.30 | marajin | winces. |
| 22:47.04 | marajin | ginge: Hey didn't you have the 50Mbps tariff on virgin? |
| 22:47.14 | ginge | yeah, they also lie |
| 22:47.31 | marajin | there's no also mate, they're the only company that offer 50Mbps |
| 22:47.44 | marajin | ADSL2 pretty much maxes at 20-24Mbps. |
| 22:48.12 | marajin | 20 is about as high as you go while retaining nice upstream |
| 22:48.15 | ginge | marajin: right, but try and get data down it faster than paint dries |
| 22:48.22 | ginge | marajin: I migh go bonded |
| 22:48.54 | marajin | ginge: well I do actually get 2Mbps up... I find that decent =) |
| 22:49.25 | ginge | I found a package that will do me 4x bonded adsl 20Mbps x 4 down and 1Mbps x4 up |
| 22:49.46 | marajin | sounds expensive ;) |
| 22:49.48 | ginge | £95 a month |
| 22:49.53 | marajin | heh :P |
| 22:50.08 | samuelbarthelemy | wait so what are your guys actual occupations? |
| 22:50.10 | marajin | yeah man, you're paying well over 4x what I pay there :P |
| 22:50.14 | ginge | I might see if work will pay for it ;) |
| 22:50.30 | marajin | samuelbarthelemy: I'ma out of work (long term illness) techie/software de |
| 22:50.33 | ginge | samuelbarthelemy: embedded systems developer |
| 22:51.07 | marajin | what'm I talking about.. more than 6x what I pay :P |
| 22:51.19 | samuelbarthelemy | oh |
| 22:51.23 | ginge | marajin: but its booonnnded :) |
| 22:51.27 | ginge | samuelbarthelemy: yourself? |
| 22:51.32 | marajin | ginge: It's buuuuggered :P |
| 22:51.38 | ginge | marajin: probably |
| 22:51.49 | marajin | heh |
| 22:51.54 | samuelbarthelemy | umm... tech support for the internet company... but im 19.. still going to college |
| 22:52.08 | marajin | samuelbarthelemy: what's 19 gotta do with anything? :p |
| 22:52.10 | ginge | how much does it cost to launch a satellite these days, and do you think I could start a project to get people to donate money to get the russians to launch one for us ;) |
| 22:52.25 | samuelbarthelemy | hahaha... cause i want to be a network admin |
| 22:52.39 | marajin | samuelbarthelemy: So? I was a Sys Admin for a while at your age. |
| 22:52.51 | samuelbarthelemy | but this town hates people that are 19 |
| 22:52.52 | samuelbarthelemy | hahaha |
| 22:53.03 | ginge | samuelbarthelemy: the world does. |
| 22:53.16 | samuelbarthelemy | i applied at the city for a net admin and they didnt even give me an interview |
| 22:53.18 | marajin | It does, but I headbutted my way into IT at 16 |
| 22:53.46 | ginge | marajin: best way. As long as the foot is in the door |
| 22:54.11 | marajin | ginge: I lived across the road from the directors of a local company. |
| 22:54.45 | marajin | ginge: It was a lot of money when you're only 16 heh |
| 22:55.20 | samuelbarthelemy | i wish i could get something like that here |
| 22:55.25 | marajin | Naturally I immediately went and dumped a grand into a tasty desktop |
| 22:55.45 | marajin | samuelbarthelemy: contacts contacts contacts, that's what counts if you don't have a string of pretty papers saying you wasted years studying |
| 22:55.58 | ginge | depending on your current age, that might have got you a really shit system ;) |
| 22:56.07 | marajin | ginge: Hah |
| 22:56.15 | marajin | ginge: Yeah by modern standards |
| 22:56.38 | ginge | marajin: the string of papers does you +/- no harm or good afaict |
| 22:56.49 | samuelbarthelemy | hahaha |
| 22:56.54 | samuelbarthelemy | idk. |
| 22:57.02 | marajin | ginge: Depends, it can help when you're young from what I tell but I have no papers, left school at 16 |
| 22:57.20 | samuelbarthelemy | hmm.. another bill gates? |
| 22:57.23 | samuelbarthelemy | jk |
| 22:57.25 | marajin | ginge: I have er.. 11 GCSEs and 3 BTEC Advanced and thassit |
| 22:57.29 | ginge | marajin: I did uni and then ended up in retail for a few years |
| 22:58.11 | samuelbarthelemy | so u guys are from europe? |
| 22:58.17 | marajin | samuelbarthelemy: England |
| 22:58.20 | ginge | same |
| 22:59.23 | marajin | ginge: Ooh, retail, nasty P |
| 22:59.23 | samuelbarthelemy | oh...cool.. I always wanted to travel over there.. Ive been pretty much everywhere else.. just not europe |
| 22:59.24 | ginge | yeah. I nearly died of boredom |
| 22:59.24 | marajin | heh |
| 22:59.24 | marajin | samuelbarthelemy: Crazy place europe |
| 22:59.59 | samuelbarthelemy | i skateboard.. one of the only things i am actually pretty good at |
| 23:00.08 | samuelbarthelemy | they got a lot of nice places |
| 23:00.15 | marajin | Language and culture density must seem nutsto practically any other continental citizen |
| 23:01.31 | marajin | samuelbarthelemy: Maybe but the people are mental ;) Just look at ginge and me |
| 23:01.44 | samuelbarthelemy | hahaha true. |
| 23:01.45 | samuelbarthelemy | jk |
| 23:01.59 | samuelbarthelemy | u guys are some of the smartest people ive ever talked to. |
| 23:02.53 | marajin | Yeah, we ritualistically sacrifice anyone smarter than us |
| 23:03.01 | samuelbarthelemy | lmao |
| 23:03.11 | samuelbarthelemy | looks around |
| 23:03.12 | marajin | and then Ginge eats their brains. |
| 23:03.25 | samuelbarthelemy | puts his hat on |
| 23:03.31 | ginge | lol |
| 23:03.36 | marajin | He's getting lazy lately though, just puts it in a blender and has brain smoothie instead |
| 23:03.49 | wasup | i forgot it changed my name |
| 23:03.53 | marajin | heh |
| 23:04.07 | ginge | master of disguise! |
| 23:04.25 | marajin | IRC nick ninja! |
| 23:04.41 | wasup | lol |
| 23:04.48 | wasup | hahaha |
| 23:05.01 | wasup | u guys were probably thinking who is this guy |
| 23:05.07 | wasup | randomly talking to us |
| 23:05.13 | ginger|ninja | happens all the tim |
| 23:05.16 | marajin | rofl |
| 23:05.18 | wasup | lol |
| 23:05.39 | marajin | Ginger ninja.. I can't see it happening :P wouldn't blend into the shadows |
| 23:06.00 | marajin | bright red hair and generally pale white skin? Doesn't work does it ? :P |
| 23:06.08 | wasup | lol |
| 23:06.10 | ginge | lol |
| 23:06.48 | marajin | Nevermind ginge, perhaps when you go grey ;) |
| 23:07.00 | ginge | or bald |
| 23:07.09 | marajin | whichever comes first yeah:P |
| 23:07.34 | ginge | I am guessing bald. I a, starting to look like a vampire with my hairline |
| 23:07.38 | marajin | then again, chromedome might not work any better than ginger hair really :P |
| 23:07.41 | marajin | heh =) |
| 23:07.58 | marajin | If I follow my dad I'll go at the crown more then the hairline |
| 23:09.12 | marajin | then again I'll also go grey quickly if I follow him, it's quite rare for a redhead to go grey young/quickly |
| 23:22.26 | *** join/#htc-linux AstainHellbring (n=Administ@unaffiliated/astainhellbring) |
| 23:23.07 | marajin | looks suspicious. |
| 23:23.10 | marajin | It's quiet, too quiet |
| 23:23.24 | AstainHellbring | hides |
| 23:23.41 | wasup | it is quite |
| 23:28.24 | marajin | The missis must have got Ginge again |
| 23:28.26 | marajin | nods. |
| 23:28.40 | ginge | is lurking |
| 23:28.48 | marajin | heh :P |
| 23:28.58 | ginge | trying to figure out how this titan kb works |
| 23:29.06 | ginge | its a bit odd |
| 23:29.16 | marajin | Beginning to look increasingly voodoo? |
| 23:29.27 | ginge | starting to |
| 23:29.44 | ginge | I was expecting some kind of seqential matrix read/write along x and y... |
| 23:29.55 | marajin | well that'd be _logical_ ma |
| 23:29.58 | marajin | *man |
| 23:30.06 | marajin | You know these things are never logical |
| 23:30.49 | ginge | yeah |
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| 23:34.15 | marajin | Lookout! it's dcordes |
| 23:35.16 | dcordes | hihihi |
| 23:35.38 | dcordes | what's up? |
| 23:37.43 | marajin | ssh, if you don't move he can't see you! |
| 23:39.07 | marajin | dcordes: Ginge is trying to work out how te titan keyboard works and I'm goofing around, as usual |
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| 23:59.48 | marajin | meh, well need more nicotine, brbish |