| 00:00.07 | Marajin | "We don't know why but if you remove this whitespace the build breaks" |
| 00:00.13 | miknix | lol |
| 00:00.16 | ginge | um?? naaaa |
| 00:00.17 | miknix | seriously? |
| 00:00.23 | Marajin | it's in the windows 2000 code yes |
| 00:00.58 | miknix | its better in that way than fixing msvc |
| 00:01.04 | Marajin | also in there was "Technically after we pass through this function the number is random" followed by "// actually it's random already" <-- Part of teh error handling code |
| 00:01.14 | miknix | or whatever toolchain they use to build windoz |
| 00:01.41 | Marajin | yes, I shit you not somewhere in the win2k code there's a bit where the error code it returns is actually a random number |
| 00:01.59 | ginge | errr |
| 00:02.02 | ginge | wtf? |
| 00:02.04 | ginge | no way |
| 00:02.08 | ginge | that woul have been fixed |
| 00:02.15 | Marajin | would it? |
| 00:02.17 | ginge | [citation needed] |
| 00:02.23 | Marajin | It was an obscure part of the tcpip stack |
| 00:02.26 | ginge | ;) |
| 00:02.34 | Marajin | I don't havethe source anymore man |
| 00:02.43 | miknix | : o.. the tcpip is from BSD |
| 00:02.45 | Marajin | I figured it wasn't worth the legality |
| 00:02.58 | Marajin | miknix: What you figure they didn't edit it at all? ;) |
| 00:03.02 | ginge | I think its quite different from BSD after they fucked with it |
| 00:03.32 | Marajin | process management was from VMS or someshit wasn't it? |
| 00:03.42 | ginge | dunno |
| 00:03.53 | Marajin | beos has fun code |
| 00:04.01 | Marajin | "is_cpu_on_fire()" |
| 00:04.21 | Marajin | "// always return false because if it was true we wouldn't get here" |
| 00:04.28 | miknix | I think they have something like this /* BSD code, * working* don't touch beyond here ->>> */ code ... */ <--- end of non touch code */ |
| 00:05.16 | ginge | I remember installing beos4 and thinking it was the best thing ever |
| 00:05.27 | Marajin | it was fairly nifty originally man |
| 00:05.43 | ginge | I still have the retail box somewhere |
| 00:08.26 | Marajin | HMm. I need to choose some waaghy music to bully my brain out of exhaustion |
| 00:08.56 | ginge | screw that. I am going to sleep. night |
| 00:09.01 | Marajin | pah |
| 00:09.05 | Marajin | see shwing your age ;) |
| 00:09.07 | Marajin | night man |
| 00:09.10 | ginge | wimps out |
| 00:10.32 | ginge | maybe a change of plan here... |
| 00:10.32 | ginge | "Nintendo has added a new title to their WiiWare shop, Strong Bad Episode 1: Homestar Ruiner" |
| 00:10.46 | Marajin | heh, yeah you didn't know about that? |
| 00:10.49 | Marajin | pats his wii |
| 00:10.55 | ginge | lives in a box |
| 00:11.00 | Marajin | I love the little bastard I really do |
| 00:11.16 | ginge | I played that guitar game the other day.... awesome |
| 00:11.22 | Marajin | guitarhero? |
| 00:11.24 | ginge | guitar queero |
| 00:11.30 | Marajin | I can do expert on it :p |
| 00:11.35 | Marajin | hangs his head in shame. |
| 00:11.41 | ginge | lol |
| 00:11.42 | ginge | nutter |
| 00:11.45 | Marajin | amazingly nobody knows you can get it for PC |
| 00:11.49 | Marajin | including the shops |
| 00:11.54 | ginge | you can? |
| 00:12.04 | ginge | does it work in... nevermind |
| 00:12.10 | Marajin | Guitar Hero 3 shipped for PC yeah |
| 00:12.15 | Marajin | in linux? |
| 00:12.20 | Marajin | want to be let on a secret? |
| 00:12.22 | ginge | what else |
| 00:12.33 | miknix | stepmania is very close of that |
| 00:12.35 | Marajin | there's a clone called frets on fire |
| 00:12.45 | ginge | O.o |
| 00:12.51 | Marajin | it's not as flashy as guitar hero |
| 00:13.00 | Marajin | but it's the same concept and it's written in python |
| 00:13.13 | Marajin | and you canplay it with a keyboard if you want to look like a complete muppet |
| 00:13.35 | ginge | that looks pretty good |
| 00:13.43 | Marajin | it's fun if you don't have the real GH |
| 00:13.55 | ginge | http://fretsonfire.sourceforge.net/screenshots/fretsonfire4.png |
| 00:13.57 | Marajin | get the RFMod version |
| 00:14.04 | ginge | I mean really how much more do you need |
| 00:14.20 | Marajin | heh =) |
| 00:14.25 | Marajin | it's fun enough yah |
| 00:14.31 | miknix | prefers to destroy his keyboard with stepmania |
| 00:14.40 | Marajin | I haven't played stepmania in ages |
| 00:15.01 | Marajin | ginge: Did you see "Through the Fire and the Flames" on guitar hero? :P |
| 00:15.14 | ginge | I gave it a go |
| 00:15.40 | ginge | but I knew before I put it on that the force are too hardcore |
| 00:15.52 | ginge | stepmania looks rsi-tastic |
| 00:16.01 | herriojr | what do I need to fix after I update my rom in order to make calls? |
| 00:16.23 | ginge | should just work |
| 00:16.25 | Marajin | ginge: the devs truly believed nobody could do TTFAF on expert, but people did it. |
| 00:18.02 | ginge | cant find me wii. in a box still :( |
| 00:18.04 | ginge | night |
| 00:20.15 | Marajin | catcha man |
| 00:20.34 | Marajin | ginge: Oh remind me to get your friend number etc when you find the wi I guess ;) |
| 00:20.43 | ginge | k |
| 00:29.08 | dcordes | good night |
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| 08:51.29 | BabelO | kiozen: around ? |
| 08:51.35 | kiozen | yup |
| 08:54.53 | kiozen | BabelO: ever noticed that stylesheets make your app slow? |
| 08:55.26 | BabelO | kiozen: yes :) |
| 08:55.44 | BabelO | kiozen: depend what kind of style sheet you apply |
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| 08:56.00 | BabelO | kiozen: if you apply on parent or just on single widget |
| 08:56.29 | kiozen | BabelO: * {color: black; background-color: white} |
| 08:57.27 | kiozen | did you figure out a way to change these basic things and still render fast |
| 08:57.31 | BabelO | kiozen: that's why :) |
| 08:58.29 | BabelO | kiozen: like on computer, with qtconfig ? maybe in decorationrc or something like tha |
| 08:59.30 | kiozen | BabelO: theming just seems to work with qpe, but as -qws app I ran out of luck editing these files |
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| 09:09.46 | BabelO | kiozen: someone on qtopia channel to lot of qpushbutton and use stylesheet.. it give flickering when pressing one button |
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| 09:10.57 | kiozen | BabelO: ok, white on black is beatifull :/ ... says nokia |
| 09:11.24 | kiozen | BabelO: I really miss something like qtconfig |
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| 09:32.45 | BoaR | hello here :-) |
| 09:38.05 | BabelO | hello BoaR |
| 09:38.36 | goxboxlive | Hi BabelO |
| 09:38.50 | BabelO | hi goxboxlive |
| 09:38.52 | BoaR | where can i download magician stuff ? |
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| 09:38.58 | BoaR | kernel, fs etc ? |
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| 09:41.42 | BoaR | i found that: |
| 09:41.46 | BoaR | http://linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcmagician/ |
| 09:43.01 | BoaR | !seen ph5 |
| 09:46.12 | BabelO | BoaR: yes that the corect place or http://linuxtogo.org/~ph5/magician/ |
| 09:48.11 | BoaR | BabelO: ok but that's old ... |
| 09:48.52 | BoaR | there is nothing newer ? |
| 09:48.54 | BoaR | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=408069 |
| 09:49.15 | BabelO | BoaR: you can ask exco, maybe he have a newer image |
| 09:50.40 | BoaR | ok |
| 09:50.44 | BoaR | who is he ? :-) |
| 09:50.56 | BoaR | and is still hard reset require, to reboot to wince ? |
| 09:51.02 | BabelO | BoaR: wait for him |
| 09:51.10 | BabelO | yes i think* |
| 09:51.12 | BoaR | :-) |
| 09:51.24 | BoaR | k, so i'am going to find backuper ... |
| 09:51.47 | BoaR | resco backup, i thing, i used last time, a try linux on my magician |
| 09:52.45 | BoaR | (i was a year ago, before i throw tenaille on my screen :-) |
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| 10:28.28 | BoaR | ok, now i am unpacking fs ... :-) |
| 10:33.50 | BoaR | there is one thing missing, on readme ... |
| 10:34.56 | BoaR | if it is step-by-step, thre is missing step changing partition type in fdisk |
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| 12:23.04 | BoaR | ok noone is here ? :-( |
| 12:23.15 | BoaR | noone, who can helps me with openmoko ? |
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| 12:44.26 | ginge | BoaR: damn lurkers ;) I can't help, sorry. Keep your eyes open for Marajin or dcordes, they seems to know a bit about it |
| 12:44.57 | BoaR | ginge: :-) |
| 12:53.01 | BoaR | i wanna build my ow system ;-) |
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| 13:32.42 | ellisway | afternoon all |
| 13:36.10 | BoaR | ellisway: hi |
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| 13:47.10 | BoaR | ph5 |
| 13:47.15 | BoaR | what his nick here ? |
| 13:47.34 | ellisway | ph5 |
| 13:48.40 | BoaR | :-) |
| 13:48.47 | BoaR | and how offen is he here ? |
| 13:49.50 | BoaR | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:51.57 | dcordes | hi |
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| 14:52.30 | dcordes | herriojr: glad to hear your booting goes reliably now. anyl uck with your apps yet? |
| 14:53.30 | BoaR | dcordes: hi here |
| 14:53.36 | BoaR | are u interested in magician ? |
| 14:53.38 | BoaR | and linux |
| 14:54.03 | dcordes | BoaR: yea |
| 14:54.06 | BoaR | cool |
| 14:54.10 | dcordes | BoaR: you wanna build openmoko? |
| 14:54.12 | BoaR | (but i gotta go, now) |
| 14:54.14 | BoaR | yeah |
| 14:54.22 | BoaR | i wanna play with it, and help :-) |
| 14:54.28 | dcordes | angstrom-distribution.org/building-angstrom |
| 14:54.57 | dcordes | this is a really short howto get started with it |
| 14:54.59 | BoaR | i got thi |
| 14:55.00 | BoaR | http://linuxtogo.org/~ph5/tmp/ |
| 14:55.03 | BoaR | in my phone |
| 14:55.21 | BoaR | and at 1st, i am trying to connect it via usb |
| 14:55.27 | BoaR | thx for that howto ... |
| 14:55.33 | dcordes | I can't help with this never use usbnet |
| 14:55.39 | BoaR | ah |
| 14:55.50 | BoaR | so sms doesn't work there :-) |
| 14:55.55 | dcordes | in the howto, use only .dev, not .stable |
| 14:56.14 | BoaR | k |
| 14:56.32 | dcordes | and at the bottom, to build openmoko, do "bitbake openmoko-image" instead of console-blaa and angstrom-blabla |
| 14:56.56 | dcordes | but keep DISTRO = "angstorm-2008.1" |
| 14:57.14 | BoaR | ok, ill look at it, but tomorrow |
| 14:57.19 | dcordes | you can use git instead of monotone if you are more familia with it |
| 14:57.22 | dcordes | ok |
| 14:58.49 | BoaR | do u connect it ? |
| 14:58.53 | BoaR | trought BT ? |
| 15:01.33 | BoaR | dcordes: are u going to be here, tomorrow ? |
| 15:01.52 | dcordes | I have no magician, sorry |
| 15:01.58 | dcordes | BoaR: yep |
| 15:03.03 | BoaR | ok cya |
| 15:06.30 | dcordes | cya |
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| 15:17.30 | ginge | dcordes: hi. |
| 15:22.55 | dcordes | hi there |
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| 15:32.51 | paulproteus | BoaR, Yes |
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| 16:00.28 | ginge | dcordes: yet more android code in git :) |
| 16:03.05 | ginge | the never ending task of merging android code |
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| 16:21.31 | dcordes | ginge: oh san has dma fixes |
| 16:21.45 | dcordes | ginge: and mmc flush something |
| 16:22.14 | dcordes | the mmc is in the old commit |
| 16:22.29 | dcordes | pH5: hello |
| 16:23.28 | pH5 | hi dcordes |
| 16:24.15 | dcordes | can you help us with the kernel git? we need a new branch |
| 16:25.25 | pH5 | dcordes: just create it locally and then push |
| 16:26.20 | pH5 | what exactly do you need? |
| 16:27.10 | dcordes | I made a post on the mobile-linux ml |
| 16:27.39 | dcordes | http://projects.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/mobile-linux-discuss/2008-August/000048.html |
| 16:29.33 | pH5 | wouldn't it be better to rename htc-msm to htc-msm-2.6.24 in this case to avoid confusion? |
| 16:29.49 | dcordes | sure |
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| 16:30.46 | dcordes | so you think it would be useful to make the .25 branch? Kevin2 said he had doubts |
| 16:31.21 | ginge_ | he had doubts about using a newer kernel? |
| 16:31.44 | ginge_ | got to go home now. I will catch you later |
| 16:31.52 | dcordes | no he said something about merging the new code to the old branch |
| 16:31.58 | dcordes | cya ginge |
| 16:32.06 | pH5 | he probably has doubts about pushing a big single patch, because that way you lose all history. |
| 16:33.10 | pH5 | has somebody tried to merge .25 into htc-msm and then apply barry carter's changes on top? |
| 16:33.56 | dcordes | barry=ginge no didn't try it yet |
| 16:34.12 | dcordes | maybe he did but that's a good idea. how would I try that? |
| 16:34.19 | dcordes | (.25=>.24) |
| 16:37.00 | pH5 | dcordes, ginge_: ah :) I usually knit people to their names via /whois |
| 16:37.57 | pH5 | dcordes: let's say you have a git repo with android-msm-2.6.25 and htc-msm branches. I'd first try the merge on a new branch that you can throw away completely if it fails. |
| 16:38.09 | pH5 | git checkout -b htc-msm-2.6.25-try-merge htc-msm |
| 16:38.21 | pH5 | git merge android-msm-2.6.25 |
| 16:38.26 | pH5 | and see what happens |
| 16:39.00 | dcordes | sounds easy |
| 16:39.14 | dcordes | what was the command to reset the complete tree? git-reset --hard? |
| 16:39.36 | pH5 | after that you can still create an android-msm-2.6.25+ginges-patches branch and diff the two to see what changes he had on top |
| 16:39.59 | pH5 | yes. |
| 16:43.40 | dcordes | cloning |
| 16:43.48 | dcordes | g2g bb later this evening |
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| 16:51.48 | pH5 | aas |
| 16:54.44 | Alex[sp3dev] | guys, could you help a bit? i still dont't quite understand gpiolib in newer kernels. say, i have a pca953X gpio expander, i see and control it via sysfs. what's the correct way to control it from machine code? for example, if i register the expander and then do gpio_set_value(133,1), the device hangs. what am i doing wrong? |
| 16:57.06 | pH5 | did you gpio_request it first and set the direction with gpio_direction_output ? |
| 16:57.59 | Alex[sp3dev] | i tried, but i'll better try it once again this time |
| 16:58.10 | Alex[sp3dev] | and i should free it after, yes? |
| 16:58.18 | pH5 | also, for i2c expanders you are not allowed to call gpio_set_value from interrupt context |
| 16:58.39 | Alex[sp3dev] | sorry? |
| 16:58.46 | pH5 | you should request when the device/driver is probed and free when it is removed |
| 17:01.00 | Alex[sp3dev] | i still don't understand. that means, i should request all gpios when my machine inits and free when it exits? |
| 17:01.40 | pH5 | for gpios that are handled by the machine code itself, yes. |
| 17:01.58 | pH5 | but this works only for cpu gpios |
| 17:02.21 | pH5 | because when machine init is run, the i2c gpio expander driver is not loaded yet |
| 17:02.50 | pH5 | so anything that depends on pca953x gpios should live in a platform driver and needs to be loaded after that. |
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| 17:04.07 | Alex[sp3dev] | if i build pca953x into kernel (not module), and do pxa_set_i2c_info and register i2c_board_info with two expanders, am i free to use them after that? |
| 17:04.42 | pH5 | not in the board init code |
| 17:05.44 | Alex[sp3dev] | ah.. so, how would you suggest testing it? specify it usb pullup in pxa2xx udc and see what happens? |
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| 17:08.00 | pH5 | you have usb pullup on pca953x? in that case requesting the gpio in pxa2xx udc should work, because drivers/usb comes after drivers/gpio in the link order |
| 17:08.59 | pH5 | I have written a gpio_vbus otg_transceiver driver to handle VBUS sensing and pullup outside of the pxa2xx udc drivers. |
| 17:09.43 | pH5 | but rmk said he won't take the otg patches for pxa2xx udc until the next merge window opens. |
| 17:17.41 | Alex[sp3dev] | is this ok? |
| 17:17.44 | Alex[sp3dev] | case PXA2XX_UDC_CMD_DISCONNECT: |
| 17:17.44 | Alex[sp3dev] | gpio_request(133, "KeyPad Light"); |
| 17:17.44 | Alex[sp3dev] | gpio_direction_output(133,1); |
| 17:17.44 | Alex[sp3dev] | gpio_set_value(133,1); |
| 17:17.44 | Alex[sp3dev] | |
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| 17:19.48 | Marex | ~seen cr2 |
| 17:19.50 | apt | cr2 <n=konversa@crpl6.physik.uni-wuppertal.de> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 12d 18h 36m 49s ago, saying: 'i'm always wondering why people use 'long'.'. |
| 17:20.08 | Marex | pH5: hi, dont you by any chance know if universal uses 32b access to DoCG3 ? |
| 17:23.05 | pH5 | Alex[sp3dev]: no. request and direction_output should only be called once. But can't you just use the gpio_pullup field instead of udc_command? |
| 17:23.41 | pH5 | Marex: nope, I don't know. but I strongly suspect it has to - isn't it used for IPL after all? |
| 17:24.09 | pH5 | at least the boot stepping stone part has to use 32bit accesses for XIP to work |
| 17:25.35 | Marex | Alex[sp3dev]: also having more GPIOs to pullup usb? :) |
| 17:26.03 | Marex | pH5: hmm ... then it's all overly weird :) |
| 17:26.16 | Alex[sp3dev] | that pca953x is pain in ass.. when using 2.6.21-hh kernel we had to write two custom drivers for that.. the worst thing.. keypad is also connected to pca953x and pca9535 has one interrupt for 16 pins... |
| 17:26.31 | Alex[sp3dev] | Marex, no, only one, but on gpio expander |
| 17:26.35 | Marex | pH5: Im tinkering with palmt5/docg3 |
| 17:26.42 | Marex | Alex[sp3dev]: use gpiolib ... use mainline :) |
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| 17:26.52 | Alex[sp3dev] | Marex: already |
| 17:28.00 | Alex[sp3dev] | btw, does fw loading work with libertas on 8381? |
| 17:30.23 | Marex | nah, you have to enable it in OE |
| 17:30.24 | Marex | *OS |
| 17:30.42 | Marex | argh ... Im influenced |
| 17:31.04 | herriojr | have we set up a repository for the latest code? |
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| 17:34.25 | dcordes | back |
| 17:35.53 | dcordes | pH5: I have the google tree now (with 2.6.25 google branch) |
| 17:35.54 | herriojr | so dcordes: I got apps onto the phone |
| 17:36.13 | herriojr | so if you want, I could make debugging apps, so we can more easily debug the running kernel |
| 17:36.42 | herriojr | like maybe an application that runs a bash shell |
| 17:36.44 | dcordes | herriojr: thanks but we have angstrom alreaedy for debugging purpose |
| 17:36.53 | herriojr | ok |
| 17:36.58 | dcordes | that would be useful if you want to debug in android |
| 17:37.19 | dcordes | maybe if you would like to imporove the rilphone |
| 17:37.45 | dcordes | herriojr: if you are really after improving the current android images, I would start there. do you have the source to the phone application? |
| 17:38.43 | dcordes | you could debug the AT traffic from a console in android |
| 17:39.33 | herriojr | are you talking about the source to the kernel? |
| 17:39.46 | dcordes | no the userspace phone program in android |
| 17:39.54 | herriojr | oh, yeah, I have the source |
| 17:39.59 | dcordes | the kernel is fine for phone and all |
| 17:40.02 | dcordes | the ril.zip ? |
| 17:40.11 | herriojr | oh, not that, no |
| 17:40.17 | herriojr | I'll look it up |
| 17:40.43 | dcordes | I can send it |
| 17:40.58 | herriojr | ok, thanks! -> herriojr at gmail dot com |
| 17:42.47 | dcordes | don't tell dzo I sent it :x |
| 17:43.17 | dcordes | j/k but he didn't put any liscense so maybe don't upload it to your blog or anything |
| 17:44.17 | herriojr | ok, np :) |
| 17:44.20 | herriojr | I don't have a blog :) |
| 17:44.36 | herriojr | I'm not the kind of person to spout my feelings about things |
| 17:45.14 | dcordes | he reversed the whole blob |
| 17:45.32 | herriojr | and this vogue-code works for the kaiser? |
| 17:45.34 | dcordes | just in case it's not visible from the comments |
| 17:45.39 | dcordes | only for calls |
| 17:45.49 | dcordes | it is compiled in the android.bin |
| 17:45.56 | herriojr | ok |
| 17:45.59 | dcordes | so you can just try what it does |
| 17:47.28 | herriojr | is this already compiled into the kernel? I was able to make calls with android previously |
| 17:48.04 | OpnSrc1 | hi decordes |
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| 17:50.40 | herriojr | I didn't mean to say kernel, I meant android.bin |
| 17:50.41 | dcordes | herriojr: what I sent and just talked about is only userspace in android |
| 17:50.55 | dcordes | ok sorry, it's in the android.bin, yes |
| 17:51.14 | herriojr | yeah, I have a tendency to type before I get my full sentence together :) |
| 17:51.25 | herriojr | a bad habit |
| 17:51.26 | dcordes | android.bin in kaiser-bootkit is some older version of the android rootfs made by dzo |
| 17:51.44 | herriojr | ok, I know how to make those if we want to upgrade |
| 17:51.56 | herriojr | I had to do it for the N810 when I was helping out with that |
| 17:52.11 | dcordes | the gzip cpio thing. |
| 17:52.31 | dcordes | gunzip initrd-android.cpio.gz && cpio -i < initrd.android.cpio |
| 17:52.35 | dcordes | find ./ | cpio -H newc -o | gzip > ../my-initr-android-with-custom-stuffs.cpio.gz |
| 17:53.03 | herriojr | oh no, building the userspace from the emulator |
| 17:53.14 | dcordes | ah ok |
| 17:53.29 | herriojr | which emulator were the userspace files taken from? |
| 17:53.54 | dcordes | you must ask dzo about that one |
| 17:54.04 | ali1234 | "the android sdk" |
| 17:54.04 | herriojr | ok |
| 17:54.09 | herriojr | is he ever on here? :) |
| 17:54.19 | dcordes | I don't have much clue about android |
| 17:54.45 | dcordes | he hops on the channel sometimes when he has some ground breaking news |
| 17:55.00 | herriojr | ok |
| 17:55.04 | ali1234 | herriojr: the android sdk includes qemu-arm and and arm-rootfs |
| 17:55.10 | dcordes | you know his website? |
| 17:55.33 | dcordes | (just in case you miss some links at some time, I keep most important info always in the README.txt) |
| 17:55.37 | herriojr | is it the new zeland one? |
| 17:55.43 | dcordes | right |
| 17:55.55 | herriojr | *zealand |
| 17:58.20 | dcordes | pH5: still around? |
| 17:58.41 | pH5 | positive |
| 17:59.28 | dcordes | pH5: I got the clean google android-msm-2.6.25 checkout, how do I get htc-linux in to do the merge? |
| 18:00.00 | dcordes | so I have both branches in one git thingie |
| 18:02.13 | pH5 | git remote add mobile-linux git://linuxtogo.org/home/groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git ; git fetch mobile-linux |
| 18:02.41 | pH5 | optionally use the -t htc-msm parameter for git remote add |
| 18:02.53 | pH5 | and optionally run git branch htc-msm mobile-linux/htc-msm afterwards to create a local remote-tracking branch |
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| 18:05.25 | Ant54 | Hi, I'm not sure who to tell, or what details are needed, but when running the latest bootkit on my kaiser the touchscreen is misaligned, it clicks about 5mm up from where i touch |
| 18:06.46 | Ant54 | prods dcordes |
| 18:07.26 | nh_ | anyone doing any work on the juno? |
| 18:10.16 | Marajin | Ant54: Basically we know, it's always been like that |
| 18:10.25 | Ant54 | ahh, ok |
| 18:10.42 | Ant54 | it's just the README file says touchscreen works (with no note about that) |
| 18:11.00 | herriojr | ah, I must have an older version, mine doesn't support touchscreen :) |
| 18:11.03 | Marajin | Technically it does, the alignment bug is bizarreness but we did fix it |
| 18:11.23 | Marajin | however it's not a stable/released kernel |
| 18:11.27 | Marajin | as far as I know |
| 18:11.38 | Marajin | still the guy who'd know best is the guy that did it, and that's ginge |
| 18:12.07 | Marajin | and herriojr, huh? we've had TS working for quite a long while :P |
| 18:12.16 | Marajin | even in the not quite aligned state |
| 18:13.20 | Ant54 | oops, just dragged some toolbar down from the top and can't drag it back up :) |
| 18:13.32 | Marajin | don't drag, tap the dot thing |
| 18:13.53 | Ant54 | that would entail clicking off the screen |
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| 18:14.05 | Marajin | hmm the alignment should be high not low |
| 18:14.06 | Ant54 | speak of the devil |
| 18:14.11 | ginge | runs |
| 18:14.14 | Marajin | ginge: Are your TS alignment fixes in the latest bootkit kernel? |
| 18:14.30 | Marajin | Ant54 says he has it aligning out by 5mm or so |
| 18:14.42 | ginge | Marajin: no, I was waiting for dcordes to do it "the right way" |
| 18:15.14 | Marajin | ginge: And also.. it appears to be aligning /down/ rather than up from what Ant54 said |
| 18:15.35 | ginge | Ant54: how did you deal with the pressure and the x value being multiplied to derive y? |
| 18:15.37 | Ant54 | to make sure I'm clear, I need to press below what i need to click on |
| 18:15.50 | ginge | Ant54: because the way its done at the moment is relly stupid |
| 18:16.21 | Marajin | ginge: Er, he's just trying to use it and it's misaligning by 5mm ? :P |
| 18:16.22 | ginge | dcordes: sorry about that. traffic was murder. what were you saying about the .25 branch? |
| 18:16.39 | ginge | Marajin: oh, right. If you press harder you can get better alignment :) |
| 18:16.54 | ginge | let me see if I can find the patch |
| 18:17.20 | Marajin | ginge: heh |
| 18:17.36 | Marajin | ginge: So how goes for today anyway? |
| 18:17.51 | ginge | Marajin: I hate working :) |
| 18:18.07 | ginge | yourself? |
| 18:18.14 | Marajin | I got dragged to worsley today |
| 18:18.25 | ginge | o nice |
| 18:18.32 | Marajin | amazingly, doing so to fix the computers for the head office of a company billed as liverpool |
| 18:18.44 | ginge | O.o |
| 18:18.54 | Marajin | I kid you not |
| 18:19.12 | Marajin | The liverpool franchise is headoffice'd in worsley |
| 18:20.05 | ginge | someones house? |
| 18:20.20 | ginge | nano -w tsc2003.c |
| 18:20.23 | Marajin | a small office at the end of someone's garden yeah |
| 18:20.24 | ginge | argh |
| 18:20.35 | ginge | wrong keyboard again |
| 18:20.41 | Marajin | heh :) |
| 18:20.48 | Marajin | ginge: Just be glad it's not a different keymap eh? ;) |
| 18:20.53 | ginge | lol |
| 18:21.26 | ginge | I can't seem to find the patch. do you remember if I put it up at any point? |
| 18:21.35 | Marajin | errrr no ;) |
| 18:21.38 | ginge | shit |
| 18:21.51 | Marajin | you may have put up a build of the zImage though |
| 18:21.51 | ginge | oh well, wasn't hard to fix once I got my head around it |
| 18:22.08 | ginge | just needs some trig |
| 18:22.08 | Ant54 | saw there was a binary |
| 18:22.17 | ginge | hmms |
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| 18:22.39 | Ant54 | I like binaries |
| 18:22.53 | ginge | I don't you cant get that code back out again :) |
| 18:23.13 | Marajin | I had a wonderful dream, there were millions of 0s and 1s... and then just for a second I thought I saw a 2! |
| 18:23.20 | Ant54 | bender? |
| 18:23.30 | Ant54 | (futurama) |
| 18:23.35 | Marajin | heh |
| 18:23.39 | Marajin | he does say something similar yeah |
| 18:23.46 | ginge | there is an old android saying that goes something like this... |
| 18:24.14 | Marajin | 0100111011011010011110111011! |
| 18:24.28 | ginge | naa |
| 18:25.18 | Ant54 | Don't you mean 0100111011011010011110111010! ? |
| 18:25.48 | Marajin | 01001111 01101110 01100011 01100101 00100000 01110101 01110000 01101111 01101110 00100000 01100001 00100000 01110100 01101001 01101101 01100101 00100000 01110100 01101000 01100101 01110010 01100101 00100000 01110111 01100001 01110011 00100000 01100001 00100000 01101100 01101111 01110110 01100101 01101100 01111001 00100000 01101100 01101001 01110100 01110100 01101100 01100101 00100000 01110011 01100001 01110101 01110011 01100001 01100111 0 |
| 18:25.56 | Marajin | grins. |
| 18:26.12 | Ant54 | damn it I've got the "binary solo" from a song stuck in my head |
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| 18:26.27 | Ant54 | 000001 00000011 00001111 and so fourth |
| 18:26.35 | Marajin | I wonder if I still have my "there are 10 types of people" t-shirt.. |
| 18:26.53 | ginge | There's an old android saying which I feel is particularly relevant to this situation. It goes '00101010110100101010011110' which, roughly translated, means 'Don't stand around jabbering when your life is in danger.. |
| 18:26.54 | Ant54 | those that understand binary and..? |
| 18:27.14 | Marajin | yep |
| 18:27.46 | Ant54 | are there any other distros than andriod about ? |
| 18:27.52 | Marajin | we can run angstrom |
| 18:27.57 | Marajin | in console at least |
| 18:28.09 | Marajin | We want to make an ncurses based phone! |
| 18:28.32 | Ant54 | as long as it has bitchx I'll be sorted :P |
| 18:28.38 | Marajin | heh |
| 18:28.44 | Marajin | well in theory it will work yes |
| 18:28.49 | Marajin | I've run irssi on it |
| 18:29.25 | ginge | iirc X is calibrated ok, yes? |
| 18:29.43 | Marajin | ginge: er it loads and we know it technically hasn't crashed |
| 18:29.52 | ginge | x axis |
| 18:30.00 | Marajin | ooh TS |
| 18:30.01 | Marajin | um |
| 18:30.03 | Marajin | think so |
| 18:30.04 | nh_ | marajin: think openmoko will come? |
| 18:30.21 | Marajin | nh_: If we ever work out why X is unhappy. |
| 18:30.40 | Marajin | nh_: I've built openmoko images for it but it'll get to X and just stop generally |
| 18:30.53 | ginge | Marajin: not the sd issue then? |
| 18:31.09 | Marajin | ginge: Hmm, it's theoretically possible |
| 18:31.16 | nh_ | marajin: I guess it doesn't surprise me really. :) |
| 18:31.18 | Marajin | but I think not |
| 18:31.34 | ginge | how small can you build an X image :) |
| 18:31.37 | ginge | brb |
| 18:31.38 | Marajin | hmm |
| 18:31.45 | nh_ | Marajin: btw, is there any kind of build documentation laying about? |
| 18:32.12 | nh_ | Marajin: I just got a shadow (ie juno) that I'm going to start playing with. |
| 18:32.35 | Marajin | ginge: 14-20 MB I guess |
| 18:32.51 | Marajin | nh_: Just look up openembedded stuff |
| 18:33.32 | ginge | Marajin: boot in in ramdisk is all im thinking |
| 18:33.47 | Marajin | ginge: x11-gpe-image is well small enough to boot from ramdisk if you want to try |
| 18:34.17 | Marajin | I also have openmoko-minimal which is diddy but I have NFC what it does |
| 18:34.26 | Marajin | (8MB) |
| 18:38.41 | ginge | yes please |
| 18:39.32 | ginge | I want to get X working. screw android |
| 18:40.20 | nh_ | ginge: Any particular reason? |
| 18:40.33 | ginge | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:40.48 | nh_ | no liking android? |
| 18:41.09 | ginge | nh_: for the moment its really buggy, not open source, and I don't like the UI |
| 18:41.17 | ginge | nh_: thats for starters |
| 18:41.35 | nh_ | ginge: sounds about right. |
| 18:41.37 | ginge | nh_: any OS that requires extensive kernel modification to run is also bad in my books |
| 18:41.48 | Marajin | ginge: http://w-ww.org/~kaiser/images/htckaiser/ <-- just grabwhat takes your fancy I guess |
| 18:41.52 | ginge | Marajin: thanks |
| 18:42.09 | nh_ | ginge: I wonder if the openmoko drama is subsiding. |
| 18:42.20 | Marajin | ginge: x11-image, x11-gpe-image, openmoko-minimal-image sound logical. You could try opie from initd I suppose |
| 18:42.24 | ginge | nh_: drama? |
| 18:42.38 | ginge | brb |
| 18:43.14 | nh_ | ginge: lots of drama a little while back on the mailing list regarding how decisions get made and who makes them, who gets commit access to the repos, etc. |
| 18:44.22 | nh_ | Seemed to stem from a decision to remove the ability to popup the on screen keyboard manually before the auto popup stuff was finished. |
| 18:49.05 | ginge | wow. sounds like a really pointless argument |
| 18:51.22 | nh_ | ginge: Sort of. It seems like there's some miscommunication between the openmoko guys and some of the developers that needs to be resolved. |
| 18:51.38 | Marajin | sounds like typical drama to me |
| 19:04.47 | dcordes | pH5: merge of android-msm-2.6.25 into thc-msm went fine |
| 19:04.51 | dcordes | s/thc/htc/ |
| 19:05.19 | pH5 | dcordes: in this case I'd prefer if you could make sure it builds / fix it up and then just push the merge to htc-msm on mobile-linux |
| 19:05.25 | dcordes | ginge: sorry, what's your latest patch again? |
| 19:06.28 | dcordes | pH5: so how to get the ginge changes in then? maybe compare his worktree with the hybrid branch? |
| 19:07.25 | pH5 | yes, I don't know any better method if all you have is a big monolithic patch. |
| 19:07.28 | dcordes | brb |
| 19:07.42 | dcordes | yes no history there |
| 19:07.45 | pH5 | you can compare the differences between branches nicely with git |
| 19:08.04 | pH5 | git diff htc-msm-merged..ginge-branch |
| 19:10.20 | dcordes | ok doing when I'm back home. thanks a lot pH5 |
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| 19:11.47 | ginge | http://www.headfuzz.co.uk/files/android/git-diff-2.6.25-090808.diff |
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| 19:17.26 | BabelO | outch TI ACX100 TI Test on artemis at 13f13ef0 |
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| 19:20.44 | ali1234 | BabelO: yeah i've seen that. does it mean the wifi is connected to the arm7 coprocessor? |
| 19:21.14 | BabelO | ali1234: don't know |
| 19:24.15 | meredydd | waves to ginge |
| 19:25.26 | BabelO | ali1234: can you show me a pd 0x13f10000 0xff on your wizard ? |
| 19:28.49 | Maxro | Hi guys , i'm planing to join developing and want to help porting Google Android on an HTC Kaiser, but i don't know if my skills are good enough... could somebody tell me , what skills were requested |
| 19:28.49 | ali1234 | is that a haret command? |
| 19:28.55 | ginge | pdump |
| 19:29.13 | ginge | meredydd: hi |
| 19:29.16 | ali1234 | pdump? |
| 19:29.28 | ali1234 | itsutils? |
| 19:29.29 | ginge | dump the ram at the physical address x |
| 19:29.34 | ginge | haret command |
| 19:30.22 | meredydd | Moved in now, I see? Or are you hacking from a perch atop an unemptied crate? |
| 19:30.32 | ginge | meredydd: both :) |
| 19:30.45 | meredydd | I see. |
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| 19:31.04 | ginge | Maxro: if you can write drivers, configure images, improve on existing drivers you are good for kernel work |
| 19:31.05 | nh_ | Maxro: I'm starting out by just learning about haret and what I need to do to boot a linux kernel. |
| 19:31.30 | meredydd | What's Kaiser data like these days? (Android notwithstanding) |
| 19:31.36 | nh_ | Maxro: from there it'll probably be driver work like ginge said. |
| 19:31.53 | BabelO | ali1234: yes it is an haret command |
| 19:31.55 | meredydd | (<-- broken record) |
| 19:31.58 | nh_ | I'm not looking forward to dealing with the shadow keyboard. |
| 19:32.34 | ginge | nh_: what is a shadow keyboard? |
| 19:32.54 | nh_ | ginge: the keyboard on the shadow phone, it's like the blackberry pearl. 5 columns of buttons with two letters per button. |
| 19:33.21 | ginge | nh_: is there a modifier key for the second key on the button? |
| 19:33.36 | nh_ | ginge: not normally. It's all predictive. |
| 19:33.43 | ginge | oh fun |
| 19:33.55 | ginge | I think you will need a modifier :) |
| 19:34.00 | nh_ | ginge: yeah, me too. |
| 19:34.19 | nh_ | ginge: if I get to the point where I need to worry about that I will be pretty happy. ;) |
| 19:34.26 | ginge | nh_: that will make your head hurt :) |
| 19:34.44 | nh_ | ginge: I don't even have my phone yet. |
| 19:34.58 | ginge | ahh forward planning. I like :) |
| 19:35.02 | tmzt_mp910c_ | would there be a way to do long press/short press? blackberry uses it for caps |
| 19:35.11 | nh_ | ginge: Once I get it I'll just start playing around with haret and see if I can get a kernel to boot. |
| 19:35.16 | ginge | tmzt: great idea |
| 19:35.27 | ginge | nh_: what chipset is it? |
| 19:35.31 | dcordes | back |
| 19:35.40 | nh_ | ginge: cpu is omap850 |
| 19:35.49 | dcordes | Maxro: hi, c programming, kernel development mostly? |
| 19:36.02 | ali1234 | BabelO: best i can do at the moment (no networking in windows mobile) http://rafb.net/p/tnXa5x45.html |
| 19:36.16 | nh_ | tmzt: sounds plausible. I wonder if there's any pre-existing code to do something like that. |
| 19:36.30 | ginge | nh_: shouldn't be hard to reimplement |
| 19:36.32 | Maxro | Thanks guys , but i never wrote any drivers before. I think it would be better to learn or/and to read about it. |
| 19:36.56 | ginge | Maxro: naaa just jump in and start doing something. no better kernel docs than the source |
| 19:36.57 | nh_ | ginge: can you get the length of a keypress currently? |
| 19:36.58 | BabelO | ali1234: ok, not that i want, i ll ask miknix later |
| 19:37.10 | ginge | nh_: no, you can time the gpio pin tho |
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| 19:38.05 | tmzt_mp900c_ | have you looked at TitchyMobile for uni?, or maybe a console frontend for fso frameworkd? |
| 19:38.13 | tmzt_mp900c_ | (hope it posted this time) |
| 19:38.25 | ginge | tmzt_mp900c_: it did :) |
| 19:38.31 | Maxro | decordes: C or C++ Coding is possible |
| 19:38.40 | nh_ | ginge: I might have to bug you about this if I get the kernel booting. ;) |
| 19:38.48 | ali1234 | sorry wrong address: http://rafb.net/p/M4G3YZ31.html |
| 19:38.49 | ginge | nh_: heh. no problem |
| 19:39.42 | Maxro | dcordes: but kernel developing is new for me |
| 19:39.50 | nh_ | woo, I figured something like gegcc existed. |
| 19:39.55 | tmzt_mp900c_ | kernel/drivers are c |
| 19:40.03 | nh_ | good deal. |
| 19:40.11 | BabelO | ali1234: ok, thanks, it seem i ve an offset on artemis :( |
| 19:45.38 | Maxro | where could i find the android Kernel source ? |
| 19:46.01 | ginge | Maxro: for which device? |
| 19:46.14 | Maxro | HTC Kaiser |
| 19:46.42 | ginge | http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/kaiser-bootkit/ for the bootkit it has instructions too |
| 19:47.10 | Maxro | thx |
| 19:48.23 | ginge | ok, gonna see what the new google git tree has |
| 19:48.31 | dcordes | pH5: I'm a bit confused now. when I switch to android-msm-2.6.25 using "git-checkout android-msm-2.6.25" I can see all the kaiser and polaris specific files in the kernel directory, although they are not in the android-msm-2.6.25 |
| 19:48.58 | dcordes | ginge: I hope it doesn't break your tree |
| 19:49.11 | ginge | I have a backup :) |
| 19:49.54 | dcordes | let me restate: I hope your code will still work with it |
| 19:50.31 | dcordes | so we can use your current patch for the supermerge |
| 19:51.20 | ginge | dcordes: we shall see |
| 19:51.46 | dcordes | ginge: can you help me with my question? |
| 19:52.05 | ginge | did you checkout into a clean branch? |
| 19:52.15 | dcordes | I thought the files that are in my kernel directory do represent the current branch I'm in |
| 19:52.40 | dcordes | I have |
| 19:52.42 | dcordes | ~/kaiser/kernel$ git-branch android-msm-2.6.25 |
| 19:52.43 | dcordes | * android-msm-2.6.25-ginge htc-msm htc-msm-2.6.25-try-merge msm-2.6.24 |
| 19:53.18 | ginge | I think you need to checkout to a new branch using -b |
| 19:53.39 | dcordes | android-msm-2.6.25-ginge == android-msm-2.6.25 |
| 19:53.49 | ginge | git-checkout -b android-msm-2.6.25-clean origin/android-msm-2.6.25 |
| 19:53.57 | dcordes | I made android-msm-2.6.25-ginge using git-checkout -b android-msm-2.6.25-ginge android-msm-2.6.25 |
| 19:54.06 | ginge | yeah but to checkout to a new fresh branch you need to switch branch too |
| 19:54.38 | dcordes | git-checkout switches to the new branch automatically |
| 19:55.13 | ginge | right, but it won't remove any files that you didn't commit because they are not tracked |
| 19:56.34 | ginge | git status should tell you what files are tracked |
| 19:56.50 | dcordes | the files are used by htc-msm-2.6.25-try-merge msm-2.6.24 (which is htc-msm+android-msm-2.6.25) |
| 19:58.00 | ginge | um. I don't know then. |
| 20:00.54 | dcordes | ginge: the branches? |
| 20:01.06 | dcordes | I have some branches which have the kaiser stuff, some which don't |
| 20:02.41 | ginge | ok, so whats the problem again :) |
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| 20:22.35 | Marajin | tries to come up with a way to move 10 miles feasibly without a car tomorrow. |
| 20:27.07 | ginge | Marajin: I would say public transport but you would laugh so hard I could hear you from here |
| 20:28.02 | ginge | 10 miles on public transport would mean a 4 mile walk, 3 changes of bus, a taxi, and another 9 mile walk |
| 20:29.48 | ellisway | lol |
| 20:43.24 | dcordes | ~seen herriojr |
| 20:43.28 | apt | herriojr <n=herriojr@65.173.101.2> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 2h 32m 28s ago, saying: 'ah, I must have an older version, mine doesn't support touchscreen :)'. |
| 20:47.06 | dcordes | we have any builds w/o touchscreen? |
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| 20:57.24 | chab7 | hi |
| 20:58.07 | dcordes | hi chab7 |
| 21:16.07 | Marex | pH5: do you by any chance have a device with DoCG3? |
| 21:16.23 | Marex | I revamped the driver which is in hh.org tree |
| 21:19.54 | pH5 | hm, yes. blueangel does have doc g3 |
| 21:20.29 | Marajin | ginge: They actually cancelled my local bus service a coupla years ago |
| 21:20.42 | ginge | Marajin: same here |
| 21:20.54 | ginge | Marajin: then reinstated it when the locals came with pitchforks |
| 21:20.58 | Marajin | I live in an area with quite a few older folk |
| 21:21.05 | Marajin | who use public transport |
| 21:21.15 | Marajin | on the grounds that nobody used public transport |
| 21:21.22 | Marajin | and when everyone shouted at them |
| 21:21.41 | Marajin | they said "use a taxi, we'll subsidise the taxi service but it will only go to certain places" |
| 21:22.08 | Marex | pH5: do you feel like testing ? |
| 21:24.47 | Marajin | ginge: Does anyone talk quite as much bollocks as the public transport companies? |
| 21:25.15 | ginge | http://www.headfuzz.co.uk/files/android/git-diff-110808-b.diff |
| 21:25.26 | ginge | Marajin: the government of all countries |
| 21:25.44 | Marajin | ginge: Good point, well made |
| 21:26.23 | ginge | um, that diff is against the absolute latest google android git if anyone is interested |
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| 21:29.15 | ginge | Marajin: does you kaiser have htc branding on it? |
| 21:29.20 | Marajin | ginge: er no |
| 21:29.31 | Marajin | ginge: It doesn't even have the HTC styling |
| 21:29.46 | dcordes | it has nothing? |
| 21:30.03 | dcordes | mine has vodafone printed below the screen |
| 21:30.14 | Marajin | it's silver and says 'o2' on the top right and 'xda' under the screen in the center |
| 21:30.24 | ginge | mine is a bog standard kaiser with the backpanel replaced with one that says orange on it |
| 21:30.28 | dcordes | and on the backcover with a nice corporate logo |
| 21:30.34 | Marajin | it has a brushed aluminium front |
| 21:30.41 | ginge | Marajin: same here |
| 21:30.42 | dcordes | mine also |
| 21:31.49 | Marajin | really ? I thought the normal HTC ones were a black plastic? |
| 21:31.51 | ginge | no. iirc only the buttons change |
| 21:32.16 | Marajin | hmm no looking at it all that's significant is mine is silver and has o2 and XDA printed on it |
| 21:32.16 | ginge | I was wrong |
| 21:32.17 | ginge | http://www.itechnews.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/HTC-Kaiser-at&t-Tilt.jpg |
| 21:32.45 | ginge | thats mine http://wiki.xda-developers.com/images/HTC_Kaiser_1.jpg logo and all |
| 21:32.46 | Marajin | the tilt is almost a different device. it has a different keyboard and no frot camera |
| 21:32.47 | dcordes | that's just like the vodafone germany, just with a different print |
| 21:33.31 | Marajin | ginge: I'm sure I saw a photo of yours with a black kaiser |
| 21:33.38 | ginge | nope |
| 21:33.45 | ginge | http://www.headfuzz.co.uk/?q=kaiserledhack |
| 21:34.06 | ginge | just poor disco lighting |
| 21:34.12 | Marajin | ah |
| 21:34.16 | Marajin | it looks black they do make a black one |
| 21:34.22 | Marajin | I just assumed.. well, it was one |
| 21:34.38 | Marajin | anyway. No the last shot (HTC_Kaiser_1.jpg) is identical to mine apart from the logos |
| 21:34.45 | Marajin | why d'ya ask? |
| 21:34.59 | ginge | was talking to dcordes about it |
| 21:35.27 | ginge | just curious how far your oem went |
| 21:35.40 | ginge | I guess orange are lazy |
| 21:35.41 | Marajin | they don't go that far, the hermes was probably more customized than the kaiser |
| 21:36.03 | ginge | that was basicalyl what I was saying. the newer devices get no customisation on orange |
| 21:36.14 | ginge | each device gets less and less customised |
| 21:36.15 | Marajin | the diamond is even worse, they just switch one bit of the logo and have a plainer battery cover |
| 21:36.27 | Marajin | well o2 are doing the same |
| 21:36.45 | Marajin | apparently now apart from putting o2 and/or XDA on it, the don't do much at all anymore |
| 21:36.47 | ginge | I suppose now they are more popular it makes no sense to spend time making it fancy and claiming its your own phone |
| 21:37.00 | Marajin | heh |
| 21:37.17 | Marajin | well in a way it kinda is, they've probably been responsible for massive funding/sales for HTC over the years |
| 21:37.32 | ginge | I think that was us ;) |
| 21:37.35 | Marajin | the vario/xda/mpvs .. |
| 21:37.38 | Marajin | :D |
| 21:37.44 | dcordes | I picked that up because I noticed vodafone germany not releasing the touch and touch diamond as vpa xda or whatever, but as normal htcs |
| 21:37.47 | Marajin | the htc-linux kaiser? |
| 21:38.17 | ginge | you think we could get that branded and flog it for loads? |
| 21:38.20 | Marajin | dcordes: yeah, O2 are releasing the touch diamond as an XDA Orbit Diamond or something |
| 21:38.27 | ginge | I don't think they would like that somehow |
| 21:38.29 | Marajin | ginge: Maybe if we put our ncurses linux on it |
| 21:38.45 | ginge | wasn't it HTC who got the threads unstickied? |
| 21:38.54 | dcordes | o2 xda nerdus |
| 21:38.56 | Marajin | yeah but probably under OEM ressure |
| 21:39.03 | Marajin | *pressure |
| 21:39.23 | ginge | {opinions are my own, and do not represent htc-linux or xda-developers} |
| 21:39.30 | ginge | ther we go. beed sued too many times as it is |
| 21:39.50 | dcordes | xmoo told me they get unstickied if nothing goes on |
| 21:39.58 | Marajin | ginge: what on earth have yo been sued for? |
| 21:40.29 | ginge | Marajin: once by sony that I can't discuss in this channel, and once for IP infringement on a device I useed to sell |
| 21:40.41 | Marajin | yeesh |
| 21:40.47 | Marajin | sony'll sue anyone for anything I swear |
| 21:40.55 | ginge | Marajin: I hate the fuckers |
| 21:41.03 | ginge | {opinions are my own, and do not represent htc-linux or xda-developers} |
| 21:41.14 | dcordes | what device you sold? |
| 21:41.32 | Marajin | Hey everybody, do the sony sieg heil! :P |
| 21:41.33 | ginge | model railway speed control software + hardware |
| 21:42.07 | Marajin | remember that thing with the starwars MMO where people just did an online peaceful protest and sony just randomly banned them for it? |
| 21:42.18 | Marajin | sound business strategy |
| 21:42.25 | ginge | heh |
| 21:42.32 | Marajin | when your customers complain, just refuse to sell your service to them! |
| 21:43.15 | Marajin | or when someone found a duplication bug to get a bunch of credits and they decided that they'd just remove ALL items and money from anyone who'd been in contact with dupers |
| 21:43.35 | Marajin | even though they'd traded "in good faith" etc. |
| 21:43.43 | dcordes | model railway control+ip? remote railwayy terminal? |
| 21:43.54 | ginge | I don't think UK law streches tha far ;) |
| 21:44.11 | Marajin | it's not really the lawful as the "what the fuck are you thinking?!" |
| 21:44.29 | Marajin | I mean that basically meant half the players had their entire inventory deleted |
| 21:44.38 | Marajin | and if they complained then they got their account deleted too |
| 21:44.51 | ginge | dcordes: google for JMRI |
| 21:45.25 | Marajin | Tis my personal opinion that for the last several years sony have gone complete batshit |
| 21:45.47 | ginge | I didn't write it but because I was distributing it with my hardware I got taken to the cleaners (sued) |
| 21:45.50 | Marajin | while the PSP was a sound move the PS3 and their MMOs have been a tirade of mind-boggling decisions |
| 21:46.15 | Marajin | ginge: They didn't give you a C&D first? |
| 21:46.27 | ginge | yeah, it went in the bin along with the rest of them |
| 21:46.41 | ginge | I get about 1 of those a year as it is |
| 21:46.47 | Marajin | heh |
| 21:46.50 | ginge | I find they go away if you ignore them |
| 21:46.56 | Marajin | often do yeah |
| 21:47.03 | Marajin | that said, I've never had a C&D |
| 21:47.11 | Marajin | not personally |
| 21:47.20 | ginge | its always for something I hack and post up, or something I sell online :) |
| 21:47.24 | dcordes | ginge: looks like a famous project. so why did sony try to sue you about it? |
| 21:47.38 | Marajin | I think sony sued about something else dcordes |
| 21:47.53 | ginge | dcordes: they didn't. Sont tried to sue me for something I can't discuss under the terms of the agreement |
| 21:48.17 | dcordes | didn't read again, sorry |
| 21:48.30 | Marajin | man you've gotta love wossnames.... er... |
| 21:48.35 | Marajin | NDAs and such, that's it |
| 21:49.00 | Marajin | I find it crazy that modern life seems to regularily involve NDAs |
| 21:49.17 | ginge | jeez, I thought you would be msging me for more beef ;) |
| 21:49.29 | Marajin | it's sony |
| 21:49.37 | Marajin | what would I do beyond go "...heh, they're fucking nuts" |
| 21:49.50 | Marajin | I can do that regardless of knowing precisely _Why_ ;) |
| 21:49.56 | ginge | true |
| 21:50.13 | Marajin | Sometimes I wish I had a working 'mech... |
| 21:50.34 | ginge | lol |
| 21:50.42 | Marajin | with dual ER PPCs and twin clan flamers and a bullhorn |
| 21:50.53 | Marajin | nods happily. |
| 21:51.00 | ginge | with blackjack and hookers? |
| 21:51.11 | tcccp | o.O |
| 21:51.17 | tcccp | Fuck Blackjack, what 'bout the hookers? |
| 21:51.27 | ginge | screw it all |
| 21:51.32 | Marajin | blackjack and hookers comes after you stomp through manchester in 100 tonnes of walking mechanical death-dealing |
| 21:51.39 | tcccp | ginge: I'm fully aware of STDs, I won't ;) |
| 21:51.44 | ginge | rofl |
| 21:51.56 | tcccp | o.O |
| 21:52.23 | Marajin | G'oooon, admit it. you'd love a Daishi |
| 21:52.30 | Marajin | think of all the chavs you could stamp on |
| 21:52.49 | Marajin | and then you could just knock down sony HQ before bedtime |
| 21:53.09 | ginge | don't tempt me. You know that documentary where the australian bloke is squashing frogs with his camper van... |
| 21:53.16 | tcccp | o.O |
| 21:53.17 | Marajin | heh |
| 21:53.27 | tcccp | aussie-redneck? |
| 21:53.29 | tcccp | runs |
| 21:53.40 | Marajin | tcccp: Ever met an aussie-scot? |
| 21:53.43 | Marajin | oh they're fun blokes |
| 21:53.56 | tcccp | hrhr |
| 21:53.57 | ginge | how does that work? |
| 21:54.20 | Marajin | an aussie-scot? |
| 21:54.30 | ginge | surely they would be ginge and turn to dust when back down under |
| 21:54.38 | Marajin | hah |
| 21:54.44 | Marajin | recessive gene man, recessive gene! |
| 21:54.55 | ginge | :) |
| 21:55.05 | Marajin | however they are undeniably mental |
| 21:56.38 | Marajin | ginge genes are fun anyway |
| 21:57.25 | Marajin | We're vulnerable to UV damage but have a +20% to anesthetic! |
| 21:57.53 | Marajin | *resistence to anesthetic |
| 21:57.55 | tcccp | british soldiers are enough - I don't need aussie-scots ;) |
| 21:58.07 | Marajin | What's wrong with british soldiers? ;) |
| 22:00.03 | ginge | prefers egg and soldiers |
| 22:00.05 | Marajin | though I have noticed that a surprisingly HIGH amount of field command troops in the british army tend to be scots |
| 22:00.09 | tcccp | Marajin: They tend to be drunk all night in foreign countries |
| 22:00.21 | ginge | tcccp: thats just brits |
| 22:00.22 | Marajin | tcccp: I find your use of "in foreign countries" redundant |
| 22:00.54 | tcccp | Marajin: Ok, in germany they behave very strange |
| 22:01.00 | tcccp | ginge: Cabin fever...awful |
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| 22:01.21 | Marajin | . o 0 ( "What's britain like?" "Well, 42% of our days are overcast, infusing us with a kind of wistful melancholy leading to mild binge drinking and casual violence") |
| 22:01.30 | tcccp | lol |
| 22:01.32 | ginge | lol |
| 22:01.51 | tcccp | Marajin: Have you ever heard of "NATO Training Ground BERGEN"? |
| 22:02.00 | Marajin | tcccp: Should I have? |
| 22:02.07 | tcccp | Marajin: A complete nuthouse |
| 22:02.23 | Marajin | you have to be nuts to be in the armed forces nowadays |
| 22:02.28 | tcccp | lulz |
| 22:02.31 | tcccp | Thank you sir |
| 22:02.42 | ginge | start digging |
| 22:02.52 | Marajin | ah but you're german, don't you guys still have enforced service? |
| 22:03.04 | Marajin | *but if you're |
| 22:03.22 | dcordes | semi |
| 22:03.32 | Marajin | vaguely remembers something about a 2 year obligatory service in the armed forces or in the public sector. |
| 22:03.45 | dcordes | you can clean up butts if you don't want to shoot |
| 22:03.49 | Marajin | basically you become a soldier or a nurse |
| 22:03.49 | Marajin | yeah |
| 22:03.51 | dcordes | that's what I'm going to do |
| 22:03.57 | ginge | butts for me |
| 22:04.25 | Marajin | German butt wipers.. there's probably a fetish sector for that |
| 22:04.33 | ginge | there is no way I would join the armed services. I look like a lighthouse with my orange head |
| 22:04.38 | ginge | Marajin: grim |
| 22:04.47 | Marajin | you do realise you get a helmet right? ;) |
| 22:04.58 | ginge | Marajin: but the orange halo glows out the bottom |
| 22:05.12 | Marajin | they also tend to encourage a number1 all over |
| 22:05.18 | dcordes | tcccp: are you a soldier? |
| 22:05.26 | ginge | either that or my "never been int he sun" skin colour |
| 22:05.43 | Marajin | ginge: ginge genes for you, melanin is borked in ginge's |
| 22:06.03 | ginge | Marajin: to the where I am near translucent |
| 22:06.16 | Marajin | man I white out on cameras, I know the drill :P |
| 22:06.24 | ginge | heh |
| 22:06.33 | Marajin | I do. I actually white out sometimes |
| 22:06.36 | tcccp | dcordes: Staffsergeant, reserve |
| 22:06.56 | ginge | Marajin: extreme :) |
| 22:07.23 | Marajin | well not only am I ginge, I'm photosensitive and ergo deliberately avoid sunlight anyway |
| 22:07.39 | ginge | a ginger vampire, eh? |
| 22:07.44 | Marajin | dats me |
| 22:08.07 | Marex | woohoo ... palmt5 has two DoCG3s in cascade |
| 22:08.11 | Marajin | "I vant to steal yoor kaiser" is much less scary though |
| 22:08.11 | Marex | 8-D |
| 22:08.29 | ginge | lol |
| 22:08.55 | ginge | "I vant to port Linux to your tooooasterrrr" |
| 22:09.30 | Marajin | that's easy, get an old P4 and stick the bread on the heatsink, one linux capable toaster |
| 22:09.46 | ginge | I can do that with my laptop |
| 22:09.52 | Marajin | yeah |
| 22:09.53 | Marajin | so can I |
| 22:09.54 | ginge | I burn my fingers onthe trackpad |
| 22:10.03 | Marajin | GF7600 in a portable chassis |
| 22:10.05 | Marajin | bit dodgy |
| 22:10.12 | ginge | yeah |
| 22:10.18 | Marajin | especially if you don't keep the airflow clear |
| 22:10.25 | ginge | i'm AMD so its hotter than the sun |
| 22:10.36 | dcordes | turion? |
| 22:10.39 | ginge | x2 |
| 22:10.39 | Marajin | AMDs are lately very reasonable on heat |
| 22:10.45 | dcordes | I have one of the olds |
| 22:10.50 | Marajin | X2s generally don't generate much |
| 22:10.56 | dcordes | going to sell all the parts of that pile of crap |
| 22:10.59 | Marajin | they're comparable to core 2 duos IIRC |
| 22:11.09 | ginge | Marajin: but tis insanely hot |
| 22:11.12 | dcordes | acer is the worst bullshit laptop company there is |
| 22:11.20 | Marajin | yeah but that's dodgy laptp cooling design rather than the CPU design |
| 22:11.25 | Marajin | heh |
| 22:11.31 | dcordes | worst quality, worst service, still expensive |
| 22:11.32 | ginge | dcordes: depends if you buy a new machine each year |
| 22:11.45 | Marajin | no laptop has longevity nowadays |
| 22:11.51 | dcordes | my acer didn't survive a year |
| 22:11.55 | ginge | Marajin: 14 months for my last two |
| 22:11.58 | Marajin | my "3 year warranty" laptop is coming apart at the seems |
| 22:12.03 | Marajin | literally |
| 22:12.07 | dcordes | cracked screen cover |
| 22:12.10 | ginge | and 2 warranty repairs |
| 22:12.26 | ginge | hinge went on my old one, not before corroding and electrocuting me |
| 22:12.33 | Marajin | well actually I technically had one warranty repair inside of an hour |
| 22:12.33 | dcordes | ginge: also had 2 repairs |
| 22:12.57 | ginge | lol type laptop corrosion into google :) |
| 22:12.59 | Marajin | I've never had more than low level static shocks from a lapto.. |
| 22:13.07 | Marajin | CRT monitor got me once though |
| 22:13.34 | Marajin | and a lighting mains ring that was supposed to be off at the box |
| 22:13.42 | ginge | ouch |
| 22:14.05 | Marajin | I was an olympic long-jumped for once brief period of my life yeah ;) |
| 22:14.18 | Marajin | *long-jumper |
| 22:16.01 | Marajin | ... damn it's 11:15. Now i get to be annoyed about people not calling me back |
| 22:16.18 | ginge | ? |
| 22:16.39 | Marajin | well "I'll call you later" probably didn't mean "at midnight" I'm going to assume |
| 22:17.08 | ginge | I dunno. i have had calls from friends asking or lifts home at stupid times |
| 22:17.13 | Marajin | heh |
| 22:17.25 | ginge | I did offer a lift, but you generally assume an upper limit |
| 22:17.35 | Marajin | well I'd asked about a lift for tomorrow, they said they'd check sumat and phone me later |
| 22:17.42 | Marajin | but at 11:15 I doubt even they'd phone now |
| 22:17.55 | ginge | getting on a littl |
| 22:18.26 | dcordes | go by bike if everything else fails |
| 22:18.40 | Marajin | dcordes: I would but A) it's about 15 km and B) I have no bike |
| 22:19.14 | ginge | you forgot C |
| 22:19.24 | Marajin | C) it's england and you'd get run over |
| 22:19.28 | ginge | its the UK and there is about 3 feet of water outside currently |
| 22:19.53 | Marajin | water worries me not given my tendancy to be relatively waterproof |
| 22:20.10 | dcordes | aren't you more likely to get stabbed than getting ran over? |
| 22:20.18 | ginge | Marajin: its the whole floating into the path of a bus you should worry about |
| 22:20.19 | Marajin | I can remember walking tocollege in very literal 3 feet deep flooded roads |
| 22:20.56 | Marajin | dcordes: People don't attack me onna street |
| 22:21.04 | Marajin | Not really sure why but they don't |
| 22:21.23 | ginge | you have one of those bullet shields then ;) |
| 22:21.45 | Marajin | No, better, I have ginger hair and weigh 118kg! |
| 22:21.50 | Marajin | heh :P |
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| 22:21.57 | ginge | matt berry mp3 |
| 22:22.02 | ginge | um, oops :) |
| 22:22.47 | Marajin | seriously though, nah I really get very little abuse from the more irritating scum that inhabits the streets but I never did work out why |
| 22:23.00 | Marajin | and hmm, I (used to) know someone called matt berry |
| 22:23.22 | ginge | you know who matt berry is... dark place, it crowd etc |
| 22:23.39 | ginge | he did a crazy album |
| 22:23.43 | ginge | check this : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4OlxayaTn0&feature=related |
| 22:24.05 | Marajin | no I mean I went to school with someone called matt berry heh |
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| 22:25.51 | Marajin | oh it's him? |
| 22:25.57 | wasup | hey everyone any new updates? |
| 22:26.05 | Marajin | heh, I can't look at him without thinking "...nearly at the station!" |
| 22:26.32 | ginge | yeah, the voice guy |
| 22:26.37 | ginge | wasup: nope |
| 22:26.39 | dcordes | nice tune |
| 22:26.51 | ginge | the intro is well funny |
| 22:27.19 | ginge | remember... all things digested have a similar hue... |
| 22:28.30 | Marajin | hmm |
| 22:28.46 | Marajin | it relates it to noel fielding and the mighty boosh |
| 22:28.51 | Marajin | I don't get the mighty boosh |
| 22:29.31 | ginge | Marajin: O.o really? |
| 22:29.41 | ginge | o.O |
| 22:29.43 | ginge | O.o |
| 22:30.37 | wasup | aww |
| 22:30.39 | wasup | :( |
| 22:30.51 | Marajin | I don't find it funny |
| 22:30.58 | wasup | ginge: you finish moving yet? |
| 22:31.04 | Marajin | well I've never watched it properly |
| 22:31.18 | ginge | wasup: yeah. Nearly found all my stuff :) |
| 22:31.21 | Marajin | but coupla youtube clips have left me going "...nah that's not funny" |
| 22:31.27 | wasup | thats good. :) |
| 22:31.52 | ginge | Marajin: you have to watch them in context of the whole show |
| 22:32.12 | Marajin | ginge: That sounds like the sort of excuse fans of "the office" use ;) |
| 22:32.33 | ginge | Marajin: be fair, that had some funny parts, and i'm not talking the monkey scene |
| 22:32.41 | ginge | monkey dancing |
| 22:33.15 | ginge | wasup: yes, it is good. Finally back into the code |
| 22:34.01 | Marajin | IT Crowd was definitely class though :P |
| 22:34.03 | Marajin | richmond is amusing |
| 22:34.12 | ginge | yeah |
| 22:34.36 | ginge | is that audio I hear? |
| 22:34.41 | ginge | I think it is! |
| 22:37.14 | ginge | I thought you guys might be more enthusiastic about getting audio :) |
| 22:38.00 | wasup | ginge: cool... good to hear |
| 22:38.38 | Marajin | meh |
| 22:38.39 | Marajin | ;) |
| 22:38.50 | dcordes | :D |
| 22:40.39 | ginge | heh |
| 22:40.52 | ginge | I should get something good working, I know. |
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| 22:44.47 | Marajin | right |
| 22:44.55 | Marajin | when's my kaiser going to cook breakfast for me?! |
| 22:45.07 | ginge | leave it on charge and boot Linux |
| 22:45.23 | ginge | you will at least fry an egg or bacon |
| 22:48.16 | ginge | found some more promsm_proc_comm_logger(unsigned cmd, unsigned *data1, unsigned *data2) // log what tried to call proc_comm with a backtracec_comm |
| 22:48.22 | ginge | ARGhHhHhHGHhGH |
| 22:48.46 | ginge | I found some more proc_comm is what I was going for then |
| 22:49.09 | ginge | instead of pasting the contents of my middle click paste buffer |
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| 22:51.26 | dcordes | ginge: did you identify what sort of proc_comm it is? |
| 22:51.53 | ginge | I found some RPC for clocks and what looks like some power commands |
| 22:52.19 | ginge | not very useful without context |
| 22:52.33 | ginge | its just a big bag of hex |
| 22:53.16 | dcordes | maybe the headset parameter stuff? |
| 22:54.07 | ginge | there is some of that. 0x119 like vogue seems right |
| 23:05.04 | dcordes | 0x119? |
| 23:06.03 | ginge | proc comm address for audio |
| 23:08.42 | dcordes | how did you make it spit sound? |
| 23:11.27 | ginge | cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp |
| 23:11.54 | OpnSrc1 | hi ginge |
| 23:11.58 | OpnSrc1 | how are you doing? |
| 23:12.01 | ginge | then in another shell start sending dsp init sequences to sysfs |
| 23:12.06 | ginge | OpnSrc1: good, yourself? |
| 23:12.13 | OpnSrc1 | I now have Kaiser and Polaris. |
| 23:12.18 | OpnSrc1 | doing well. |
| 23:12.22 | ginge | OpnSrc1: nice |
| 23:12.27 | OpnSrc1 | I booted angstrom. |
| 23:12.47 | OpnSrc1 | how to come out of cu -l /dev/tty ? which is the ~ key on Kaiser? |
| 23:13.38 | OpnSrc1 | ginge: you setteled down at the new place.? you moved recently didn't u? |
| 23:14.47 | dcordes | OpnSrc1: already tried http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/android_polaris_20080718.zip ? |
| 23:15.01 | ginge | heh. dcordes, did you map it in the angstrom? |
| 23:15.16 | dcordes | I didn't map anything in angstrom |
| 23:15.19 | ginge | OpnSrc1: yes, nearly settled, thanks |
| 23:15.27 | ginge | no ~ then :( |
| 23:15.38 | OpnSrc1 | decordes: Oh, yes. I follow your posts regularly. |
| 23:16.02 | OpnSrc1 | decordes: I couldn't get GPS apps working on android. GPRS and GSM calls works on Polaris. |
| 23:16.30 | tmzt_mp900c | dcordes: what was on your camera button again? |
| 23:16.49 | tmzt_mp900c | do you have ` mapped anywhere? |
| 23:16.59 | OpnSrc1 | decordes: on Polaris I use an trackdroid app to download apps directly from the web (trackdroid.com SVN) |
| 23:17.43 | dcordes | OpnSrc1: you won't even get ctrl c to cancel something because you are in some strange emergency console |
| 23:18.00 | dcordes | ~lart dcordes for still not having uploaded a working rootfs |
| 23:18.00 | apt | whacks dcordes with the cluebat for still not having uploaded a working rootfs |
| 23:19.48 | OpnSrc1 | dcordes: I've a 256 microSD. Is there a build that boots can load data.img similar to Vogue (http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/) ? |
| 23:20.04 | OpnSrc1 | I'm going to reset then.. |
| 23:20.06 | Marajin | OpnSrc1: nope,the dma bug and all |
| 23:21.36 | OpnSrc1 | Oh, ok. whats happening these days here. other progress? |
| 23:21.38 | ginge | Marajin: you not fixed that yet? |
| 23:21.55 | Marajin | ginge: Yes but I'm not telling you how! |
| 23:21.58 | ginge | lol |
| 23:23.12 | dcordes | ginge: what's the common way to automate that dsp init sequence sending? |
| 23:23.36 | ginge | dcordes: send it in a big fat block in some code |
| 23:23.59 | dcordes | aren't there any things in angstrom that automate? |
| 23:24.17 | ginge | no, its hardware specific |
| 23:24.22 | dcordes | or is it not common that an audio device needs init sequence? |
| 23:24.27 | dcordes | ok |
| 23:24.35 | dcordes | so it belongs into the kernel? |
| 23:24.43 | ginge | yes, kernel for sure |
| 23:25.02 | ginge | plenty of devices need init strings or a firmware download |
| 23:25.07 | dcordes | did you rip the init sequence from wince? |
| 23:26.00 | ginge | yes, from haret traces |
| 23:26.45 | dcordes | I wonder how switching to headst works |
| 23:26.55 | dcordes | that's not related to the init, is it? |
| 23:27.04 | ginge | it has an init, yes |
| 23:27.27 | ginge | when you plug the headset in, there is a load of unchanging data that gets sent to the dsp |
| 23:27.42 | OpnSrc1 | dcordes, ginge: any image for testing? |
| 23:27.47 | dcordes | so you just sent different init bits to the dsp and tada, you have the sound going to the earphone extusb? |
| 23:27.54 | ginge | nothing compiling at the mo |
| 23:28.02 | ginge | dcordes: basically, yeah |
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| 23:34.47 | ginge | lol I killed smd tryng to get the volume up |
| 23:38.19 | dcordes | volume control is also dsp commands?! |
| 23:39.54 | dcordes | I'm updating the readme.txt a bit with the kernel todo list you pasted |
| 23:48.41 | ginge | dcordes: put battery on that list too |
| 23:49.17 | OpnSrc1 | what are the major tasks going on..? |
| 23:49.25 | dcordes | ginge: battery-what? |
| 23:49.54 | ginge | two things actally... charging and level detection |
| 23:49.56 | dcordes | OpnSrc1: I'm updating the README.txt right now |
| 23:49.58 | dcordes | ok |
| 23:50.16 | OpnSrc1 | SD booting, and data.img is one. power management, GPS on / off ? USB ? boot image ? |
| 23:50.25 | dcordes | ginge: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=KaiserBAT |
| 23:51.00 | dcordes | OpnSrc1: right they are one because they are caused by the DMA problem |
| 23:51.07 | ginge | oh really? |
| 23:51.11 | ginge | that should be easy then |
| 23:51.34 | dcordes | kudos to cr2 for documenting _everyting_ |
| 23:51.56 | dcordes | ginge: btw, you got any clue how gps is initialized/turned off? |
| 23:51.56 | ginge | seriously. this would _NOT_ have been possible without those docs |
| 23:52.12 | Espenfjo | *sigh* Making linux run on the diamond wasnt that easy |
| 23:52.16 | ginge | nope. not looked at gps |
| 23:52.26 | dcordes | ask cr2 how I terrored him with questions how I can fill the mappings |
| 23:52.28 | OpnSrc1 | thanks, dcordes. I would like to contribute. I need little hand holding at the beginning. |
| 23:52.40 | ginge | OpnSrc1: as did we all |
| 23:52.45 | OpnSrc1 | I've compiled git source. my zImage works. |
| 23:52.48 | ginge | OpnSrc1: not too long ago for me either :) |
| 23:53.22 | dcordes | we all do except ginge went linux embedded pro hacking in one day |
| 23:53.35 | OpnSrc1 | if you asked me look into some source files.. I can fix few thigs I guess., |
| 23:53.40 | ginge | lol, not quite :) |
| 23:53.58 | ginge | I hacked on gumstix for a looong time |
| 23:54.25 | dcordes | did you ever use angstrom on them? |
| 23:54.39 | ginge | OpnSrc1: easy fixes would be to implement the kb light sensor and stop the damn keyboard light coming on when A) the slide is closed B) a front panel button is pressed |
| 23:54.47 | ginge | dcordes: no, rolled my own |
| 23:55.26 | dcordes | I was about to get a gumstix kit when beagle came up and now I build the nuke with it instead |
| 23:55.39 | ginge | and sold it to Russia, right? |
| 23:55.50 | dcordes | yes it's almost sold |
| 23:56.04 | ginge | thats what you should have told those persistant mother fuckers at digikey |
| 23:56.12 | OpnSrc1 | ginge: ok will look into that. |
| 23:56.16 | dcordes | bb based nuke blueprints found customers in mid east also |
| 23:56.38 | ginge | dcordes: yeah, its pretty stupid |
| 23:56.39 | dcordes | I was very polite in order to not get any delays |
| 23:56.44 | ginge | dcordes: as you do |
| 23:57.06 | dcordes | ha! it arrived in cologne this evening |
| 23:57.29 | dcordes | 30 minutes ago rather |
| 23:58.39 | Marajin | dcordes: sssssssh, calm down, breath slowly now. |
